on the subject of sex....
Meredith
At L&L, Dianna strongly recommended strewing information for teens
rather than having "talks" with them, so I'm looking for one or more
books and/or movies to strew for Ray. He's sooooo resistant to anything
that looks "educational" and as a result has some basic information,
but its kind of patchy. We've been doing pretty well at addressing
questions as they come up (thank god for all those E-D and "male
enhancement" ads on tv!) but he's *very* self concious and modest, and
its important that we respect his boundaries on this.
So, those of you with teen guys - which books (or movies or comics or
websites...) have they found useful and approachable? I'm needing to do
my shopping online, so titles, Please!
---Meredith (Mo 6, Ray 14)
rather than having "talks" with them, so I'm looking for one or more
books and/or movies to strew for Ray. He's sooooo resistant to anything
that looks "educational" and as a result has some basic information,
but its kind of patchy. We've been doing pretty well at addressing
questions as they come up (thank god for all those E-D and "male
enhancement" ads on tv!) but he's *very* self concious and modest, and
its important that we respect his boundaries on this.
So, those of you with teen guys - which books (or movies or comics or
websites...) have they found useful and approachable? I'm needing to do
my shopping online, so titles, Please!
---Meredith (Mo 6, Ray 14)
Karen Swanay
You didn't ask me, and this may be more than your boy can handle, but Monty
Python's Meaning of Life has a lot of discussion about sex including a scene
where they are teaching it in a stuffy Catholic boys' school. Might be
worth a view first and then if he watches it, it is hilarious, that could be
an opening to a discussion or searching for more information.
Karen
Python's Meaning of Life has a lot of discussion about sex including a scene
where they are teaching it in a stuffy Catholic boys' school. Might be
worth a view first and then if he watches it, it is hilarious, that could be
an opening to a discussion or searching for more information.
Karen
On 10/6/07, Meredith <meredith@...> wrote:
>
> At L&L, Dianna strongly recommended strewing information for teens
> rather than having "talks" with them, so I'm looking for one or more
> books and/or movies to strew for Ray. He's sooooo resistant to anything
> that looks "educational" and as a result has some basic information,
> but its kind of patchy. We've been doing pretty well at addressing
> questions as they come up (thank god for all those E-D and "male
> enhancement" ads on tv!) but he's *very* self concious and modest, and
> its important that we respect his boundaries on this.
>
> So, those of you with teen guys - which books (or movies or comics or
> websites...) have they found useful and approachable? I'm needing to do
> my shopping online, so titles, Please!
>
> ---Meredith (Mo 6, Ray 14)
>
>
>
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So, those of you with teen guys - which books (or movies or comics or websites...) have they found useful and approachable? I'm needing to do my shopping online, so titles, Please!
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We have a copy of "What's Happening to My Body? for boys" -- which Will (22 now) read a lot, and a newer copy for Andy (who doesn't read much except manga books, wonder if there's manga sex ed book out there...) Actually, Andy's a kid who's never had a thought he didn't share, so he and I talk about sex very openly. Dan (6) is much more modest, but since he's around, he hears the sex questions Andy shares, so he doesn't have to ask directly.
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We have a copy of "What's Happening to My Body? for boys" -- which Will (22 now) read a lot, and a newer copy for Andy (who doesn't read much except manga books, wonder if there's manga sex ed book out there...) Actually, Andy's a kid who's never had a thought he didn't share, so he and I talk about sex very openly. Dan (6) is much more modest, but since he's around, he hears the sex questions Andy shares, so he doesn't have to ask directly.
Sylvia
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Meredith, have you tried _http://www.scarleteen.com/_
(http://www.scarleteen.com/) ? It's very open, ok? But I'm comfy with it.
I can describe my conversations with my son, if you like, over the years. He
is 18 now.
Karen PS :)
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(http://www.scarleteen.com/) ? It's very open, ok? But I'm comfy with it.
I can describe my conversations with my son, if you like, over the years. He
is 18 now.
Karen PS :)
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In a message dated 10/6/2007 10:14:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
luvbullbreeds@... writes:
Python's Meaning of Life has a lot of discussion about sex including a scene
where they are teaching it in a stuffy Catholic boys' school.
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Played by the woman that plays Magenta in Rocky Horror, Patricia Quinn! lol!
I just HAD to mention that, lol!
Harold and Maude is not "sex" but includes sex - focusing on living life
joyfully, and it can be related to sex easily. It's the BEST movie EVER lol :)
Karen PS
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luvbullbreeds@... writes:
Python's Meaning of Life has a lot of discussion about sex including a scene
where they are teaching it in a stuffy Catholic boys' school.
_______________________
Played by the woman that plays Magenta in Rocky Horror, Patricia Quinn! lol!
I just HAD to mention that, lol!
Harold and Maude is not "sex" but includes sex - focusing on living life
joyfully, and it can be related to sex easily. It's the BEST movie EVER lol :)
Karen PS
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carenkh
Someone mentioned "What's Happening to My Body?"
http://tinyurl.com/2qww7u - they have one for boys, one for girls.
Evan's very visual, so this one was good to leave lying around - until
he took it into his room, that is!
He took the OWL class at our church - Diana's a facilitator for that.
I want to become a facilitator and offer classes to homeschoolers!
Very, very open-minded approach. More info here:
http://www.uua.org/religiouseducation/curricula/ourwhole/ The book he
got there is full of info, but is more words than pictures. It's by
the same folks that did "Our Bodies, Ourselves". It's called Changing
Bodies, Changing Lives: http://tinyurl.com/37sndn
Savage Love is a *great* resource, very open-minded, pro-sex columnist
- and his columns are usually funny. Very honest approach:
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove
Midwest Teen Sex Show http://midwestteensexshow.com/ is just starting
out - I think it's got great potential, it's made by a midwestern mom,
but I don't think they do quite as much research as I would like
before they present a topic. Again, they're very funny. I haven't
shared that site with Evan yet, I'm still feeling it out. It might be
geared more toward girls.
peace,
Caren
http://tinyurl.com/2qww7u - they have one for boys, one for girls.
Evan's very visual, so this one was good to leave lying around - until
he took it into his room, that is!
He took the OWL class at our church - Diana's a facilitator for that.
I want to become a facilitator and offer classes to homeschoolers!
Very, very open-minded approach. More info here:
http://www.uua.org/religiouseducation/curricula/ourwhole/ The book he
got there is full of info, but is more words than pictures. It's by
the same folks that did "Our Bodies, Ourselves". It's called Changing
Bodies, Changing Lives: http://tinyurl.com/37sndn
Savage Love is a *great* resource, very open-minded, pro-sex columnist
- and his columns are usually funny. Very honest approach:
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove
Midwest Teen Sex Show http://midwestteensexshow.com/ is just starting
out - I think it's got great potential, it's made by a midwestern mom,
but I don't think they do quite as much research as I would like
before they present a topic. Again, they're very funny. I haven't
shared that site with Evan yet, I'm still feeling it out. It might be
geared more toward girls.
peace,
Caren
carenkh
Oh, yeah - I forgot when I was pregnant with Seth, we watched the Nova
about childbirth, Miracle of Life http://tinyurl.com/yqog5p That's
the DVD - we just happened to catch it on PBS!
That's less total sex ed than conception and pregnancy, but a very
beautiful episode. Evan still remembers it - 9 years later!
Caren
about childbirth, Miracle of Life http://tinyurl.com/yqog5p That's
the DVD - we just happened to catch it on PBS!
That's less total sex ed than conception and pregnancy, but a very
beautiful episode. Evan still remembers it - 9 years later!
Caren
Pamela Sorooshian
Good idea!
TV and movies are so great for this kind of thing.
We used to listen to Laura Schlessinger in the car, sometimes. Not to
get her advice on things, she doesn't seem to live in the same world
we do <G>, but because it was such a wonderful source of material for
interesting discussions. We'd listen to a call or two and then we'd
be talking (often talking back - usually scoffing at the Dr. Laura
parenting advice) so much that we'd just turn off the radio and
discuss for a while. Anyway, one thing I have to say for her, she
doesn't hesitate to address sexuality very directly - I used to teach
at USC when she was also teaching there. I taught economics in the
room next door to where she was teaching a human sexuality course
(her degree is in anatomy and physiology). I used to stand in the
doorway in the back of her room and listen. She was so direct and
clear - I'm sure it was the first time most of those college students
had heard anyone talk so openly about sexuality. Anyway - not that
I'm generally a fan of hers - but maybe turning on her radio shows
when you're driving in the car is a way to open up a lot of subjects
- makes it a lot more comfortable when you're talking about someone
else's situation - some stranger who called a radio program. It was
always fascinating to me to hear what my kids had to say - what
advice they offered, how they responded to Dr. Laura's advice.
-pam
TV and movies are so great for this kind of thing.
We used to listen to Laura Schlessinger in the car, sometimes. Not to
get her advice on things, she doesn't seem to live in the same world
we do <G>, but because it was such a wonderful source of material for
interesting discussions. We'd listen to a call or two and then we'd
be talking (often talking back - usually scoffing at the Dr. Laura
parenting advice) so much that we'd just turn off the radio and
discuss for a while. Anyway, one thing I have to say for her, she
doesn't hesitate to address sexuality very directly - I used to teach
at USC when she was also teaching there. I taught economics in the
room next door to where she was teaching a human sexuality course
(her degree is in anatomy and physiology). I used to stand in the
doorway in the back of her room and listen. She was so direct and
clear - I'm sure it was the first time most of those college students
had heard anyone talk so openly about sexuality. Anyway - not that
I'm generally a fan of hers - but maybe turning on her radio shows
when you're driving in the car is a way to open up a lot of subjects
- makes it a lot more comfortable when you're talking about someone
else's situation - some stranger who called a radio program. It was
always fascinating to me to hear what my kids had to say - what
advice they offered, how they responded to Dr. Laura's advice.
-pam
On Oct 6, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Karen Swanay wrote:
> You didn't ask me, and this may be more than your boy can handle,
> but Monty
> Python's Meaning of Life has a lot of discussion about sex
> including a scene
> where they are teaching it in a stuffy Catholic boys' school. Might be
> worth a view first and then if he watches it, it is hilarious, that
> could be
> an opening to a discussion or searching for more information.
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trektheory
Can't help you with resources, but I do take exception to info RATHER
than talks. Why not in addition? My son (rapidly approaching 16, and
finally in early puberty) and I have discussed sex off and on, when
the moment arises, over the course of years. It shouldn't, perhaps,
be one TALK, but a series of conversations. Let 'em know that they
can always come to you for the straight scoop, that things they hear
from others (especially kids) may be inaccurate, etc. Values,
consequences, birth control -- we've touched on all those over the
years, for many years. (The discussion should begin LONG before
puberty, ideally, but if it hasn't, now is better than later!)
So far, my son says he isn't interested in dating and such yet -- but
his body is just starting to get those hormones in gear, so who knows?
He hasn't indicated any particular interest in a girl (at least, not
since he was 10 or 11), but he may just be keeping it under his hat,
for all I know. (And since I suspect that the girls he most likely
would connect with are living in other states, dating is less likely!)
Linda
than talks. Why not in addition? My son (rapidly approaching 16, and
finally in early puberty) and I have discussed sex off and on, when
the moment arises, over the course of years. It shouldn't, perhaps,
be one TALK, but a series of conversations. Let 'em know that they
can always come to you for the straight scoop, that things they hear
from others (especially kids) may be inaccurate, etc. Values,
consequences, birth control -- we've touched on all those over the
years, for many years. (The discussion should begin LONG before
puberty, ideally, but if it hasn't, now is better than later!)
So far, my son says he isn't interested in dating and such yet -- but
his body is just starting to get those hormones in gear, so who knows?
He hasn't indicated any particular interest in a girl (at least, not
since he was 10 or 11), but he may just be keeping it under his hat,
for all I know. (And since I suspect that the girls he most likely
would connect with are living in other states, dating is less likely!)
Linda
--- In [email protected], "Meredith" <meredith@...> wrote:
>
> At L&L, Dianna strongly recommended strewing information for teens
> rather than having "talks" with them, so I'm looking for one or more
> books and/or movies to strew for Ray. He's sooooo resistant to anything
> that looks "educational" and as a result has some basic information,
> but its kind of patchy. We've been doing pretty well at addressing
> questions as they come up (thank god for all those E-D and "male
> enhancement" ads on tv!) but he's *very* self concious and modest, and
> its important that we respect his boundaries on this.
>
> So, those of you with teen guys - which books (or movies or comics or
> websites...) have they found useful and approachable? I'm needing to do
> my shopping online, so titles, Please!
>
> ---Meredith (Mo 6, Ray 14)
>
Pamela Sorooshian
On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:15 PM, trektheory wrote:
preferred parents to give them information, rather than thinking they
had to have "talks" with them. It wasn't that Diana recommended it so
much as that she reported on what the teens had said during their
discussion.
-pam
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> At L&L, Dianna strongly recommended strewing information for teensI think it was that she reported that the teens very strongly
> > rather than having "talks" with them, so I'm looking for one or more
> > books and/or movies to strew for Ray.
preferred parents to give them information, rather than thinking they
had to have "talks" with them. It wasn't that Diana recommended it so
much as that she reported on what the teens had said during their
discussion.
-pam
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Meredith
--- In [email protected], "trektheory"
<trektheory@...> wrote:
sort of thing, more a matter of strewing in different ways, sharing
information.... the usual sorts of unschooling things.
Since Ray's a newish addition to the family I've been noticing that
while we have gobs of resources on hand for my busy, visual, logical
6yo, who thinks science textbooks are light reading material, but
not so much on hand for a young teen who's likely to shriek in
terror at the sight of anything that looks "eduational", but still
wants to know a whole lot of things he can't learn watching tv.
Although, as I've said several times already, tv has been a Great
resource in terms of sparking some of those very important
conversations, especially those "male enhancement" ads - of all
things!
---Meredith (Mo 6, Ray 14)
<trektheory@...> wrote:
>RATHER
> Can't help you with resources, but I do take exception to info
> than talks. Why not in addition? My son (rapidly approaching 16,and
> finally in early puberty) and I have discussed sex off and on, whenperhaps,
> the moment arises, over the course of years. It shouldn't,
> be one TALK, but a series of conversations.Yes! I worded my post poorly, sorry. Its really not an either-or
sort of thing, more a matter of strewing in different ways, sharing
information.... the usual sorts of unschooling things.
Since Ray's a newish addition to the family I've been noticing that
while we have gobs of resources on hand for my busy, visual, logical
6yo, who thinks science textbooks are light reading material, but
not so much on hand for a young teen who's likely to shriek in
terror at the sight of anything that looks "eduational", but still
wants to know a whole lot of things he can't learn watching tv.
Although, as I've said several times already, tv has been a Great
resource in terms of sparking some of those very important
conversations, especially those "male enhancement" ads - of all
things!
---Meredith (Mo 6, Ray 14)
trektheory
--- In [email protected], "Meredith" <meredith@...> wrote:
Linda
>Oh, I HATE those ads! Sooo annoying! (And that dumb tune....)
>
> Although, as I've said several times already, tv has been a Great
> resource in terms of sparking some of those very important
> conversations, especially those "male enhancement" ads - of all
> things!
>
> ---Meredith (Mo 6, Ray 14)
>
Linda