Help with teaching time
Tommy
I am new to unschooling and did start the year with some BJU reading and english but have been teaching my 7 yo who is very interested in cooking but has yet to master telling time I have had her help me every day with cooking but I never measure things like spices but have taught her the cups and spoons but was wondering how to get her more able to tell time she is doing so well with everything but I am stuck on what else to do to make it fun because I am teaching her life skills and time is important even though I never have enough LOL
GracieAnn
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GracieAnn
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marji
Hi, GracieAnn,
Time is a funny thing. It's a human invention, and in the wonderful
world of childhood, it's all but irrelevant. Because unschooling is
totally about trust, can you develop trust that your daughter will
learn about time from living through time? For my now-11-year-old
son, the concept of time was not relevant until he wanted to know
what time it was so he wouldn't miss a particular TV show he was
interested in or if there was someplace we had to be that he was very
interested in. But, as a younger kid, (maybe 7 or 8 and younger) he
came up with a great term (which he doesn't use anymore :-(
): "Nexterday." He had absolutely *no* concept of time, and it
didn't bother him (or me) at all! What did he need time for
anyway?! I knew that when it became important in his life, that
would be the time when he would gain the understanding of it. And he
has! Here's a great example:
I use a 24-hour clock on my computer because of the work I do. One
day when he was about 10 years old he said to me: "Oh! I get
it! If you subtract 12 from that number, you'll get what the time
is!" My computer clock at the time said it was 20:15. He figured
out that it was actually 8:15 p.m. I had never even explained it to
him!!! He just puzzled it out (for who knows how long!) and came to
that understanding entirely on his own! Perhaps, if I had labored to
explain it to him, he still might not grasp it (it certainly took me
a lot longer than that to understand the 24-hour clock!).
Reading an analog clock can be very tricky for kids, but I remember
when he puzzled that out, too! We had gotten him a big wall clock
without a battery in it and didn't mount it on the wall so he could
play with it. Or not. Totally up to him. But, he did play with it
'cause *he* wanted to, and he eventually figured out what it all
meant. It's his preference to use a digital clock, but his
understanding of the way an analog clock works (which is a graphic
demonstration of how time moves) is his own.
If you're willing to embrace unschooling, try to let go of the idea
that you have to "teach" her anything about time! Time is swirling
around her always, and she'll grasp it when *she* needs to ~~ and/or
she'll ask for your help. Give her your help freely and watch what happens!!
I hope that helps!
~Marji
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Marji
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Time is a funny thing. It's a human invention, and in the wonderful
world of childhood, it's all but irrelevant. Because unschooling is
totally about trust, can you develop trust that your daughter will
learn about time from living through time? For my now-11-year-old
son, the concept of time was not relevant until he wanted to know
what time it was so he wouldn't miss a particular TV show he was
interested in or if there was someplace we had to be that he was very
interested in. But, as a younger kid, (maybe 7 or 8 and younger) he
came up with a great term (which he doesn't use anymore :-(
): "Nexterday." He had absolutely *no* concept of time, and it
didn't bother him (or me) at all! What did he need time for
anyway?! I knew that when it became important in his life, that
would be the time when he would gain the understanding of it. And he
has! Here's a great example:
I use a 24-hour clock on my computer because of the work I do. One
day when he was about 10 years old he said to me: "Oh! I get
it! If you subtract 12 from that number, you'll get what the time
is!" My computer clock at the time said it was 20:15. He figured
out that it was actually 8:15 p.m. I had never even explained it to
him!!! He just puzzled it out (for who knows how long!) and came to
that understanding entirely on his own! Perhaps, if I had labored to
explain it to him, he still might not grasp it (it certainly took me
a lot longer than that to understand the 24-hour clock!).
Reading an analog clock can be very tricky for kids, but I remember
when he puzzled that out, too! We had gotten him a big wall clock
without a battery in it and didn't mount it on the wall so he could
play with it. Or not. Totally up to him. But, he did play with it
'cause *he* wanted to, and he eventually figured out what it all
meant. It's his preference to use a digital clock, but his
understanding of the way an analog clock works (which is a graphic
demonstration of how time moves) is his own.
If you're willing to embrace unschooling, try to let go of the idea
that you have to "teach" her anything about time! Time is swirling
around her always, and she'll grasp it when *she* needs to ~~ and/or
she'll ask for your help. Give her your help freely and watch what happens!!
I hope that helps!
~Marji
At 16:34 10/2/2006, you wrote:
>I am new to unschooling and did start the year with some BJU reading_.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._
>and english but have been teaching my 7 yo who is very interested in
>cooking but has yet to master telling time ...
Marji
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Melissa
Eh...much to my husbands chagrin....I never use the clock. I don't
even use it when I cook. I will say that seven is young for telling
time beyond hour and half hour. Most cooks I know don't use clocks
per se, but timers (which I don't use either, I'm rather the kind to
pull it out when it looks done or smells too good to wait any longer)
With my kids, I think they've just picked it up over time when I've
said, we'll need to leave at 6:30 to get there on time, and then they
watch the clock. Or if a friend is coming over they ask over and over
"What time is it?" At that point it's important to them to know time.
Rachel just asked for a new watch. She can't tell time, but it was
important to her. My mom told me when I was about her age, I could
have one AFTER I learned to tell time. All that did was break my
heart. And make me feel bad.
Just keep using time in your life. She'll pick it up soon enough.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (9), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (5), Dan
(3), and Avari Rose
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even use it when I cook. I will say that seven is young for telling
time beyond hour and half hour. Most cooks I know don't use clocks
per se, but timers (which I don't use either, I'm rather the kind to
pull it out when it looks done or smells too good to wait any longer)
With my kids, I think they've just picked it up over time when I've
said, we'll need to leave at 6:30 to get there on time, and then they
watch the clock. Or if a friend is coming over they ask over and over
"What time is it?" At that point it's important to them to know time.
Rachel just asked for a new watch. She can't tell time, but it was
important to her. My mom told me when I was about her age, I could
have one AFTER I learned to tell time. All that did was break my
heart. And make me feel bad.
Just keep using time in your life. She'll pick it up soon enough.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (9), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (5), Dan
(3), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
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On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Tommy wrote:
> I am new to unschooling and did start the year with some BJU
> reading and english but have been teaching my 7 yo who is very
> interested in cooking but has yet to master telling time I have had
> her help me every day with cooking but I never measure things like
> spices but have taught her the cups and spoons but was wondering
> how to get her more able to tell time she is doing so well with
> everything but I am stuck on what else to do to make it fun because
> I am teaching her life skills and time is important even though I
> never have enough LOL
>
> GracieAnn
>
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>
>
>
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Michelle Leifur Reid
On 10/2/06, Tommy <tommyhawk41256@...> wrote:
:) Get her a watch that is digital as well. I don't worry about
clocks. They are fairly easy to figure out once you understand the
passage of time. Let her be 7 and not worry about being able to read
an analog clock. If she asks what time it is tell her. The "telling
of time" will come later.
Michelle - who actually loves analog time pieces and sundials
> I am new to unschooling and did start the year with some BJU reading and english but have been teaching my 7 yo who is very interested in cooking but has yet to master telling timeGet digital clocks. Analog clocks will make sense in their own time.
:) Get her a watch that is digital as well. I don't worry about
clocks. They are fairly easy to figure out once you understand the
passage of time. Let her be 7 and not worry about being able to read
an analog clock. If she asks what time it is tell her. The "telling
of time" will come later.
Michelle - who actually loves analog time pieces and sundials
Tommy
Marji,
Thank you yes she is very interested because of cooking and baking she wants to do it on her own with out a timer like
" mommy does" so I was trying to help her add 30 minutes to the time it is easier when the time is on the hour because that is easier for her but she is a very independant child and wants to know everything she has always asked questions with me and we are very up front with her
GracieAnn
Thank you yes she is very interested because of cooking and baking she wants to do it on her own with out a timer like
" mommy does" so I was trying to help her add 30 minutes to the time it is easier when the time is on the hour because that is easier for her but she is a very independant child and wants to know everything she has always asked questions with me and we are very up front with her
GracieAnn
----- Original Message -----
From: marji
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Help with teaching time
Hi, GracieAnn,
Time is a funny thing. It's a human invention, and in the wonderful
world of childhood, it's all but irrelevant. Because unschooling is
totally about trust, can you develop trust that your daughter will
learn about time from living through time? For my now-11-year-old
son, the concept of time was not relevant until he wanted to know
what time it was so he wouldn't miss a particular TV show he was
interested in or if there was someplace we had to be that he was very
interested in. But, as a younger kid, (maybe 7 or 8 and younger) he
came up with a great term (which he doesn't use anymore :-(
): "Nexterday." He had absolutely *no* concept of time, and it
didn't bother him (or me) at all! What did he need time for
anyway?! I knew that when it became important in his life, that
would be the time when he would gain the understanding of it. And he
has! Here's a great example:
I use a 24-hour clock on my computer because of the work I do. One
day when he was about 10 years old he said to me: "Oh! I get
it! If you subtract 12 from that number, you'll get what the time
is!" My computer clock at the time said it was 20:15. He figured
out that it was actually 8:15 p.m. I had never even explained it to
him!!! He just puzzled it out (for who knows how long!) and came to
that understanding entirely on his own! Perhaps, if I had labored to
explain it to him, he still might not grasp it (it certainly took me
a lot longer than that to understand the 24-hour clock!).
Reading an analog clock can be very tricky for kids, but I remember
when he puzzled that out, too! We had gotten him a big wall clock
without a battery in it and didn't mount it on the wall so he could
play with it. Or not. Totally up to him. But, he did play with it
'cause *he* wanted to, and he eventually figured out what it all
meant. It's his preference to use a digital clock, but his
understanding of the way an analog clock works (which is a graphic
demonstration of how time moves) is his own.
If you're willing to embrace unschooling, try to let go of the idea
that you have to "teach" her anything about time! Time is swirling
around her always, and she'll grasp it when *she* needs to ~~ and/or
she'll ask for your help. Give her your help freely and watch what happens!!
I hope that helps!
~Marji
At 16:34 10/2/2006, you wrote:
>I am new to unschooling and did start the year with some BJU reading
>and english but have been teaching my 7 yo who is very interested in
>cooking but has yet to master telling time ...
_.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._
Marji
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women created for men."
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Tommy
Melissa,
Thank you so much I don't either but like I said to marji she is independant and wants to know everything NOW
GracieAnn
Thank you so much I don't either but like I said to marji she is independant and wants to know everything NOW
GracieAnn
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Help with teaching time
Eh...much to my husbands chagrin....I never use the clock. I don't
even use it when I cook. I will say that seven is young for telling
time beyond hour and half hour. Most cooks I know don't use clocks
per se, but timers (which I don't use either, I'm rather the kind to
pull it out when it looks done or smells too good to wait any longer)
With my kids, I think they've just picked it up over time when I've
said, we'll need to leave at 6:30 to get there on time, and then they
watch the clock. Or if a friend is coming over they ask over and over
"What time is it?" At that point it's important to them to know time.
Rachel just asked for a new watch. She can't tell time, but it was
important to her. My mom told me when I was about her age, I could
have one AFTER I learned to tell time. All that did was break my
heart. And make me feel bad.
Just keep using time in your life. She'll pick it up soon enough.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (9), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (5), Dan
(3), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
http://360.yahoo.com/multimomma
On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Tommy wrote:
> I am new to unschooling and did start the year with some BJU
> reading and english but have been teaching my 7 yo who is very
> interested in cooking but has yet to master telling time I have had
> her help me every day with cooking but I never measure things like
> spices but have taught her the cups and spoons but was wondering
> how to get her more able to tell time she is doing so well with
> everything but I am stuck on what else to do to make it fun because
> I am teaching her life skills and time is important even though I
> never have enough LOL
>
> GracieAnn
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Tommy
Thanks Michelle she is stubborn though so when she wants something she will usually get her way and figure things out
GracieAnn
GracieAnn
----- Original Message -----
From: Michelle Leifur Reid
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Help with teaching time
On 10/2/06, Tommy <tommyhawk41256@...> wrote:
> I am new to unschooling and did start the year with some BJU reading and english but have been teaching my 7 yo who is very interested in cooking but has yet to master telling time
Get digital clocks. Analog clocks will make sense in their own time.
:) Get her a watch that is digital as well. I don't worry about
clocks. They are fairly easy to figure out once you understand the
passage of time. Let her be 7 and not worry about being able to read
an analog clock. If she asks what time it is tell her. The "telling
of time" will come later.
Michelle - who actually loves analog time pieces and sundials
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John and Amanda Slater
Tommy <tommyhawk41256@...> wrote: Marji,
Thank you yes she is very interested because of cooking and baking she wants to do it on her own with out a timer like
" mommy does" so I was trying to help her add 30 minutes to the time it is easier when the time is on the hour because that is easier for her but she is a very independant child and wants to know everything she has always asked questions with me and we are very up front with her.
***How about a play analog clock next to a real one. First turn the hands to match the working one. Next set it ahead the number of minutes you need. First with your help, soon without. Wait for the real clock to match the fake one.
Amanda
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Thank you yes she is very interested because of cooking and baking she wants to do it on her own with out a timer like
" mommy does" so I was trying to help her add 30 minutes to the time it is easier when the time is on the hour because that is easier for her but she is a very independant child and wants to know everything she has always asked questions with me and we are very up front with her.
***How about a play analog clock next to a real one. First turn the hands to match the working one. Next set it ahead the number of minutes you need. First with your help, soon without. Wait for the real clock to match the fake one.
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Tommy
Amanda thank you I never thought of that I bet that would work I could just show her with the real one and then tell her how many "notches" to move the other one so she can match them up thanks a bunch.
GracieAnn
GracieAnn
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Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:27 PM
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Tommy <tommyhawk41256@...> wrote: Marji,
Thank you yes she is very interested because of cooking and baking she wants to do it on her own with out a timer like
" mommy does" so I was trying to help her add 30 minutes to the time it is easier when the time is on the hour because that is easier for her but she is a very independant child and wants to know everything she has always asked questions with me and we are very up front with her.
***How about a play analog clock next to a real one. First turn the hands to match the working one. Next set it ahead the number of minutes you need. First with your help, soon without. Wait for the real clock to match the fake one.
Amanda
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