ethelwynnesquest

<<She made some remark about the fact that she's reading too much stuff
"thats below my grade level.">>

Hi. I just posted a chunk of books that I picked up around the house
and van that Sorscha (8) has been reading. The reading levels range
the gambit from encyclopedias to preschool. If you want to check it
out it is the first post on my blog right now. Oh, and Sorscha
has 'collections' of books from a series. For example: Magic Tree
House, Secrets of Droon, and Warriors. She loves to read those over
and over. Her journey with reading is just about enjoying what she is
reading...not because it is a certain age level. Reading Levels do not
matter when your not in school. Also..I find it interesting that they
do not even post reading levels after 5th grade on books. Wonder why
if they are so important??? If you really want to twist it around I
guess someone could say to Sorscha that reading an encyclopedia is
above her age level and that's a bad thing. Whenever someone says
something that bugs me I try and twist it the other way. Most of the
time it helps me to realize that it is nothing I need to matter with.
~Crystal~
http://daikinicrossroads.blogspot.com/

Vickisue Gray

Thank you for your post! I've been wondering about how they mark grade levels in books as I can't find any for the books my son reads.
He's eight,too, and reads everything. I worry more about 'adult content' which also isn't marked. (We have serious readers in our house with a range of interests so I have to always pay attention to what books get left around. Grandma is 81 and forgetful.)


----- Original Message ----
From: ethelwynnesquest <willowsfortress@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:10:27 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Reading Levels

<<She made some remark about the fact that she's reading too much stuff
"thats below my grade level.">>

Hi. I just posted a chunk of books that I picked up around the house
and van that Sorscha (8) has been reading. The reading levels range
the gambit from encyclopedias to preschool. If you want to check it
out it is the first post on my blog right now. Oh, and Sorscha
has 'collections' of books from a series. For example: Magic Tree
House, Secrets of Droon, and Warriors. She loves to read those over
and over. Her journey with reading is just about enjoying what she is
reading...not because it is a certain age level. Reading Levels do not
matter when your not in school. Also..I find it interesting that they
do not even post reading levels after 5th grade on books. Wonder why
if they are so important??? If you really want to twist it around I
guess someone could say to Sorscha that reading an encyclopedia is
above her age level and that's a bad thing. Whenever someone says
something that bugs me I try and twist it the other way. Most of the
time it helps me to realize that it is nothing I need to matter with.
~Crystal~
http://daikinicross roads.blogspot. com/






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Deb

--- In [email protected], "ethelwynnesquest"
<willowsfortress@...> wrote:
>
> <<She made some remark about the fact that she's reading too much
>stuff
> "thats below my grade level.">>
Gee, what would she think about the last three books I read: Pippi
Longstocking, Heidi, and James and the Giant Peach. No, I wasn't
reading them aloud to DS. I read them because I wanted to - and I'll
be 46 in a couple weeks. In the last year, I've also read Feed,
Holes, The Giver, etc all of which are classed as "juvenile
fiction". For that matter, the Harry Potter series is all
consider "juvenile fiction" and I loved them.

My DS is 8 and reads whatever he wants from Captain Underpants to
Star Trek photo-novels (novelizations of the original series with
photos from the episodes) to adult level Star Wars novels (though we
often alternate between reading individually and reading aloud with
those so we can both read them at the same time). He has no idea
that those novels are "above his grade level" because he doesn't
have a grade level. They're just stuff he wants to read (and
sometimes he asks for help with them).

--Deb

[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: vickisue_gray@...


I worry more about 'adult content' which
also isn't marked. (We have serious readers in our house with a range
of
interests so I have to always pay attention to what books get left
around.
Grandma is 81 and forgetful.)


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How racy are Grandma's books? <g>

~Kelly
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Vickisue Gray

Boy, did I just feel my first real bite of anti-unschooling today. The elderly man I releaved when I came in to work today asked me how the homeschooling was going. I made the 'mistake' of saying that I have gone to unschooling as it fits us better. He asked what that means and I explained it to him. Talk about someone getting their knickers in a twist, wow. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET HIM INTO COLLEGE? HOW IS HE GOING TO PROGRESS TO EACH GRADE LEVEL? .... I'm sure you all have heard it before. I silenced him with, "Well there's really not much to teach him as he reads everything and his comprehension is extremely good.. He is already well above his stated grade, so what should I be worried about? Slowing him down by forcing someone else's idea of what and how to learn on him. That's what."


----- Original Message ----
From: Deb <soggyboysmom@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:57:31 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Reading Levels

--- In unschoolingbasics@ yahoogroups. com, "ethelwynnesquest"
<willowsfortress@ ...> wrote:
>
> <<She made some remark about the fact that she's reading too much
>stuff
> "thats below my grade level.">>
Gee, what would she think about the last three books I read: Pippi
Longstocking, Heidi, and James and the Giant Peach. No, I wasn't
reading them aloud to DS. I read them because I wanted to - and I'll
be 46 in a couple weeks. In the last year, I've also read Feed,
Holes, The Giver, etc all of which are classed as "juvenile
fiction". For that matter, the Harry Potter series is all
consider "juvenile fiction" and I loved them.

My DS is 8 and reads whatever he wants from Captain Underpants to
Star Trek photo-novels (novelizations of the original series with
photos from the episodes) to adult level Star Wars novels (though we
often alternate between reading individually and reading aloud with
those so we can both read them at the same time). He has no idea
that those novels are "above his grade level" because he doesn't
have a grade level. They're just stuff he wants to read (and
sometimes he asks for help with them).

--Deb






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Kelly Weyd

It's very hard for most of society to think outside the box. My Mother understands and supports unschooling. My husbands family on the other hand is totally anti-homeschooling of any kind. They think hubby and I have completely lost our minds. They don't even know about the "Unschooling". If I told them there is no doubt in my mind that they would call social services on me. Just last week my SIL was on the phone with my husband "screaming" at him over the homeschooling thing. He held his own.

Kelly

Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
Boy, did I just feel my first real bite of anti-unschooling today. The elderly man I releaved when I came in to work today asked me how the homeschooling was going. I made the 'mistake' of saying that I have gone to unschooling as it fits us better. He asked what that means and I explained it to him. Talk about someone getting their knickers in a twist, wow. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET HIM INTO COLLEGE? HOW IS HE GOING TO PROGRESS TO EACH GRADE LEVEL? .... I'm sure you all have heard it before. I silenced him with, "Well there's really not much to teach him as he reads everything and his comprehension is extremely good.. He is already well above his stated grade, so what should I be worried about? Slowing him down by forcing someone else's idea of what and how to learn on him. That's what."

----- Original Message ----
From: Deb <soggyboysmom@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:57:31 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Reading Levels

--- In unschoolingbasics@ yahoogroups. com, "ethelwynnesquest"
<willowsfortress@ ...> wrote:
>
> <<She made some remark about the fact that she's reading too much
>stuff
> "thats below my grade level.">>
Gee, what would she think about the last three books I read: Pippi
Longstocking, Heidi, and James and the Giant Peach. No, I wasn't
reading them aloud to DS. I read them because I wanted to - and I'll
be 46 in a couple weeks. In the last year, I've also read Feed,
Holes, The Giver, etc all of which are classed as "juvenile
fiction". For that matter, the Harry Potter series is all
consider "juvenile fiction" and I loved them.

My DS is 8 and reads whatever he wants from Captain Underpants to
Star Trek photo-novels (novelizations of the original series with
photos from the episodes) to adult level Star Wars novels (though we
often alternate between reading individually and reading aloud with
those so we can both read them at the same time). He has no idea
that those novels are "above his grade level" because he doesn't
have a grade level. They're just stuff he wants to read (and
sometimes he asks for help with them).

--Deb

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Vickisue Gray

Grandma is a MAJOR bookworm. She reads everything; murder mystery's, romance (yes, the racier, the better), science, aeronautical science, literally everything. She collects leather bound auto biographies and I've been amazed at just what some men will describe. (How to seduce a woman...) Then there's the teenagers who likes gore. I got to watch them, as they get a kick out of putting gross pics on the slide show on the computer when I'm at work. One reads Manga, and every extreme culture she can find; Hitler, Vampires, Lost Boys (from Utah?)...the list is long. We got her into Vonnegut and she loves him.

My son (8) picked out the Halo trilogy and dived right in before I could read them, but a friend said they stayed to the Xbox game so I could relax. That same day at the book store, he learned the difference between 'abridged and non-abridged' and insisted he never wanted another abridged book again! He picked out The Swiss Family Robinson unabridged, lol.




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From: vickisue_gray@ yahoo.com

I worry more about 'adult content' which
also isn't marked. (We have serious readers in our house with a range
of
interests so I have to always pay attention to what books get left
around.
Grandma is 81 and forgetful.)

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How racy are Grandma's books? <g>

~Kelly
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Vickisue Gray

Wow. Guess I just need to learn with whom to open up. The big party we had last Saturday night for the skydivers, had unschoolers there too, it turned out. They plan to come over again. My 8yo son gave tours of the property and pets. Everyone complimented me on how intelligent he was and figured it was BECAUSE we homeschool. I think I'll just not offer information in the future.


----- Original Message ----
From: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:14:59 PM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Reading Levels

It's very hard for most of society to think outside the box. My Mother understands and supports unschooling. My husbands family on the other hand is totally anti-homeschooling of any kind. They think hubby and I have completely lost our minds. They don't even know about the "Unschooling" . If I told them there is no doubt in my mind that they would call social services on me. Just last week my SIL was on the phone with my husband "screaming" at him over the homeschooling thing. He held his own.

Kelly

Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Boy, did I just feel my first real bite of anti-unschooling today. The elderly man I releaved when I came in to work today asked me how the homeschooling was going. I made the 'mistake' of saying that I have gone to unschooling as it fits us better. He asked what that means and I explained it to him. Talk about someone getting their knickers in a twist, wow. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET HIM INTO COLLEGE? HOW IS HE GOING TO PROGRESS TO EACH GRADE LEVEL? .... I'm sure you all have heard it before. I silenced him with, "Well there's really not much to teach him as he reads everything and his comprehension is extremely good.. He is already well above his stated grade, so what should I be worried about? Slowing him down by forcing someone else's idea of what and how to learn on him. That's what."

----- Original Message ----
From: Deb <soggyboysmom@ yahoo.com>
To: unschoolingbasics@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:57:31 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Reading Levels

--- In unschoolingbasics@ yahoogroups. com, "ethelwynnesquest"
<willowsfortress@ ...> wrote:
>
> <<She made some remark about the fact that she's reading too much
>stuff
> "thats below my grade level.">>
Gee, what would she think about the last three books I read: Pippi
Longstocking, Heidi, and James and the Giant Peach. No, I wasn't
reading them aloud to DS. I read them because I wanted to - and I'll
be 46 in a couple weeks. In the last year, I've also read Feed,
Holes, The Giver, etc all of which are classed as "juvenile
fiction". For that matter, the Harry Potter series is all
consider "juvenile fiction" and I loved them.

My DS is 8 and reads whatever he wants from Captain Underpants to
Star Trek photo-novels (novelizations of the original series with
photos from the episodes) to adult level Star Wars novels (though we
often alternate between reading individually and reading aloud with
those so we can both read them at the same time). He has no idea
that those novels are "above his grade level" because he doesn't
have a grade level. They're just stuff he wants to read (and
sometimes he asks for help with them).

--Deb

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Kelly Weyd

I don't know.........some are open to the information and other's look at you like you've lost your mind. Now luckily so far the only anti-homeschoolers in our life is my husband's family, but they are anti-everything so I've learned to expect it. I'm sure I will run across people like the gentlemen you encountered sooner or later. I'm still new to all of this.
kelly

Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
Wow. Guess I just need to learn with whom to open up. The big party we had last Saturday night for the skydivers, had unschoolers there too, it turned out. They plan to come over again. My 8yo son gave tours of the property and pets. Everyone complimented me on how intelligent he was and figured it was BECAUSE we homeschool. I think I'll just not offer information in the future.

----- Original Message ----
From: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:14:59 PM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Reading Levels

It's very hard for most of society to think outside the box. My Mother understands and supports unschooling. My husbands family on the other hand is totally anti-homeschooling of any kind. They think hubby and I have completely lost our minds. They don't even know about the "Unschooling" . If I told them there is no doubt in my mind that they would call social services on me. Just last week my SIL was on the phone with my husband "screaming" at him over the homeschooling thing. He held his own.

Kelly

Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Boy, did I just feel my first real bite of anti-unschooling today. The elderly man I releaved when I came in to work today asked me how the homeschooling was going. I made the 'mistake' of saying that I have gone to unschooling as it fits us better. He asked what that means and I explained it to him. Talk about someone getting their knickers in a twist, wow. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET HIM INTO COLLEGE? HOW IS HE GOING TO PROGRESS TO EACH GRADE LEVEL? .... I'm sure you all have heard it before. I silenced him with, "Well there's really not much to teach him as he reads everything and his comprehension is extremely good.. He is already well above his stated grade, so what should I be worried about? Slowing him down by forcing someone else's idea of what and how to learn on him. That's what."

----- Original Message ----
From: Deb <soggyboysmom@ yahoo.com>
To: unschoolingbasics@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:57:31 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Reading Levels

--- In unschoolingbasics@ yahoogroups. com, "ethelwynnesquest"
<willowsfortress@ ...> wrote:
>
> <<She made some remark about the fact that she's reading too much
>stuff
> "thats below my grade level.">>
Gee, what would she think about the last three books I read: Pippi
Longstocking, Heidi, and James and the Giant Peach. No, I wasn't
reading them aloud to DS. I read them because I wanted to - and I'll
be 46 in a couple weeks. In the last year, I've also read Feed,
Holes, The Giver, etc all of which are classed as "juvenile
fiction". For that matter, the Harry Potter series is all
consider "juvenile fiction" and I loved them.

My DS is 8 and reads whatever he wants from Captain Underpants to
Star Trek photo-novels (novelizations of the original series with
photos from the episodes) to adult level Star Wars novels (though we
often alternate between reading individually and reading aloud with
those so we can both read them at the same time). He has no idea
that those novels are "above his grade level" because he doesn't
have a grade level. They're just stuff he wants to read (and
sometimes he asks for help with them).

--Deb

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My family, and my hubby's family knows that we
homeschool, but only one of his cousins know that we
unschool. We don't mention unschooling, because there
would be too much conflict with it. Letting them know
that we homeschool is good enough for me.

---Vanessa

--- Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...> wrote:

> It's very hard for most of society to think outside
> the box. My Mother understands and supports
> unschooling. My husbands family on the other hand
> is totally anti-homeschooling of any kind. They
> think hubby and I have completely lost our minds.
> They don't even know about the "Unschooling". If I
> told them there is no doubt in my mind that they
> would call social services on me. Just last week my
> SIL was on the phone with my husband "screaming" at
> him over the homeschooling thing. He held his own.
>
> Kelly
>
> Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
> Boy, did I just feel my first real bite of
> anti-unschooling today. The elderly man I releaved
> when I came in to work today asked me how the
> homeschooling was going. I made the 'mistake' of
> saying that I have gone to unschooling as it fits us
> better. He asked what that means and I explained it
> to him. Talk about someone getting their knickers in
> a twist, wow. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET HIM INTO
> COLLEGE? HOW IS HE GOING TO PROGRESS TO EACH GRADE
> LEVEL? .... I'm sure you all have heard it before. I
> silenced him with, "Well there's really not much to
> teach him as he reads everything and his
> comprehension is extremely good.. He is already well
> above his stated grade, so what should I be worried
> about? Slowing him down by forcing someone else's
> idea of what and how to learn on him. That's what."
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Deb <soggyboysmom@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:57:31 PM
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Reading Levels
>
> --- In unschoolingbasics@ yahoogroups. com,
> "ethelwynnesquest"
> <willowsfortress@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > <<She made some remark about the fact that she's
> reading too much
> >stuff
> > "thats below my grade level.">>
> Gee, what would she think about the last three books
> I read: Pippi
> Longstocking, Heidi, and James and the Giant Peach.
> No, I wasn't
> reading them aloud to DS. I read them because I
> wanted to - and I'll
> be 46 in a couple weeks. In the last year, I've also
> read Feed,
> Holes, The Giver, etc all of which are classed as
> "juvenile
> fiction". For that matter, the Harry Potter series
> is all
> consider "juvenile fiction" and I loved them.
>
> My DS is 8 and reads whatever he wants from Captain
> Underpants to
> Star Trek photo-novels (novelizations of the
> original series with
> photos from the episodes) to adult level Star Wars
> novels (though we
> often alternate between reading individually and
> reading aloud with
> those so we can both read them at the same time). He
> has no idea
> that those novels are "above his grade level"
> because he doesn't
> have a grade level. They're just stuff he wants to
> read (and
> sometimes he asks for help with them).
>
> --Deb
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Good enough for me, too. Even though we have been at this for about a year and a half and n the last 6 months ave given up bedtimes, food controls, etc.....Nobody seems to get it in my family. I was pleasantly surprised recently when my sister (very traditional) asked my mother what we were doing differently now that "school has started again". My Mom said, "Nothing....they're just living their lives....." Yay, Mom! She gets it! ( a 75 year old former public school teacher!) I have often found that the older people understand a bit better and are perhaps less threatened by "unschooling". As for Grandma, for her the proof is in the pudding!
Peace,
Beth

My family, and my hubby's family knows that we
homeschool, but only one of his cousins know that we
unschool. We don't mention unschooling, because there
would be too much conflict with it. Letting them know
that we homeschool is good enough for me.

---Vanessa


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Most of our good friends can handle the unschooling thing, but yep, definately not Hubby's family. I feel like just letting certain people know we homeschool is good enough too, and I don't have to elaborate any more than that to certain people.
kelly

Schafer Vanessa <psychomom95@...> wrote:
My family, and my hubby's family knows that we
homeschool, but only one of his cousins know that we
unschool. We don't mention unschooling, because there
would be too much conflict with it. Letting them know
that we homeschool is good enough for me.

---Vanessa

--- Kelly Weyd <kellmar98@...> wrote:

> It's very hard for most of society to think outside
> the box. My Mother understands and supports
> unschooling. My husbands family on the other hand
> is totally anti-homeschooling of any kind. They
> think hubby and I have completely lost our minds.
> They don't even know about the "Unschooling". If I
> told them there is no doubt in my mind that they
> would call social services on me. Just last week my
> SIL was on the phone with my husband "screaming" at
> him over the homeschooling thing. He held his own.
>
> Kelly
>
> Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
> Boy, did I just feel my first real bite of
> anti-unschooling today. The elderly man I releaved
> when I came in to work today asked me how the
> homeschooling was going. I made the 'mistake' of
> saying that I have gone to unschooling as it fits us
> better. He asked what that means and I explained it
> to him. Talk about someone getting their knickers in
> a twist, wow. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET HIM INTO
> COLLEGE? HOW IS HE GOING TO PROGRESS TO EACH GRADE
> LEVEL? .... I'm sure you all have heard it before. I
> silenced him with, "Well there's really not much to
> teach him as he reads everything and his
> comprehension is extremely good.. He is already well
> above his stated grade, so what should I be worried
> about? Slowing him down by forcing someone else's
> idea of what and how to learn on him. That's what."
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Deb <soggyboysmom@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:57:31 PM
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Reading Levels
>
> --- In unschoolingbasics@ yahoogroups. com,
> "ethelwynnesquest"
> <willowsfortress@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > <<She made some remark about the fact that she's
> reading too much
> >stuff
> > "thats below my grade level.">>
> Gee, what would she think about the last three books
> I read: Pippi
> Longstocking, Heidi, and James and the Giant Peach.
> No, I wasn't
> reading them aloud to DS. I read them because I
> wanted to - and I'll
> be 46 in a couple weeks. In the last year, I've also
> read Feed,
> Holes, The Giver, etc all of which are classed as
> "juvenile
> fiction". For that matter, the Harry Potter series
> is all
> consider "juvenile fiction" and I loved them.
>
> My DS is 8 and reads whatever he wants from Captain
> Underpants to
> Star Trek photo-novels (novelizations of the
> original series with
> photos from the episodes) to adult level Star Wars
> novels (though we
> often alternate between reading individually and
> reading aloud with
> those so we can both read them at the same time). He
> has no idea
> that those novels are "above his grade level"
> because he doesn't
> have a grade level. They're just stuff he wants to
> read (and
> sometimes he asks for help with them).
>
> --Deb
>
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> removed]
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