Unschooling in Idaho
Beth Mouser
Thank you for the website regarding home education in Idaho. I am
concerned because this is the jist of what the law says:
"The parent or guardian of any child resident in this state who has
attained the age of seven (7) years at the time of the commencement of
school in his district, but not the age of sixteen (16) years, shall
cause the child to be instructed in subjects commonly and usually
taught in the public schools of the state of Idaho." The generally
accepted subjects are: English, math, reading, science, history and
civics.
Idaho Code title 33, section 202 - "... Unless the child is otherwise
comparably instructed the parent or guardian shall cause the child to
attend a public, private or parochial school..." NOTE: If the child
is "otherwise comparably instructed" (which includes home education),
TO ME, this sounds like I need to be using a curriculum or at least
noting how I am instructing them. However, I do know that there are
some unschooling families in Idaho. They don't speak up much on any
chatlists and I don't know of an Unschooling group. Maybe this is why
they keep a low profile. I am just wondering about how open I should
be to others in admitting that I unschool.
Beth
concerned because this is the jist of what the law says:
"The parent or guardian of any child resident in this state who has
attained the age of seven (7) years at the time of the commencement of
school in his district, but not the age of sixteen (16) years, shall
cause the child to be instructed in subjects commonly and usually
taught in the public schools of the state of Idaho." The generally
accepted subjects are: English, math, reading, science, history and
civics.
Idaho Code title 33, section 202 - "... Unless the child is otherwise
comparably instructed the parent or guardian shall cause the child to
attend a public, private or parochial school..." NOTE: If the child
is "otherwise comparably instructed" (which includes home education),
TO ME, this sounds like I need to be using a curriculum or at least
noting how I am instructing them. However, I do know that there are
some unschooling families in Idaho. They don't speak up much on any
chatlists and I don't know of an Unschooling group. Maybe this is why
they keep a low profile. I am just wondering about how open I should
be to others in admitting that I unschool.
Beth
Deb Lewis
***TO ME, this sounds like I need to be using a curriculum or at least
noting how I am instructing them.***
Does the law say you have to provide proof of instruction, or show anyone
your child's work or provide the details of your instruction method?
If not then you don't have to note how you instruct them.
Montana law says something similar. But we are not required to provide
information about curriculum or instruction and the school authorities have
no legal right to ask. So it's not as if they have the legal power to make
you prove you're using a curriculum or as Montana law states, "an organized
course of study."
The law says your kids must cover subjects taught in school.
I think you can be fairly confident at some point during the year your kids
will come across something that could be classified under the categories
listed in your state law.
I found this link to support group information in Idaho. You can probably
find other unschooling families to talk with.
http://www.nhen.org/support/groups/online.asp
You don't have to be afraid. Other families are happily unschooling in
every state. I'm in Montana but you can email me off list if you think I
could be of any help.
Deb Lewis
noting how I am instructing them.***
Does the law say you have to provide proof of instruction, or show anyone
your child's work or provide the details of your instruction method?
If not then you don't have to note how you instruct them.
Montana law says something similar. But we are not required to provide
information about curriculum or instruction and the school authorities have
no legal right to ask. So it's not as if they have the legal power to make
you prove you're using a curriculum or as Montana law states, "an organized
course of study."
The law says your kids must cover subjects taught in school.
I think you can be fairly confident at some point during the year your kids
will come across something that could be classified under the categories
listed in your state law.
I found this link to support group information in Idaho. You can probably
find other unschooling families to talk with.
http://www.nhen.org/support/groups/online.asp
You don't have to be afraid. Other families are happily unschooling in
every state. I'm in Montana but you can email me off list if you think I
could be of any help.
Deb Lewis
Vickisue Gray
Wow. I need to do some research. My county states I need to keep and have available for review, the teacher manuals I use plus samples of the students work.
Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote:
***TO ME, this sounds like I need to be using a curriculum or at least
noting how I am instructing them.***
Does the law say you have to provide proof of instruction, or show anyone
your child's work or provide the details of your instruction method?
If not then you don't have to note how you instruct them.
Montana law says something similar. But we are not required to provide
information about curriculum or instruction and the school authorities have
no legal right to ask. So it's not as if they have the legal power to make
you prove you're using a curriculum or as Montana law states, "an organized
course of study."
The law says your kids must cover subjects taught in school.
I think you can be fairly confident at some point during the year your kids
will come across something that could be classified under the categories
listed in your state law.
I found this link to support group information in Idaho. You can probably
find other unschooling families to talk with.
http://www.nhen.org/support/groups/online.asp
You don't have to be afraid. Other families are happily unschooling in
every state. I'm in Montana but you can email me off list if you think I
could be of any help.
Deb Lewis
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Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote:
***TO ME, this sounds like I need to be using a curriculum or at least
noting how I am instructing them.***
Does the law say you have to provide proof of instruction, or show anyone
your child's work or provide the details of your instruction method?
If not then you don't have to note how you instruct them.
Montana law says something similar. But we are not required to provide
information about curriculum or instruction and the school authorities have
no legal right to ask. So it's not as if they have the legal power to make
you prove you're using a curriculum or as Montana law states, "an organized
course of study."
The law says your kids must cover subjects taught in school.
I think you can be fairly confident at some point during the year your kids
will come across something that could be classified under the categories
listed in your state law.
I found this link to support group information in Idaho. You can probably
find other unschooling families to talk with.
http://www.nhen.org/support/groups/online.asp
You don't have to be afraid. Other families are happily unschooling in
every state. I'm in Montana but you can email me off list if you think I
could be of any help.
Deb Lewis
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Deb Lewis
***Wow. I need to do some research. My county states I need to keep and have
available for review, the teacher manuals I use plus samples of the students
work.***
What state are you in?
(I'm in a state of confusion <snort>)
Deb Lewis
available for review, the teacher manuals I use plus samples of the students
work.***
What state are you in?
(I'm in a state of confusion <snort>)
Deb Lewis
Vickisue Gray
I'm in Florida. I just re-read the county's requirements and yes, I need to keep a file of "proof of learning" I'll call it, along with what's taught for two years. I'm not really all that concerned as my son is already at eight, reading better then most high school graduates. He qualifies for the "gifted" program but the teacher was a nasty woman. I have given him freedom to learn what he loves and he is growing by leaps and bounds. I will still have to have him do the stupid FCAT (it really is a poor test) or have an evaluator come in for a yearly report of his progress. So curently, I'm just saving ALL his projects, pictures, stories and games he has created.
If he gets a good evaluation or good score on the FCAT (or similiar test) I don't think they will bother to look further. So on that note, I guess I'm not completely free to totally unschool as I'll need to show proof.
Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote:
***Wow. I need to do some research. My county states I need to keep and have
available for review, the teacher manuals I use plus samples of the students
work.***
What state are you in?
(I'm in a state of confusion <snort>)
Deb Lewis
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If he gets a good evaluation or good score on the FCAT (or similiar test) I don't think they will bother to look further. So on that note, I guess I'm not completely free to totally unschool as I'll need to show proof.
Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote:
***Wow. I need to do some research. My county states I need to keep and have
available for review, the teacher manuals I use plus samples of the students
work.***
What state are you in?
(I'm in a state of confusion <snort>)
Deb Lewis
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Lesa
IL law is very similar, too. We don't have any reporting to do. And you
can cover those *requirements* in other ways besides a curriculum.
Lesa
http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
-------Original Message-------
From: Deb Lewis
Date: 10/08/06 13:12:11
To: UBLIST
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Unschooling in Idaho
***TO ME, this sounds like I need to be using a curriculum or at least
noting how I am instructing them.***
Does the law say you have to provide proof of instruction, or show anyone
your child's work or provide the details of your instruction method?
If not then you don't have to note how you instruct them.
Montana law says something similar. But we are not required to provide
information about curriculum or instruction and the school authorities have
no legal right to ask. So it's not as if they have the legal power to make
you prove you're using a curriculum or as Montana law states, "an organized
course of study."
The law says your kids must cover subjects taught in school.
I think you can be fairly confident at some point during the year your kids
will come across something that could be classified under the categories
listed in your state law.
I found this link to support group information in Idaho. You can probably
find other unschooling families to talk with.
http://www.nhen.org/support/groups/online.asp
You don't have to be afraid. Other families are happily unschooling in
every state. I'm in Montana but you can email me off list if you think I
could be of any help.
Deb Lewis
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can cover those *requirements* in other ways besides a curriculum.
Lesa
http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
-------Original Message-------
From: Deb Lewis
Date: 10/08/06 13:12:11
To: UBLIST
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Unschooling in Idaho
***TO ME, this sounds like I need to be using a curriculum or at least
noting how I am instructing them.***
Does the law say you have to provide proof of instruction, or show anyone
your child's work or provide the details of your instruction method?
If not then you don't have to note how you instruct them.
Montana law says something similar. But we are not required to provide
information about curriculum or instruction and the school authorities have
no legal right to ask. So it's not as if they have the legal power to make
you prove you're using a curriculum or as Montana law states, "an organized
course of study."
The law says your kids must cover subjects taught in school.
I think you can be fairly confident at some point during the year your kids
will come across something that could be classified under the categories
listed in your state law.
I found this link to support group information in Idaho. You can probably
find other unschooling families to talk with.
http://www.nhen.org/support/groups/online.asp
You don't have to be afraid. Other families are happily unschooling in
every state. I'm in Montana but you can email me off list if you think I
could be of any help.
Deb Lewis
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Joanne
Hi Vickie,
I'm in Florida and we have the option of using what is known as a
600/non public school. Here are some links to get you started:
This is the "school" my children are registered with:
http://www.alternativeeducationinstitute.org/index.htm
The only requirement is attendance sent to her in the form of an e-
mail. It has to list 180 random dates. That's it.
The woman who runs the 'school" also runs a very informative yahoo
group that talks and Florida homeschooling laws. It's a good list to
be a member of. Here's the link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FL-HomeEducation-Law/?yguid=185550057
If any of the links don't work or you have any other questions, feel
free to contact me.
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (8), Shawna (11) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 2003
************************************
Unschooling Voices ~ Add Your Voice
www.foreverparents.com/UnschoolingVoices.html
--- In [email protected], Vickisue Gray
<vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
with what's taught for two years. I'm not really all that concerned
as my son is already at eight, reading better then most high school
graduates. He qualifies for the "gifted" program but the teacher
was a nasty woman. I have given him freedom to learn what he loves
and he is growing by leaps and bounds. I will still have to have
him do the stupid FCAT (it really is a poor test) or have an
evaluator come in for a yearly report of his progress. So curently,
I'm just saving ALL his projects, pictures, stories and games he has
created.
on that note, I guess I'm not completely free to totally unschool as
I'll need to show proof.
I'm in Florida and we have the option of using what is known as a
600/non public school. Here are some links to get you started:
This is the "school" my children are registered with:
http://www.alternativeeducationinstitute.org/index.htm
The only requirement is attendance sent to her in the form of an e-
mail. It has to list 180 random dates. That's it.
The woman who runs the 'school" also runs a very informative yahoo
group that talks and Florida homeschooling laws. It's a good list to
be a member of. Here's the link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FL-HomeEducation-Law/?yguid=185550057
If any of the links don't work or you have any other questions, feel
free to contact me.
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (8), Shawna (11) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 2003
************************************
Unschooling Voices ~ Add Your Voice
www.foreverparents.com/UnschoolingVoices.html
--- In [email protected], Vickisue Gray
<vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
>I need to keep a file of "proof of learning" I'll call it, along
> I'm in Florida. I just re-read the county's requirements and yes,
with what's taught for two years. I'm not really all that concerned
as my son is already at eight, reading better then most high school
graduates. He qualifies for the "gifted" program but the teacher
was a nasty woman. I have given him freedom to learn what he loves
and he is growing by leaps and bounds. I will still have to have
him do the stupid FCAT (it really is a poor test) or have an
evaluator come in for a yearly report of his progress. So curently,
I'm just saving ALL his projects, pictures, stories and games he has
created.
> If he gets a good evaluation or good score on the FCAT (orsimiliar test) I don't think they will bother to look further. So
on that note, I guess I'm not completely free to totally unschool as
I'll need to show proof.
>need to keep and have
>
> Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote:
> ***Wow. I need to do some research. My county states I
> available for review, the teacher manuals I use plus samples ofthe students
> work.***call rates.
>
> What state are you in?
> (I'm in a state of confusion <snort>)
>
> Deb Lewis
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Vickisue Gray
Thanks!
Joanne <billyandjoanne@...> wrote: Hi Vickie,
I'm in Florida and we have the option of using what is known as a
600/non public school. Here are some links to get you started:
This is the "school" my children are registered with:
http://www.alternativeeducationinstitute.org/index.htm
The only requirement is attendance sent to her in the form of an e-
mail. It has to list 180 random dates. That's it.
The woman who runs the 'school" also runs a very informative yahoo
group that talks and Florida homeschooling laws. It's a good list to
be a member of. Here's the link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FL-HomeEducation-Law/?yguid=185550057
If any of the links don't work or you have any other questions, feel
free to contact me.
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (8), Shawna (11) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 2003
************************************
Unschooling Voices ~ Add Your Voice
www.foreverparents.com/UnschoolingVoices.html
--- In [email protected], Vickisue Gray
<vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
with what's taught for two years. I'm not really all that concerned
as my son is already at eight, reading better then most high school
graduates. He qualifies for the "gifted" program but the teacher
was a nasty woman. I have given him freedom to learn what he loves
and he is growing by leaps and bounds. I will still have to have
him do the stupid FCAT (it really is a poor test) or have an
evaluator come in for a yearly report of his progress. So curently,
I'm just saving ALL his projects, pictures, stories and games he has
created.
on that note, I guess I'm not completely free to totally unschool as
I'll need to show proof.
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Joanne <billyandjoanne@...> wrote: Hi Vickie,
I'm in Florida and we have the option of using what is known as a
600/non public school. Here are some links to get you started:
This is the "school" my children are registered with:
http://www.alternativeeducationinstitute.org/index.htm
The only requirement is attendance sent to her in the form of an e-
mail. It has to list 180 random dates. That's it.
The woman who runs the 'school" also runs a very informative yahoo
group that talks and Florida homeschooling laws. It's a good list to
be a member of. Here's the link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FL-HomeEducation-Law/?yguid=185550057
If any of the links don't work or you have any other questions, feel
free to contact me.
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (8), Shawna (11) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 2003
************************************
Unschooling Voices ~ Add Your Voice
www.foreverparents.com/UnschoolingVoices.html
--- In [email protected], Vickisue Gray
<vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
>I need to keep a file of "proof of learning" I'll call it, along
> I'm in Florida. I just re-read the county's requirements and yes,
with what's taught for two years. I'm not really all that concerned
as my son is already at eight, reading better then most high school
graduates. He qualifies for the "gifted" program but the teacher
was a nasty woman. I have given him freedom to learn what he loves
and he is growing by leaps and bounds. I will still have to have
him do the stupid FCAT (it really is a poor test) or have an
evaluator come in for a yearly report of his progress. So curently,
I'm just saving ALL his projects, pictures, stories and games he has
created.
> If he gets a good evaluation or good score on the FCAT (orsimiliar test) I don't think they will bother to look further. So
on that note, I guess I'm not completely free to totally unschool as
I'll need to show proof.
>need to keep and have
>
> Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote:
> ***Wow. I need to do some research. My county states I
> available for review, the teacher manuals I use plus samples ofthe students
> work.***call rates.
>
> What state are you in?
> (I'm in a state of confusion <snort>)
>
> Deb Lewis
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Joanne
Your welcome and if you have any questions about how to start,
please let me know. It's painless, I promise. :-) Check out those
links I sent.
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (8), Shawna (11) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 2003
************************************
Unschooling Voices ~ Add Your Voice
www.foreverparents.com/UnschoolingVoices.html
--- In [email protected], Vickisue Gray
<vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
please let me know. It's painless, I promise. :-) Check out those
links I sent.
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (8), Shawna (11) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 2003
************************************
Unschooling Voices ~ Add Your Voice
www.foreverparents.com/UnschoolingVoices.html
--- In [email protected], Vickisue Gray
<vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
>to
> Thanks!
>
> Joanne <billyandjoanne@...> wrote: Hi Vickie,
>
> I'm in Florida and we have the option of using what is known as a
> 600/non public school. Here are some links to get you started:
>
> This is the "school" my children are registered with:
> http://www.alternativeeducationinstitute.org/index.htm
> The only requirement is attendance sent to her in the form of an e-
> mail. It has to list 180 random dates. That's it.
>
> The woman who runs the 'school" also runs a very informative yahoo
> group that talks and Florida homeschooling laws. It's a good list
> be a member of. Here's the link:feel
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FL-HomeEducation-Law/?yguid=185550057
>
> If any of the links don't work or you have any other questions,
> free to contact me.yes,
>
> ~ Joanne ~
> Mom to Jacqueline (8), Shawna (11) & Cimion (13)
> Adopted into our hearts October 2003
> ************************************
> Unschooling Voices ~ Add Your Voice
> www.foreverparents.com/UnschoolingVoices.html
>
> --- In [email protected], Vickisue Gray
> <vickisue_gray@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in Florida. I just re-read the county's requirements and
> I need to keep a file of "proof of learning" I'll call it, alongconcerned
> with what's taught for two years. I'm not really all that
> as my son is already at eight, reading better then most highschool
> graduates. He qualifies for the "gifted" program but the teachercurently,
> was a nasty woman. I have given him freedom to learn what he loves
> and he is growing by leaps and bounds. I will still have to have
> him do the stupid FCAT (it really is a poor test) or have an
> evaluator come in for a yearly report of his progress. So
> I'm just saving ALL his projects, pictures, stories and games hehas
> created.as
> > If he gets a good evaluation or good score on the FCAT (or
> similiar test) I don't think they will bother to look further. So
> on that note, I guess I'm not completely free to totally unschool
> I'll need to show proof.things done faster.
> >
> >
> > Deb Lewis <d.lewis@> wrote:
> > ***Wow. I need to do some research. My county states I
> need to keep and have
> > available for review, the teacher manuals I use plus samples of
> the students
> > work.***
> >
> > What state are you in?
> > (I'm in a state of confusion <snort>)
> >
> > Deb Lewis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> call rates.
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Burton Bunch
*****However, I do know that there are
some unschooling families in Idaho. They don't speak up much on any
chatlists and I don't know of an Unschooling group.*****
I'm in Idaho and drive a vehicle with seven unschooling bumper stickers
proudly displayed....we are in town regularly in our tie dye L&L
shirts....nobody hiding out here and we have no problem in discussing
our lifestyle with anyone who asks.
Jin ~ hanging out side by side with ds 15 - tie dye shirts currently on
the spin cycle <g>
Find me on MySpace and be my friend! <http://www.myspace.com/halfmoonmama>
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some unschooling families in Idaho. They don't speak up much on any
chatlists and I don't know of an Unschooling group.*****
I'm in Idaho and drive a vehicle with seven unschooling bumper stickers
proudly displayed....we are in town regularly in our tie dye L&L
shirts....nobody hiding out here and we have no problem in discussing
our lifestyle with anyone who asks.
Jin ~ hanging out side by side with ds 15 - tie dye shirts currently on
the spin cycle <g>
>--
>
Find me on MySpace and be my friend! <http://www.myspace.com/halfmoonmama>
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Alice
--- In [email protected], "Beth Mouser" <mouser4@...>
wrote:
of an
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthIdahoUnschoolers/
There are probably more unschoolers than you think. Why don't you
start a local Unschooling group for your area? You may be surpised
who comes out of the woodwork! Many people who joined the above group
were quietly hanging out in the big School-At-Home Religious
Homeschooler organization up here and were very greatful to finally
have a place they could call home. :)
-Alice
wrote:
> However, I do know that there are some unschooling families inIdaho. > They don't speak up much on any chatlists and I don't know
of an
> Unschooling group.Check out North Idaho Unschoolers:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthIdahoUnschoolers/
There are probably more unschoolers than you think. Why don't you
start a local Unschooling group for your area? You may be surpised
who comes out of the woodwork! Many people who joined the above group
were quietly hanging out in the big School-At-Home Religious
Homeschooler organization up here and were very greatful to finally
have a place they could call home. :)
-Alice