Teen wants to go to Alaska
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My dd/ 15 (just) wants to go to Alaska in november to visit some guy she met at NBTSC. I have only seen pics of him. He's 17. There is another unschooler up there aged 20 she will also be visiting if she goes.
I do not know these young men or their families and my daughter is kind of known for some not so well thougth out plans.
She says they are just friends. They text message and talk on the phone every day. My dd is feeling more adult lately, very independant and feels like I am being too overprotective and/or nosy to want details. These two guys have been unschooled all their lives and seem to be pretty much established as young adults whereas my daughter is younger, still deschooling to a degree and probably more naive.
What can y'all recommend I do as due diligence to make sure that if she goes she is safe? alaska is awfully cold in November.
My friends of conventionally schooled kids think I am insane to even contemplate allowing her to go.
Kathryn
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I do not know these young men or their families and my daughter is kind of known for some not so well thougth out plans.
She says they are just friends. They text message and talk on the phone every day. My dd is feeling more adult lately, very independant and feels like I am being too overprotective and/or nosy to want details. These two guys have been unschooled all their lives and seem to be pretty much established as young adults whereas my daughter is younger, still deschooling to a degree and probably more naive.
What can y'all recommend I do as due diligence to make sure that if she goes she is safe? alaska is awfully cold in November.
My friends of conventionally schooled kids think I am insane to even contemplate allowing her to go.
Kathryn
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Vickisue Gray
I think you're insane to contemplate it, too.
She's only 15. Too young in my book to travel
alone to visit two men. Shoot, NO single woman
should travel alone to visit TWO men she doesn't
really even know!
Just my humble opinion, and I've been a bit tainted since
my sister was murdered when she was 20 years of age.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:34:02 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Teen wants to go to Alaska
My dd/ 15 (just) wants to go to Alaska in november to visit some guy she met at NBTSC. I have only seen pics of him. He's 17. There is another unschooler up there aged 20 she will also be visiting if she goes.
I do not know these young men or their families and my daughter is kind of known for some not so well thougth out plans.
She says they are just friends. They text message and talk on the phone every day. My dd is feeling more adult lately, very independant and feels like I am being too overprotective and/or nosy to want details. These two guys have been unschooled all their lives and seem to be pretty much established as young adults whereas my daughter is younger, still deschooling to a degree and probably more naive.
What can y'all recommend I do as due diligence to make sure that if she goes she is safe? alaska is awfully cold in November.
My friends of conventionally schooled kids think I am insane to even contemplate allowing her to go.
Kathryn
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She's only 15. Too young in my book to travel
alone to visit two men. Shoot, NO single woman
should travel alone to visit TWO men she doesn't
really even know!
Just my humble opinion, and I've been a bit tainted since
my sister was murdered when she was 20 years of age.
----- Original Message ----
From: "airokat@..." <airokat@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:34:02 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Teen wants to go to Alaska
My dd/ 15 (just) wants to go to Alaska in november to visit some guy she met at NBTSC. I have only seen pics of him. He's 17. There is another unschooler up there aged 20 she will also be visiting if she goes.
I do not know these young men or their families and my daughter is kind of known for some not so well thougth out plans.
She says they are just friends. They text message and talk on the phone every day. My dd is feeling more adult lately, very independant and feels like I am being too overprotective and/or nosy to want details. These two guys have been unschooled all their lives and seem to be pretty much established as young adults whereas my daughter is younger, still deschooling to a degree and probably more naive.
What can y'all recommend I do as due diligence to make sure that if she goes she is safe? alaska is awfully cold in November.
My friends of conventionally schooled kids think I am insane to even contemplate allowing her to go.
Kathryn
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Ren Allen
~~What can y'all recommend I do as due diligence to make sure that if
she goes she is safe? alaska is awfully cold in November.~~
How do you guarantee she is safe if she stays home? Life is dangerous,
there are no guarantees of anything. Sounds like it could be a grand
adventure for her.
Make sure she has a reliable form of communication, extra money and
lotsa warm cloths (yes, it's cold everywhere in Alaska in November)
and make sure you talk with the family enough to work out the details.
What part of Alaska will she be visiting? I have family in Wasilla and
Fairbanks if you'd like her to have a local contact in case of an
emergency. My sis in Wasilla is a radical unschooler too.:)
Ren
learniningfreedom.com
she goes she is safe? alaska is awfully cold in November.~~
How do you guarantee she is safe if she stays home? Life is dangerous,
there are no guarantees of anything. Sounds like it could be a grand
adventure for her.
Make sure she has a reliable form of communication, extra money and
lotsa warm cloths (yes, it's cold everywhere in Alaska in November)
and make sure you talk with the family enough to work out the details.
What part of Alaska will she be visiting? I have family in Wasilla and
Fairbanks if you'd like her to have a local contact in case of an
emergency. My sis in Wasilla is a radical unschooler too.:)
Ren
learniningfreedom.com
Jesse Suckow Crowell
Can the guys come to visit you first?
Jess
Jess
On 10/17/07, airokat@... <airokat@...> wrote:
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> My dd/ 15 (just) wants to go to Alaska in november to visit some guy she
> met at NBTSC. I have only seen pics of him. He's 17. There is another
> unschooler up there aged 20 she will also be visiting if she goes.
> I do not know these young men or their families and my daughter is kind of
> known for some not so well thougth out plans.
> She says they are just friends. They text message and talk on the phone
> every day. My dd is feeling more adult lately, very independant and feels
> like I am being too overprotective and/or nosy to want details. These two
> guys have been unschooled all their lives and seem to be pretty much
> established as young adults whereas my daughter is younger, still
> deschooling to a degree and probably more naive.
>
> What can y'all recommend I do as due diligence to make sure that if she
> goes she is safe? alaska is awfully cold in November.
>
> My friends of conventionally schooled kids think I am insane to even
> contemplate allowing her to go.
> Kathryn
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Debra Rossing
If it was my DD, I'd get in touch with their family and, among other
things, make sure it's Ok with them to have a houseguest. If these are
over-18 guys with their own place, then make other arrangements to visit
- maybe stay with their parents if they are local or with another
unschooling family in the area and spend the days with them. Basically,
have a safe base to work from, just in case things aren't as peachy as
they seemed at camp. Not only for the 'dangerous' aspects of things but
even if they're not so much fun to hang around with when they're in
their own familiar territory KWIM? If, after 2 really Cool days
together, she decides that she'd rather not spend quite that much
one-on-one time with them, she'd have more options if she already had
some other connections set up. She wouldn't be dependent on them for
everything from shelter to food to transportation. Even if they're great
guys, that can sometimes be stressful to be in an unknown territory and
totally dependent on someone else you barely know.
Deb
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things, make sure it's Ok with them to have a houseguest. If these are
over-18 guys with their own place, then make other arrangements to visit
- maybe stay with their parents if they are local or with another
unschooling family in the area and spend the days with them. Basically,
have a safe base to work from, just in case things aren't as peachy as
they seemed at camp. Not only for the 'dangerous' aspects of things but
even if they're not so much fun to hang around with when they're in
their own familiar territory KWIM? If, after 2 really Cool days
together, she decides that she'd rather not spend quite that much
one-on-one time with them, she'd have more options if she already had
some other connections set up. She wouldn't be dependent on them for
everything from shelter to food to transportation. Even if they're great
guys, that can sometimes be stressful to be in an unknown territory and
totally dependent on someone else you barely know.
Deb
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I will definately get in touch with their families. And no, they dont live together in their own place, and one of them is 17. He lives with his parents and five y/o unschooled brother. The other guy also lives with his parents. I don't know why the older one was at NBTSC, because he is over 18, but apparently Grace allowed him to come back because he loves the camp so much. My daughter did spend two weeks at camp with these guys so she is pretty comfortable with them, but I know what you mean. It may be intense to be with them all day 24/7. I do agree it would be better for her to have her own base, but I am not sure I could swing that. The plan is to stay with the younger guy mainly and then head up to Wasilla to visit the older guy for a few days. I'm still checking it all out and who knows the whole plan may end up in the wash. I would love for her to see the Northern Lights. Alaska is absolutely stunning. She was there when she was five. I got a job up there in 1997 flying air
tours in Denali park. I drove up from California towing a trailer and took both my girls, who were aged 4 and 7 at the time. We stayed in Healy for the summer. Everyone thought I was crazy to travel alone with my girls all the way up the Alcan highway through Canada but it was a great time and everything went well. They loved it up there.
I just really need to check out these families before I agree to it.
Kathryn
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From: "Debra Rossing" <debra.rossing@...>
If it was my DD, I'd get in touch with their family and, among other
things, make sure it's Ok with them to have a houseguest. If these are
over-18 guys with their own place, then make other arrangements to visit
- maybe stay with their parents if they are local or with another
unschooling family in the area and spend the days with them. Basically,
have a safe base to work from, just in case things aren't as peachy as
they seemed at camp. Not only for the 'dangerous' aspects of things but
even if they're not so much fun to hang around with when they're in
their own familiar territory KWIM? If, after 2 really Cool days
together, she decides that she'd rather not spend quite that much
one-on-one time with them, she'd have more options if she already had
some other connections set up. She wouldn't be dependent on them for
everything from shelter to food to transportation. Even if they're great
guys, that can sometimes be stressful to be in an unknown territory and
totally dependent on someone else you barely know.
Deb
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tours in Denali park. I drove up from California towing a trailer and took both my girls, who were aged 4 and 7 at the time. We stayed in Healy for the summer. Everyone thought I was crazy to travel alone with my girls all the way up the Alcan highway through Canada but it was a great time and everything went well. They loved it up there.
I just really need to check out these families before I agree to it.
Kathryn
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From: "Debra Rossing" <debra.rossing@...>
If it was my DD, I'd get in touch with their family and, among other
things, make sure it's Ok with them to have a houseguest. If these are
over-18 guys with their own place, then make other arrangements to visit
- maybe stay with their parents if they are local or with another
unschooling family in the area and spend the days with them. Basically,
have a safe base to work from, just in case things aren't as peachy as
they seemed at camp. Not only for the 'dangerous' aspects of things but
even if they're not so much fun to hang around with when they're in
their own familiar territory KWIM? If, after 2 really Cool days
together, she decides that she'd rather not spend quite that much
one-on-one time with them, she'd have more options if she already had
some other connections set up. She wouldn't be dependent on them for
everything from shelter to food to transportation. Even if they're great
guys, that can sometimes be stressful to be in an unknown territory and
totally dependent on someone else you barely know.
Deb
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Thats a great idea! Provided they can get airfare....and it would have to be quick because the invite for my daughter is in november already.
Kathryn
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From: "Jesse Suckow Crowell" <stompy@...>
Can the guys come to visit you first?
Jess
Kathryn
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From: "Jesse Suckow Crowell" <stompy@...>
Can the guys come to visit you first?
Jess
On 10/17/07, airokat@... <airokat@...> wrote:
>
> My dd/ 15 (just) wants to go to Alaska in november to visit some guy she
> met at NBTSC. I have only seen pics of him. He's 17. There is another
> unschooler up there aged 20 she will also be visiting if she goes.
> I do not know these young men or their families and my daughter is kind of
> known for some not so well thougth out plans.
> She says they are just friends. They text message and talk on the phone
> every day. My dd is feeling more adult lately, very independant and feels
> like I am being too overprotective and/or nosy to want details. These two
> guys have been unschooled all their lives and seem to be pretty much
> established as young adults whereas my daughter is younger, still
> deschooling to a degree and probably more naive.
>
> What can y'all recommend I do as due diligence to make sure that if she
> goes she is safe? alaska is awfully cold in November.
>
> My friends of conventionally schooled kids think I am insane to even
> contemplate allowing her to go.
> Kathryn
>
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>
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