Re: [unschoolingbasics] was feeling discouraged: now (OT) homebirth
Karen Buxcel
Same here, when I look around at my little circle of friends, all of whom
give birth at home, I think there's got to be a larger number. But, we
certainly are nowhere inside any sort of box, so there ya have it!
I live in SD, where it's legal to have a homebirth, but illegal for anyone
to attend. How stupid is that? We've been taking bills to the legislation
FORever, and people just seem to be afraid of the whole concept, they can't
get past "dead babies".
Yes, babies *never* die in the hospital. Ugh.
So, I had one homebirth (in the water) with a secret midwife. (who was then
later arrested because one of her clients turned her in when her birth
didn't go the way she wanted it to go)
Then, the next homebirth (in water) we did unassisted. And now, that's how
I'd plan to give birth again, if we ever decide on a fourth child.
I'm also a doula, and would love to be a midwife, when I'm all grown up! ;)
Sweet memories,
Karen
give birth at home, I think there's got to be a larger number. But, we
certainly are nowhere inside any sort of box, so there ya have it!
I live in SD, where it's legal to have a homebirth, but illegal for anyone
to attend. How stupid is that? We've been taking bills to the legislation
FORever, and people just seem to be afraid of the whole concept, they can't
get past "dead babies".
Yes, babies *never* die in the hospital. Ugh.
So, I had one homebirth (in the water) with a secret midwife. (who was then
later arrested because one of her clients turned her in when her birth
didn't go the way she wanted it to go)
Then, the next homebirth (in water) we did unassisted. And now, that's how
I'd plan to give birth again, if we ever decide on a fourth child.
I'm also a doula, and would love to be a midwife, when I'm all grown up! ;)
Sweet memories,
Karen
On Nov 21, 2007 8:15 AM, carenkh <carenkh@...> wrote:
> I was *so* surprised in the movie, when they stated the number of
> homebirths in the US - less than 1%! Closer to half of a percent. When
> I heard that, I thought... that doesn't seem right. A lot of my
> friends had homebirths... *then* I remembered I was probably a *bit*
> out of the mainstream. lol
>
> --- In [email protected]<unschoolingbasics%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Karen Buxcel"
>
> <thewildtribe@...> wrote:
>
> > Karen
> > (who's also a homebirth mama of 2!)
>
>
>
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peace."
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Lori Miner
This is so messed up.....and this does NOT HELP the underground midwives who want to assist women who desire it. There is always an element of danger in this situation thanks to the scenario above.....ugh. If there was serious malpractice involved that's one thing though....
Lori
Lori
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Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] was feeling discouraged: now (OT) homebirth
So, I had one homebirth (in the water) with a secret midwife. (who was then
later arrested because one of her clients turned her in when her birth
didn't go the way she wanted it to go)
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juillet727
"Lori Miner" <thefragile73931@...> wrote:
element of danger in this situation thanks to the scenario
below.....ugh. If there was serious malpractice involved that's one
thing though....
was then
*************
I just wanted to respond to the sentence about malpractice...birthing
is, by it's very nature, a life or death possibility. In a hospital or
at home.
When a woman gives birth at home and something goes wrong, it's
assumed the midwife is at fault nowadays. "Serious malpractice." If
something goes wrong with a hospital birth, from what I've seen and
heard, there's a whole lot of blame put on the mother: oh, your uterus
was unripe, your hips are too small, you wouldn't contracting fast
enough, or whatever. There doesn't seem to be the automatic "man, that
doctor eff'ed up" response. Where's the automatic malpractice label?
Either way a woman loses when there's a difficult or tragic birth
experience. People don't automatically talk about malpractice in
hospital births as much as they jump to that when talking about
homebirths. As if home births are inherently more dangerous than
hospital births. As if there is a band of renegade midwives out there
looking to be cavalier and reckless with birthing.
And in Karen's post with the lady turning in the midwife! because the
birth didn't go as she wanted it to go *really* bugs me because would
that woman have taken the doctor to court for malpractice if the birth
didn't go the way she wanted in the hospital? Probably not.
It's late. I need to go to sleep. I hope this makes sense..
~~Juillet
>midwives who want to assist women who desire it. There is always an
> This is so messed up.....and this does NOT HELP the underground
element of danger in this situation thanks to the scenario
below.....ugh. If there was serious malpractice involved that's one
thing though....
> LoriSo, I had one homebirth (in the water) with a secret midwife. (who
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karen Buxcel
was then
> later arrested because one of her clients turned her in when her birth*************
> didn't go the way she wanted it to go)
*************
I just wanted to respond to the sentence about malpractice...birthing
is, by it's very nature, a life or death possibility. In a hospital or
at home.
When a woman gives birth at home and something goes wrong, it's
assumed the midwife is at fault nowadays. "Serious malpractice." If
something goes wrong with a hospital birth, from what I've seen and
heard, there's a whole lot of blame put on the mother: oh, your uterus
was unripe, your hips are too small, you wouldn't contracting fast
enough, or whatever. There doesn't seem to be the automatic "man, that
doctor eff'ed up" response. Where's the automatic malpractice label?
Either way a woman loses when there's a difficult or tragic birth
experience. People don't automatically talk about malpractice in
hospital births as much as they jump to that when talking about
homebirths. As if home births are inherently more dangerous than
hospital births. As if there is a band of renegade midwives out there
looking to be cavalier and reckless with birthing.
And in Karen's post with the lady turning in the midwife! because the
birth didn't go as she wanted it to go *really* bugs me because would
that woman have taken the doctor to court for malpractice if the birth
didn't go the way she wanted in the hospital? Probably not.
It's late. I need to go to sleep. I hope this makes sense..
~~Juillet