Girl Scouts
ethelwynnesquest
Hi Beth. Sorscha chose to leave her troop two years ago and become a
Juliette Girl Scout (Individually Registered). She has all the
benefits of being a GS and can attend Service Unit and Council events.
However, she chooses the badges she wants to earn and the events she
wants to go to. It has been wonderful for her. Ya'll might want to
try that route. It is as easy as going down to the Council and
switching her.
~Crystal~
Oh and you can go to my blog and click on the Girl Scouts to the right
and get an idea how she does things being a Juliette.
http://daikinicrossroads.blogspot.com/
<<I want to honor my daughter's feelings about the troop, but also want
her to know that maybe the way it runs will never look like what we do
and can she (and I??) accept that? Thanks for reading......have a
great Friday night! Peace, Beth>>
Juliette Girl Scout (Individually Registered). She has all the
benefits of being a GS and can attend Service Unit and Council events.
However, she chooses the badges she wants to earn and the events she
wants to go to. It has been wonderful for her. Ya'll might want to
try that route. It is as easy as going down to the Council and
switching her.
~Crystal~
Oh and you can go to my blog and click on the Girl Scouts to the right
and get an idea how she does things being a Juliette.
http://daikinicrossroads.blogspot.com/
<<I want to honor my daughter's feelings about the troop, but also want
her to know that maybe the way it runs will never look like what we do
and can she (and I??) accept that? Thanks for reading......have a
great Friday night! Peace, Beth>>
Beth Fleming
Thank you, Crystal....I'll check it out....I didn't know it was a possibility! She has a friend up the street who is not interested in joining a troop but might like this idea better, too. Hmmmmm.
Peace,
Beth
ethelwynnesquest <willowsfortress@...> wrote:
Hi Beth. Sorscha chose to leave her troop two years ago and become a
Juliette Girl Scout (Individually Registered). She has all the
benefits of being a GS and can attend Service Unit and Council events.
However, she chooses the badges she wants to earn and the events she
wants to go to. It has been wonderful for her. Ya'll might want to
try that route. It is as easy as going down to the Council and
switching her.
~Crystal~
Oh and you can go to my blog and click on the Girl Scouts to the right
and get an idea how she does things being a Juliette.
http://daikinicrossroads.blogspot.com/
<<I want to honor my daughter's feelings about the troop, but also want
her to know that maybe the way it runs will never look like what we do
and can she (and I??) accept that? Thanks for reading......have a
great Friday night! Peace, Beth>>
Unschooling Mom to Frances (9), Will (7), Catherine (2), and Grace (6 months)
www.6uvus.blogspot.com
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Peace,
Beth
ethelwynnesquest <willowsfortress@...> wrote:
Hi Beth. Sorscha chose to leave her troop two years ago and become a
Juliette Girl Scout (Individually Registered). She has all the
benefits of being a GS and can attend Service Unit and Council events.
However, she chooses the badges she wants to earn and the events she
wants to go to. It has been wonderful for her. Ya'll might want to
try that route. It is as easy as going down to the Council and
switching her.
~Crystal~
Oh and you can go to my blog and click on the Girl Scouts to the right
and get an idea how she does things being a Juliette.
http://daikinicrossroads.blogspot.com/
<<I want to honor my daughter's feelings about the troop, but also want
her to know that maybe the way it runs will never look like what we do
and can she (and I??) accept that? Thanks for reading......have a
great Friday night! Peace, Beth>>
Unschooling Mom to Frances (9), Will (7), Catherine (2), and Grace (6 months)
www.6uvus.blogspot.com
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jessmiles07
My dd is going to be in Girl Scouts this year and I am officially the
leader.
So my question is, does anyone have an idea on how to make GS an
unschooly experience. We are doing it at the public school which I have
some reservations about, but for this year it will work. I am hoping to
have parent involvment but I have been told not to expect it because a
lot of parents won't make the time:(. Overall I want the girls to get
the experience they want and have fun.
So any ideas?? :)
leader.
So my question is, does anyone have an idea on how to make GS an
unschooly experience. We are doing it at the public school which I have
some reservations about, but for this year it will work. I am hoping to
have parent involvment but I have been told not to expect it because a
lot of parents won't make the time:(. Overall I want the girls to get
the experience they want and have fun.
So any ideas?? :)
Melissa Gray
My experience? For an unschooly scout group, it's better NOT to have
parental involvement. I'm a boy scout leader, and my girls are in a
great homeschooling troop, so we've lucked out in that. Our first
year, in Tigers, when parents were required to be involved, they did
too much. They pushed the boys too much, like an ego-thang, and it
was just ugly and uncomfortable for everyone except those parents who
were just too clueless to realize that THEY were doing the boys
crafts and projects.
What we've done is make sure that everyone has a say, and if a scout
does not feel like being involved, then they don't have to be. Or
they are more than welcome to come up with another idea for
fulfilling a requirement. Throughout scouts there are always choices
for how things are done, electives are always optional and
requirements are malleable. What age are you working with?
Melissa
Mom to Joshua, Breanna, Emily, Rachel, Samuel, Daniel and Avari
Wife to Zane
blog me at
http://startlinglives.blogspot.com/
http://startlinglives365.blogspot.com
parental involvement. I'm a boy scout leader, and my girls are in a
great homeschooling troop, so we've lucked out in that. Our first
year, in Tigers, when parents were required to be involved, they did
too much. They pushed the boys too much, like an ego-thang, and it
was just ugly and uncomfortable for everyone except those parents who
were just too clueless to realize that THEY were doing the boys
crafts and projects.
What we've done is make sure that everyone has a say, and if a scout
does not feel like being involved, then they don't have to be. Or
they are more than welcome to come up with another idea for
fulfilling a requirement. Throughout scouts there are always choices
for how things are done, electives are always optional and
requirements are malleable. What age are you working with?
Melissa
Mom to Joshua, Breanna, Emily, Rachel, Samuel, Daniel and Avari
Wife to Zane
blog me at
http://startlinglives.blogspot.com/
http://startlinglives365.blogspot.com
On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:42 PM, jessmiles07 wrote:
> My dd is going to be in Girl Scouts this year and I am officially the
> leader.
> So my question is, does anyone have an idea on how to make GS an
> unschooly experience. We are doing it at the public school which I
> have
> some reservations about, but for this year it will work. I am
> hoping to
> have parent involvment but I have been told not to expect it because a
> lot of parents won't make the time:(. Overall I want the girls to get
> the experience they want and have fun.
> So any ideas?? :)
>
>
>
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A Perry
I had a daisy troop and then a brownie troop for two years. We met in a church, which was really weird for me, but after a while the atmosphere faded into the background. I don't think I was an unschooler back then, but the troop was definitely open and expereimental. I had no clue what I was doing so I just brought a lot of stuff from home (dress up stuff, paint, clay, puppets, our cat, etc.) and we played a lot. We also had a camp out and planted some flowers for a park in the neighborhood. We put on a play (entirely improvisational) for the parents. I remember also getting together with another troop for a car wash. We ate snacks and chatted. We did what we wanted to do, with the exception of singing one song at the end of every meeting that was sort of "required" I guess. ("Make new friends, but keep the old, one is silver and the other gold.")"
I think it can be whatever you want it to be, with the girls' input. My daughter, who was five years old when I had the daisy troop, was full of great ideas for things to do, and some of the other moms and daughters also gave suggestions. I don't know if I agree with Melissa, unless you find yourself dealing with the "Little League" kind of parent who has some rigid expectations of what you're doing. Maybe send out a little flyer to the parents beforehand letting them know that this is not going to be an achievement oriented thing, but a fun get together and work together time for you and the girls.
~Angela
PS Sorry to any cool Little League parents out there.
I think it can be whatever you want it to be, with the girls' input. My daughter, who was five years old when I had the daisy troop, was full of great ideas for things to do, and some of the other moms and daughters also gave suggestions. I don't know if I agree with Melissa, unless you find yourself dealing with the "Little League" kind of parent who has some rigid expectations of what you're doing. Maybe send out a little flyer to the parents beforehand letting them know that this is not going to be an achievement oriented thing, but a fun get together and work together time for you and the girls.
~Angela
PS Sorry to any cool Little League parents out there.
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Melissa Gray <autismhelp@...> wrote:
From: Melissa Gray <autismhelp@...>
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Girl Scouts
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 5:12 PM
My experience? For an unschooly scout group, it's better NOT to have
parental involvement. I'm a boy scout leader, and my girls are in a
great homeschooling troop, so we've lucked out in that. Our first
year, in Tigers, when parents were required to be involved, they did
too much. They pushed the boys too much, like an ego-thang, and it
was just ugly and uncomfortable for everyone except those parents who
were just too clueless to realize that THEY were doing the boys
crafts and projects.
What we've done is make sure that everyone has a say, and if a scout
does not feel like being involved, then they don't have to be. Or
they are more than welcome to come up with another idea for
fulfilling a requirement. Throughout scouts there are always choices
for how things are done, electives are always optional and
requirements are malleable. What age are you working with?
Melissa
Mom to Joshua, Breanna, Emily, Rachel, Samuel, Daniel and Avari
Wife to Zane
blog me at
http://startlingliv es.blogspot. com/
http://startlingliv es365.blogspot. com
On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:42 PM, jessmiles07 wrote:
> My dd is going to be in Girl Scouts this year and I am officially the
> leader.
> So my question is, does anyone have an idea on how to make GS an
> unschooly experience. We are doing it at the public school which I
> have
> some reservations about, but for this year it will work. I am
> hoping to
> have parent involvment but I have been told not to expect it because a
> lot of parents won't make the time:(. Overall I want the girls to get
> the experience they want and have fun.
> So any ideas?? :)
>
>
>
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Shannon
My suggestion is limited parent evolvement such as providing snacks or
assisting with crafts. My mother did things very unschooling for us. We had
opening which differed as we got older but was still opening, then an
activity that we either participated or not, snack/drinks and closing. For a
first meeting it would be a good idea to have the girls do an all about me
type thing that can be done as a group or individual. This way you can get
an idea about their interests which will help you see what kind of
patches/badges they want to work on.
My mother never said we are going to work on this. she just planned the
activities that followed the requirements. She never had a girl who didn't
fulfill enough of the requirements and everyone always got at least one
patch/badge at the end ceremony. Even though I don't do scouts, I organize a
lot of group activities and my mom laughs that I still use her techniques
and activities that I learned in scouts. Little tricks to get the kids to do
what needs to be done or explain it easier so that we can do things easier.
Shannon
_____
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jessmiles07
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Girl Scouts
My dd is going to be in Girl Scouts this year and I am officially the
leader.
So my question is, does anyone have an idea on how to make GS an
unschooly experience. We are doing it at the public school which I have
some reservations about, but for this year it will work. I am hoping to
have parent involvment but I have been told not to expect it because a
lot of parents won't make the time:(. Overall I want the girls to get
the experience they want and have fun.
So any ideas?? :)
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assisting with crafts. My mother did things very unschooling for us. We had
opening which differed as we got older but was still opening, then an
activity that we either participated or not, snack/drinks and closing. For a
first meeting it would be a good idea to have the girls do an all about me
type thing that can be done as a group or individual. This way you can get
an idea about their interests which will help you see what kind of
patches/badges they want to work on.
My mother never said we are going to work on this. she just planned the
activities that followed the requirements. She never had a girl who didn't
fulfill enough of the requirements and everyone always got at least one
patch/badge at the end ceremony. Even though I don't do scouts, I organize a
lot of group activities and my mom laughs that I still use her techniques
and activities that I learned in scouts. Little tricks to get the kids to do
what needs to be done or explain it easier so that we can do things easier.
Shannon
_____
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jessmiles07
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Girl Scouts
My dd is going to be in Girl Scouts this year and I am officially the
leader.
So my question is, does anyone have an idea on how to make GS an
unschooly experience. We are doing it at the public school which I have
some reservations about, but for this year it will work. I am hoping to
have parent involvment but I have been told not to expect it because a
lot of parents won't make the time:(. Overall I want the girls to get
the experience they want and have fun.
So any ideas?? :)
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Robin
jessmiles07 wrote:
them out. The GS program is more flexible than the BSs are (I have
both). GS specifically has "unschooly" goals: empowerment, giving girls
choices, exposing them to new experiences and "wider opportunities"
(tho' they changed the name of that program to "Destinations"). GS also
specifically say that any requirements can be changed or substituted.
Each council makes up its own programs, too (including training) but
many councils have their training materials available on the web as
well. So if your council doesn't have program-specific stuff that you
need, look around. The council I had my troop in had some good training
materials for each level (Daisy, Brownie, etc.) Included were tips on
how to implement their "girl led" philosophy.
I have the training booklets in .pdf format, I think. Email me privately
if you need them.
--
Robin
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for up to 25 years.
> My dd is going to be in Girl Scouts this year and I am officially theIf you have any trainings available to you from your local council check
> leader.
> So my question is, does anyone have an idea on how to make GS an
> unschooly experience. We are doing it at the public school which I have
> some reservations about, but for this year it will work. I am hoping to
> have parent involvment but I have been told not to expect it because a
> lot of parents won't make the time:(. Overall I want the girls to get
> the experience they want and have fun.
> So any ideas?? :)
them out. The GS program is more flexible than the BSs are (I have
both). GS specifically has "unschooly" goals: empowerment, giving girls
choices, exposing them to new experiences and "wider opportunities"
(tho' they changed the name of that program to "Destinations"). GS also
specifically say that any requirements can be changed or substituted.
Each council makes up its own programs, too (including training) but
many councils have their training materials available on the web as
well. So if your council doesn't have program-specific stuff that you
need, look around. The council I had my troop in had some good training
materials for each level (Daisy, Brownie, etc.) Included were tips on
how to implement their "girl led" philosophy.
I have the training booklets in .pdf format, I think. Email me privately
if you need them.
--
Robin
Think you can't afford solar--Think Again! check out:
http://www.jointhesolution.com/livinggaia
To find out how to rent a solar system and lock in your utility rates
for up to 25 years.
Debra Rossing
One thing that aggravated MIL (she and a friend ran a Daisy/Brownie/GS
troop for several years) was that their local council *required* cookie
sales - if you didn't participate in the cookie sale fund raising, you
were not *allowed* to participate in any other fund raising activities.
Which meant either you do without those resources that funds make
available OR you shill the ever shrinking high priced cookies.
Deb
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troop for several years) was that their local council *required* cookie
sales - if you didn't participate in the cookie sale fund raising, you
were not *allowed* to participate in any other fund raising activities.
Which meant either you do without those resources that funds make
available OR you shill the ever shrinking high priced cookies.
Deb
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Pamela Sorooshian
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Debra Rossing wrote:
sales. That's because the cookie money goes partly to the troop but
also partly to pay for the organization's expenses for personnel,
centers, and camping facilities. The individual troop fundraising
doesn't contribute to the organization's expenses. Since we USE the
organization's facilities extensively - that always seemed totally
fair to me. The difference between Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts is that
Boy Scouts gets LOTS of funding from corporations and grown up boy
scouts who are now CEO's, etc., of major corporations. Because of the
reality that women are still not commonly found in such positions,
Girl Scouts doesn't have nearly as much of that kind of funding.
But - the cookies are really easy to sell. We don't usually try to
sell to friends, relatives, neighbors. We just get a "booth sale" slot
at a grocery store or other business. We put the cookies on a table
and the girls stand near the exits and say, "Would you like to buy
some Girl Scout Cookies?" Lots of people are really thrilled when they
see Girl Scout Cookies. Their eyes light up. Lots just ignore the
girls, a handful are rude, most just say no thank you, but, really,
there are plenty of people who are very very happy to buy them - they
look FORWARD to them, they say.
"Shill" is a pretty strong word to use - it actually means that
someone is faking being an eager customer in order to con others into
buying a product.
Also, you don't have to sell any particular number of boxes of
cookies. If you sell just one box, that's considered "participation."
We're lucky to have a fund-raiser that is so well-known and set up for
us. We've done lots of other fund-raising, over the years, but cookie
sales are definitely the easiest and most lucrative for us. Over the
past two years, my daughter's troop put a LOT of time into raising
money for their cross-country train trip and to spend a week in
Manhattan (including six Broadway shows). They collected recyclables,
they put on a whole bunch of drop-off babysitting events (Drop and
Shop - near a mall, during November and December, for example). They
had garage sales. They sold magazine subscriptions. Cookie sale money
swamped all the rest of the fund-raising put together.
When the girls were younger, many of them LOVED standing out and
selling cookies at the stores. The girls who didn't want to do it
didn't do it. We always made it completely optional.
Our expenses were very minimal with younger girls. We usually had dues
- something like $1 per meeting for the younger girls. That was enough
to cover the cost of supplies. Parents volunteered to bring snacks.
Cookie sale money would be used for specific activities or events.
When the girls get older, you can keep track of their fundraising
individually - so my daughter raised enough through cookie sales and
the other fund-raising activities to have about $500 credit toward our
trip this year. Other girls might have had more or less.
I was thinking about the whole process of having the kids raise money
for their own activities. There are pros and cons to it, imo. It can
clearly be taken too far, but it doesn't have to be. To some degree,
the kids tend to enjoy it - my girls used to make up funny jingles and
stand and sing in front of the stores when selling cookies. They had a
blast. We'd never do it if it wasn't enjoyable.
But, also, there was something more - something more difficult to
put a name on. There is a holistic nature to a well-run program - the
girls decide what they want to do, plan it, get together whatever is
needed, including raising money for it, and do it. They don't do all
of those things all by themselves, of course, but they have some level
of involvement in them all. It is different than just "showing up" and
having an activity all planned out and ready. That can be good, too,
but the ones that the girls have worked toward, themselves, really
seem to be more valuable to them.
If all I said above sound like a defense of Girl Scouts, I should say
that if I had it to do over again, though, we'd probably have moved
toward more involvement in 4H and maybe not done Girl Scouts. We did
do 4H for about 4 years - mostly horse stuff, but also some other
projects. I really think that the way it is organized is awesome for
unschoolers. In 4H you pick what you're interested in (or offer what
you have expertise in) and you meet with a group to work on that
particular interest. You do meet with the entire club, usually once a
month for a meeting and other times for service projects or other
group activities. But, anyway, I like the way it is all organized
around experiential learning and exploring new interests and
supporting existing interests. The 4H projects can be pretty much
anything - I started out thinking it was all animal-related, but, no,
I ended up running a drama project and my daughter did photography,
leather working, arts and crafts, gardening, and much more. Mostly she
was there for the horsemanship, so that was our focus. But there were
LOTS of service projects and I found those to be very gratifying.
Another thing - while Girl Scouts often doesn't appeal to the older
girls so much, 4H seems to get better as they get older.
-pam
> One thing that aggravated MIL (she and a friend ran a Daisy/Brownie/GSThis is true. You can't do extra fund-raising if you don't do cookie
> troop for several years) was that their local council *required*
> cookie
> sales - if you didn't participate in the cookie sale fund raising, you
> were not *allowed* to participate in any other fund raising
> activities.
> Which meant either you do without those resources that funds make
> available OR you shill the ever shrinking high priced cookies.
sales. That's because the cookie money goes partly to the troop but
also partly to pay for the organization's expenses for personnel,
centers, and camping facilities. The individual troop fundraising
doesn't contribute to the organization's expenses. Since we USE the
organization's facilities extensively - that always seemed totally
fair to me. The difference between Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts is that
Boy Scouts gets LOTS of funding from corporations and grown up boy
scouts who are now CEO's, etc., of major corporations. Because of the
reality that women are still not commonly found in such positions,
Girl Scouts doesn't have nearly as much of that kind of funding.
But - the cookies are really easy to sell. We don't usually try to
sell to friends, relatives, neighbors. We just get a "booth sale" slot
at a grocery store or other business. We put the cookies on a table
and the girls stand near the exits and say, "Would you like to buy
some Girl Scout Cookies?" Lots of people are really thrilled when they
see Girl Scout Cookies. Their eyes light up. Lots just ignore the
girls, a handful are rude, most just say no thank you, but, really,
there are plenty of people who are very very happy to buy them - they
look FORWARD to them, they say.
"Shill" is a pretty strong word to use - it actually means that
someone is faking being an eager customer in order to con others into
buying a product.
Also, you don't have to sell any particular number of boxes of
cookies. If you sell just one box, that's considered "participation."
We're lucky to have a fund-raiser that is so well-known and set up for
us. We've done lots of other fund-raising, over the years, but cookie
sales are definitely the easiest and most lucrative for us. Over the
past two years, my daughter's troop put a LOT of time into raising
money for their cross-country train trip and to spend a week in
Manhattan (including six Broadway shows). They collected recyclables,
they put on a whole bunch of drop-off babysitting events (Drop and
Shop - near a mall, during November and December, for example). They
had garage sales. They sold magazine subscriptions. Cookie sale money
swamped all the rest of the fund-raising put together.
When the girls were younger, many of them LOVED standing out and
selling cookies at the stores. The girls who didn't want to do it
didn't do it. We always made it completely optional.
Our expenses were very minimal with younger girls. We usually had dues
- something like $1 per meeting for the younger girls. That was enough
to cover the cost of supplies. Parents volunteered to bring snacks.
Cookie sale money would be used for specific activities or events.
When the girls get older, you can keep track of their fundraising
individually - so my daughter raised enough through cookie sales and
the other fund-raising activities to have about $500 credit toward our
trip this year. Other girls might have had more or less.
I was thinking about the whole process of having the kids raise money
for their own activities. There are pros and cons to it, imo. It can
clearly be taken too far, but it doesn't have to be. To some degree,
the kids tend to enjoy it - my girls used to make up funny jingles and
stand and sing in front of the stores when selling cookies. They had a
blast. We'd never do it if it wasn't enjoyable.
But, also, there was something more - something more difficult to
put a name on. There is a holistic nature to a well-run program - the
girls decide what they want to do, plan it, get together whatever is
needed, including raising money for it, and do it. They don't do all
of those things all by themselves, of course, but they have some level
of involvement in them all. It is different than just "showing up" and
having an activity all planned out and ready. That can be good, too,
but the ones that the girls have worked toward, themselves, really
seem to be more valuable to them.
If all I said above sound like a defense of Girl Scouts, I should say
that if I had it to do over again, though, we'd probably have moved
toward more involvement in 4H and maybe not done Girl Scouts. We did
do 4H for about 4 years - mostly horse stuff, but also some other
projects. I really think that the way it is organized is awesome for
unschoolers. In 4H you pick what you're interested in (or offer what
you have expertise in) and you meet with a group to work on that
particular interest. You do meet with the entire club, usually once a
month for a meeting and other times for service projects or other
group activities. But, anyway, I like the way it is all organized
around experiential learning and exploring new interests and
supporting existing interests. The 4H projects can be pretty much
anything - I started out thinking it was all animal-related, but, no,
I ended up running a drama project and my daughter did photography,
leather working, arts and crafts, gardening, and much more. Mostly she
was there for the horsemanship, so that was our focus. But there were
LOTS of service projects and I found those to be very gratifying.
Another thing - while Girl Scouts often doesn't appeal to the older
girls so much, 4H seems to get better as they get older.
-pam
Robin
Debra Rossing wrote:
popular, because that is the part of being a girl scout I remember
liking the least. Not only are people disappointed since I've been
taking a breather from leading a troop because they can't get the
cookies, but the girls are disappointed, too! When I talked about
getting back into GS they both said, "will we be able to sell cookies?"
And even though I don't remember cookie selling fondly, I learned a lot
about talking to people, putting myself out there, and that I could
succeed. The experience (back then we went door-to-door) helped me
tremendously later in life.
--
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> One thing that aggravated MIL (she and a friend ran a Daisy/Brownie/GSI was surprised when I became a leader that the cookie sale is so
> troop for several years) was that their local council *required* cookie
> sales - if you didn't participate in the cookie sale fund raising, you
> were not *allowed* to participate in any other fund raising activities.
> Which meant either you do without those resources that funds make
> available OR you shill the ever shrinking high priced cookies.
>
> Deb
popular, because that is the part of being a girl scout I remember
liking the least. Not only are people disappointed since I've been
taking a breather from leading a troop because they can't get the
cookies, but the girls are disappointed, too! When I talked about
getting back into GS they both said, "will we be able to sell cookies?"
And even though I don't remember cookie selling fondly, I learned a lot
about talking to people, putting myself out there, and that I could
succeed. The experience (back then we went door-to-door) helped me
tremendously later in life.
--
Robin
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Sandra Foyt
Girl Scouts can by as "unschooly" (is that a word?) as you and the girls
choose. Girl Scouts provides programs and incentives that you can
choose to use, or not. Recently, GSUSA has undergone a huge remodling
to focus on promoting building girl leadership. As a result, there are
now a variety of pathways, some of which are still in development.
Girls can choose to join a troop, or not. They can instead attend
programs independently, or they might join a camp, or the upcoming
virtual option.
GSUSA has also developed great new materials that make it easier to
encourage girl-driven activities. There are Journeys for each age level
that will spell things out for you, if you need it.
Frankly, as a leader, your goal is to find out what your girls are
interested in doing. They may want to do service activities, or outdoor
exploration, or crafts, or whatever. The leader is a facilitator, not
a director. In a way, it's more difficult to back off and let the girls
lead, but that's what make for a great girl scout experience.
I've been a GS leader since my daughter was in 1st Grade, and she is
going into 7th now. The past year has been a huge transition year,
where we've been figuring out how to encourage the girls to take the
initiative. This is an ongoing process, and I'm sharing our experience
on my On Living By Learning blog at http://onlivingbylearning.com
<http://onlivingbylearning.com> .
Enjoy the journey! Sandra Foyt
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choose. Girl Scouts provides programs and incentives that you can
choose to use, or not. Recently, GSUSA has undergone a huge remodling
to focus on promoting building girl leadership. As a result, there are
now a variety of pathways, some of which are still in development.
Girls can choose to join a troop, or not. They can instead attend
programs independently, or they might join a camp, or the upcoming
virtual option.
GSUSA has also developed great new materials that make it easier to
encourage girl-driven activities. There are Journeys for each age level
that will spell things out for you, if you need it.
Frankly, as a leader, your goal is to find out what your girls are
interested in doing. They may want to do service activities, or outdoor
exploration, or crafts, or whatever. The leader is a facilitator, not
a director. In a way, it's more difficult to back off and let the girls
lead, but that's what make for a great girl scout experience.
I've been a GS leader since my daughter was in 1st Grade, and she is
going into 7th now. The past year has been a huge transition year,
where we've been figuring out how to encourage the girls to take the
initiative. This is an ongoing process, and I'm sharing our experience
on my On Living By Learning blog at http://onlivingbylearning.com
<http://onlivingbylearning.com> .
Enjoy the journey! Sandra Foyt
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k
When I was a scout (for a veerrry short time), I remember selling cookies
which sold themselves because it's like people waited for them and bought
'em up like they were going out of style. My folks were reluctant about me
selling stuff and I'm not sure why.. because I didn't ask. They might not
remember why now.
And... I'll write another thread for that boy scout question I have.
~Katherine
which sold themselves because it's like people waited for them and bought
'em up like they were going out of style. My folks were reluctant about me
selling stuff and I'm not sure why.. because I didn't ask. They might not
remember why now.
And... I'll write another thread for that boy scout question I have.
~Katherine
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Robin <GaiaAlive@...> wrote:
> Debra Rossing wrote:
> > One thing that aggravated MIL (she and a friend ran a Daisy/Brownie/GS
> > troop for several years) was that their local council *required* cookie
> > sales - if you didn't participate in the cookie sale fund raising, you
> > were not *allowed* to participate in any other fund raising activities.
> > Which meant either you do without those resources that funds make
> > available OR you shill the ever shrinking high priced cookies.
> >
> > Deb
>
> I was surprised when I became a leader that the cookie sale is so
> popular, because that is the part of being a girl scout I remember
> liking the least. Not only are people disappointed since I've been
> taking a breather from leading a troop because they can't get the
> cookies, but the girls are disappointed, too! When I talked about
> getting back into GS they both said, "will we be able to sell cookies?"
>
> And even though I don't remember cookie selling fondly, I learned a lot
> about talking to people, putting myself out there, and that I could
> succeed. The experience (back then we went door-to-door) helped me
> tremendously later in life.
> --
> Robin
> Think you can't afford solar--Think Again! check out:
> http://www.jointhesolution.com/livinggaia
> To find out how to rent a solar system and lock in your utility rates
> for up to 25 years.
>
>
>
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>>My dd is going to be in Girl Scouts this year and I am officially theleader.
So my question is, does anyone have an idea on how to make GS an
unschooly experience. We are doing it at the public school which I have
some reservations about, but for this year it will work. I am hoping to
have parent involvment but I have been told not to expect it because a
lot of parents won't make the time:(. Overall I want the girls to get
the experience they want and have fun.
So any ideas?? :)<<
I'm going to forward this to my wife, who has worked for the Girl Scouts for
over 14 years AND is a dedicated unschooler. There are lots of unschooled
Girl Scouts, and while GS has lots of ideas and materials, there's certainly no
reason that it has to be schooly. I know Pam Soorashian's daughters have
loved GS, and Jessica Harmon is still active at 15.
Kathryn
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Debra Rossing
I think the rub was that it was MANDATORY with an "or else" attached
rather than saying "here are the 6 fund raiser options for the year.
Pick whatever you want to do. The first X% of funds raised go to the
organization, the rest to the troop". Not to mention that at the time
(some 10 or more years ago), the sight of girl scouts, cheerleaders, etc
standing at a table outside the grocery store was unusual - the only
folks who did that much was the Salvation Army Santas around the
holidays. It's only in more recent years that the 'booth' sales have
become common. Back then, it was hit up all your neighbors, friends,
relatives and co-workers. (And, FWIW, there weren't a lot of
'facilities' really, occasional local field trips but that's about it)
Deb
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rather than saying "here are the 6 fund raiser options for the year.
Pick whatever you want to do. The first X% of funds raised go to the
organization, the rest to the troop". Not to mention that at the time
(some 10 or more years ago), the sight of girl scouts, cheerleaders, etc
standing at a table outside the grocery store was unusual - the only
folks who did that much was the Salvation Army Santas around the
holidays. It's only in more recent years that the 'booth' sales have
become common. Back then, it was hit up all your neighbors, friends,
relatives and co-workers. (And, FWIW, there weren't a lot of
'facilities' really, occasional local field trips but that's about it)
Deb
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She is five. So it is Daisy's:)
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