re: dairy craving
Adrean Clark
Have you tried alternatives such as soy and rice milk? There are lots
of milk-free treats like Newman-O cookies and snacks. What kinds of
milk foods is he craving?
When I found out I was allergic to dairy it took years to switch over.
Now if I eat dairy I pay for it in chills and GI upsets. After he's
had some "detox" he'll be able to feel the effects of eating dairy.
But try to introduce new dairy-free treats and have the whole family
in on it. Pizza and cheeseburgers are hard but there are options out
there, it just takes time to introduce and get used to it. It's
easier not to crave milk when one isn't feeling deprived by having
more choices.
Adrean
of milk-free treats like Newman-O cookies and snacks. What kinds of
milk foods is he craving?
When I found out I was allergic to dairy it took years to switch over.
Now if I eat dairy I pay for it in chills and GI upsets. After he's
had some "detox" he'll be able to feel the effects of eating dairy.
But try to introduce new dairy-free treats and have the whole family
in on it. Pizza and cheeseburgers are hard but there are options out
there, it just takes time to introduce and get used to it. It's
easier not to crave milk when one isn't feeling deprived by having
more choices.
Adrean
Adrean Clark
Let me restate that last sentence, ha --
Having more choices in food and treats helps bring down the cravings
for dairy.
Milk is a soother and filler of sorts. Oreos can be replaced by
Newman-O's, bowls of fruits for sweets, Tofutti ice cream for regular
ice cream, and so on. For us it's rice milk for cereal and the option
of adding cheese to any meal. Bread can be milk-free as well. I
haven't found any cheese replacements without whey yet tho, you might
want to try looking at vegweb.com. I need to do that too! :)
It helps if the whole family is on board as much as they can with the
diet change, at least until your son is able to understand the
difference. I'm sure others have more suggestions tho.
Adrean
Having more choices in food and treats helps bring down the cravings
for dairy.
Milk is a soother and filler of sorts. Oreos can be replaced by
Newman-O's, bowls of fruits for sweets, Tofutti ice cream for regular
ice cream, and so on. For us it's rice milk for cereal and the option
of adding cheese to any meal. Bread can be milk-free as well. I
haven't found any cheese replacements without whey yet tho, you might
want to try looking at vegweb.com. I need to do that too! :)
It helps if the whole family is on board as much as they can with the
diet change, at least until your son is able to understand the
difference. I'm sure others have more suggestions tho.
Adrean
Sharissa13
We are dairy free... I would check into cheese by
Galaxy International Foods. We do the rice vegan
american cheese slices (just for grilled cheese). Of
course, soy is out for us as my son cannot tolerate
that either.. turns him into a hyper tasmanian devil.
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Have you ever tried goat cheeses and products? Goat products digest
beautifully. I am super lactose intolerant, but goat cheese does not bother me as it
does not contain lactose. Alta Dena makes a wonderful cheddar style goat
cheese, and of course, you can get feta. You might try them out.
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beautifully. I am super lactose intolerant, but goat cheese does not bother me as it
does not contain lactose. Alta Dena makes a wonderful cheddar style goat
cheese, and of course, you can get feta. You might try them out.
Tamlyn Jordan
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Adrean Clark
There's a difference between lactose intolerance and protein allergy.
Goat milk didn't work for me :( (protein allergy)
Adrean
Goat milk didn't work for me :( (protein allergy)
Adrean
On 3/18/08, oasistamlyn@... <oasistamlyn@...> wrote:
> Have you ever tried goat cheeses and products? Goat products digest
> beautifully. I am super lactose intolerant, but goat cheese does not bother
> me as it
> does not contain lactose. Alta Dena makes a wonderful cheddar style goat
> cheese, and of course, you can get feta. You might try them out.
>
>
> Tamlyn Jordan
>
> --AKA "Zack's mom" (he's 9).
>
> "We are not capable of doing great things. We are only capable of doing
> small things with great love." - Mother Teresa
>
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> that
> have given me my health back.
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>
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> see my "Raw Food Detox Journal."
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Lisa
My son is allergic to cow dairy but tolerates goat and sheep's milk
cheeses etc just fine. Our allergist told us that the protein in
goat's milk is the most similar to the protein in human milk. My son
also LOVED milk and drank LOTS of milk until we figured out his
allergy. He threw up at least 3 times a day, didn't sleep and ended
up in the emergency room multiple times with huge asthma attacks. He
was 3 at the time. When we discovered he was authentically allergic
we took steps to find alternatives for him (he is also allergic to
tree nuts, egg yolks and soy) it was hard to find things... soy milk
is out, almond milk is out...but he loves rice milk so that works for
us. We changed to sheep's milk cheeses and goat cheeses (we all love
them!). I use applesauce in place of egg yolks in cooking.... he
eats egg white omelets for breakfast etc. When there are times when
there isn't an alternative we discuss what's in it and what it does to
him (all of his reactions are respiratory and have gotten milder
through the years...he is almost 7 now) I allow him to make the
decision to have a little bit of cake or ice cream at a party and we
immediately take allergy meds to alleviate any adverse reactions. He
knows how it makes his body feel and he will not eat more than a
little because he does know that. Recently he had a cookie at a class
... took one bite and discovered it had walnuts... immediately he
grabbed my hand and told me the cookie had nuts ...he held the cookie
in his mouth until he made it to a sink where he spit it out and
rinsed his mouth and washed his hands... he was not upset or afraid
just knew that nuts are dangerous for him. I think if I walked
around policing his life it would make him angry and anxious. I try
to make it a partnership of keeping him safe and healthy. I find
sometimes when we are at a party etc he will ask if something has
milk, nuts, soy, or eggs .. the hostess is always surprised that he
knows so much about his allergies and takes the responsibility for his
own health. I get really annoyed when someone comes to me to "check"
that he is accurate or tries to talk him into having something that he
has refused on the basis of his allergies... UGH.
Lisa B
cheeses etc just fine. Our allergist told us that the protein in
goat's milk is the most similar to the protein in human milk. My son
also LOVED milk and drank LOTS of milk until we figured out his
allergy. He threw up at least 3 times a day, didn't sleep and ended
up in the emergency room multiple times with huge asthma attacks. He
was 3 at the time. When we discovered he was authentically allergic
we took steps to find alternatives for him (he is also allergic to
tree nuts, egg yolks and soy) it was hard to find things... soy milk
is out, almond milk is out...but he loves rice milk so that works for
us. We changed to sheep's milk cheeses and goat cheeses (we all love
them!). I use applesauce in place of egg yolks in cooking.... he
eats egg white omelets for breakfast etc. When there are times when
there isn't an alternative we discuss what's in it and what it does to
him (all of his reactions are respiratory and have gotten milder
through the years...he is almost 7 now) I allow him to make the
decision to have a little bit of cake or ice cream at a party and we
immediately take allergy meds to alleviate any adverse reactions. He
knows how it makes his body feel and he will not eat more than a
little because he does know that. Recently he had a cookie at a class
... took one bite and discovered it had walnuts... immediately he
grabbed my hand and told me the cookie had nuts ...he held the cookie
in his mouth until he made it to a sink where he spit it out and
rinsed his mouth and washed his hands... he was not upset or afraid
just knew that nuts are dangerous for him. I think if I walked
around policing his life it would make him angry and anxious. I try
to make it a partnership of keeping him safe and healthy. I find
sometimes when we are at a party etc he will ask if something has
milk, nuts, soy, or eggs .. the hostess is always surprised that he
knows so much about his allergies and takes the responsibility for his
own health. I get really annoyed when someone comes to me to "check"
that he is accurate or tries to talk him into having something that he
has refused on the basis of his allergies... UGH.
Lisa B
Pamela Sorooshian
Goat's milk has lactose, too. So does human milk.
I'm lactose intolerant and so is my oldest daughter. The reason goat's
milk works better for some people is that it is more digestible so the
bacteria don't get as much chance to have a feast on the undigested
stuff down there in the small intestines. (It is partying bacteria
that create the gas that causes the bloating and discomfort.)
Lactaid doesn't help me much (I am SEVERELY lactose intolerant - there
are degrees, it isn't all or nothing). But there is another similar
pill, called "Digestive Advantage - Lactose Intolerance Therapy" that
does work very very well. I only have to take one in the morning and I
can get by, even have a small frozen yogurt or cream in my coffee. I
still wouldn't drink a whole glass of milk - that would overload me.
These are available at regular drug stores and grocery stores (Ralphs
carries them).
Milk protein allergy or sensitivity is different than lactose
intolerance. Lactose intolerance means our bodies don't produce
(enough or any) lactase, the enzyme that metaboliizes lactose (the
sugar in dairy products). Bacteria flourish in the small intestine
with all that undigested sugar sitting there.
Lactose is an additive in LOTS of foods. Trying to totally avoid it is
very very difficult - which is why I take the Digestive Advantage pill
every day. Otherwise, I might inadvertently eat something with "milk
solids" or "whey" or "lactoserum" or "modified milk ingredients" and
then be miserable. It is often added to processed meats like lunch
meats, margarines, breads, dried fruit, medications, protein bars, and
almost any kind of processed foods.
So - my youngest daughter knows a lot about nutrition and digestion.
She picked up a lot of it at the time I was just figuring out what was
wrong with me, getting tests, freaking out thinking I had stomach
cancer or something. And, at the same time, she was very involved with
horses - which have lots of their own digestive issues. She even made
a cool model of a horses digestive system to enter in the youth fair
one year.
And now she's 17 and her boyfriend says he is lactose intolerant, but
she's explained to him (and his mom) the difference between lactose
intolerance and milk protein allergy (which is what he has - when he
accidentally eats anything with dairy, his lips start to swell, his
throat swells, he vomits, he has breathing problems).
Oh - and last thing (I promise) - most people become less and less
able to metabolize lactose as they get older. Lots of people can't
really digest it well after about age 5 or so, but the symptoms are
pretty minimal - gas, a little discomfort, loose stool. But if a kid
complains of discomfort in the lower stomach, especially if you can
hear it "bubbling" - you might suspect that they are having trouble
digesting dairy. I cannot TELL you how much more healthy and energetic
I felt when I figured out what the problem was and got off the dairy.
Part of that was just sleeping better at night. So, I don't doubt that
behavior problems can be associated with milk consumption, even when
it is just a mild lactose intolerance.
I didn't think I'd be lactose intolerant because I mistakenly thought
it was most people with Asian background that had this problem. I was
wrong.
-pam
I'm lactose intolerant and so is my oldest daughter. The reason goat's
milk works better for some people is that it is more digestible so the
bacteria don't get as much chance to have a feast on the undigested
stuff down there in the small intestines. (It is partying bacteria
that create the gas that causes the bloating and discomfort.)
Lactaid doesn't help me much (I am SEVERELY lactose intolerant - there
are degrees, it isn't all or nothing). But there is another similar
pill, called "Digestive Advantage - Lactose Intolerance Therapy" that
does work very very well. I only have to take one in the morning and I
can get by, even have a small frozen yogurt or cream in my coffee. I
still wouldn't drink a whole glass of milk - that would overload me.
These are available at regular drug stores and grocery stores (Ralphs
carries them).
Milk protein allergy or sensitivity is different than lactose
intolerance. Lactose intolerance means our bodies don't produce
(enough or any) lactase, the enzyme that metaboliizes lactose (the
sugar in dairy products). Bacteria flourish in the small intestine
with all that undigested sugar sitting there.
Lactose is an additive in LOTS of foods. Trying to totally avoid it is
very very difficult - which is why I take the Digestive Advantage pill
every day. Otherwise, I might inadvertently eat something with "milk
solids" or "whey" or "lactoserum" or "modified milk ingredients" and
then be miserable. It is often added to processed meats like lunch
meats, margarines, breads, dried fruit, medications, protein bars, and
almost any kind of processed foods.
So - my youngest daughter knows a lot about nutrition and digestion.
She picked up a lot of it at the time I was just figuring out what was
wrong with me, getting tests, freaking out thinking I had stomach
cancer or something. And, at the same time, she was very involved with
horses - which have lots of their own digestive issues. She even made
a cool model of a horses digestive system to enter in the youth fair
one year.
And now she's 17 and her boyfriend says he is lactose intolerant, but
she's explained to him (and his mom) the difference between lactose
intolerance and milk protein allergy (which is what he has - when he
accidentally eats anything with dairy, his lips start to swell, his
throat swells, he vomits, he has breathing problems).
Oh - and last thing (I promise) - most people become less and less
able to metabolize lactose as they get older. Lots of people can't
really digest it well after about age 5 or so, but the symptoms are
pretty minimal - gas, a little discomfort, loose stool. But if a kid
complains of discomfort in the lower stomach, especially if you can
hear it "bubbling" - you might suspect that they are having trouble
digesting dairy. I cannot TELL you how much more healthy and energetic
I felt when I figured out what the problem was and got off the dairy.
Part of that was just sleeping better at night. So, I don't doubt that
behavior problems can be associated with milk consumption, even when
it is just a mild lactose intolerance.
I didn't think I'd be lactose intolerant because I mistakenly thought
it was most people with Asian background that had this problem. I was
wrong.
-pam
On Mar 18, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Adrean Clark wrote:
> There's a difference between lactose intolerance and protein allergy.
> Goat milk didn't work for me :( (protein allergy)
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Ren Allen
--- In [email protected], Pamela Sorooshian
<pamsoroosh@...> wrote:
problems with lactose intolerance.
Here's a great article on it:
http://www.breadandmoney.com/docs/paradox.html
Obviously, it depends on the person but I've heard many stories of
people with lactose intolerance being able to drink raw milks. The
enzymes that break down the proteins are also available unlike
pasteurized product.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
<pamsoroosh@...> wrote:
>In raw milk, there is also lactase available, thereby avoiding many
> Goat's milk has lactose, too. So does human milk.
problems with lactose intolerance.
Here's a great article on it:
http://www.breadandmoney.com/docs/paradox.html
Obviously, it depends on the person but I've heard many stories of
people with lactose intolerance being able to drink raw milks. The
enzymes that break down the proteins are also available unlike
pasteurized product.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
hbmccarty
http://www.realmilk.com/
Here is another raw milk link for those interested. We have been
drinking it for years and it makes a big difference. I had trouble with
digestion and respiratory infections while consuming pasteurized milk
products.
Heather
Here is another raw milk link for those interested. We have been
drinking it for years and it makes a big difference. I had trouble with
digestion and respiratory infections while consuming pasteurized milk
products.
Heather