vaccination
Johanna
Hello,
without wanting to discuss whether or not vaccination is ok or not –
I wonder if you know what I could do: My daughter had a vaccination
months ago. She didn't want it (and I wasn't unschooling at the
time), but she was kind of ok with it, but as the needle went in, she
moved away, but they forced the needle in. Months later she still
complains that it hurts where she had the vaccination. One cannot see
anything, but I believe her and I think it must have been because she
moved and the needle hurt more than it should have (sidewise inside
the arm?). She never had that with other vaccinations. Do you know
anything about this, that it can happen, because of the needle or the
medication? I imagine there must be a lot of people here who are
against vacc. so maybe you know exactly if this kind of side effect
can occur and maybe what one could do. I image that our doctor will
just say that she cannot see anything and that she is making it up or
something. German doctors don't believe their patients anyway ;-)
Greetings
Johanna
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without wanting to discuss whether or not vaccination is ok or not –
I wonder if you know what I could do: My daughter had a vaccination
months ago. She didn't want it (and I wasn't unschooling at the
time), but she was kind of ok with it, but as the needle went in, she
moved away, but they forced the needle in. Months later she still
complains that it hurts where she had the vaccination. One cannot see
anything, but I believe her and I think it must have been because she
moved and the needle hurt more than it should have (sidewise inside
the arm?). She never had that with other vaccinations. Do you know
anything about this, that it can happen, because of the needle or the
medication? I imagine there must be a lot of people here who are
against vacc. so maybe you know exactly if this kind of side effect
can occur and maybe what one could do. I image that our doctor will
just say that she cannot see anything and that she is making it up or
something. German doctors don't believe their patients anyway ;-)
Greetings
Johanna
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Ren Allen
I don't vaccinate my children for many reasons, one of the foremost
being that I don't trust what is IN those damn things. If my children
really want to be vaccinated one day, they will still have that
option. I refuse to put toxic ingredients into their small bodies
without their knowledgable consent.
It's a tough issue, with no clear answers but if you want a non-vacc
pov, there's plenty of good reading out there. I don't know about the
pain she's experiencing but it could be mental thing as well as
physical. Can you claim religous exemption in Germany?
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
being that I don't trust what is IN those damn things. If my children
really want to be vaccinated one day, they will still have that
option. I refuse to put toxic ingredients into their small bodies
without their knowledgable consent.
It's a tough issue, with no clear answers but if you want a non-vacc
pov, there's plenty of good reading out there. I don't know about the
pain she's experiencing but it could be mental thing as well as
physical. Can you claim religous exemption in Germany?
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
Johanna
I think we can actually choose to not vaccinate, but they wouldn't
take the children in Kindergarten or such (school? lol maybe that
would be a way to keep them at home ;-) no, I don't think so). I
never question vaccination (well yes I did but I came to the
conclusion they were good ;-) I know there are many arguments against
it, and the biggest argument against it *today* for *me* would be, if
my children don't want it – but that is now. Half a year ago I just
didn't know this existed at all, so I just did it. I haven't found
any information on the kind of pain my daughter is experiencing...
Greetings
Johanna
Am 14.10.2006 um 16:22 schrieb Ren Allen:
take the children in Kindergarten or such (school? lol maybe that
would be a way to keep them at home ;-) no, I don't think so). I
never question vaccination (well yes I did but I came to the
conclusion they were good ;-) I know there are many arguments against
it, and the biggest argument against it *today* for *me* would be, if
my children don't want it – but that is now. Half a year ago I just
didn't know this existed at all, so I just did it. I haven't found
any information on the kind of pain my daughter is experiencing...
Greetings
Johanna
Am 14.10.2006 um 16:22 schrieb Ren Allen:
> I don't vaccinate my children for many reasons, one of the foremost
> being that I don't trust what is IN those damn things. If my children
> really want to be vaccinated one day, they will still have that
> option. I refuse to put toxic ingredients into their small bodies
> without their knowledgable consent.
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> It's a tough issue, with no clear answers but if you want a non-vacc
> pov, there's plenty of good reading out there. I don't know about the
> pain she's experiencing but it could be mental thing as well as
> physical. Can you claim religous exemption in Germany?
>
> Ren
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Melissa
This kind of reaction not only can occur, it's common and in the box
insert that came with the vaccination. If it's not a mechanical
reaction or muscle damage, it's possible that she reacted to that
particular virus, or if she was otherwise stressed (illness, tired,
received multiple virus) she may just have reacted to the chemicals
in the shots.
I have two kids with vaccine damage, so count yourself lucky it's
only soreness! if it makes you feel any better, most drs don't
believe their patients, they are indoctrinated (get it, eh?lol! in
'doct' rinated) anyway, can you tell all my big kids are gone, and
most of the little ones are napping? wow, I hardly know what to do
with my time. I always feel like there's not enough time to do what I
want anyway, read some of my book, play video games, surf the net,
watch a movie, cross stitch, ATC's, knit.....ack!!! how do people
choose one thing to do? (please note that cleaning was NOT on my list)
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (9), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (5), Dan
(3), and Avari Rose
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insert that came with the vaccination. If it's not a mechanical
reaction or muscle damage, it's possible that she reacted to that
particular virus, or if she was otherwise stressed (illness, tired,
received multiple virus) she may just have reacted to the chemicals
in the shots.
I have two kids with vaccine damage, so count yourself lucky it's
only soreness! if it makes you feel any better, most drs don't
believe their patients, they are indoctrinated (get it, eh?lol! in
'doct' rinated) anyway, can you tell all my big kids are gone, and
most of the little ones are napping? wow, I hardly know what to do
with my time. I always feel like there's not enough time to do what I
want anyway, read some of my book, play video games, surf the net,
watch a movie, cross stitch, ATC's, knit.....ack!!! how do people
choose one thing to do? (please note that cleaning was NOT on my list)
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (9), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (5), Dan
(3), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
http://360.yahoo.com/multimomma
On Oct 14, 2006, at 7:23 AM, Johanna wrote:
> Hello,
>
> without wanting to discuss whether or not vaccination is ok or not �
> I wonder if you know what I could do: My daughter had a vaccination
> months ago. She didn't want it (and I wasn't unschooling at the
> time), but she was kind of ok with it, but as the needle went in, she
> moved away, but they forced the needle in. Months later she still
> complains that it hurts where she had the vaccination. One cannot see
> anything, but I believe her and I think it must have been because she
> moved and the needle hurt more than it should have (sidewise inside
> the arm?). She never had that with other vaccinations. Do you know
> anything about this, that it can happen, because of the needle or the
> medication? I imagine there must be a lot of people here who are
> against vacc. so maybe you know exactly if this kind of side effect
> can occur and maybe what one could do. I image that our doctor will
> just say that she cannot see anything and that she is making it up or
> something. German doctors don't believe their patients anyway ;-)
>
> Greetings
> Johanna
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