Intro & friendship ?'s (long)
quinnannalisesmom
Hello! I'm Rebecca, mama to 1 dd (turning 2yo in <gulp> 11 days) in
Colorado. I've been lurking here and on several other unschooling
groups for a few months now. I suppose we have been unschooling from
the start. I just didn't know that's what it's called. We've never
had limits or training regarding food, sleep, etc.
We did take one signing class when dd was 12 months old, but we
didn't do our homework or even go to half of the classes due to
napping and otherwise not being in the mood (dd's mood ;) ).
Everyone I know seems to think baby signing is so wonderful, but
those classes were disturbing to me. The instructor created
pressure/competition by asking how many signs our babies were doing
at the start of each class. Some of the suggested teaching methods
were creepy too, such as pausing between giving the baby bites of
food until they signed "more" and "food." No one I've talked to
about this seems to understand my discomfort, but perhaps some of you
understand what I'm saying. Anyway, that experience led me to
thinking about homeschooling then unschooling.
My dh and I have been learning about unschooling and also reading
about NVC and consensual living. Fortunately he is all for it,
although I think we both have some deschooling to do. I can't
imagine our families will be accepting, but they haven't understood
most of our parenting choices (homebirth, no vax, extended
breastfeeding, etc.)
I'm starting to wonder about how unschooling will affect my
friendships though. I have been fortunate to have developed
friendships with like-minded mamas around attachment parenting. When
our children were infants, we were all doing similar things. Now
that we are parenting toddlers and some school-aged children, our
parenting styles are starting to feel much different. We still share
some common interests of course, but there's so much talk about
preschools/schools, giving rewards and overall *conditional*
parenting, subtly and not-so-subtly comparing kids' aptitude at
various skills...I'm starting to feel like an outsider even among my
outsider friends.
How have your friendships changed as you became an unschooling
parent?
How do you and your children maintain friendships with others who are
approaching general living in a very different way?
TIA for your input. I've learned so much here already!
Rebecca
Colorado. I've been lurking here and on several other unschooling
groups for a few months now. I suppose we have been unschooling from
the start. I just didn't know that's what it's called. We've never
had limits or training regarding food, sleep, etc.
We did take one signing class when dd was 12 months old, but we
didn't do our homework or even go to half of the classes due to
napping and otherwise not being in the mood (dd's mood ;) ).
Everyone I know seems to think baby signing is so wonderful, but
those classes were disturbing to me. The instructor created
pressure/competition by asking how many signs our babies were doing
at the start of each class. Some of the suggested teaching methods
were creepy too, such as pausing between giving the baby bites of
food until they signed "more" and "food." No one I've talked to
about this seems to understand my discomfort, but perhaps some of you
understand what I'm saying. Anyway, that experience led me to
thinking about homeschooling then unschooling.
My dh and I have been learning about unschooling and also reading
about NVC and consensual living. Fortunately he is all for it,
although I think we both have some deschooling to do. I can't
imagine our families will be accepting, but they haven't understood
most of our parenting choices (homebirth, no vax, extended
breastfeeding, etc.)
I'm starting to wonder about how unschooling will affect my
friendships though. I have been fortunate to have developed
friendships with like-minded mamas around attachment parenting. When
our children were infants, we were all doing similar things. Now
that we are parenting toddlers and some school-aged children, our
parenting styles are starting to feel much different. We still share
some common interests of course, but there's so much talk about
preschools/schools, giving rewards and overall *conditional*
parenting, subtly and not-so-subtly comparing kids' aptitude at
various skills...I'm starting to feel like an outsider even among my
outsider friends.
How have your friendships changed as you became an unschooling
parent?
How do you and your children maintain friendships with others who are
approaching general living in a very different way?
TIA for your input. I've learned so much here already!
Rebecca
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-----Original Message-----
From: roteameise@...
I'm starting to wonder about how unschooling will affect my
friendships though. I have been fortunate to have developed
friendships with like-minded mamas around attachment parenting. When
our children were infants, we were all doing similar things. Now
that we are parenting toddlers and some school-aged children, our
parenting styles are starting to feel much different. We still share
some common interests of course, but there's so much talk about
preschools/schools, giving rewards and overall *conditional*
parenting, subtly and not-so-subtly comparing kids' aptitude at
various skills...I'm starting to feel like an outsider even among my
outsider friends.
-=-=-=-
You may find yourself losing those friends....but making others! <g>
Parenting choices seem to be the number one reason for relationships to
end. Like: your choice of mate and then your parenting style---the two
things that'll end a friendship! <G>
-=-=-=-=-=-
How have your friendships changed as you became an unschooling
parent?
-=-=-=-=-
If they aren't hard-core unschoolers, they have no kids: we've found we
have better relationships with childless friends.
Oh---and long-distance friends whom we never see. Old Air Force
friends---we were buds before children or when our kids were babies. We
wouldn't be friends if we lived nearby; but because we see each other
every 2-3 years, it's no big deal.
We're soooo much happier when we do things with other radical
unschoolers. And we all go out of our ways to make these arrangements.
In fact, we're meeting up with a bunch of (80!) radical unschoolers
this weekend, going to PA with three other radical unschooling families
next week, and having another radical unschooling family from Ohio for
Easter Dinner. No one's from around here. We're all making a HUGE
effort to be together. But it's sooo worth it! Kids play so well
together! No one asks about curriculum. <g> It's just a pleasant way to
live!
-=-=-=-=-=-
How do you and your children maintain friendships with others who are
approaching general living in a very different way?
-=-=-=-=-
We don't much. We don't do "family" outings with extended family
either. It's just too painful to watch them be so mean to their kids.
They don't hit or anything---it's just the underlying meanness that's
incredibly intolerable. The comparing and shaming and bickering. Yuck.
The more we get to know unschoolers, the more we like them. And the
more unschoolers we can bring "into the fold," the more friends *we*
will have and the more friends our kids will have.
Another reason for the conferences! To meet more unschoolers!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
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From: roteameise@...
I'm starting to wonder about how unschooling will affect my
friendships though. I have been fortunate to have developed
friendships with like-minded mamas around attachment parenting. When
our children were infants, we were all doing similar things. Now
that we are parenting toddlers and some school-aged children, our
parenting styles are starting to feel much different. We still share
some common interests of course, but there's so much talk about
preschools/schools, giving rewards and overall *conditional*
parenting, subtly and not-so-subtly comparing kids' aptitude at
various skills...I'm starting to feel like an outsider even among my
outsider friends.
-=-=-=-
You may find yourself losing those friends....but making others! <g>
Parenting choices seem to be the number one reason for relationships to
end. Like: your choice of mate and then your parenting style---the two
things that'll end a friendship! <G>
-=-=-=-=-=-
How have your friendships changed as you became an unschooling
parent?
-=-=-=-=-
If they aren't hard-core unschoolers, they have no kids: we've found we
have better relationships with childless friends.
Oh---and long-distance friends whom we never see. Old Air Force
friends---we were buds before children or when our kids were babies. We
wouldn't be friends if we lived nearby; but because we see each other
every 2-3 years, it's no big deal.
We're soooo much happier when we do things with other radical
unschoolers. And we all go out of our ways to make these arrangements.
In fact, we're meeting up with a bunch of (80!) radical unschoolers
this weekend, going to PA with three other radical unschooling families
next week, and having another radical unschooling family from Ohio for
Easter Dinner. No one's from around here. We're all making a HUGE
effort to be together. But it's sooo worth it! Kids play so well
together! No one asks about curriculum. <g> It's just a pleasant way to
live!
-=-=-=-=-=-
How do you and your children maintain friendships with others who are
approaching general living in a very different way?
-=-=-=-=-
We don't much. We don't do "family" outings with extended family
either. It's just too painful to watch them be so mean to their kids.
They don't hit or anything---it's just the underlying meanness that's
incredibly intolerable. The comparing and shaming and bickering. Yuck.
The more we get to know unschoolers, the more we like them. And the
more unschoolers we can bring "into the fold," the more friends *we*
will have and the more friends our kids will have.
Another reason for the conferences! To meet more unschoolers!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
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Georgette Teekel
Hello Rebecca,I'm Georgette and i'm from Louisiana.I am rather new to all this but so far i have gained so many friends,cause everyone wants to HELP or Give there advice.I find homeschooling moms to be more frienlier,ha!AND more likely to lend a hand caus they have either been there are they are experiencing it themselves.
I hope you got something from this and if not i'm sorry!
quinnannalisesmom <roteameise@...> wrote:
Hello! I'm Rebecca, mama to 1 dd (turning 2yo in <gulp> 11 days) in
Colorado. I've been lurking here and on several other unschooling
groups for a few months now. I suppose we have been unschooling from
the start. I just didn't know that's what it's called. We've never
had limits or training regarding food, sleep, etc.
We did take one signing class when dd was 12 months old, but we
didn't do our homework or even go to half of the classes due to
napping and otherwise not being in the mood (dd's mood ;) ).
Everyone I know seems to think baby signing is so wonderful, but
those classes were disturbing to me. The instructor created
pressure/competition by asking how many signs our babies were doing
at the start of each class. Some of the suggested teaching methods
were creepy too, such as pausing between giving the baby bites of
food until they signed "more" and "food." No one I've talked to
about this seems to understand my discomfort, but perhaps some of you
understand what I'm saying. Anyway, that experience led me to
thinking about homeschooling then unschooling.
My dh and I have been learning about unschooling and also reading
about NVC and consensual living. Fortunately he is all for it,
although I think we both have some deschooling to do. I can't
imagine our families will be accepting, but they haven't understood
most of our parenting choices (homebirth, no vax, extended
breastfeeding, etc.)
I'm starting to wonder about how unschooling will affect my
friendships though. I have been fortunate to have developed
friendships with like-minded mamas around attachment parenting. When
our children were infants, we were all doing similar things. Now
that we are parenting toddlers and some school-aged children, our
parenting styles are starting to feel much different. We still share
some common interests of course, but there's so much talk about
preschools/schools, giving rewards and overall *conditional*
parenting, subtly and not-so-subtly comparing kids' aptitude at
various skills...I'm starting to feel like an outsider even among my
outsider friends.
How have your friendships changed as you became an unschooling
parent?
How do you and your children maintain friendships with others who are
approaching general living in a very different way?
TIA for your input. I've learned so much here already!
Rebecca
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I hope you got something from this and if not i'm sorry!
quinnannalisesmom <roteameise@...> wrote:
Hello! I'm Rebecca, mama to 1 dd (turning 2yo in <gulp> 11 days) in
Colorado. I've been lurking here and on several other unschooling
groups for a few months now. I suppose we have been unschooling from
the start. I just didn't know that's what it's called. We've never
had limits or training regarding food, sleep, etc.
We did take one signing class when dd was 12 months old, but we
didn't do our homework or even go to half of the classes due to
napping and otherwise not being in the mood (dd's mood ;) ).
Everyone I know seems to think baby signing is so wonderful, but
those classes were disturbing to me. The instructor created
pressure/competition by asking how many signs our babies were doing
at the start of each class. Some of the suggested teaching methods
were creepy too, such as pausing between giving the baby bites of
food until they signed "more" and "food." No one I've talked to
about this seems to understand my discomfort, but perhaps some of you
understand what I'm saying. Anyway, that experience led me to
thinking about homeschooling then unschooling.
My dh and I have been learning about unschooling and also reading
about NVC and consensual living. Fortunately he is all for it,
although I think we both have some deschooling to do. I can't
imagine our families will be accepting, but they haven't understood
most of our parenting choices (homebirth, no vax, extended
breastfeeding, etc.)
I'm starting to wonder about how unschooling will affect my
friendships though. I have been fortunate to have developed
friendships with like-minded mamas around attachment parenting. When
our children were infants, we were all doing similar things. Now
that we are parenting toddlers and some school-aged children, our
parenting styles are starting to feel much different. We still share
some common interests of course, but there's so much talk about
preschools/schools, giving rewards and overall *conditional*
parenting, subtly and not-so-subtly comparing kids' aptitude at
various skills...I'm starting to feel like an outsider even among my
outsider friends.
How have your friendships changed as you became an unschooling
parent?
How do you and your children maintain friendships with others who are
approaching general living in a very different way?
TIA for your input. I've learned so much here already!
Rebecca
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Mara
- But it's sooo worth it! Kids play so well
together! No one asks about curriculum. <g> It's just
a pleasant way to
live! -
Kelly, I just wanted to repeat that again. What I have
noticed most about my kids meeting other unschoolers
is how well they all play together. We now have
regular meetings, with a lot of swordfighting going
on, but no-one gets hurt and everyone has so much fun.
And I love their moms too and am finally finding that
I am not the odd one out anymore !
Thanks to you all!
Love,
Mara
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together! No one asks about curriculum. <g> It's just
a pleasant way to
live! -
Kelly, I just wanted to repeat that again. What I have
noticed most about my kids meeting other unschoolers
is how well they all play together. We now have
regular meetings, with a lot of swordfighting going
on, but no-one gets hurt and everyone has so much fun.
And I love their moms too and am finally finding that
I am not the odd one out anymore !
Thanks to you all!
Love,
Mara
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quinnannalisesmom
I hear you about making new *unschooler* friends. It seems a little
awkward to seek out the homeschool crowd when my daughter isn't even
2yo. I need to be creative. Any ideas on how to sniff out the
unschoolers in my local homeschool groups without labeling myself as a
radical? And in the meantime, I'm so happy to have found this group. :)
Perhaps I need to make some *new* childless friends too. My childless
friends from pre-parenthood aren't too keen on hanging out with my
spunky toddler!
Rebecca
awkward to seek out the homeschool crowd when my daughter isn't even
2yo. I need to be creative. Any ideas on how to sniff out the
unschoolers in my local homeschool groups without labeling myself as a
radical? And in the meantime, I'm so happy to have found this group. :)
Perhaps I need to make some *new* childless friends too. My childless
friends from pre-parenthood aren't too keen on hanging out with my
spunky toddler!
Rebecca
quinnannalisesmom
Georgette, I grew up in South Louisiana. Most of my family still lives
there.
Unschoolers do seem like a friendly bunch!
Rebecca
there.
Unschoolers do seem like a friendly bunch!
Rebecca
Georgette Teekel
Where you live now ?
quinnannalisesmom <roteameise@...> wrote: Georgette, I grew up in South Louisiana. Most of my family still lives
there.
Unschoolers do seem like a friendly bunch!
Rebecca
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quinnannalisesmom <roteameise@...> wrote: Georgette, I grew up in South Louisiana. Most of my family still lives
there.
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Georgette Teekel
It doesn't matter if you have childless friends or friends with children,but you NEED A HOBBY,then you'll have something to do besides school,it'll be relaxing and there may even be someone elese in our neighborhood who does the same hobby.Then you could have a PLAYDATE,while you did your hobby.
quinnannalisesmom <roteameise@...> wrote: I hear you about making new *unschooler* friends. It seems a little
awkward to seek out the homeschool crowd when my daughter isn't even
2yo. I need to be creative. Any ideas on how to sniff out the
unschoolers in my local homeschool groups without labeling myself as a
radical? And in the meantime, I'm so happy to have found this group. :)
Perhaps I need to make some *new* childless friends too. My childless
friends from pre-parenthood aren't too keen on hanging out with my
spunky toddler!
Rebecca
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quinnannalisesmom <roteameise@...> wrote: I hear you about making new *unschooler* friends. It seems a little
awkward to seek out the homeschool crowd when my daughter isn't even
2yo. I need to be creative. Any ideas on how to sniff out the
unschoolers in my local homeschool groups without labeling myself as a
radical? And in the meantime, I'm so happy to have found this group. :)
Perhaps I need to make some *new* childless friends too. My childless
friends from pre-parenthood aren't too keen on hanging out with my
spunky toddler!
Rebecca
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Lisa Heyman
>From: "quinnannalisesmom" <roteameise@...>When my oldest dd was 2 i hung out with homeschoolers because they had
>It seems a little
>awkward to seek out the homeschool crowd when my daughter isn't even
>2yo. I need to be creative.
younger sibs my dd's age and that way she was establishing friends, a social
network and identity with other homeschoolers and when she was 5 didn't feel
abandoned by kids going off to kindergarten. In fact her 5 birthday party
we had over 20 kids and only 2 were schooled kids (cousins).
Even if your 2yo is too young to participate in the 'nature class' or 'art
class' or other program being offered to local homeschoolers you will find
parents with the younger kids hanging around. I went to get an idea of what
'it looked like' how 'others were doing it.' I was always welcomed and
quickly established friendships with famiies with kids my dd's age while
also getting the benifit of being with these familes that had been
homeschooling for a while because they had the older sibilings. And my dd
had the benifit of being with older children.
>Any ideas on how to sniff out theYou can create an Attachment Parenting group. Put up a notice at local
>unschoolers in my local homeschool groups without labeling myself as a
>radical? And in the meantime, I'm so happy to have found this group. :)
library. But keep in mind that even AP parents don't all end up
homeschooling or even unschooling...so watch your expectations and be a
powerful example of what really respectful parenting is all about.
>Parentless friends who enjoy my free spirited children do exist. They are
>Perhaps I need to make some *new* childless friends too. My childless
>friends from pre-parenthood aren't too keen on hanging out with my
>spunky toddler!
not necessarily the same friends i had before i had kids. As your
interested and priorities change so will who you choose to be around. It
doesn't mean you can't remain friends with old friends - just don't expect
them to change and understand along with you and sometimes you may find you
don't want to impose them on your children <g>.
lisa heyman
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Georgette Teekel
This is a SUPER TERRIFIC group if your not an open christian,as myself and by all means don't piss Ren off.
Lisa Heyman <Lmanathome@...> wrote: >From: "quinnannalisesmom" <roteameise@...>
younger sibs my dd's age and that way she was establishing friends, a social
network and identity with other homeschoolers and when she was 5 didn't feel
abandoned by kids going off to kindergarten. In fact her 5 birthday party
we had over 20 kids and only 2 were schooled kids (cousins).
Even if your 2yo is too young to participate in the 'nature class' or 'art
class' or other program being offered to local homeschoolers you will find
parents with the younger kids hanging around. I went to get an idea of what
'it looked like' how 'others were doing it.' I was always welcomed and
quickly established friendships with famiies with kids my dd's age while
also getting the benifit of being with these familes that had been
homeschooling for a while because they had the older sibilings. And my dd
had the benifit of being with older children.
library. But keep in mind that even AP parents don't all end up
homeschooling or even unschooling...so watch your expectations and be a
powerful example of what really respectful parenting is all about.
not necessarily the same friends i had before i had kids. As your
interested and priorities change so will who you choose to be around. It
doesn't mean you can't remain friends with old friends - just don't expect
them to change and understand along with you and sometimes you may find you
don't want to impose them on your children <g>.
lisa heyman
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Lisa Heyman <Lmanathome@...> wrote: >From: "quinnannalisesmom" <roteameise@...>
>It seems a littleWhen my oldest dd was 2 i hung out with homeschoolers because they had
>awkward to seek out the homeschool crowd when my daughter isn't even
>2yo. I need to be creative.
younger sibs my dd's age and that way she was establishing friends, a social
network and identity with other homeschoolers and when she was 5 didn't feel
abandoned by kids going off to kindergarten. In fact her 5 birthday party
we had over 20 kids and only 2 were schooled kids (cousins).
Even if your 2yo is too young to participate in the 'nature class' or 'art
class' or other program being offered to local homeschoolers you will find
parents with the younger kids hanging around. I went to get an idea of what
'it looked like' how 'others were doing it.' I was always welcomed and
quickly established friendships with famiies with kids my dd's age while
also getting the benifit of being with these familes that had been
homeschooling for a while because they had the older sibilings. And my dd
had the benifit of being with older children.
>Any ideas on how to sniff out theYou can create an Attachment Parenting group. Put up a notice at local
>unschoolers in my local homeschool groups without labeling myself as a
>radical? And in the meantime, I'm so happy to have found this group. :)
library. But keep in mind that even AP parents don't all end up
homeschooling or even unschooling...so watch your expectations and be a
powerful example of what really respectful parenting is all about.
>Parentless friends who enjoy my free spirited children do exist. They are
>Perhaps I need to make some *new* childless friends too. My childless
>friends from pre-parenthood aren't too keen on hanging out with my
>spunky toddler!
not necessarily the same friends i had before i had kids. As your
interested and priorities change so will who you choose to be around. It
doesn't mean you can't remain friends with old friends - just don't expect
them to change and understand along with you and sometimes you may find you
don't want to impose them on your children <g>.
lisa heyman
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--- quinnannalisesmom <roteameise@...> wrote:
daughter was 2. Many groups have "park days" in the
summer time. That's a gathering in a local park - kids
play, parents hang out and chat. We started going for
those. Many school age kids have younger siblings. So
you won't be the only one with a small child.
I need to be creative. Any ideas on how to
folks you'll figure out how they treat their kids. It
doesn't matter whether they're unschoolers or not.
Some unschoolers can be very restrictive in
non-academic areas and some "school-at-homers" are
relaxed when the school is done.
Manisha
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> I hear you about making new *unschooler* friends.We did join our local homeschool group when our
> It seems a little
> awkward to seek out the homeschool crowd when my
> daughter isn't even
> 2yo.
daughter was 2. Many groups have "park days" in the
summer time. That's a gathering in a local park - kids
play, parents hang out and chat. We started going for
those. Many school age kids have younger siblings. So
you won't be the only one with a small child.
I need to be creative. Any ideas on how to
> sniff out theYou don't need to label anyone. As you hang out with
> unschoolers in my local homeschool groups without
> labeling myself as a
> radical? And in the meantime, I'm so happy to have
> found this group. :)
folks you'll figure out how they treat their kids. It
doesn't matter whether they're unschoolers or not.
Some unschoolers can be very restrictive in
non-academic areas and some "school-at-homers" are
relaxed when the school is done.
Manisha
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--- In [email protected], Georgette Teekel
<beautifulsassyprincess@...> wrote:
<beautifulsassyprincess@...> wrote:
>Colorado, as I stated in my intro. post.
> Where you live now ?
Kelly
This is a SUPER TERRIFIC group if your not an open christian,as myself and
by all means don't piss Ren off.
I'm wouldn't bet that you've pissed Ren off. It's clear that you did not
read the guidelines before you joined this list. It can be frustrating
getting into these long threads about an individuals right to unbridled
self-expression. Lists have guidelines for a reason. People come here for
help and guidance from the UNSCHOOLING point of view. In that sense, all are
welcome, whatever your religious affiliation or lack thereof. This list has
guidelines in order to keep it focused, productive, and growth-oriented,
IMO. That is my experience of it. When people go off in this unbridled way,
it takes time, effort, and energy to try and help the unbridled one see the
real purpose of this list and how it might actually benefit them to stay
within list guidelines. When it becomes clear that a person will continue to
insist on their "right" to speak as they wish, taking up people's precious
time and resources, then, personally, as an extremely appreciative member of
this list, I have no problem seeing that person blocked from posting. If I
want to find God, a god, goddesses, or anything else under the sun, I'm
pretty sure there's a list out there somewhere for just that thing. Please,
beautifulsassyprincess, go find a list that welcomes your need to preach.
Respectfully,
Kelly
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by all means don't piss Ren off.
I'm wouldn't bet that you've pissed Ren off. It's clear that you did not
read the guidelines before you joined this list. It can be frustrating
getting into these long threads about an individuals right to unbridled
self-expression. Lists have guidelines for a reason. People come here for
help and guidance from the UNSCHOOLING point of view. In that sense, all are
welcome, whatever your religious affiliation or lack thereof. This list has
guidelines in order to keep it focused, productive, and growth-oriented,
IMO. That is my experience of it. When people go off in this unbridled way,
it takes time, effort, and energy to try and help the unbridled one see the
real purpose of this list and how it might actually benefit them to stay
within list guidelines. When it becomes clear that a person will continue to
insist on their "right" to speak as they wish, taking up people's precious
time and resources, then, personally, as an extremely appreciative member of
this list, I have no problem seeing that person blocked from posting. If I
want to find God, a god, goddesses, or anything else under the sun, I'm
pretty sure there's a list out there somewhere for just that thing. Please,
beautifulsassyprincess, go find a list that welcomes your need to preach.
Respectfully,
Kelly
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quinnannalisesmom
Thanks Lisa & Manisha. I will keep a more open mind about the
homeschool groups. I have met some homeschooling families through La
Leche League now that I think about it. I think they're using
curriculum, but they are respectful to their children.
My local AP group has one unschooling family, but the children are
teens.
I know that I will make new friends. I think I'm just processing the
changes in my current friendships.
homeschool groups. I have met some homeschooling families through La
Leche League now that I think about it. I think they're using
curriculum, but they are respectful to their children.
My local AP group has one unschooling family, but the children are
teens.
I know that I will make new friends. I think I'm just processing the
changes in my current friendships.
Cameron Parham
"It seems awkward to seek out the hs crowd when my dd isn'y 2yo"
Actually, in our little town in Montana we welcome everyone so far, certainly people whose kids are 2, or one, or newborn. We have had an expectant Mom. When is too early? It's not possible to be too early to us!
Cameron
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Actually, in our little town in Montana we welcome everyone so far, certainly people whose kids are 2, or one, or newborn. We have had an expectant Mom. When is too early? It's not possible to be too early to us!
Cameron
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