non-violent PC games
Lori
I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can play on his
PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like to see
him get away from the violence or at least not play it every day. It is
affecting him in a negative way.
Lori, Ron, Konur, and Mali
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PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like to see
him get away from the violence or at least not play it every day. It is
affecting him in a negative way.
Lori, Ron, Konur, and Mali
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From: ifishqueen@...
I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can
play on his
PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like
to see
him get away from the violence or at least not play it every day. It is
affecting him in a negative way.
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It may not be the violence that's effecting him negatively---it's
probably just the level of difficulty. I can get pretty crabby when
what *I* am working on isn't going well.
But as for suggestions: ZOOMBINI'S!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
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From: ifishqueen@...
I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can
play on his
PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like
to see
him get away from the violence or at least not play it every day. It is
affecting him in a negative way.
-=-=-=-=-=-
It may not be the violence that's effecting him negatively---it's
probably just the level of difficulty. I can get pretty crabby when
what *I* am working on isn't going well.
But as for suggestions: ZOOMBINI'S!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
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Lori
Thank-you all!
Yes, he does get crabby with how hard it is, but that's actually helping him
work through his frustrations when things get hard. He is getting good at
stopping, taking a minute, then going back and trying again. When he is
trying something hard IRL, I ask him what Yoda would do in the game and he
keeps trying. I don't want them simpler I would like them without
shooting/blasting/chopping up people. When he plays with us he says things
like, "I am going to chop your head off" which is something they do with
their light sabers in the game. We are letting him know that is not okay to
play like that, but I think having him play other things with his dad will
help, also. I know he is only 5 and doesn't mean that he would hurt someone,
but it makes me very uncomfortable.
Am I just over reacting like my husband says I am? Am I trying to shield him
too much?
Lori, Ron, Konur, and Mali
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And Lori's business blog at
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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] non-violent PC games
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From: ifishqueen@comcast. <mailto:ifishqueen%40comcast.net> net
I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can
play on his
PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like
to see
him get away from the violence or at least not play it every day. It is
affecting him in a negative way.
-=-=-=-=-=-
It may not be the violence that's effecting him negatively---it's
probably just the level of difficulty. I can get pretty crabby when
what *I* am working on isn't going well.
But as for suggestions: ZOOMBINI'S!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL <http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org>
earnConference.org
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Yes, he does get crabby with how hard it is, but that's actually helping him
work through his frustrations when things get hard. He is getting good at
stopping, taking a minute, then going back and trying again. When he is
trying something hard IRL, I ask him what Yoda would do in the game and he
keeps trying. I don't want them simpler I would like them without
shooting/blasting/chopping up people. When he plays with us he says things
like, "I am going to chop your head off" which is something they do with
their light sabers in the game. We are letting him know that is not okay to
play like that, but I think having him play other things with his dad will
help, also. I know he is only 5 and doesn't mean that he would hurt someone,
but it makes me very uncomfortable.
Am I just over reacting like my husband says I am? Am I trying to shield him
too much?
Lori, Ron, Konur, and Mali
Visit Lori's business website at
<http://LorisNursingNecklaces.com/> http://LorisNursingNecklaces.com/
And Lori's business blog at
http://lorisnursingnecklaces.blogspot.com/
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] non-violent PC games
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From: ifishqueen@comcast. <mailto:ifishqueen%40comcast.net> net
I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can
play on his
PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like
to see
him get away from the violence or at least not play it every day. It is
affecting him in a negative way.
-=-=-=-=-=-
It may not be the violence that's effecting him negatively---it's
probably just the level of difficulty. I can get pretty crabby when
what *I* am working on isn't going well.
But as for suggestions: ZOOMBINI'S!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandL <http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org>
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From: ifishqueen@...
I don't want them simpler I would like them without
shooting/blasting/chopping up people.
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Well, Zoombini's is NOT simpler---it's calculus and algebra and logic
and sequencing. No words---even pre-readers love it.
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When he plays with us he says things
like, "I am going to chop your head off" which is something they do with
their light sabers in the game. We are letting him know that is not
okay to
play like that,
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Yeah---but do you think he'd actually cut your head off? <g>
I think *HE* knows it's not OK to play like that for *real*---I think
he knows more about play than *you*! <BWG>
The DS game, NintenDogs is a hard one for me to get by. In my HEAD, I
know they're just pixels---they're not REAL dogs. But for some reason
(I guess just by being an immigrant in this techno-world <g>), I have a
hard time when the dogs get fleas or need to go for a walk.
One of Duncan's friends decided to starve one of his NintenDogs to
death---to see how far it would allow him to take it. The dog was skin
and bones (well, pixelly!<G>), and would crrraawwwllll along the floor
whining and begging as he fed the other dogs. My heart was breaking. It
was HORRIBLE! But, as I learned, "It's a GAME. Mom. They're not REAL!"
I know, I know, but I'm not *OF* this generation!
I know this boy would *never* treat his own dogs that way. It was a
game, and he wanted to push the game as far as it would allow.
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but I think having him play other things with his dad will help, also.
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Sure: the more, the merrier. More games? Cool! <g> Just don't be too
disappointed if they aren't played as often as the other ones!
-=-=-=-
I know he is only 5 and doesn't mean that he would hurt someone,
but it makes me very uncomfortable.
-=-=-=-=-
I know. Me too. But I'm getting over it. I'd rather watch Harry Potter
toss garden pixies over the wall than see the Godfather shoot-em-ups.
But that's what Duncan likes---and he's a VERY gentle child IRL.
-=-=-=-=-
Am I just over reacting like my husband says I am? Am I trying to
shield him
too much?
-=-=-=-=-=
Yes. Yes. <g>
But get some more games. Maybe ones *you'd* be willing to play with
him. He might forgo the violence to hang with you a bit. <g>
~Kelly
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From: ifishqueen@...
I don't want them simpler I would like them without
shooting/blasting/chopping up people.
-=-=-=-
Well, Zoombini's is NOT simpler---it's calculus and algebra and logic
and sequencing. No words---even pre-readers love it.
-=-=-=-=-
When he plays with us he says things
like, "I am going to chop your head off" which is something they do with
their light sabers in the game. We are letting him know that is not
okay to
play like that,
-=-=-=-=-
Yeah---but do you think he'd actually cut your head off? <g>
I think *HE* knows it's not OK to play like that for *real*---I think
he knows more about play than *you*! <BWG>
The DS game, NintenDogs is a hard one for me to get by. In my HEAD, I
know they're just pixels---they're not REAL dogs. But for some reason
(I guess just by being an immigrant in this techno-world <g>), I have a
hard time when the dogs get fleas or need to go for a walk.
One of Duncan's friends decided to starve one of his NintenDogs to
death---to see how far it would allow him to take it. The dog was skin
and bones (well, pixelly!<G>), and would crrraawwwllll along the floor
whining and begging as he fed the other dogs. My heart was breaking. It
was HORRIBLE! But, as I learned, "It's a GAME. Mom. They're not REAL!"
I know, I know, but I'm not *OF* this generation!
I know this boy would *never* treat his own dogs that way. It was a
game, and he wanted to push the game as far as it would allow.
-=-=-=-=-=-
but I think having him play other things with his dad will help, also.
-=-=-=
Sure: the more, the merrier. More games? Cool! <g> Just don't be too
disappointed if they aren't played as often as the other ones!
-=-=-=-
I know he is only 5 and doesn't mean that he would hurt someone,
but it makes me very uncomfortable.
-=-=-=-=-
I know. Me too. But I'm getting over it. I'd rather watch Harry Potter
toss garden pixies over the wall than see the Godfather shoot-em-ups.
But that's what Duncan likes---and he's a VERY gentle child IRL.
-=-=-=-=-
Am I just over reacting like my husband says I am? Am I trying to
shield him
too much?
-=-=-=-=-=
Yes. Yes. <g>
But get some more games. Maybe ones *you'd* be willing to play with
him. He might forgo the violence to hang with you a bit. <g>
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
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Schuyler
Simon and Linnaea really loved and still love Spy Fox. I think you have to
find them through ebay now, but they are really fun and funny. For no actual
violence, but lots of psychotic references to violence, Sam and Max are
great. http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmax has demos that you can play.
Simon had to sit on my lap while he played with my help when he was 4 or 5.
But the ones they got recently they flew through and laughed many, many
times.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
find them through ebay now, but they are really fun and funny. For no actual
violence, but lots of psychotic references to violence, Sam and Max are
great. http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmax has demos that you can play.
Simon had to sit on my lap while he played with my help when he was 4 or 5.
But the ones they got recently they flew through and laughed many, many
times.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
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From: "Lori" <ifishqueen@...>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:16 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] non-violent PC games
>I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can play on
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> PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like to
> see
> him get away from the violence or at least not play it every day. It is
> affecting him in a negative way.
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Schuyler
Two additions, one is runescape which is a brilliantly violent free rpg with
cool side quests like cooking and metalurgy and mining which is at
www.runescape.com I think.
Second is to suggest reading Deb Lewis' brilliant response to someone saying
that television causes violence, its here:
http://www.sandradodd.com/t/violence.html .
Simon and Linnaea, who are sweet and wonderful people, can murder us in the
most innovative and violent ways when we strap our swords on and go up the
road to a set of ruins dating at least to the 1100's. Violent play is very
different from violent real. Saying I'm going to chop off your head is
nothing like the real thing. Really.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
cool side quests like cooking and metalurgy and mining which is at
www.runescape.com I think.
Second is to suggest reading Deb Lewis' brilliant response to someone saying
that television causes violence, its here:
http://www.sandradodd.com/t/violence.html .
Simon and Linnaea, who are sweet and wonderful people, can murder us in the
most innovative and violent ways when we strap our swords on and go up the
road to a set of ruins dating at least to the 1100's. Violent play is very
different from violent real. Saying I'm going to chop off your head is
nothing like the real thing. Really.
Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com
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From: "Schuyler" <s.waynforth@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] non-violent PC games
> Simon and Linnaea really loved and still love Spy Fox. I think you have to
> find them through ebay now, but they are really fun and funny. For no
> actual
> violence, but lots of psychotic references to violence, Sam and Max are
> great. http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmax has demos that you can play.
> Simon had to sit on my lap while he played with my help when he was 4 or
> 5.
> But the ones they got recently they flew through and laughed many, many
> times.
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> Schuyler
> www.waynforth.blogspot.com
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>>I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can play on
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>> PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like to
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Manisha Kher
My kids enjoyed putt-putt games. Also Spy Fox and
Pajama Sam. They're all problem-solving type of games.
I agree with Kelly. I doubt the violence is affecting
him in a negative way. It is fantasy and kids know it
is fantasy.
I read a book called "Killing Monsters" by Gerard
Jones who argues that the fantasy is good for kids. He
has studied all the studies about violent media and
kids and there's little to no co-relation between the
play and kids' behaviours. He also talked a lot with
real kids about why they enjoyed those games. The book
is kind of repetative and not worth buying in my
opinion. But it definitely helped me be more
comfortable with all the violent shows that my kids
like to watch. You may be able to borrow it from your
library. Here's an article by the same author that you
can read online.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2000/06/violent_media.html
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Pajama Sam. They're all problem-solving type of games.
I agree with Kelly. I doubt the violence is affecting
him in a negative way. It is fantasy and kids know it
is fantasy.
I read a book called "Killing Monsters" by Gerard
Jones who argues that the fantasy is good for kids. He
has studied all the studies about violent media and
kids and there's little to no co-relation between the
play and kids' behaviours. He also talked a lot with
real kids about why they enjoyed those games. The book
is kind of repetative and not worth buying in my
opinion. But it definitely helped me be more
comfortable with all the violent shows that my kids
like to watch. You may be able to borrow it from your
library. Here's an article by the same author that you
can read online.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2000/06/violent_media.html
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From: s.waynforth@...
Second is to suggest reading Deb Lewis' brilliant response to someone
saying
that television causes violence, its here:
http://www.sandradodd.com/t/violence.html
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I brought it here 'cause too many people won't go look. <g>
**********************************************************
Great Britain passed the Juvenile Offences Act of 1847 which said young
people shouldn't go to the same prison as adults. They did it because
of public concern over the huge numbers of young kids going to jail
(not just on murder charges) with adult criminals. Some figures show
the crime rate in England jumped from 5,000 crimes a year around 1800
to 20,000 a year sometime in the 1830s. No one can blame tv for that
one.
Fourteen year old Jesse Pomeroy was arrested in 1874 for the murder of
a four-year-old. He was released and immediately killed a ten year old
girl and then another four year old. No tv.
In 1924 nineteen year olds Richard Loeb and Nathan Leopold murdered
Bobby Franks just to see what it was like. They were from well off
families, nice neighborhoods. Never saw tv.
In Bath, Michigan in May, 1927 Andrew Kehoe who was fifty (five?- don't
remember) committed the worst case of school violence in American
history. First he killed his wife, locked his animals in the barn and
blew them up, blew up the school where he was a handyman and blew up
his truck full of shrapnel. More explosives were set to go off to kill
rescue workers but were found by the police. In all, thirty eight
children were killed and seven teachers. Sixty some others were
injured. Mr. Kehoe never saw a tv set.
Does TV create violence, really? Maybe guns create violence. Knives.
Baseball bats. Hammers. Axes, shovels, saws? Rope? Dynamite? Sharp
sticks, rocks? Maybe it's language causes violence because most killers
spoke. Maybe it's books. Clothing? Day time night time wind rain snow
trees birds frogs.
History is full of killers, some really damn weird ones who never saw
TV. The Borgias come to mind easily, and so maybe religion or
Pope-ness, Pope hood? is the cause of crime.
For lots of kids, even the bad guys on TV are nicer than the real life
crazy people they live and go to school with.
Deb L, TV loving, movie watching, book reading, true crime fan
who never once shot or stabbed or poisoned anyone.
Yet.
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~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
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From: s.waynforth@...
Second is to suggest reading Deb Lewis' brilliant response to someone
saying
that television causes violence, its here:
http://www.sandradodd.com/t/violence.html
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
I brought it here 'cause too many people won't go look. <g>
**********************************************************
Great Britain passed the Juvenile Offences Act of 1847 which said young
people shouldn't go to the same prison as adults. They did it because
of public concern over the huge numbers of young kids going to jail
(not just on murder charges) with adult criminals. Some figures show
the crime rate in England jumped from 5,000 crimes a year around 1800
to 20,000 a year sometime in the 1830s. No one can blame tv for that
one.
Fourteen year old Jesse Pomeroy was arrested in 1874 for the murder of
a four-year-old. He was released and immediately killed a ten year old
girl and then another four year old. No tv.
In 1924 nineteen year olds Richard Loeb and Nathan Leopold murdered
Bobby Franks just to see what it was like. They were from well off
families, nice neighborhoods. Never saw tv.
In Bath, Michigan in May, 1927 Andrew Kehoe who was fifty (five?- don't
remember) committed the worst case of school violence in American
history. First he killed his wife, locked his animals in the barn and
blew them up, blew up the school where he was a handyman and blew up
his truck full of shrapnel. More explosives were set to go off to kill
rescue workers but were found by the police. In all, thirty eight
children were killed and seven teachers. Sixty some others were
injured. Mr. Kehoe never saw a tv set.
Does TV create violence, really? Maybe guns create violence. Knives.
Baseball bats. Hammers. Axes, shovels, saws? Rope? Dynamite? Sharp
sticks, rocks? Maybe it's language causes violence because most killers
spoke. Maybe it's books. Clothing? Day time night time wind rain snow
trees birds frogs.
History is full of killers, some really damn weird ones who never saw
TV. The Borgias come to mind easily, and so maybe religion or
Pope-ness, Pope hood? is the cause of crime.
For lots of kids, even the bad guys on TV are nicer than the real life
crazy people they live and go to school with.
Deb L, TV loving, movie watching, book reading, true crime fan
who never once shot or stabbed or poisoned anyone.
Yet.
********************************************************************
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
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Joyce Fetteroll
On Feb 16, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Lori wrote:
Kids have been pretending violence since the beginning of time. You
can't stop him from having the feelings and wanting to *play* them
out. But you can make him feel guilty about having normal feelings.
You can make him hide his pretend play.
*He* knows the difference between an image striking an image on the
screen and a real person striking a real person. He's probably
wondering why you have a problem with telling the difference between
the two.
There's some more to read at:
http://joyfullyrejoycing.com/influencing%20kid%20behavior/tv%20and%
20video%20games/grandtheftauto.html
Joyce
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> Am I just over reacting like my husband says I am? Am I trying toYes.
> shield him
> too much?
Kids have been pretending violence since the beginning of time. You
can't stop him from having the feelings and wanting to *play* them
out. But you can make him feel guilty about having normal feelings.
You can make him hide his pretend play.
*He* knows the difference between an image striking an image on the
screen and a real person striking a real person. He's probably
wondering why you have a problem with telling the difference between
the two.
There's some more to read at:
http://joyfullyrejoycing.com/influencing%20kid%20behavior/tv%20and%
20video%20games/grandtheftauto.html
Joyce
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Deb
--- In [email protected], Joyce Fetteroll
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been playing Lego Star Wars (I and II), 007 games (rated T but no
gory bloodshed), and other such things since he was 5 and we got a
PS2. When he was a toddler, he chewed his toast into a 'pewer'
(listen closely to the sci-fi laser weapons). Most of his pretend
play involves some sort of battle - Bionicles, toilet paper tubes,
you name it, we battle with it.
Last week DS and I were watching FutureWeapons (cool stuff there)
and during a commercial break, where there were several ads for
various branches of the military, I asked DS (who has a former
Marine corporal and a former Air Force captain for grandpas), if
he's ever thought he might consider being in the military. He paused
and said "I like pretend battles but I don't want to be in the
middle of a real one"
Compared to his schooled, TV and videogame limited agemates/friends,
he is the least violent of them all. Seems to me (from my admittedly
biased viewpoint) that the lack of self-determination of those
schooled kids is more a factor in violent behaviors than whether or
not they watch TV or play violent videogames.
--Deb
<fetteroll@...> wrote:
>Real life anecdote from our house recently: my 8 1/2 yr old DS has
>
> *He* knows the difference between an image striking an image on
>the
> screen and a real person striking a real person. He's probably
> wondering why you have a problem with telling the difference
>between
> the two.
been playing Lego Star Wars (I and II), 007 games (rated T but no
gory bloodshed), and other such things since he was 5 and we got a
PS2. When he was a toddler, he chewed his toast into a 'pewer'
(listen closely to the sci-fi laser weapons). Most of his pretend
play involves some sort of battle - Bionicles, toilet paper tubes,
you name it, we battle with it.
Last week DS and I were watching FutureWeapons (cool stuff there)
and during a commercial break, where there were several ads for
various branches of the military, I asked DS (who has a former
Marine corporal and a former Air Force captain for grandpas), if
he's ever thought he might consider being in the military. He paused
and said "I like pretend battles but I don't want to be in the
middle of a real one"
Compared to his schooled, TV and videogame limited agemates/friends,
he is the least violent of them all. Seems to me (from my admittedly
biased viewpoint) that the lack of self-determination of those
schooled kids is more a factor in violent behaviors than whether or
not they watch TV or play violent videogames.
--Deb
Katharine Wise
Lori, when you say the violence is affecting him in a negative way, do you mean that he's actually *being* more violent when he's frustrated or do you mean that he's playing more violently?
I noticed when my boys were first introduced to Dungeons and Dragons that they (especially the younger ones) were fascinated with the weaponry and fighting. As they've gotten more and more into the game and their knowledge has become more sophisticated that has diminished. I also remember that after 9-11 my then 5yo did a lot of playing that planes were crashing into buildings. Dh was *not* happy with me for telling ds about the crashes! (He never actually saw any of the real photos -- even I've never seen the live footage.) I think that when they are first exposed to something like this they have a need to play it out a lot. It's their way of making sense of it, of understanding and coping with life. It's hard for us when it's violence they're playing -- we don't have any trouble with their playing at nurturing a doll or flying and airplane -- but I really believe they're just processing something new in their environment.
If he's actually treating anyone violently, that's a diffent issue though.
Hope that helps.
Katharine
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I noticed when my boys were first introduced to Dungeons and Dragons that they (especially the younger ones) were fascinated with the weaponry and fighting. As they've gotten more and more into the game and their knowledge has become more sophisticated that has diminished. I also remember that after 9-11 my then 5yo did a lot of playing that planes were crashing into buildings. Dh was *not* happy with me for telling ds about the crashes! (He never actually saw any of the real photos -- even I've never seen the live footage.) I think that when they are first exposed to something like this they have a need to play it out a lot. It's their way of making sense of it, of understanding and coping with life. It's hard for us when it's violence they're playing -- we don't have any trouble with their playing at nurturing a doll or flying and airplane -- but I really believe they're just processing something new in their environment.
If he's actually treating anyone violently, that's a diffent issue though.
Hope that helps.
Katharine
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Katharine Wise
Lori,
Just saw your second post. Have you read Larry Cohen's Playful Parenting? He addresses this issue at length. There was also a good article on gun play in Mothering magazine, maybe the Nov/Dec issue.
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Webkins, which requires the purchase of a stuffed animal that comes
with a serial number/code to enter into the game.
Players than care for their pet and play games to purchase things for
their pet (ie, food, exercise) to create health and happiness.
Wendy
with a serial number/code to enter into the game.
Players than care for their pet and play games to purchase things for
their pet (ie, food, exercise) to create health and happiness.
Wendy
On Feb 16, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Lori wrote:
> Thank-you all!
>
> Yes, he does get crabby with how hard it is, but that's actually
> helping him
> work through his frustrations when things get hard. He is getting
> good at
> stopping, taking a minute, then going back and trying again. When
> he is
> trying something hard IRL, I ask him what Yoda would do in the game
> and he
> keeps trying. I don't want them simpler I would like them without
> shooting/blasting/chopping up people. When he plays with us he says
> things
> like, "I am going to chop your head off" which is something they do
> with
> their light sabers in the game. We are letting him know that is not
> okay to
> play like that, but I think having him play other things with his
> dad will
> help, also. I know he is only 5 and doesn't mean that he would hurt
> someone,
> but it makes me very uncomfortable.
>
> Am I just over reacting like my husband says I am? Am I trying to
> shield him
> too much?
>
> Lori, Ron, Konur, and Mali
>
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>
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>
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> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] non-violent PC games
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ifishqueen@comcast. <mailto:ifishqueen%40comcast.net> net
>
> I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can
> play on his
> PC. He likes to play Leggo Star Wars 2 with his dad, but I would like
> to see
> him get away from the violence or at least not play it every day.
> It is
> affecting him in a negative way.
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-
>
> It may not be the violence that's effecting him negatively---it's
> probably just the level of difficulty. I can get pretty crabby when
> what *I* am working on isn't going well.
>
> But as for suggestions: ZOOMBINI'S!
>
> ~Kelly
>
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--- Lori <ifishqueen@...> wrote:
Pajama Sam, and that family. I just asked my daughter
and her answer to "what did you like to play when you
were little?" was "the Blaster games" math Blaster,
reading Blaster, etc.. My kids don't know the
difference between an educational game and a game
game, they just know they are fun.
ELISA
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> I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6At that age my kids loved Magic School Bus, Putt Putt,
> year old can play on his
> PC.
Pajama Sam, and that family. I just asked my daughter
and her answer to "what did you like to play when you
were little?" was "the Blaster games" math Blaster,
reading Blaster, etc.. My kids don't know the
difference between an educational game and a game
game, they just know they are fun.
ELISA
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Have you thought about puzzle games like Myst?? It's tricky but
you're the only person throughout the whole game (except for a very
small section of the game) - it's just thinking puzzles like how do
you get this mechanical thing to work without any directions.
My DS also loved Zoo Tycoon - something along that line might be good
as well. :)
Laurie
you're the only person throughout the whole game (except for a very
small section of the game) - it's just thinking puzzles like how do
you get this mechanical thing to work without any directions.
My DS also loved Zoo Tycoon - something along that line might be good
as well. :)
Laurie
--- In [email protected], "Lori" <ifishqueen@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking for a non-violent video game that my 6 year old can
play on his
> PC.
>
> Lori, Ron, Konur, and Mali