Adrean Clark

Diana's comment abt the cochlear implant is correct, except that the
implant does not "restore" hearing at all. One hears a limited
electronic representation of sound, and one is still essentially deaf
when it is off. In fact the surgery destroys what hearing is left.

It is interesting to see how the CI would fit into whole life
unschooling. I doubt it would fare well.

Adrean

On 3/5/08, diana jenner <hahamommy@...> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Ren Allen <starsuncloud@...> wrote:
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> > And one nephew learned Spanish young -- and lost it all from disuse.~~
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> > Exactly!
> > From what I've read and learned about neural pathways, is that we grow
> > them up to a certain age, yes. But once we've grown that neural
> > pathway it's always there. The brain begins to "turn off" the ones
> > that aren't used regularly but if we were to stimulate our brains in a
> > way that utilize that "off" neural pathway, it will begin to work again.
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> ***Wouldn't it make sense, too, that the paths that already exist could
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> My experience as a human and a mostly adult human at that ::bg:: I find my
> body/mind/spirit first reacts with shock at new stuff, the falls in to the
> experience. I can't imagine my brain saying NO to new information or NEW
> ways to interpret what's already there...
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> That's why a child that is blind from birth is not able to have those
> > bionicle eyes they're experimenting with now....the sight neural
> > pathways never got developed, so the brain wouldn't know what to do
> > with that information.
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> Same hearing cannot be *restored* with a cochlear implant if someone is
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> > What stimulates neural pathways to grow in young children? I believe
> > being held a lot, talked to, played with and raised in a nourishing
> > environment gives a person all the neural pathways they'll need for
> > the rest of their life learning.
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> As a still-evolving species, this is what makes sense. I'll never understand
> artificial constructs in the Big Picture of the Human Experience. Sure, a
> "great" social experiment maybe, certainly *not* the experience required to
> bring us to this place in time... We'll realize it again (collectively), our
> kids need *us* --everything else is the gravy of life.
> --
> ~diana :)
> xoxoxoxo
> hannahbearski.blogspot.com
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diana jenner

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Adrean Clark <adreanaline@...> wrote:
On 3/5/08, diana jenner <hahamommy@... <hahamommy%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> That's why a child that is blind from birth is not able to have those
> > bionicle eyes they're experimenting with now....the sight neural
> > pathways never got developed, so the brain wouldn't know what to do
> > with that information.
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> Same hearing cannot be *restored* with a cochlear implant if someone is
> pre-lingually Deaf.___

> Diana's comment abt the cochlear implant is correct, except that the
> implant does not "restore" hearing at all. One hears a limited
> electronic representation of sound, and one is still essentially deaf
> when it is off. In fact the surgery destroys what hearing is left.
>






As you can imagine, I juggled terms for about 20 minutes before clicking
send...
I even had *insert pc term here* (instead of *restore*) as I couldn't think
of how to explain it to the masses without using tangled vocabulary ;)

> It is interesting to see how the CI would fit into whole life
> unschooling. I doubt it would fare well.
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In my heart, CI cannot be approached without a "Broken, Must Be Fixed"
mentality to begin with... and I still seek to pour compassion towards those
who are so desperate to *fit in* or to have their loved ones *fit in* they
seek this controversial (at least)/dangerous (at most) procedure.
As that thought process negates the relationship building in the NOW with
our kids, I'd agree it's not a fit with unschooling principles.
Whole, complete and perfect -- not only feels better as a perspective on our
kids, it's cheaper and far less dangerous than brain surgery :D
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~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.blogspot.com


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Adrean Clark

It is refreshing to read someone who gets it abt the implant. I wish
more families had your perspective!

I'm actually prelingually Deaf, was reading at age 3. Unfortunately
books continued to be my escape because there, I could get 100% of
what people said. I was mainstreamed until 8th grade. In that
environment I still felt broken and incomplete despite being a "poster
girl" for mainstreaming. I scored well on tests and made the grade
never mind being very lonely and limping along signing English.

Even today I get accosted by people asking abt the implant should I
ever need a trip to the ear doctor or audiologist. It would be nice to
be asked if I want the services of an ASL specialist for my kids.
Because I do and have searched for that and it apparently doesn't
exist in NC :,(

Thanks for juggling and writing about it. :)

Adrean

On 3/6/08, diana jenner <hahamommy@...> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Adrean Clark <adreanaline@...> wrote:
> On 3/5/08, diana jenner <hahamommy@... <hahamommy%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> > That's why a child that is blind from birth is not able to have those
> > > bionicle eyes they're experimenting with now....the sight neural
> > > pathways never got developed, so the brain wouldn't know what to do
> > > with that information.
> > >
> > Same hearing cannot be *restored* with a cochlear implant if someone is
> > pre-lingually Deaf.___
>
> > Diana's comment abt the cochlear implant is correct, except that the
> > implant does not "restore" hearing at all. One hears a limited
> > electronic representation of sound, and one is still essentially deaf
> > when it is off. In fact the surgery destroys what hearing is left.
> >
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> As you can imagine, I juggled terms for about 20 minutes before clicking
> send...
> I even had *insert pc term here* (instead of *restore*) as I couldn't think
> of how to explain it to the masses without using tangled vocabulary ;)
>
> > It is interesting to see how the CI would fit into whole life
> > unschooling. I doubt it would fare well.
> >
>
>
>
>
> In my heart, CI cannot be approached without a "Broken, Must Be Fixed"
> mentality to begin with... and I still seek to pour compassion towards those
> who are so desperate to *fit in* or to have their loved ones *fit in* they
> seek this controversial (at least)/dangerous (at most) procedure.
> As that thought process negates the relationship building in the NOW with
> our kids, I'd agree it's not a fit with unschooling principles.
> Whole, complete and perfect -- not only feels better as a perspective on our
> kids, it's cheaper and far less dangerous than brain surgery :D
> --
> ~diana :)
> xoxoxoxo
> hannahbearski.blogspot.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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