mooredlighthouse

I have unschooled my ds(7) and dd(10) over the last year, and in
accordance with an agreement with my ex (the only way he would give
permission for them to stay home) they need to be "standardized tested"
for "progress". Though I disagree with this whole concept, I agreed to
this in order to bring the children home. I have a few ideas in mind
for the test, but are there any of you out there who can recommend a
particular evaluative test and or process to me? I am leaning toward
either ordering PASS or taking the children in to be tested at the
local Sylvan Learning Center. All it needs to show is grade-level and
progress in the 3R's. Any ideas and counsel on this
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Katie

Julie Dutt

I use the TAKS test (Texas Achievement test) as do many in my
homeschool group. It is free for download and so far, my school
district (NY state) hasn't said anything. I administer it myself at
our leisure, grade it myself and send them a copy of the answer page
with her test score. Here is a link:

http://scotthochberg.com/taas.html

HTH
julie

On Jun 7, 2007, at 5:25 PM, mooredlighthouse wrote:

> I have unschooled my ds(7) and dd(10) over the last year, and in
> accordance with an agreement with my ex (the only way he would give
> permission for them to stay home) they need to be "standardized
> tested"
> for "progress". Though I disagree with this whole concept, I agreed to
> this in order to bring the children home. I have a few ideas in mind
> for the test, but are there any of you out there who can recommend a
> particular evaluative test and or process to me? I am leaning toward
> either ordering PASS or taking the children in to be tested at the
> local Sylvan Learning Center. All it needs to show is grade-level and
> progress in the 3R's. Any ideas and counsel on this
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Katie

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diana jenner

On 6/7/07, mooredlighthouse <mooredlighthouse@...> wrote:
>
> I have unschooled my ds(7) and dd(10) over the last year, and in
> accordance with an agreement with my ex (the only way he would give
> permission for them to stay home) they need to be "standardized tested"
> for "progress". Though I disagree with this whole concept, I agreed to
> this in order to bring the children home. I have a few ideas in mind
> for the test, but are there any of you out there who can recommend a
> particular evaluative test and or process to me? I am leaning toward
> either ordering PASS or taking the children in to be tested at the
> local Sylvan Learning Center. All it needs to show is grade-level and
> progress in the 3R's. Any ideas and counsel on this
> would be appreciated.
>
>


I did one standardized test with Hannah, for the local school district. We
used their test and only did the parts required by the State. I let her do
it like a workbook, on her own time with whatever help she asked for (even
from her 2 years younger brother!!). It was fun to *do school* for a few
days, especially since we did it OUR way :::bg:::

Our state law is written such that a child is tested in their *normal
learning environment* thereby enabling our children to test at home (PS kids
get a delayed test if their normal classroom teacher is unavailable!). I
wouldn't recommend the Sylvan thing, just because they're so filled with
school propaganda your kids may not perform as well as they would at home or
at the park or in the car (wherever they're comfy doing it!).

Could you convince their Dad to ditch the test and hire an annual evaluator
instead? (an experienced unschooler who has some letters after their name -
to make it feel official - to write in educationese how well your kids are
doing?)
--
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.blogspot.com


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Sylvia Toyama

I am leaning toward
either ordering PASS or taking the children in to be tested at the
local Sylvan Learning Center. All it needs to show is grade-level and
progress in the 3R's. Any ideas and counsel on this
would be appreciated.

*****
I would avoid any place like Sylvan, or any other tutoring services. They're in the business of finding what's wrong with a child's educational performance. After all, if every kid who comes in is actually at grade-level, where will they make their money?

Sylvia


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kristenhendricks55

Ahhh Sylvan learning centers... how I remember those days. When I was
in 8th grade, my teachers INSISTED my mom take me there to be
evaluated, so she did.

They said I had ADD and was purposefully goofing around in school
simply because I couldn't concentrate on doing anything organized.
Well, a teacher at the school I went to talked to me once after
school and I mentioned how I had to go there every week. She couldnt
understand why. Here to find out she was the AP (advanced placement)
English teacher and she had me come to her room after school the next
day and she sat down with me and I took a test.

I never went back to Sylvan after that. I had off-the-chart test
scores and she was so amazed that they actually thought I couldn't
concentrate. It was then, and only then, did I explain to her that I
was so bored by the lecturing by other teachers because I already
knew what they were going to say before they said it. I got poor
scores in Math because I didn't write out my work. I didn't need to.
I could do it in my head.

Finally, my mom understood and came to my side (and she was an
attorney, thank goodness!! LOL) and went to battle for me. She fought
with the teacher to the point where she asked him why I should be
punished for not writing out the work simply because HE couldn't do
it in HIS head. Finally... I got bumped up in 9th grade to some
junior and senior level classes and didn't have to show work that the
teacher already knew I understood.

And here the Syvlan people didn't think I could even comprehend what
the teacher was saying. I probably could have taught that idiot at
Sylvan that graded the workbooks. PUHLEEEZ!!



--- In [email protected], Sylvia Toyama <sylgt04@...>
wrote:
>
> I am leaning toward
> either ordering PASS or taking the children in to be tested at the
> local Sylvan Learning Center. All it needs to show is grade-level
and
> progress in the 3R's. Any ideas and counsel on this
> would be appreciated.
>
> *****
> I would avoid any place like Sylvan, or any other tutoring
services. They're in the business of finding what's wrong with a
child's educational performance. After all, if every kid who comes
in is actually at grade-level, where will they make their money?
>
> Sylvia
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo!
Travel.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Kristie Cochran

Most in my state use the CAT (California Achievement Test) and order it
from Seton Home: http://www.setonhome.org/testing/

It is inexpensive and they are very quick to score the tests. You
administer the test at home and then send it to them, they score it and
send it back to you.

Or, as others have suggested, you could get an evaluator to evaluate
their "progress."

Kristie in VA

mooredlighthouse wrote:
>
> I have unschooled my ds(7) and dd(10) over the last year, and in
> accordance with an agreement with my ex (the only way he would give
> permission for them to stay home) they need to be "standardized tested"
> for "progress". Though I disagree with this whole concept, I agreed to
> this in order to bring the children home. I have a few ideas in mind
> for the test, but are there any of you out there who can recommend a
> particular evaluative test and or process to me? I am leaning toward
> either ordering PASS or taking the children in to be tested at the
> local Sylvan Learning Center. All it needs to show is grade-level and
> progress in the 3R's. Any ideas and counsel on this
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Katie
>
>