"I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
zanyzingzap
I think this applies nicely to unschooling as well...
Lisa
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From: Scott Noelle [mailto:lists@...]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:17 AM
Subject: [Daily Groove] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
THE DAILY GROOVE ~ by Scott Noelle
www.enjoyparenting.com/dailygroove
:: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!" ::
When you reject authoritarian, coercive parenting in
favor of non-punitive, pleasure-oriented parenting,
critics and naysayers will warn you that your child
won't be able to cope in the "real" world.
The assumption is that "it's a jungle out there" and
we should gradually toughen up our kids and get them
used to suffering so they won't be shocked when they
venture out into the big, bad world.
It's like that famous experiment where they tossed a
healthy frog in boiling water and it leaped right out.
But if they put the frog in cool water and raised the
temperature gradually over several days, the frog
would be able to *adjust* and stay in the water.
The slow boil seems more humane, but that
"well-adjusted" frog eventually *died* from the heat!
Whereas the non-adjusted frog's intact sensitivity
protected it from being boiled.
Today, look for evidence that your child's sensitivity
is intact (e.g., negative reactions to unwanted
conditions) and be *grateful* for it! Tell yourself,
"My child will *never* get boiled!"
http://dailygroove.net/frog-boiler
Feel free to forward this message to your friends!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Noelle [mailto:lists@...]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:17 AM
Subject: [Daily Groove] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
THE DAILY GROOVE ~ by Scott Noelle
www.enjoyparenting.com/dailygroove
:: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!" ::
When you reject authoritarian, coercive parenting in
favor of non-punitive, pleasure-oriented parenting,
critics and naysayers will warn you that your child
won't be able to cope in the "real" world.
The assumption is that "it's a jungle out there" and
we should gradually toughen up our kids and get them
used to suffering so they won't be shocked when they
venture out into the big, bad world.
It's like that famous experiment where they tossed a
healthy frog in boiling water and it leaped right out.
But if they put the frog in cool water and raised the
temperature gradually over several days, the frog
would be able to *adjust* and stay in the water.
The slow boil seems more humane, but that
"well-adjusted" frog eventually *died* from the heat!
Whereas the non-adjusted frog's intact sensitivity
protected it from being boiled.
Today, look for evidence that your child's sensitivity
is intact (e.g., negative reactions to unwanted
conditions) and be *grateful* for it! Tell yourself,
"My child will *never* get boiled!"
http://dailygroove.net/frog-boiler
Feel free to forward this message to your friends!
Copyright (c) 2007 by Scott Noelle
--
"Inspiration & Coaching for Progressive Parents"
http://www.ScottNoelle.com
http://www.EnjoyParenting.com
1-360-344-3117, or toll-free in the US:
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Ren Allen
~~I think this applies nicely to unschooling as well...~~
That's probably because Scott Noelle IS an unschooling Dad.:)
He's speaking at the Life is Good Unschooling Conference that Mary
Gold is hosting up in the NW shortly! I think he's great.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
That's probably because Scott Noelle IS an unschooling Dad.:)
He's speaking at the Life is Good Unschooling Conference that Mary
Gold is hosting up in the NW shortly! I think he's great.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
Schuyler
In the interest of accuracy, frogs will get out of the water when it gets
too hot. http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/frogboil.asp
The original frog-boiling experiment is mentioned in a book from 1899, but I
can't find the text on-line (it is cited at Wikipedia, but the link doesn't
work).
I thought it was a nice analogy as well, so I looked it up.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
too hot. http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/frogboil.asp
The original frog-boiling experiment is mentioned in a book from 1899, but I
can't find the text on-line (it is cited at Wikipedia, but the link doesn't
work).
I thought it was a nice analogy as well, so I looked it up.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "zanyzingzap" <zanyzingzap@...>
To: "zanyzingzap" <zanyzingzap@...>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 6:23 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
>I think this applies nicely to unschooling as well...
>
> Lisa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Noelle [mailto:lists@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:17 AM
> Subject: [Daily Groove] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
>
> THE DAILY GROOVE ~ by Scott Noelle
> www.enjoyparenting.com/dailygroove
>
> :: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!" ::
>
> When you reject authoritarian, coercive parenting in
> favor of non-punitive, pleasure-oriented parenting,
> critics and naysayers will warn you that your child
> won't be able to cope in the "real" world.
>
> The assumption is that "it's a jungle out there" and
> we should gradually toughen up our kids and get them
> used to suffering so they won't be shocked when they
> venture out into the big, bad world.
>
> It's like that famous experiment where they tossed a
> healthy frog in boiling water and it leaped right out.
> But if they put the frog in cool water and raised the
> temperature gradually over several days, the frog
> would be able to *adjust* and stay in the water.
>
> The slow boil seems more humane, but that
> "well-adjusted" frog eventually *died* from the heat!
> Whereas the non-adjusted frog's intact sensitivity
> protected it from being boiled.
>
> Today, look for evidence that your child's sensitivity
> is intact (e.g., negative reactions to unwanted
> conditions) and be *grateful* for it! Tell yourself,
> "My child will *never* get boiled!"
>
> http://dailygroove.net/frog-boiler
>
> Feel free to forward this message to your friends!
>
> Copyright (c) 2007 by Scott Noelle
> --
> "Inspiration & Coaching for Progressive Parents"
> http://www.ScottNoelle.com
> http://www.EnjoyParenting.com
> 1-360-344-3117, or toll-free in the US:
> 1-877-ALL-4-JOY (1-877-255-4569)
>
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Cameron Parham
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to figure out how to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it would help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
----- Original Message ----
From: Ren Allen <starsuncloud@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:12:41 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
~~I think this applies nicely to unschooling as well...~~
That's probably because Scott Noelle IS an unschooling Dad.:)
He's speaking at the Life is Good Unschooling Conference that Mary
Gold is hosting up in the NW shortly! I think he's great.
Ren
learninginfreedom. com
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----- Original Message ----
From: Ren Allen <starsuncloud@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:12:41 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
~~I think this applies nicely to unschooling as well...~~
That's probably because Scott Noelle IS an unschooling Dad.:)
He's speaking at the Life is Good Unschooling Conference that Mary
Gold is hosting up in the NW shortly! I think he's great.
Ren
learninginfreedom. com
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Erica Iwamura
not Ren but wanted to giev you the link...
http://www.lifeisgoodconference.com/
Erica
http://www.lifeisgoodconference.com/
Erica
On 3/24/07, Cameron Parham <acsp2205@...> wrote:
>
> Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to figure
> out how to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer
> it would help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ren Allen <starsuncloud@... <starsuncloud%40comcast.net>>
> To: [email protected]<unschoolingbasics%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:12:41 PM
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
>
> ~~I think this applies nicely to unschooling as well...~~
>
> That's probably because Scott Noelle IS an unschooling Dad.:)
> He's speaking at the Life is Good Unschooling Conference that Mary
> Gold is hosting up in the NW shortly! I think he's great.
>
> Ren
> learninginfreedom. com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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zanyzingzap
Parables, fairy tales and many other "teaching" stories/ideas/analogies are
not always accurate or even real, but that doesn't mean they aren't useful
or poignant. It wasn't even presented as factual. It was just mentioned as a
famous experiment. Many people have at least heard the story and can relate
to it whether it actually happened or not.In the interest of accuracy.
Lisa
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingbasics/message/22470;_ylc=X3oDMTJz
NzA2Z21tBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEyNzg5NTEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MTk3MgRtc2dJ
ZAMyMjQ3MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTc0Nzg0MjY3> Re: "I'm Not A
Frog-Boiler!"
Posted by: "Schuyler"
<mailto:s.waynforth@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20%22I%27m%20Not%20A%20F
rog-Boiler%21%22> s.waynforth@...
<http://profiles.yahoo.com/schuyler_waynforth> schuyler_waynforth
Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:43 am (PST)
In the interest of accuracy, frogs will get out of the water when it gets
too hot. <http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/frogboil.asp>
http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/frogboil.asp
The original frog-boiling experiment is mentioned in a book from 1899, but I
can't find the text on-line (it is cited at Wikipedia, but the link doesn't
work).
I thought it was a nice analogy as well, so I looked it up.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
not always accurate or even real, but that doesn't mean they aren't useful
or poignant. It wasn't even presented as factual. It was just mentioned as a
famous experiment. Many people have at least heard the story and can relate
to it whether it actually happened or not.In the interest of accuracy.
Lisa
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingbasics/message/22470;_ylc=X3oDMTJz
NzA2Z21tBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEyNzg5NTEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MTk3MgRtc2dJ
ZAMyMjQ3MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTc0Nzg0MjY3> Re: "I'm Not A
Frog-Boiler!"
Posted by: "Schuyler"
<mailto:s.waynforth@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20%22I%27m%20Not%20A%20F
rog-Boiler%21%22> s.waynforth@...
<http://profiles.yahoo.com/schuyler_waynforth> schuyler_waynforth
Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:43 am (PST)
In the interest of accuracy, frogs will get out of the water when it gets
too hot. <http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/frogboil.asp>
http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/frogboil.asp
The original frog-boiling experiment is mentioned in a book from 1899, but I
can't find the text on-line (it is cited at Wikipedia, but the link doesn't
work).
I thought it was a nice analogy as well, so I looked it up.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
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From: acsp2205@...
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGoodConference.com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
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From: acsp2205@...
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGoodConference.com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
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Kelly Weyd
Hey, I missed this origninal post. Whoever sent it, I am from Montana. I live in SC now.
And hey Deer Lodge is throwing distance from where I grew up.
Kelly
kbcdlovejo@... wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@...
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGoodConference.com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
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And hey Deer Lodge is throwing distance from where I grew up.
Kelly
kbcdlovejo@... wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@...
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGoodConference.com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
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Cameron Parham
Life's funny (always)! We have lived in Havre almost 17 years, but lived in NC 20 years before that. So you left Montana and went to SC; I left NC and went to MT. So I would love to attend the conf in NC but $$ are a factor. Maybe it will happen but we'll have to wait and see. I am from Greenville, NC. It would be great to take my poor worried, retired-teacher parents to a conference.
----- Original Message ----
From: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Montana WAS Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
Hey, I missed this origninal post. Whoever sent it, I am from Montana. I live in SC now.
And hey Deer Lodge is throwing distance from where I grew up.
Kelly
kbcdlovejo@aol. com wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@yahoo. com
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGo odConference. com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL earnConference. org
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----- Original Message ----
From: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Montana WAS Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
Hey, I missed this origninal post. Whoever sent it, I am from Montana. I live in SC now.
And hey Deer Lodge is throwing distance from where I grew up.
Kelly
kbcdlovejo@aol. com wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@yahoo. com
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGo odConference. com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL earnConference. org
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Cameron Parham
We live in Havre, MT. Who's Deb Lewis? My phone number is 406(whole state of course)265-9399.
----- Original Message ----
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To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:00:02 AM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Montana WAS Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@yahoo. com
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGo odConference. com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL earnConference. org
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To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:00:02 AM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Montana WAS Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@yahoo. com
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGo odConference. com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL earnConference. org
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Georgette Teekel
Unrelated i know but MT is BEAUTIFUL,my MOM lives in WY.
Cameron Parham <acsp2205@...> wrote: Life's funny (always)! We have lived in Havre almost 17 years, but lived in NC 20 years before that. So you left Montana and went to SC; I left NC and went to MT. So I would love to attend the conf in NC but $$ are a factor. Maybe it will happen but we'll have to wait and see. I am from Greenville, NC. It would be great to take my poor worried, retired-teacher parents to a conference.
----- Original Message ----
From: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Montana WAS Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
Hey, I missed this origninal post. Whoever sent it, I am from Montana. I live in SC now.
And hey Deer Lodge is throwing distance from where I grew up.
Kelly
kbcdlovejo@aol. com wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@yahoo. com
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGo odConference. com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL earnConference. org
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Cameron Parham <acsp2205@...> wrote: Life's funny (always)! We have lived in Havre almost 17 years, but lived in NC 20 years before that. So you left Montana and went to SC; I left NC and went to MT. So I would love to attend the conf in NC but $$ are a factor. Maybe it will happen but we'll have to wait and see. I am from Greenville, NC. It would be great to take my poor worried, retired-teacher parents to a conference.
----- Original Message ----
From: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Montana WAS Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
Hey, I missed this origninal post. Whoever sent it, I am from Montana. I live in SC now.
And hey Deer Lodge is throwing distance from where I grew up.
Kelly
kbcdlovejo@aol. com wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@yahoo. com
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGo odConference. com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL earnConference. org
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Kelly Weyd
I grew up in Anaconda, but I was born in Shelby. I actually just moved to SC from NJ, where I was for 12 years. My parents still live in Anaconda, and I have various family members spread around Montana. I have to ask......What is Unschooling like in Montana? I was recently having a conversation with an old friend who still lives in Anaconda, and I was telling her all about homeschooling/unschooling my girls. She was telling me how there are only a few homeschoolers in her area and they are considered freaks. She said it's just not a homeschooling friendly area at all. And having grown up in Anaconda I think the word "Unschooling" would be a really hard concept for folks there to grasp.......they are not exactly known for "thinking outside the box" there. I still can't get my Uncle to believe someone's property taxes in NJ would be 12 grand a year, which is what my SIL pays on her house, and she is getting off lucky compared to some in NJ.......but that's a whole
other story. Although my father who is an Accentric Liberal Nut, totally supports the Unschooling thing. He is a totally free spirit himself.......so he gets it. Here (I'm assuming) because it's the bible belt is a place full of homeschoolers and opportunities for homeschoolers. But the longer I live here the more and more Unschoolers I meet and/or Relaxed Homeschoolers. So I'm sure as you found out this area is more homeschooling friendly. People here don't look at me weird at all when I say we are homeschoolers. I was just curious what it was like there.
Kelly
Cameron Parham <acsp2205@...> wrote:
Life's funny (always)! We have lived in Havre almost 17 years, but lived in NC 20 years before that. So you left Montana and went to SC; I left NC and went to MT. So I would love to attend the conf in NC but $$ are a factor. Maybe it will happen but we'll have to wait and see. I am from Greenville, NC. It would be great to take my poor worried, retired-teacher parents to a conference.
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From: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Montana WAS Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
Hey, I missed this origninal post. Whoever sent it, I am from Montana. I live in SC now.
And hey Deer Lodge is throwing distance from where I grew up.
Kelly
kbcdlovejo@aol. com wrote:
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From: acsp2205@yahoo. com
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGo odConference. com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
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other story. Although my father who is an Accentric Liberal Nut, totally supports the Unschooling thing. He is a totally free spirit himself.......so he gets it. Here (I'm assuming) because it's the bible belt is a place full of homeschoolers and opportunities for homeschoolers. But the longer I live here the more and more Unschoolers I meet and/or Relaxed Homeschoolers. So I'm sure as you found out this area is more homeschooling friendly. People here don't look at me weird at all when I say we are homeschoolers. I was just curious what it was like there.
Kelly
Cameron Parham <acsp2205@...> wrote:
Life's funny (always)! We have lived in Havre almost 17 years, but lived in NC 20 years before that. So you left Montana and went to SC; I left NC and went to MT. So I would love to attend the conf in NC but $$ are a factor. Maybe it will happen but we'll have to wait and see. I am from Greenville, NC. It would be great to take my poor worried, retired-teacher parents to a conference.
----- Original Message ----
From: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Montana WAS Re: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
Hey, I missed this origninal post. Whoever sent it, I am from Montana. I live in SC now.
And hey Deer Lodge is throwing distance from where I grew up.
Kelly
kbcdlovejo@aol. com wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: acsp2205@yahoo. com
Ren...where is the conference in the NW?? I have been trying to
figure out how
to get us to the one in NC in Sept but maybe if there's one nearer it
would
help. We live in Montana. Thanks! Cameron
-=-=--=-=-
http://www.LIFEisGo odConference. com Corvallis, OR April 20-22, 2007
Montana? Where? The brilliant Deb Lewis is in Deer Lodge.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL earnConference. org
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-----Original Message-----
Life's funny (always)! We have lived in Havre almost 17 years, but
lived in NC
20 years before that. So you left Montana and went to SC; I left NC
and went to
MT. So I would love to attend the conf in NC but $$ are a factor.
Maybe it will
happen but we'll have to wait and see. I am from Greenville, NC. It
would be
great to take my poor worried, retired-teacher parents to a conference.
-=-=-=-
And grandparents' registrations are free!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
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Life's funny (always)! We have lived in Havre almost 17 years, but
lived in NC
20 years before that. So you left Montana and went to SC; I left NC
and went to
MT. So I would love to attend the conf in NC but $$ are a factor.
Maybe it will
happen but we'll have to wait and see. I am from Greenville, NC. It
would be
great to take my poor worried, retired-teacher parents to a conference.
-=-=-=-
And grandparents' registrations are free!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
________________________________________________________________________
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from AOL at AOL.com.
Shannon
My child will not get boiled! Thought many would love this! I laughed!
Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: dailygroove@... [mailto:dailygroove@...] On Behalf Of
Scott Noelle - The Daily Groove
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:52 AM
To: Shannon
Subject: [Daily Groove] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
THE DAILY GROOVE ~ by Scott Noelle
www.enjoyparenting.com/dailygroove
:: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!" ::
When you reject authoritarian, coercive parenting in
favor of non-punitive, pleasure-oriented parenting,
critics and naysayers will warn you that your child
won't be able to cope in the "real" world.
The assumption is that "it's a jungle out there" and
we should gradually toughen up our kids and get them
used to suffering so they won't be shocked when they
venture out into the big, bad world.
It's like that famous experiment where they tossed a
healthy frog in boiling water and it leaped right out.
But if they put the frog in cool water and raised the
temperature gradually over several days, the frog
would be able to *adjust* and stay in the water.
The slow boil seems more humane, but that
"well-adjusted" frog eventually *died* from the heat!
Whereas the non-adjusted frog's intact sensitivity
protected it from being boiled.
Today, look for evidence that your child's sensitivity
is intact (e.g., negative reactions to unwanted
conditions) and be *grateful* for it! Tell yourself,
"My child will *never* get boiled!"
http://dailygroove.net/frog-boiler
Feel free to forward this message to your friends!
(Please include this paragraph and everything above.)
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"Inspiration & Coaching for Progressive Parents"
http://www.ScottNoelle.com
http://www.EnjoyParenting.com
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Port Townsend, WA 98368
USA
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Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: dailygroove@... [mailto:dailygroove@...] On Behalf Of
Scott Noelle - The Daily Groove
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:52 AM
To: Shannon
Subject: [Daily Groove] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
THE DAILY GROOVE ~ by Scott Noelle
www.enjoyparenting.com/dailygroove
:: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!" ::
When you reject authoritarian, coercive parenting in
favor of non-punitive, pleasure-oriented parenting,
critics and naysayers will warn you that your child
won't be able to cope in the "real" world.
The assumption is that "it's a jungle out there" and
we should gradually toughen up our kids and get them
used to suffering so they won't be shocked when they
venture out into the big, bad world.
It's like that famous experiment where they tossed a
healthy frog in boiling water and it leaped right out.
But if they put the frog in cool water and raised the
temperature gradually over several days, the frog
would be able to *adjust* and stay in the water.
The slow boil seems more humane, but that
"well-adjusted" frog eventually *died* from the heat!
Whereas the non-adjusted frog's intact sensitivity
protected it from being boiled.
Today, look for evidence that your child's sensitivity
is intact (e.g., negative reactions to unwanted
conditions) and be *grateful* for it! Tell yourself,
"My child will *never* get boiled!"
http://dailygroove.net/frog-boiler
Feel free to forward this message to your friends!
(Please include this paragraph and everything above.)
Copyright (c) 2008 by Scott Noelle
"Inspiration & Coaching for Progressive Parents"
http://www.ScottNoelle.com
http://www.EnjoyParenting.com
1044 Water Street, Suite 342
Port Townsend, WA 98368
USA
To unsubscribe or change subscriber options visit:
http://www.aweber.com/z/r/?LIxMLOyctCxMrBysbCxMtEa0zGzsDMwcHA==
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Amanda Pillow
What a wonderful example!
Giggles- Amanda
www.funkymamaof4.blogspot.com
Giggles- Amanda
www.funkymamaof4.blogspot.com
--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Shannon <dragteine76@...> wrote:
From: Shannon <dragteine76@...>
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 9:31 AM
My child will not get boiled! Thought many would love this! I laughed!
Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: dailygroove@ aweber.com [mailto:dailygroove@ aweber.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Noelle - The Daily Groove
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:52 AM
To: Shannon
Subject: [Daily Groove] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler! "
THE DAILY GROOVE ~ by Scott Noelle
www.enjoyparenting. com/dailygroove
:: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler! " ::
When you reject authoritarian, coercive parenting in
favor of non-punitive, pleasure-oriented parenting,
critics and naysayers will warn you that your child
won't be able to cope in the "real" world.
The assumption is that "it's a jungle out there" and
we should gradually toughen up our kids and get them
used to suffering so they won't be shocked when they
venture out into the big, bad world.
It's like that famous experiment where they tossed a
healthy frog in boiling water and it leaped right out.
But if they put the frog in cool water and raised the
temperature gradually over several days, the frog
would be able to *adjust* and stay in the water.
The slow boil seems more humane, but that
"well-adjusted" frog eventually *died* from the heat!
Whereas the non-adjusted frog's intact sensitivity
protected it from being boiled.
Today, look for evidence that your child's sensitivity
is intact (e.g., negative reactions to unwanted
conditions) and be *grateful* for it! Tell yourself,
"My child will *never* get boiled!"
http://dailygroove. net/frog- boiler
Feel free to forward this message to your friends!
(Please include this paragraph and everything above.)
Copyright (c) 2008 by Scott Noelle
"Inspiration & Coaching for Progressive Parents"
http://www.ScottNoe lle.com
http://www.EnjoyPar enting.com
1044 Water Street, Suite 342
Port Townsend, WA 98368
USA
To unsubscribe or change subscriber options visit:
http://www.aweber. com/z/r/? LIxMLOyctCxMrBys bCxMtEa0zGzsDMwc HA==
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petra_norr
That is so good! i must remember that next time i get "a comment"
--- In [email protected], Amanda Pillow
<funkymamaof4@...> wrote:
--- In [email protected], Amanda Pillow
<funkymamaof4@...> wrote:
>laughed!
> What a wonderful example!
> Giggles- Amanda
>
> www.funkymamaof4.blogspot.com
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Shannon <dragteine76@...> wrote:
>
> From: Shannon <dragteine76@...>
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler!"
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 9:31 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My child will not get boiled! Thought many would love this! I
>Behalf Of
> Shannon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dailygroove@ aweber.com [mailto:dailygroove@ aweber.com] On
> Scott Noelle - The Daily Groove
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:52 AM
> To: Shannon
> Subject: [Daily Groove] "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler! "
>
> THE DAILY GROOVE ~ by Scott Noelle
>
> www.enjoyparenting. com/dailygroove
>
> :: "I'm Not A Frog-Boiler! " ::
>
> When you reject authoritarian, coercive parenting in
>
> favor of non-punitive, pleasure-oriented parenting,
>
> critics and naysayers will warn you that your child
>
> won't be able to cope in the "real" world.
>
> The assumption is that "it's a jungle out there" and
>
> we should gradually toughen up our kids and get them
>
> used to suffering so they won't be shocked when they
>
> venture out into the big, bad world.
>
> It's like that famous experiment where they tossed a
>
> healthy frog in boiling water and it leaped right out.
>
> But if they put the frog in cool water and raised the
>
> temperature gradually over several days, the frog
>
> would be able to *adjust* and stay in the water.
>
> The slow boil seems more humane, but that
>
> "well-adjusted" frog eventually *died* from the heat!
>
> Whereas the non-adjusted frog's intact sensitivity
>
> protected it from being boiled.
>
> Today, look for evidence that your child's sensitivity
>
> is intact (e.g., negative reactions to unwanted
>
> conditions) and be *grateful* for it! Tell yourself,
>
> "My child will *never* get boiled!"
>
> http://dailygroove. net/frog- boiler
>
> Feel free to forward this message to your friends!
>
> (Please include this paragraph and everything above.)
>
> Copyright (c) 2008 by Scott Noelle
>
> "Inspiration & Coaching for Progressive Parents"
>
> http://www.ScottNoe lle.com
>
> http://www.EnjoyPar enting.com
>
> 1044 Water Street, Suite 342
>
> Port Townsend, WA 98368
>
> USA
>
> To unsubscribe or change subscriber options visit:
>
> http://www.aweber. com/z/r/? LIxMLOyctCxMrBys bCxMtEa0zGzsDMwc HA==
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