looking for quotes
Jeanne M. Bain
I got a very challenging email from a woman I met at the bus
yesterday. She responded do my web content of this:
regain inner trust to learn through their own exploration. Too
often, we tell kids when to learn, what to learn, and how to learn
it. Our goal is to offer exercises and tools that they can use to
access their own creative process and inner knowing.
(I offer yoga for all ages)
with this:
"How is it that children can learn to do the above without teaching
and learning from parents, adults, and their peers?"
I cringed. And, it made me really sad that people see children as
something we need to teach into something appropriate. Shouldn't
they be good enough as they are?
As I craft my response email, I'm looking for any great John Taylor
Gatto quotes, or anything that I might send back to her.
The email got worse. She accused me of teaching controversial
spirituality and said, "I assumed you actually wanted to help
children and youth."
Trying to just find good quotes about trusting children and
progressive education. If you are sitting on any, email me! I could
really use the support.
Jeanne
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yesterday. She responded do my web content of this:
regain inner trust to learn through their own exploration. Too
often, we tell kids when to learn, what to learn, and how to learn
it. Our goal is to offer exercises and tools that they can use to
access their own creative process and inner knowing.
(I offer yoga for all ages)
with this:
"How is it that children can learn to do the above without teaching
and learning from parents, adults, and their peers?"
I cringed. And, it made me really sad that people see children as
something we need to teach into something appropriate. Shouldn't
they be good enough as they are?
As I craft my response email, I'm looking for any great John Taylor
Gatto quotes, or anything that I might send back to her.
The email got worse. She accused me of teaching controversial
spirituality and said, "I assumed you actually wanted to help
children and youth."
Trying to just find good quotes about trusting children and
progressive education. If you are sitting on any, email me! I could
really use the support.
Jeanne
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MrsStranahan
Not John Taylor Gatto but still a good one ...
"There is, of course, this matter of being afraid to give freedom to
young children. I believe they have that within themselves which
makes it possible for them to meet the world and life and interpret it
more nearly aright than can we. They carry with them that inheritance of
faith and imagination undimmed; and that tremendous surging desire to
know, to see, to feel and to do, which is rarely betrayed. In our
desire as adults to lay hold of a child's life, to grip it, mold it
to our own values, we do unwittingly a great harm. We confront children
with our own fears, our own lack of faith; to safeguard them we
attempt to thrust between them and life those many false illusions
which we have picked up in our own twisting, turning way. Children
take a far more advantageous highroad. A free child is a happy child;
and there is nothing more lovely �
" � Ruth Sawyer, in her acceptance speech upon winning the Newbery
Award for Roller Skates, 1936
"There is, of course, this matter of being afraid to give freedom to
young children. I believe they have that within themselves which
makes it possible for them to meet the world and life and interpret it
more nearly aright than can we. They carry with them that inheritance of
faith and imagination undimmed; and that tremendous surging desire to
know, to see, to feel and to do, which is rarely betrayed. In our
desire as adults to lay hold of a child's life, to grip it, mold it
to our own values, we do unwittingly a great harm. We confront children
with our own fears, our own lack of faith; to safeguard them we
attempt to thrust between them and life those many false illusions
which we have picked up in our own twisting, turning way. Children
take a far more advantageous highroad. A free child is a happy child;
and there is nothing more lovely �
" � Ruth Sawyer, in her acceptance speech upon winning the Newbery
Award for Roller Skates, 1936
On Nov 16, 2007 12:30 PM, Jeanne M. Bain <bigmonstermama@...> wrote:
> I got a very challenging email from a woman I met at the bus
> yesterday. She responded do my web content of this:
>
> regain inner trust to learn through their own exploration. Too
> often, we tell kids when to learn, what to learn, and how to learn
> it. Our goal is to offer exercises and tools that they can use to
> access their own creative process and inner knowing.
>
> (I offer yoga for all ages)
>
> with this:
>
> "How is it that children can learn to do the above without teaching
> and learning from parents, adults, and their peers?"
>
> I cringed. And, it made me really sad that people see children as
> something we need to teach into something appropriate. Shouldn't
> they be good enough as they are?
> As I craft my response email, I'm looking for any great John Taylor
> Gatto quotes, or anything that I might send back to her.
> The email got worse. She accused me of teaching controversial
> spirituality and said, "I assumed you actually wanted to help
> children and youth."
>
> Trying to just find good quotes about trusting children and
> progressive education. If you are sitting on any, email me! I could
> really use the support.
>
> Jeanne
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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salsannette
I like these two quotes that aren't from the homeschool gurus but
names people in the general population would recognize and possibly
admire:
IT IS, IN FACT, NOTHING short of a miracle that the modern methods
of education have not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of
inquiry; for this delicate little plant, aside from stimulation,
stands mainly in need of freedom; without this it goes to wrack and
ruin without fail. It is a very grave mistake to think that the
enjoyment of seeing and searching can be promoted by means of
coercion and a sense of duty. To the contrary, I believe that it
would be possible to rob even a healthy beast of prey of its
voraciousness, if it were possible, with the aid of a whip, to force
the beast to devour continuously, even when not hungry, especially
if the food, handed out under such coercion, were to be selected
accordingly.
--Albert Einstein
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it
within himself
--Galileo
I am sitting on more quotes if you'd like more.
Annette Salsman
Dayton, Ohio
recently transplanted from Portland, Oregon
--- In [email protected], "Jeanne M. Bain"
<bigmonstermama@...> wrote:
names people in the general population would recognize and possibly
admire:
IT IS, IN FACT, NOTHING short of a miracle that the modern methods
of education have not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of
inquiry; for this delicate little plant, aside from stimulation,
stands mainly in need of freedom; without this it goes to wrack and
ruin without fail. It is a very grave mistake to think that the
enjoyment of seeing and searching can be promoted by means of
coercion and a sense of duty. To the contrary, I believe that it
would be possible to rob even a healthy beast of prey of its
voraciousness, if it were possible, with the aid of a whip, to force
the beast to devour continuously, even when not hungry, especially
if the food, handed out under such coercion, were to be selected
accordingly.
--Albert Einstein
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it
within himself
--Galileo
I am sitting on more quotes if you'd like more.
Annette Salsman
Dayton, Ohio
recently transplanted from Portland, Oregon
--- In [email protected], "Jeanne M. Bain"
<bigmonstermama@...> wrote:
>could
>
> Trying to just find good quotes about trusting children and
> progressive education. If you are sitting on any, email me! I
> really use the support.
>
> Jeanne
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
:: anne | arun ::
Hi Jeanne,
firstly i must say you have a lot of energy to engage with the woman
you described. Im not sure if i would be motivated to do likewise...
but you asked:
Since we can�t know what knowledge will be most needed in the future,
it is senseless to try to teach it in advance. Instead, we should try
to turn out people who love learning so much and learn so well that
they will be able to learn whatever needs to be learned
� John Holt
What we want to see is the child in pursuit of knowledge, not
knowledge in pursuit of the child.
� George Bernard Shaw
Just as eating against one�s will is injurious to health, so study
without a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it
takes in.
� Leonardo Da Vinci
a few more such quotes at http://theparentingpit.com/reviews/
all the best
arun
_____________________________________________
http://www.theparentingpit.com
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firstly i must say you have a lot of energy to engage with the woman
you described. Im not sure if i would be motivated to do likewise...
but you asked:
> --- In [email protected], "Jeanne M. Bain"so thought you'd like:
> <bigmonstermama@...> wrote:
> > Trying to just find good quotes about trusting children and
> progressive education. If you are sitting on any, email me! I could
> > really use the support.
> > Jeanne
Since we can�t know what knowledge will be most needed in the future,
it is senseless to try to teach it in advance. Instead, we should try
to turn out people who love learning so much and learn so well that
they will be able to learn whatever needs to be learned
� John Holt
What we want to see is the child in pursuit of knowledge, not
knowledge in pursuit of the child.
� George Bernard Shaw
Just as eating against one�s will is injurious to health, so study
without a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it
takes in.
� Leonardo Da Vinci
a few more such quotes at http://theparentingpit.com/reviews/
all the best
arun
_____________________________________________
http://www.theparentingpit.com
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[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanne M. Bain <bigmonstermama@...>
I got a very challenging email from a woman I met at the bus
yesterday. She responded do my web content of this:
<snip>
As I craft my response email, I'm looking for any great John Taylor
Gatto quotes, or anything that I might send back to her.
The email got worse. She accused me of teaching controversial
spirituality and said, "I assumed you actually wanted to help
children and youth."
-=-=-=-
Jeanne,
It's hard enough to deal with spouses and extended family members and
close friends/neighbors that don't get it.
But worrying about a total stranger from the bus or internet is just a
waste of time! <g>
Why do you feel she's worth responding to?
You don't really need to answer---I just figure you might have better
things to attend to! <G>
Most folks really don't want to know---they just like to argue.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
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From: Jeanne M. Bain <bigmonstermama@...>
I got a very challenging email from a woman I met at the bus
yesterday. She responded do my web content of this:
<snip>
As I craft my response email, I'm looking for any great John Taylor
Gatto quotes, or anything that I might send back to her.
The email got worse. She accused me of teaching controversial
spirituality and said, "I assumed you actually wanted to help
children and youth."
-=-=-=-
Jeanne,
It's hard enough to deal with spouses and extended family members and
close friends/neighbors that don't get it.
But worrying about a total stranger from the bus or internet is just a
waste of time! <g>
Why do you feel she's worth responding to?
You don't really need to answer---I just figure you might have better
things to attend to! <G>
Most folks really don't want to know---they just like to argue.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
________________________________________________________________________
Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -
http://mail.aol.com