sunscreen
Ren Allen
" Sunblock is very important, but perhaps
even more so is avoiding the sun at the peak of its intensity (late
morning to mid afternoon). "
Maybe the reason skin cancer is on the rise is because of
sunscreen...ever since it came along, skin cancers have risen
dramatically. Any link? I think so.
I think it gives a false sense of security for one, allows people to
stay in the sun longer than they really should and has a ton of nasty
chemicals of which we don't know the long-term effects. I wear
sunscreen sometimes, but I think it could be a huge cause of the
malignant melanoma's.
In fact, scientists are beginning to realize that sunscreen blocks
burning rays, but still allows cancer causing rays to affect the skin.
New formulas are focused on blocking all of it. Most don't. I
personally think we're better off getting some direct sun because at
least it tends to cause less agressive forms of cancer, where using
sunscreen too much seems to lead to the malignant melanoma's. Still
lots of research needing to be done...but I don't trust a tube of
chemicals to protect me.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
even more so is avoiding the sun at the peak of its intensity (late
morning to mid afternoon). "
Maybe the reason skin cancer is on the rise is because of
sunscreen...ever since it came along, skin cancers have risen
dramatically. Any link? I think so.
I think it gives a false sense of security for one, allows people to
stay in the sun longer than they really should and has a ton of nasty
chemicals of which we don't know the long-term effects. I wear
sunscreen sometimes, but I think it could be a huge cause of the
malignant melanoma's.
In fact, scientists are beginning to realize that sunscreen blocks
burning rays, but still allows cancer causing rays to affect the skin.
New formulas are focused on blocking all of it. Most don't. I
personally think we're better off getting some direct sun because at
least it tends to cause less agressive forms of cancer, where using
sunscreen too much seems to lead to the malignant melanoma's. Still
lots of research needing to be done...but I don't trust a tube of
chemicals to protect me.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
[email protected]
I second that.
We have not been using sunscreen for about a year, and have felt much
happier and healthier. I am pleased to hear others suspect sunscreen in this way.
Now I know of a whopping three people that do not rely on a tube of chemicals.
Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use sunscreen on
yourself or children?
In intense sun, I often wear hats and or a long sleeve shirt. My kids
usually don't. I truly believe they are naturally protected and sense when they
need to be out of the sun.
Beverly, new to the group
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We have not been using sunscreen for about a year, and have felt much
happier and healthier. I am pleased to hear others suspect sunscreen in this way.
Now I know of a whopping three people that do not rely on a tube of chemicals.
Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use sunscreen on
yourself or children?
In intense sun, I often wear hats and or a long sleeve shirt. My kids
usually don't. I truly believe they are naturally protected and sense when they
need to be out of the sun.
Beverly, new to the group
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Ren Allen
Here's a couple commentaries about how sunscreen may be causing
cancer, not preventing it:
http://www.newstarget.com/001264.html (though I disagree that a
"healthy tan" is great...I've seen the effects of long-term exposure
and it's YUCKY)
http://vvv.com/healthnews/dsunscre.html
This one talks about how in countries where sunscreen is heavily
promoted, the malignant melanoma rates are HIGHER! Might wanna
re-think slathering it on your youngun's unless absolutely necessary.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
cancer, not preventing it:
http://www.newstarget.com/001264.html (though I disagree that a
"healthy tan" is great...I've seen the effects of long-term exposure
and it's YUCKY)
http://vvv.com/healthnews/dsunscre.html
This one talks about how in countries where sunscreen is heavily
promoted, the malignant melanoma rates are HIGHER! Might wanna
re-think slathering it on your youngun's unless absolutely necessary.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
camden
***Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use sunscreen on
yourself or children?***
My family also prefers to generally stay away from sunscreen, we like to avoid chemical lotions & sprays.
My kids wear shirts when they swim in the pool mid-day to protect their upper bodies. When they are playing outside and the sun gets to warm for them they come in until it starts to go down. They have pretty much gotten their bodies figured out as to how much sun they can take. We do have sunscreen here as an option for whoever chooses to use it but its basically still full. Sometimes they will ask for some at the beach for their noses, but mostly its hats & sleeves.
I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to commercial bug spray?
Carol
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yourself or children?***
My family also prefers to generally stay away from sunscreen, we like to avoid chemical lotions & sprays.
My kids wear shirts when they swim in the pool mid-day to protect their upper bodies. When they are playing outside and the sun gets to warm for them they come in until it starts to go down. They have pretty much gotten their bodies figured out as to how much sun they can take. We do have sunscreen here as an option for whoever chooses to use it but its basically still full. Sometimes they will ask for some at the beach for their noses, but mostly its hats & sleeves.
I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to commercial bug spray?
Carol
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Tom
Ren Allen wrote:
showing how skin cancer has been increasing, and superimpose it over the
graph showing increase in the use of sunscreens, they match up EXACTLY.
In other word, the more sunscreen people have been using, the more skin
cancer they are getting. So a few years ago some scientists decided to
test the stuff. It turns out that some of the sunscreeen ingredients
become carcinogenic after exposure to the sun. Here are some more links:
http://www.newstarget.com/001264.html
http://www.skinbiology.com/toxicsunscreens.html
http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/medizin_gesundheit/bericht-30865.html
> Here's a couple commentaries about how sunscreen may be causingI was wondering if anybody would mention that. If you take the graph
> cancer, not preventing it:
>
> http://www.newstarget.com/001264.html (though I disagree that a
> "healthy tan" is great...I've seen the effects of long-term exposure
> and it's YUCKY)
>
> http://vvv.com/healthnews/dsunscre.html
>
> This one talks about how in countries where sunscreen is heavily
> promoted, the malignant melanoma rates are HIGHER! Might wanna
> re-think slathering it on your youngun's unless absolutely necessary.
>
> Ren
> learninginfreedom.com
showing how skin cancer has been increasing, and superimpose it over the
graph showing increase in the use of sunscreens, they match up EXACTLY.
In other word, the more sunscreen people have been using, the more skin
cancer they are getting. So a few years ago some scientists decided to
test the stuff. It turns out that some of the sunscreeen ingredients
become carcinogenic after exposure to the sun. Here are some more links:
http://www.newstarget.com/001264.html
http://www.skinbiology.com/toxicsunscreens.html
http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/medizin_gesundheit/bericht-30865.html
camden
~~~I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to commercial bug spray?~~~
That was suppose to be "has" not "as". Guess it was too early to type this morning ;)
Carol
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That was suppose to be "has" not "as". Guess it was too early to type this morning ;)
Carol
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Solé
Do you mean a spray that kills bugs (flying around, stiting on
walls... ) or a spray for the skin to prevent bugs from biting you?
Johanna
Am 20.09.2006 um 14:09 schrieb camden:
walls... ) or a spray for the skin to prevent bugs from biting you?
Johanna
Am 20.09.2006 um 14:09 schrieb camden:
> ~~~I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to commercial
> bug spray?~~~
>
> That was suppose to be "has" not "as". Guess it was too early to
> type this morning ;)
>
> Carol
>
camden
An alternative to a spray or cream that keeps them from biting you.
Carol
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Carol
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/19/2006 11:49:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Armadillo71@... writes:
Now I know of a whopping three people that do not rely on a tube of
chemicals.
Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use sunscreen on
yourself or children?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We use Alba Chemical free sunscreen and UV suits and hats. This past summer,
thanks to recommendations from some folks on this list to consider
alternatives, we used more umbrellas and a UV tent for long beach days. My 9 year old
had 3 moles removed in April that had irregular, changing cells which were
reported as the early stages of skin cancer. We're a bit paranoid and panicked
initially but now, as with most other issues, we realize the importance of
finding solutions outside the box. That is -- ignoring the pressure from corporate
America, sunscreen manufacturers and such. Our doctors and even eye doctors
buy into all the sunscreen hype. That blind following sets off alarms in us.
We question everything and ask for proof of
Peace,
Robin in sunny Cape Cod, MA
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Armadillo71@... writes:
Now I know of a whopping three people that do not rely on a tube of
chemicals.
Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use sunscreen on
yourself or children?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We use Alba Chemical free sunscreen and UV suits and hats. This past summer,
thanks to recommendations from some folks on this list to consider
alternatives, we used more umbrellas and a UV tent for long beach days. My 9 year old
had 3 moles removed in April that had irregular, changing cells which were
reported as the early stages of skin cancer. We're a bit paranoid and panicked
initially but now, as with most other issues, we realize the importance of
finding solutions outside the box. That is -- ignoring the pressure from corporate
America, sunscreen manufacturers and such. Our doctors and even eye doctors
buy into all the sunscreen hype. That blind following sets off alarms in us.
We question everything and ask for proof of
Peace,
Robin in sunny Cape Cod, MA
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[email protected]
We don't rely on sunscreen either. We just hit the pool at 3 or 4, when the
really hot sun is heading west.
If we do use sunscreen, of course we use something like Aubrey Organics Green
Tea Sunscreen.
I've got a friend who's hubby is a chiro and he was saying something about if
you eat 1mg (i think? don't quote me on the exact dose there, please) for
every hour that you are in the sun, you won't burn. I have some friends
who've tried it and swear by it.
Need to research that one a little further.
Oh, and let's not forget the lack of ozone, the naturally occuring protection
from harmful rays, being depleted.
Karen
Quoting "Armadillo71@..." <Armadillo71@...>:
really hot sun is heading west.
If we do use sunscreen, of course we use something like Aubrey Organics Green
Tea Sunscreen.
I've got a friend who's hubby is a chiro and he was saying something about if
you eat 1mg (i think? don't quote me on the exact dose there, please) for
every hour that you are in the sun, you won't burn. I have some friends
who've tried it and swear by it.
Need to research that one a little further.
Oh, and let's not forget the lack of ozone, the naturally occuring protection
from harmful rays, being depleted.
Karen
Quoting "Armadillo71@..." <Armadillo71@...>:
> I second that.
> We have not been using sunscreen for about a year, and have felt much
> happier and healthier. I am pleased to hear others suspect sunscreen in this
> way.
> Now I know of a whopping three people that do not rely on a tube of
> chemicals.
> Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use sunscreen on
> yourself or children?
> In intense sun, I often wear hats and or a long sleeve shirt. My kids
> usually don't. I truly believe they are naturally protected and sense when
> they
> need to be out of the sun.
> Beverly, new to the group
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
kaikade
My hubby still uses it on his bald head. He is far less alternative
than I choose to be. The kids and I rarely use it and only do so if
we are to be in the sun all day. We spent at least 3 days a week at
the pool during the summer and never burned. I have a naked boy who
likes to play outside all the time with no clothes on and an older
boy who loves to go shirtless. Neither has burned since babyhood -
when we took care not to have them exposed too much. When we do
apply sunscreen, we apply regular lotion first so the sunscreen
stays on top and doesn't absorb as much.
Also, we buy the insect spray or lotion from the health food store.
I use a lot of essential oils for the after bites, if they get them.
Ginger
--- In [email protected], "camden" <ccoutlaw@...>
wrote:
to warm for them they come in until it starts to go down. They have
pretty much gotten their bodies figured out as to how much sun they
can take. We do have sunscreen here as an option for whoever chooses
to use it but its basically still full. Sometimes they will ask for
some at the beach for their noses, but mostly its hats & sleeves.
than I choose to be. The kids and I rarely use it and only do so if
we are to be in the sun all day. We spent at least 3 days a week at
the pool during the summer and never burned. I have a naked boy who
likes to play outside all the time with no clothes on and an older
boy who loves to go shirtless. Neither has burned since babyhood -
when we took care not to have them exposed too much. When we do
apply sunscreen, we apply regular lotion first so the sunscreen
stays on top and doesn't absorb as much.
Also, we buy the insect spray or lotion from the health food store.
I use a lot of essential oils for the after bites, if they get them.
Ginger
--- In [email protected], "camden" <ccoutlaw@...>
wrote:
>sunscreen on
> ***Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use
> yourself or children?***like to avoid chemical lotions & sprays.
>
> My family also prefers to generally stay away from sunscreen, we
>their upper bodies. When they are playing outside and the sun gets
> My kids wear shirts when they swim in the pool mid-day to protect
to warm for them they come in until it starts to go down. They have
pretty much gotten their bodies figured out as to how much sun they
can take. We do have sunscreen here as an option for whoever chooses
to use it but its basically still full. Sometimes they will ask for
some at the beach for their noses, but mostly its hats & sleeves.
>bug spray?
> I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to commercial
>
> Carol
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
kaikade
1mg of ?
Thanks!
Ginger
Thanks!
Ginger
--- In [email protected], buxcel@... wrote:
>
> We don't rely on sunscreen either. We just hit the pool at 3 or
4, when the
> really hot sun is heading west.
> If we do use sunscreen, of course we use something like Aubrey
Organics Green
> Tea Sunscreen.
> I've got a friend who's hubby is a chiro and he was saying
something about if
> you eat 1mg (i think? don't quote me on the exact dose there,
please) for
> every hour that you are in the sun, you won't burn. I have some
friends
> who've tried it and swear by it.
> Need to research that one a little further.
> Oh, and let's not forget the lack of ozone, the naturally occuring
protection
> from harmful rays, being depleted.
>
> Karen
>
> Quoting "Armadillo71@..." <Armadillo71@...>:
>
> > I second that.
> > We have not been using sunscreen for about a year, and have felt
much
> > happier and healthier. I am pleased to hear others suspect
sunscreen in this
> > way.
> > Now I know of a whopping three people that do not rely on a
tube of
> > chemicals.
> > Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use
sunscreen on
> > yourself or children?
> > In intense sun, I often wear hats and or a long sleeve shirt.
My kids
> > usually don't. I truly believe they are naturally protected and
sense when
> > they
> > need to be out of the sun.
> > Beverly, new to the group
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Cara
> ***Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to usesunscreen on yourself or children?***
We avoid sunscreen and the sun during the hottest times of day. I
don't use commercial sunscreen because of all the chemicals in it. I
also don't put it on my kids. We just go out early in the morning or
later in the afternoon.
Cara :)
Cara
> An alternative to a spray or cream that keeps them from biting you.How about this? I have it in my recipe file as something to try but
haven't yet.
Bug Be Gone Spray -
2 c. witch hazel
1 1/2 t. citronella essential oil
1 T. apple cider vinegar
Combine into a 16 oz spray bottle. Shake vigorously before using.
Requires no refrigeration. Apply liberally.
Cara :)
Ren Allen
"I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to commercial bug
spray?"
Lotsa good alternatives!! We have one that's been working really well,
it's a bit oily but totally natural and safe. Bought it through an
organic food coop but don't know where it is right now...I'll look and
give you the name. Check with any health food store, they should have
some alternatives.
You could probably make a good homemade one with citronella extract I
imagine.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
spray?"
Lotsa good alternatives!! We have one that's been working really well,
it's a bit oily but totally natural and safe. Bought it through an
organic food coop but don't know where it is right now...I'll look and
give you the name. Check with any health food store, they should have
some alternatives.
You could probably make a good homemade one with citronella extract I
imagine.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
Ren Allen
"Oh, and let's not forget the lack of ozone, the naturally occuring
protection from harmful rays, being depleted."
Yes, but thus far, it's only at the poles that there is drastic
change. Worldwide, it hasn't changed that much.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
protection from harmful rays, being depleted."
Yes, but thus far, it's only at the poles that there is drastic
change. Worldwide, it hasn't changed that much.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
Chip And Cathy Craven
"This one talks about how in countries where sunscreen is heavily
promoted, the malignant melanoma rates are HIGHER! Might wanna
re-think slathering it on your youngun's unless absolutely necessary."
Yes, I have read this, too. It seems that the culprit may be *chemical* sunscreens that somehow react w/ the skin in a harmful way. We avoid those and use "natural" sunscreens that contain physical blocks. I also wear a wide-brimmed hat and clothing to protect myself if I can't avoid being in the sun during the peak hours. My older children choose not to wear sunscreen much of the time (my younger ones don't seem to mind it), but they are rarely in the sun to the extent that they get burned (or even very tanned). However, my teenage son went tubing w/ some friends last summer, didn't wear sunscreen or a shirt and ended up w/ a blistering burn on his back and shoulders that was very painful. He's more careful now because of that experience.
I also do believe that people are duped into thinking that they are safe from any harmful effects from the sun as long as they are wearing sunscreen. I think people naturally assume that they can be outside for as long as they'd like even when the rays are strongest (and that they are in Australia!) -- just slather on the sunscreen and everything's a-okay. Not true. I wonder how that phenomenon comes into play with respect to the increase in skin cancer.
Cathy
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promoted, the malignant melanoma rates are HIGHER! Might wanna
re-think slathering it on your youngun's unless absolutely necessary."
Yes, I have read this, too. It seems that the culprit may be *chemical* sunscreens that somehow react w/ the skin in a harmful way. We avoid those and use "natural" sunscreens that contain physical blocks. I also wear a wide-brimmed hat and clothing to protect myself if I can't avoid being in the sun during the peak hours. My older children choose not to wear sunscreen much of the time (my younger ones don't seem to mind it), but they are rarely in the sun to the extent that they get burned (or even very tanned). However, my teenage son went tubing w/ some friends last summer, didn't wear sunscreen or a shirt and ended up w/ a blistering burn on his back and shoulders that was very painful. He's more careful now because of that experience.
I also do believe that people are duped into thinking that they are safe from any harmful effects from the sun as long as they are wearing sunscreen. I think people naturally assume that they can be outside for as long as they'd like even when the rays are strongest (and that they are in Australia!) -- just slather on the sunscreen and everything's a-okay. Not true. I wonder how that phenomenon comes into play with respect to the increase in skin cancer.
Cathy
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Michelle Leifur Reid
On 9/20/06, Ren Allen <starsuncloud@...> wrote:
melanoma in my family) and while I'm too brain dead right now to find
articles, I do remember reading that they say that these studies are
flawed in that they don't take into consideration time spent in the
sun. While people may be putting on sunscreen and having higher rates
of skin cancer, it may be more from people believing that they are
completely protected and thus exposing themselves to the sun more than
people who do not use sun screens. Other factors that are not
considered are whether the regions in the study are people who are
naturally less prone (although not immune) from skin cancer to begin
with. As mentioned in another post, people with darker skin have a
lesser rate of skin cancer.
Michelle the Fair who will continue to protect her skin as best she can
> This one talks about how in countries where sunscreen is heavilyI've done some reading on this (a lot actually since I do have
> promoted, the malignant melanoma rates are HIGHER! Might wanna
> re-think slathering it on your youngun's unless absolutely necessary.
>
melanoma in my family) and while I'm too brain dead right now to find
articles, I do remember reading that they say that these studies are
flawed in that they don't take into consideration time spent in the
sun. While people may be putting on sunscreen and having higher rates
of skin cancer, it may be more from people believing that they are
completely protected and thus exposing themselves to the sun more than
people who do not use sun screens. Other factors that are not
considered are whether the regions in the study are people who are
naturally less prone (although not immune) from skin cancer to begin
with. As mentioned in another post, people with darker skin have a
lesser rate of skin cancer.
Michelle the Fair who will continue to protect her skin as best she can
Teresa Sittler
We use vick's vapo rub. Only thing is, once it evaporates it stops working.
Teresa
Cara <casonnier@...> wrote:
haven't yet.
Bug Be Gone Spray -
2 c. witch hazel
1 1/2 t. citronella essential oil
1 T. apple cider vinegar
Combine into a 16 oz spray bottle. Shake vigorously before using.
Requires no refrigeration. Apply liberally.
Cara :)
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Teresa
Cara <casonnier@...> wrote:
> An alternative to a spray or cream that keeps them from biting you.How about this? I have it in my recipe file as something to try but
haven't yet.
Bug Be Gone Spray -
2 c. witch hazel
1 1/2 t. citronella essential oil
1 T. apple cider vinegar
Combine into a 16 oz spray bottle. Shake vigorously before using.
Requires no refrigeration. Apply liberally.
Cara :)
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In a message dated 9/20/2006 8:23:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ccoutlaw@... writes:
I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to commercial bug spray?~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Burt's Bees Lemongrass spray and Kiss My Face Swy Flotter both work well
around here where the mosquitos can carry one away. My personal favorite bug
repellent is Neem Aura Incense. They smell great and eliminate the need for bug
sprays. Smoke generally works so bonfires and other smoking things repel
insects.
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ccoutlaw@... writes:
I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to commercial bug spray?~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Burt's Bees Lemongrass spray and Kiss My Face Swy Flotter both work well
around here where the mosquitos can carry one away. My personal favorite bug
repellent is Neem Aura Incense. They smell great and eliminate the need for bug
sprays. Smoke generally works so bonfires and other smoking things repel
insects.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Schafer Vanessa
Hi,
We don't use sun screen alot, but when we do, we use
water babies spf 40 or 50. We are headed to Florida
in February, and because it gets hot, and we will be
at the parks all day, we will be using it then. Me
and my kids have to use something that is good for
sensitive skin, especially since we are so fair
skinned, and when I do burn, I get water blisters,
peel, and scab.
--Vanessa
--- buxcel@... wrote:
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We don't use sun screen alot, but when we do, we use
water babies spf 40 or 50. We are headed to Florida
in February, and because it gets hot, and we will be
at the parks all day, we will be using it then. Me
and my kids have to use something that is good for
sensitive skin, especially since we are so fair
skinned, and when I do burn, I get water blisters,
peel, and scab.
--Vanessa
--- buxcel@... wrote:
> We don't rely on sunscreen either. We just hit the__________________________________________________
> pool at 3 or 4, when the
> really hot sun is heading west.
> If we do use sunscreen, of course we use something
> like Aubrey Organics Green
> Tea Sunscreen.
> I've got a friend who's hubby is a chiro and he was
> saying something about if
> you eat 1mg (i think? don't quote me on the exact
> dose there, please) for
> every hour that you are in the sun, you won't burn.
> I have some friends
> who've tried it and swear by it.
> Need to research that one a little further.
> Oh, and let's not forget the lack of ozone, the
> naturally occuring protection
> from harmful rays, being depleted.
>
> Karen
>
> Quoting "Armadillo71@..." <Armadillo71@...>:
>
> > I second that.
> > We have not been using sunscreen for about a year,
> and have felt much
> > happier and healthier. I am pleased to hear others
> suspect sunscreen in this
> > way.
> > Now I know of a whopping three people that do not
> rely on a tube of
> > chemicals.
> > Are there more of you on this list that prefer not
> to use sunscreen on
> > yourself or children?
> > In intense sun, I often wear hats and or a long
> sleeve shirt. My kids
> > usually don't. I truly believe they are naturally
> protected and sense when
> > they
> > need to be out of the sun.
> > Beverly, new to the group
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Schafer Vanessa
Where do you get this stuff? I hate bug sprays, and
am super careful with the kids. I tend to swell from
mosquito bites, and so do my kids. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks---
---Vanessa
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am super careful with the kids. I tend to swell from
mosquito bites, and so do my kids. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks---
---Vanessa
--- ohpurple1@... wrote:
> In a message dated 9/20/2006 8:23:23 AM Eastern__________________________________________________
> Standard Time,
> ccoutlaw@... writes:
> I'd like to know if anyone here as an alternative to
> commercial bug spray?~~~
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Burt's Bees Lemongrass spray and Kiss My Face Swy
> Flotter both work well
> around here where the mosquitos can carry one away.
> My personal favorite bug
> repellent is Neem Aura Incense. They smell great
> and eliminate the need for bug
> sprays. Smoke generally works so bonfires and other
> smoking things repel
> insects.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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Chip And Cathy Craven
I have read studies that indicate lemon and eucalyptus essential oils are as effective as DEET in keeping mosquitoes away. I mix those oils w/ distilled water in a spray bottle and apply vigorously if we are to be outside during early morning (yeah, right!!! ;-) or evening hours. There have been several cases of West Nile Virus and EEE in our state (New Hampshire) recently, so I do feel it's important to take reasonable precautions. We try to stay indoors if the mosquitoes are bad, but my son plays soccer and the games will sometimes go until dusk.
Cathy
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Cathy
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Michelle Leifur Reid
On 9/20/06, Schafer Vanessa <psychomom95@...> wrote:
not 100%! (Oh and we have also been to Orlando in January and gone
swimming LOL!) We usually only use sunscreen in the parks if we are
wearing sleevless shirts and then just on the tops of our shoulders.
We *always* wear brimmed hats because the sun can be blinding. While
it also saves our noses from being burned, it also helps cut the glare
from the sun. We tend to only swim in the pools at night, so that is
rarely an issue of needing sunscreen. :)
Michelle - resident Disney guru
> Hi,We've been to Orlando in February and froze our tushies off, so it's
>
> We don't use sun screen alot, but when we do, we use
> water babies spf 40 or 50. We are headed to Florida
> in February, and because it gets hot, and we will be
> at the parks all day, we will be using it then.
not 100%! (Oh and we have also been to Orlando in January and gone
swimming LOL!) We usually only use sunscreen in the parks if we are
wearing sleevless shirts and then just on the tops of our shoulders.
We *always* wear brimmed hats because the sun can be blinding. While
it also saves our noses from being burned, it also helps cut the glare
from the sun. We tend to only swim in the pools at night, so that is
rarely an issue of needing sunscreen. :)
Michelle - resident Disney guru
Lesa
Well, that really sucks! I figured that maybe it was because with sunscreen
that people felt safer staying in the sun longer so they were getting more
exposure anyway... but the fact that the sunscreen is a problem... well,
that just sucks.
Lesa
-------Original Message-------
From: Tom
Date: 09/20/06 09:22:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] sunscreen
Ren Allen wrote:
showing how skin cancer has been increasing, and superimpose it over the
graph showing increase in the use of sunscreens, they match up EXACTLY.
In other word, the more sunscreen people have been using, the more skin
cancer they are getting. So a few years ago some scientists decided to
test the stuff. It turns out that some of the sunscreeen ingredients
become carcinogenic after exposure to the sun. Here are some more links:
http://www.newstarget.com/001264.html
http://www.skinbiology.com/toxicsunscreens.html
http://www.innovations-report
de/html/berichte/medizin_gesundheit/bericht-30865.html
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that people felt safer staying in the sun longer so they were getting more
exposure anyway... but the fact that the sunscreen is a problem... well,
that just sucks.
Lesa
-------Original Message-------
From: Tom
Date: 09/20/06 09:22:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] sunscreen
Ren Allen wrote:
> Here's a couple commentaries about how sunscreen may be causingI was wondering if anybody would mention that. If you take the graph
> cancer, not preventing it:
>
> http://www.newstarget.com/001264.html (though I disagree that a
> "healthy tan" is great...I've seen the effects of long-term exposure
> and it's YUCKY)
>
> http://vvv.com/healthnews/dsunscre.html
>
> This one talks about how in countries where sunscreen is heavily
> promoted, the malignant melanoma rates are HIGHER! Might wanna
> re-think slathering it on your youngun's unless absolutely necessary.
>
> Ren
> learninginfreedom.com
showing how skin cancer has been increasing, and superimpose it over the
graph showing increase in the use of sunscreens, they match up EXACTLY.
In other word, the more sunscreen people have been using, the more skin
cancer they are getting. So a few years ago some scientists decided to
test the stuff. It turns out that some of the sunscreeen ingredients
become carcinogenic after exposure to the sun. Here are some more links:
http://www.newstarget.com/001264.html
http://www.skinbiology.com/toxicsunscreens.html
http://www.innovations-report
de/html/berichte/medizin_gesundheit/bericht-30865.html
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Laureen
Heya!
This is totally out there and off topic, but...
This is totally out there and off topic, but...
On 9/19/06, Armadillo71@... <Armadillo71@...> wrote:
> Now I know of a whopping three people that do not rely on a tube of chemicals.
> Are there more of you on this list that prefer not to use sunscreen on
> yourself or children?
...it depends on what I've been eating. No joke. We're transitioning
to a raw diet, with sporadic plunges off the wagon. =) And when we are
fully raw, we don't burn. Period. We spent an entire day at a boat
show, so walking around boats on the water, and still, not one of us
so much as pinked up. This is something that a lot of the raw food
folks we know also report.
However, if we've been eating a lot of prepackaged, take-out, or
cooked whatever, we do burn. Thoroughly. So out comes the Alba Kids'
sunscreen, the shirts and hats and glasses.
--
~~L!
http://elementalmom.blogspot.com/
Lesa
I think you're right, Ren. Even with sunscreen on (at the beach, on
vacation) I still find the shady spots and hang out there (and we always
take our floppy hats to the beach to protect ourselves, for our eyes and our
head... and it helps to keep the headaches away, too). I haven't purposely
laid out and tanned since I was in Junior High (probably 7th or 8th grade)
and I'm 31 now. I try to get some sunlight because we all need that (I
especially need it in the winter time because I deal with seasonal
depression... I have a special light box for winter when the sunlight doesn
t happen much) but direct sunlight in the heat of summer gives me a
throbbing headache... and I like my milky white skin (it's a much better
canvas for tattoos).
Anyhow... I don't force my DD to wear sunscreen... usually if we're going to
be in the sun, it's not going to be for any long period of time. So it's
more trouble then it's worth to put it on. And I have heard that not all
sunscreens protect from the cancer causing rays. My sister has more info on
this... I guess I'll have to hit her up for more info... she had some
special sunscreen last time we were down in FL visiting.
I'm more concerned about the damage to our eyes, since the eyes don't have
built in protection. Especially for my DD, who has trouble finding
sunglasses that work for her.
Lesa
http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
-------Original Message-------
From: Ren Allen
Date: 09/19/06 21:26:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] sunscreen
" Sunblock is very important, but perhaps
even more so is avoiding the sun at the peak of its intensity (late
morning to mid afternoon). "
Maybe the reason skin cancer is on the rise is because of
sunscreen...ever since it came along, skin cancers have risen
dramatically. Any link? I think so.
I think it gives a false sense of security for one, allows people to
stay in the sun longer than they really should and has a ton of nasty
chemicals of which we don't know the long-term effects. I wear
sunscreen sometimes, but I think it could be a huge cause of the
malignant melanoma's.
In fact, scientists are beginning to realize that sunscreen blocks
burning rays, but still allows cancer causing rays to affect the skin.
New formulas are focused on blocking all of it. Most don't. I
personally think we're better off getting some direct sun because at
least it tends to cause less agressive forms of cancer, where using
sunscreen too much seems to lead to the malignant melanoma's. Still
lots of research needing to be done...but I don't trust a tube of
chemicals to protect me.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
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vacation) I still find the shady spots and hang out there (and we always
take our floppy hats to the beach to protect ourselves, for our eyes and our
head... and it helps to keep the headaches away, too). I haven't purposely
laid out and tanned since I was in Junior High (probably 7th or 8th grade)
and I'm 31 now. I try to get some sunlight because we all need that (I
especially need it in the winter time because I deal with seasonal
depression... I have a special light box for winter when the sunlight doesn
t happen much) but direct sunlight in the heat of summer gives me a
throbbing headache... and I like my milky white skin (it's a much better
canvas for tattoos).
Anyhow... I don't force my DD to wear sunscreen... usually if we're going to
be in the sun, it's not going to be for any long period of time. So it's
more trouble then it's worth to put it on. And I have heard that not all
sunscreens protect from the cancer causing rays. My sister has more info on
this... I guess I'll have to hit her up for more info... she had some
special sunscreen last time we were down in FL visiting.
I'm more concerned about the damage to our eyes, since the eyes don't have
built in protection. Especially for my DD, who has trouble finding
sunglasses that work for her.
Lesa
http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
-------Original Message-------
From: Ren Allen
Date: 09/19/06 21:26:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] sunscreen
" Sunblock is very important, but perhaps
even more so is avoiding the sun at the peak of its intensity (late
morning to mid afternoon). "
Maybe the reason skin cancer is on the rise is because of
sunscreen...ever since it came along, skin cancers have risen
dramatically. Any link? I think so.
I think it gives a false sense of security for one, allows people to
stay in the sun longer than they really should and has a ton of nasty
chemicals of which we don't know the long-term effects. I wear
sunscreen sometimes, but I think it could be a huge cause of the
malignant melanoma's.
In fact, scientists are beginning to realize that sunscreen blocks
burning rays, but still allows cancer causing rays to affect the skin.
New formulas are focused on blocking all of it. Most don't. I
personally think we're better off getting some direct sun because at
least it tends to cause less agressive forms of cancer, where using
sunscreen too much seems to lead to the malignant melanoma's. Still
lots of research needing to be done...but I don't trust a tube of
chemicals to protect me.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
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Lesa
I do not use bug spray... because of the chemicals... but I do have some
homemade stuff... I'll go grab it and tell you what's in it. Here it is:
Fractionated Coconut Oil, Citronella, Eucalyptus, Peppermint, and Lavender
Essential Oils. I'm sure you could find a recipe online for the exact
amounts of oils... I got mine from a friend in FL who's brother and SIL have
a natural health shop.
Lesa
http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
-------Original Message-------
From: Chip And Cathy Craven
Date: 09/20/06 11:22:28
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: alternative bug spray
I have read studies that indicate lemon and eucalyptus essential oils are as
effective as DEET in keeping mosquitoes away. I mix those oils w/ distilled
water in a spray bottle and apply vigorously if we are to be outside during
early morning (yeah, right!!! ;-) or evening hours. There have been several
cases of West Nile Virus and EEE in our state (New Hampshire) recently, so I
do feel it's important to take reasonable precautions. We try to stay
indoors if the mosquitoes are bad, but my son plays soccer and the games
will sometimes go until dusk.
Cathy
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
homemade stuff... I'll go grab it and tell you what's in it. Here it is:
Fractionated Coconut Oil, Citronella, Eucalyptus, Peppermint, and Lavender
Essential Oils. I'm sure you could find a recipe online for the exact
amounts of oils... I got mine from a friend in FL who's brother and SIL have
a natural health shop.
Lesa
http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
-------Original Message-------
From: Chip And Cathy Craven
Date: 09/20/06 11:22:28
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: alternative bug spray
I have read studies that indicate lemon and eucalyptus essential oils are as
effective as DEET in keeping mosquitoes away. I mix those oils w/ distilled
water in a spray bottle and apply vigorously if we are to be outside during
early morning (yeah, right!!! ;-) or evening hours. There have been several
cases of West Nile Virus and EEE in our state (New Hampshire) recently, so I
do feel it's important to take reasonable precautions. We try to stay
indoors if the mosquitoes are bad, but my son plays soccer and the games
will sometimes go until dusk.
Cathy
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Cara
> I tend to swell fromMy youngest is LOVED by the mosquito community here in Louisiana.
> mosquito bites, and so do my kids. Any help would be
> greatly appreciated. Thanks---
When the sprays don't work - I break out the vinegar. It takes away
the sting and the swelling. And within an hour (depending on the
number of bites) you just see a little redness - no itching or bumps.
Vinegar also works on ant bites (which we also have) as well as other
buggie bites.
Cara :)
Schafer Vanessa
Cara,
Thanks, I'll have to try that the next time we get
bit. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. I'm all for
the home remedies, so this one could be fun/cheap to
try.
---Vanessa
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Thanks, I'll have to try that the next time we get
bit. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. I'm all for
the home remedies, so this one could be fun/cheap to
try.
---Vanessa
--- Cara <casonnier@...> wrote:
> > I tend to swell fromVanessa
> > mosquito bites, and so do my kids. Any help would
> be
> > greatly appreciated. Thanks---
>
>
> My youngest is LOVED by the mosquito community here
> in Louisiana.
> When the sprays don't work - I break out the
> vinegar. It takes away
> the sting and the swelling. And within an hour
> (depending on the
> number of bites) you just see a little redness - no
> itching or bumps.
> Vinegar also works on ant bites (which we also have)
> as well as other
> buggie bites.
>
> Cara :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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