need some book advice
Vanessa
Hi,
My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
might have.
I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
Thanks for your help in advance.
-Vanessa
My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
might have.
I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
Thanks for your help in advance.
-Vanessa
Julie Dutt
We like "The Care & Keeping of You". It's an American Girl book (but
has nothing to do with the dolls:)
julie
___
has nothing to do with the dolls:)
julie
___
On Jul 31, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Vanessa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of
> changes
> her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
> woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
> read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
> chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
> would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
> she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
> might have.
Julie
http://bittybraille.com
http://julieannhandmadegoods.com
http://julieann.etsy.com
http://julieann-handmade-goods.blogspot.com
http://indiediner.blogspot.com
http://findingwonder.blogspot.com
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[email protected]
Try the book "Its a Girl Thing." I cant remember the author but you should be able to find it on Amazon or somewhere. I also bought "Our Bodies, Ourselves" by the Boston Women's Health Collective (more advanced but has everything). "Its a Girl Thing" was very appropriate for my girls around age 8 to 10. I think its important to address this because my daughter came to me thinking she was dying of cancer because she had breast buds! She was about 9 at the time and was pretty distraught until she asked me about it. I felt so bad about that.
Kathryn
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Vanessa" <psychomom95@...>
Hi,
My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
might have.
I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
Thanks for your help in advance.
-Vanessa
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Kathryn
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Vanessa" <psychomom95@...>
Hi,
My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
might have.
I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
Thanks for your help in advance.
-Vanessa
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The Victors
The first book that came to my mind was �Are you there God, it�s me
Margaret.� I seem to remember it discussed it, but that was just the first
book that popped into my head when I read your post, so be sure that was
what the book was about.
Melissa
_____
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] need some book advice
Hi,
My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
might have.
I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
Thanks for your help in advance.
-Vanessa
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Margaret.� I seem to remember it discussed it, but that was just the first
book that popped into my head when I read your post, so be sure that was
what the book was about.
Melissa
_____
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] need some book advice
Hi,
My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
might have.
I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
Thanks for your help in advance.
-Vanessa
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kel9769
Hi Julie
I heartily second the American Girl books also. I bought 2 for my
daughter one about puberty and one about emotions. My daughter is
14 and only started her period wihting the last 6 months but showed
signs of hormone swings, breasts, etc. from 10. She absolutely
refused to talk with me about anything on the topic and she is not a
big reader. I just gave her the books and would bring up the
subject now and again. I know she read the books and she did find
them helpful. She assured me she knew what she needed to know and
just did not want to talk about it with me. I was worried how she
would take getting her period becuase she was so adamant about not
wanting to start. When the time came though she handled it
beautifully. She told me and let me know what she needed. She
didn't want to miss swimming so started using tampons right away.
She knew what to do from the books and knew they shouldn't hurt and
how often to change them. She was even patient with my asking how
she was (after I let her know I would only do it the first month).
Just last week I checked her if she was regular or having any
problems. I remenber as a young girl being obsessed about the
whole process so I wasn't sure how to deal with my girl's refusal to
talk about it. Once I knew she did understand what she needed to
know though I let her be. When the time came to handle it she did
great and everything turned out fine. Don't worry so much about
doing the right thing. As long as your daughter knows you are there
for her everything will work out. I was surprized by what a sweet
moment it was though, my only child becoming a young woman. Enjoy
it!
Kelly
I heartily second the American Girl books also. I bought 2 for my
daughter one about puberty and one about emotions. My daughter is
14 and only started her period wihting the last 6 months but showed
signs of hormone swings, breasts, etc. from 10. She absolutely
refused to talk with me about anything on the topic and she is not a
big reader. I just gave her the books and would bring up the
subject now and again. I know she read the books and she did find
them helpful. She assured me she knew what she needed to know and
just did not want to talk about it with me. I was worried how she
would take getting her period becuase she was so adamant about not
wanting to start. When the time came though she handled it
beautifully. She told me and let me know what she needed. She
didn't want to miss swimming so started using tampons right away.
She knew what to do from the books and knew they shouldn't hurt and
how often to change them. She was even patient with my asking how
she was (after I let her know I would only do it the first month).
Just last week I checked her if she was regular or having any
problems. I remenber as a young girl being obsessed about the
whole process so I wasn't sure how to deal with my girl's refusal to
talk about it. Once I knew she did understand what she needed to
know though I let her be. When the time came to handle it she did
great and everything turned out fine. Don't worry so much about
doing the right thing. As long as your daughter knows you are there
for her everything will work out. I was surprized by what a sweet
moment it was though, my only child becoming a young woman. Enjoy
it!
Kelly
Schuyler
My favorite book when I was about that age was Our Bodies Our Selves. It
talked not only about the biology but also about the politics surrounding
women's bodies and women's rights. I know there are recent editions, the
newest is on my list of things to buy from amazon.co.uk.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
talked not only about the biology but also about the politics surrounding
women's bodies and women's rights. I know there are recent editions, the
newest is on my list of things to buy from amazon.co.uk.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vanessa" <psychomom95@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] need some book advice
> Hi,
>
> My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
> her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
> woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
> read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
> chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
> would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
> she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
> might have.
>
> I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
> never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
> topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> -Vanessa
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
diana jenner
On 7/31/07, Schuyler <s.waynforth@...> wrote:
In the OWL (Our Whole Lives) comprehensive sex ed program I facilitate
through my UU church, we use:
"What's Happening to My Body" -- there's a girl version, a boy version, a
general version, a parent guide and assorted journals/workbooks available on
Amazon (the new editions of these books are called My Body My Self). There's
a funny one called "What's Going On Down There?"
If you've got relationship with a local UU or UCC church, there are
materials available for loan and possibly a parents workshop you can glean
some information from. (There is a separate component of religion that can
be added to the program; it's not, by nature, a religious course!)
I also liked having The Joy of Sex available to me at this age... it was
nice to see the variety of bodies possible out of my lumpy hormonal self :)
I didn't have it handed to me, it was *hidden in plain sight* in the hall
closet and no one mentioned if they saw it missing for a couple of days!
Your next *moon time* supply shopping is a great segue into the topic... as
you're picking out whatever you use, you can mention that maybe we should
have an extra box just for her, as her time may be coming soon... if it's
matter of fact and open, she may pop out any questions she's been harboring
-or- she may let it sink in a bit before coming to you. Know anyone pregnant
&/or nursing?? Their bodies are also a great talk starter for body changes.
--
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.blogspot.com
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>I also love Our bodies, Our Selves!!
> My favorite book when I was about that age was Our Bodies Our Selves. It
>
> talked not only about the biology but also about the politics surrounding
> women's bodies and women's rights. I know there are recent editions, the
> newest is on my list of things to buy from amazon.co.uk.
>
>
In the OWL (Our Whole Lives) comprehensive sex ed program I facilitate
through my UU church, we use:
"What's Happening to My Body" -- there's a girl version, a boy version, a
general version, a parent guide and assorted journals/workbooks available on
Amazon (the new editions of these books are called My Body My Self). There's
a funny one called "What's Going On Down There?"
If you've got relationship with a local UU or UCC church, there are
materials available for loan and possibly a parents workshop you can glean
some information from. (There is a separate component of religion that can
be added to the program; it's not, by nature, a religious course!)
I also liked having The Joy of Sex available to me at this age... it was
nice to see the variety of bodies possible out of my lumpy hormonal self :)
I didn't have it handed to me, it was *hidden in plain sight* in the hall
closet and no one mentioned if they saw it missing for a couple of days!
Your next *moon time* supply shopping is a great segue into the topic... as
you're picking out whatever you use, you can mention that maybe we should
have an extra box just for her, as her time may be coming soon... if it's
matter of fact and open, she may pop out any questions she's been harboring
-or- she may let it sink in a bit before coming to you. Know anyone pregnant
&/or nursing?? Their bodies are also a great talk starter for body changes.
--
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.blogspot.com
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riasplace3
--- In [email protected], "diana jenner"
<hahamommy@...> wrote:
we use:
book sale a couple weeks ago, and haven't had time to look through it,
but thought it "looked" good. : )
I've used this site with my girls.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/body/interactives/lifecycle/teena
gers/
HTH,
Ria
<hahamommy@...> wrote:
we use:
> "What's Happening to My Body"Oh, good, I was hoping this was a good book...I picked it up at a used
book sale a couple weeks ago, and haven't had time to look through it,
but thought it "looked" good. : )
I've used this site with my girls.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/body/interactives/lifecycle/teena
gers/
HTH,
Ria
Deb
--- In [email protected], "diana jenner"
<hahamommy@...> wrote:
we've had a particularly large dose of Harry Potter lately LOL
--Deb
<hahamommy@...> wrote:
> In the OWL (Our Whole Lives) ...I saw OWL and immediately thought "Ordinary Wizarding Level" - guess
we've had a particularly large dose of Harry Potter lately LOL
--Deb
kel9769
> If you've got relationship with a local UU or UCC church, there areglean
> materials available for loan and possibly a parents workshop you can
> some information from. (There is a separate component of religionthat can
> be added to the program; it's not, by nature, a religious course!)Our UU church is offering OWL for the first time next year. I think
it sounds like a good program but my daughter does NOT want to go. As
I said before she doesn't want to talk about those things at all at
this point. I thought maybe she would benifit from talking to other
kids her age in an open way and an adult that is not her mother but so
far she is adamant. She did choose to join YRU2 (senior high youth
group) though so maybe she will change her mind after the other kids
start.
Kelly
Lesa
Vanessa,
I have the same thing going on with my daughter and the coolest book I've
found is published by American Girl. I've seen it sold at Bath & Bodyworks.
Sorry, but I can't think of the name of the book right now.
Lesa M.
Crunchy Unschooling mom to dd10
Currently Reading: "Traveling Mercies" by Anne Lamott
http://livinginfreedomeveryday.blogspot.com/
-------Original Message-------
From: Vanessa
Date: 07/31/07 08:49:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] need some book advice
Hi,
My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
might have.
I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
Thanks for your help in advance.
-Vanessa
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I have the same thing going on with my daughter and the coolest book I've
found is published by American Girl. I've seen it sold at Bath & Bodyworks.
Sorry, but I can't think of the name of the book right now.
Lesa M.
Crunchy Unschooling mom to dd10
Currently Reading: "Traveling Mercies" by Anne Lamott
http://livinginfreedomeveryday.blogspot.com/
-------Original Message-------
From: Vanessa
Date: 07/31/07 08:49:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] need some book advice
Hi,
My daughter is 10, and I will be needing to explain the kind of changes
her body will be going through when she starts to blossom into a young
woman. I was wondering if someone could recommend a book that I could
read with her about what's happening with her body. I'm not trying to
chicken out, but my daughter loves to read, so I thought maybe a book
would be better, so that if she gets confused(which happens easily),
she can go back and read it again, and I can answer any questions she
might have.
I hope this doesn't sound weird, but she's my only daughter, and I've
never had to do this before. I'm not sure this is an unschooling
topic, but it's something she'll need to understand, and learn about.
Thanks for your help in advance.
-Vanessa
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Schafer Vanessa
I love Harry Potter too. I finished the new book in a
couple of days, and am sad to see them end, but love
the movies.!!!
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--- Deb <debra.rossing@...> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "dianaVanessa
> jenner"
> <hahamommy@...> wrote:
> > In the OWL (Our Whole Lives) ...
>
> I saw OWL and immediately thought "Ordinary
> Wizarding Level" - guess
> we've had a particularly large dose of Harry Potter
> lately LOL
>
> --Deb
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On 7/31/07, Deb <debra.rossing@...> wrote:
~Hey Kelly, can I add that to my resume for the conference sex talk?? ~
--
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.blogspot.com
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>Wow! I got an OWL in Sex ED!! Yay me :)
> --- In [email protected]<unschoolingbasics%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "diana jenner"
> <hahamommy@...> wrote:
> > In the OWL (Our Whole Lives) ...
>
> I saw OWL and immediately thought "Ordinary Wizarding Level" - guess
> we've had a particularly large dose of Harry Potter lately LOL
>
> --Deb
>
> _
>
>
>
~Hey Kelly, can I add that to my resume for the conference sex talk?? ~
--
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.blogspot.com
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diana jenner
On 7/31/07, kel9769 <kel9769@...> wrote:
I love the program and I really enjoyed facilitating it for both middle and
high school aged groups. Unfortunately, the other facilitators were not as
kid/hormone/craziness friendly as me and I don't think it was across the
board a good time for the kids when I had the week off. In fact, I really
got weird vibes from the young-kid facilitator and didn't even send MY kids
to the program. (I don't like the idea of taking sexuality out of a
whole-wide-life context and frankly, my kids didn't need the info and their
need for socializing wasn't honored in that setting)
The intro program for parents (I'd show up even if your daughter isn't going
to attend, just to glean the info) is really fun and addresses lots of
issues like not wanting to talk to *you* about certain topics and what
strange ideas you may be harboring that you're consciously unaware of that
may be blocking your child's freedom within the realm of human sexuality. If
your daughter has a chance to build some trust with the facilitator before
the program starts, she may change her mind... if not, she has at least
gained trust with another adult she can go to with questions & concerns.
--
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.blogspot.com
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>-=-
> > If you've got relationship with a local UU or UCC church, there are
> > materials available for loan and possibly a parents workshop you can
> glean
> > some information from. (There is a separate component of religion
> that can
> > be added to the program; it's not, by nature, a religious course!)
>
> Our UU church is offering OWL for the first time next year. I think
> it sounds like a good program but my daughter does NOT want to go. As
> I said before she doesn't want to talk about those things at all at
> this point. I thought maybe she would benefit from talking to other
> kids her age in an open way and an adult that is not her mother but so
> far she is adamant. She did choose to join YRU2 (senior high youth
> group) though so maybe she will change her mind after the other kids
> start.
>
>
>
I love the program and I really enjoyed facilitating it for both middle and
high school aged groups. Unfortunately, the other facilitators were not as
kid/hormone/craziness friendly as me and I don't think it was across the
board a good time for the kids when I had the week off. In fact, I really
got weird vibes from the young-kid facilitator and didn't even send MY kids
to the program. (I don't like the idea of taking sexuality out of a
whole-wide-life context and frankly, my kids didn't need the info and their
need for socializing wasn't honored in that setting)
The intro program for parents (I'd show up even if your daughter isn't going
to attend, just to glean the info) is really fun and addresses lots of
issues like not wanting to talk to *you* about certain topics and what
strange ideas you may be harboring that you're consciously unaware of that
may be blocking your child's freedom within the realm of human sexuality. If
your daughter has a chance to build some trust with the facilitator before
the program starts, she may change her mind... if not, she has at least
gained trust with another adult she can go to with questions & concerns.
--
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.blogspot.com
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[email protected]
My favorites are Period.: A Girl's Guide by _JoAnn Loulan_
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/002-9993828-9623259?_encoding=UTF8&search-ty
pe=ss&index=books&field-author=JoAnn%20Loulan) and The Playbook for Kids
About Sex by Joani Blank. There's also a Playbook for women.
I found with Julian the best approach was the strewing method. I'd let him
know casually that there was a book there he might be interested in. He'd often
grab it casually and disappear into his room for a while. I let him know I
was open to questions and conversation, and sometimes I'd just start
conversations.
If you have a kid who's shy about talking about stuff (sex, whatever), the
car is a great place to do it.You choose a time where you're going to be in the
car for a while, then talk. No eye contact, so it's more comfortable for shy
kids (or adults, I suppose.)
This is not unschooling related, but there was a Malcolm in the Middle
episode I loved. The mom tells Malcolm in a long car ride that she has no idea
what information he's going to need about sex so she's just going to share what
she knows and thinks is important. He's horrified as she describes her first
experience, etc. At one point he asks her to stop the car. He gets out, throws
up, gets back in, and asks her to go on. It was very honest and touching.
Well, this may horrify the folks who think we're sex addicts, etc., but
lately one of the things popular in this house is the show Talking Sex With Sue
Johanson. If you've never seen it, look for it. You'll wish your mom was Sue.
Kathryn
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(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/002-9993828-9623259?_encoding=UTF8&search-ty
pe=ss&index=books&field-author=JoAnn%20Loulan) and The Playbook for Kids
About Sex by Joani Blank. There's also a Playbook for women.
I found with Julian the best approach was the strewing method. I'd let him
know casually that there was a book there he might be interested in. He'd often
grab it casually and disappear into his room for a while. I let him know I
was open to questions and conversation, and sometimes I'd just start
conversations.
If you have a kid who's shy about talking about stuff (sex, whatever), the
car is a great place to do it.You choose a time where you're going to be in the
car for a while, then talk. No eye contact, so it's more comfortable for shy
kids (or adults, I suppose.)
This is not unschooling related, but there was a Malcolm in the Middle
episode I loved. The mom tells Malcolm in a long car ride that she has no idea
what information he's going to need about sex so she's just going to share what
she knows and thinks is important. He's horrified as she describes her first
experience, etc. At one point he asks her to stop the car. He gets out, throws
up, gets back in, and asks her to go on. It was very honest and touching.
Well, this may horrify the folks who think we're sex addicts, etc., but
lately one of the things popular in this house is the show Talking Sex With Sue
Johanson. If you've never seen it, look for it. You'll wish your mom was Sue.
Kathryn
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