joanchris2000

Hi, I just came across this idea of homeschooling/unschooling as I was
doing some research online to help me figure out what to do about my
3rd grader who just HATES School. We just moved (but she hated school
before, so I don't think it's the move), the teacher seems great, so
does the school, and she has friends.
She loves to play with her Leapfrog Explorer Globe, can find dozens of
countries in a flash on it, is working on states/capitals now---and
this is just in her free play time at home. I think she might be the
sort of child who would thrive with unschooling, from the relatively
little I have read already.
Any advice from those who started unschooling after a child was
already public schooled?
I have an older daughter who I would NOT keep at home, she has
multiple developmental delays and is getting what SHE needs in
school. Is is unfair to send one to school and unschool another?
Thanks! Joan
PS any ideas on convincing an unwilling spouse, as I imagine mine will
be if I go this route, he will say I'm giving in to what my daughter
wants, to stay home.

Deb

--- In [email protected], "joanchris2000"
<joanchris2006@...> wrote:

> Any advice from those who started unschooling after a child was
> already public schooled?

Well, my DS was never in school BUT I was. You'll need to work on
getting the school mindset out, "deschool" as it's called. Even *with*
a child in school, you can change the way you look at and relate to
the school system.

> I have an older daughter who I would NOT keep at home, she has
> multiple developmental delays and is getting what SHE needs in
> school. Is is unfair to send one to school and unschool another?

Fair is making sure each child receives what s/he wants and needs.
Fair is not making everyone 'even' as they do in school (you're going
too fast, so slow down...you're going too slow, so speed up...everyone
has to do the same things at the same time is NOT fair to most of
those involved).

> any ideas on convincing an unwilling spouse, as I imagine mine will
> be if I go this route, he will say I'm giving in to what my daughter
> wants, to stay home.
Why is doing what she wants a bad thing? If your DH wants ice cream
after dinner, would you be 'giving in' to give him some? Why is it a
bad thing to give kids what they want and need but it's expected that
we'll give adults what they ask for without question most of the time?

--Deb

Michelle Leifur Reid

On 9/14/06, joanchris2000 Any advice from those who started unschooling
after a child was
already public schooled?
I have an older daughter who I would NOT keep at home, she has
multiple developmental delays and is getting what SHE needs in
school. Is is unfair to send one to school and unschool another?

*************************
My oldest went through 2nd grade and then was brought home. We eased our
way into unschooling, but still only did basic stuff (mostly math and *some*
vocabulary/grammar work) the first year. After that we let go of curriculum
altogether. Take a vacation and let go of all the schooly things.

As for your other daughter, you will hear on this list and on other
unschooling forums that delays are calculated by a system that has no real
base. A child who is unschooled will never be "delayed." There is nothing
to be delayed from. You might also hear people say that whatever it is that
she *needs* from school can also be given to her at home (and more!) Is it
fair to have one child in school and one not? Sure, but only if the other
child *wants* to be in school. If the other child is being sent and is
unhappy or jealous about the freedoms of the child at home I would say that
it isn't fair as you aren't really meeting the needs of everyone (and
emotional needs are as (if not more) important than educational needs.)







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Vanessa

Hi,

I just started unschooling this year. (actually just last week) My
kids were in school through 3rd and 4th grades. We finally pulled
them out after countless problems with public schools, and within
their school. Now that we have been doing what is
called "deschooling" my kids are enjoying learning again, about the
things they like. Last week we tried experimenting on different
things that might take the tarnish off from pennies-(something my
son asked me if I knew how to do it/what would take it off). We
brainstormed, and tried baking soda and water, peroxide, and even my
dad had told me he heard that coke will disolve a penny, so we tried
that too. None of that worked. I was talking to a friend of mine,
and she said taco sauce would do it. So we tried soaking the penny
in taco sauce for like 15 minutes, and it worked. All of this came
from my son, and his wanting to clean off the penny. It was fun
brainstorming, and trying to figure out what worked.

I don't know your situation with the public schools, but I can tell
you my kids were miserable. They hated school, and didn't have fun
learning any more. Some other things happened, which was the straw
that broke the camels back, so we pulled them out. Now they have so
much more freedoms, and they are getting excited about learning-
about the things they are interested in- not what is forced on them
in the public school system. Sorry if this sounds like I am soured
on public schools, we have been through alot in the past 4 and 5
years. I don't think schools promote exciting things to learn
about, and force the kids to learn about what they feel is
necessary. I remember not liking school, and doing only what I had
to do, to graduate and get out. I think it's important for me and my
husband to grow along with the kids, and learn together. I think,
even in the short times we've been unschooling, I've seen definate
changes, and luckily my hubby is with me every step of the way. In
fact when we first started researching homeschooling, neither one of
us was sure about it, but now I wouldn't want it any other way. I
hope this helps some--sorry I'm so long winded. I'm sure I will
stumble, but there is always a way to get back up and try again.

Good luck, and the best advice I can give is to just enjoy, and live
life, and have fun. Kids don't stay young for very long.


---Vanessa
















--- In [email protected], "joanchris2000"
<joanchris2006@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I just came across this idea of homeschooling/unschooling as I
was
> doing some research online to help me figure out what to do about
my
> 3rd grader who just HATES School. We just moved (but she hated
school
> before, so I don't think it's the move), the teacher seems great,
so
> does the school, and she has friends.
> She loves to play with her Leapfrog Explorer Globe, can find
dozens of
> countries in a flash on it, is working on states/capitals now---and
> this is just in her free play time at home. I think she might be
the
> sort of child who would thrive with unschooling, from the
relatively
> little I have read already.
> Any advice from those who started unschooling after a child was
> already public schooled?
> I have an older daughter who I would NOT keep at home, she has
> multiple developmental delays and is getting what SHE needs in
> school. Is is unfair to send one to school and unschool another?
> Thanks! Joan
> PS any ideas on convincing an unwilling spouse, as I imagine mine
will
> be if I go this route, he will say I'm giving in to what my
daughter
> wants, to stay home.
>

Solé

Hm, is it unschooling to do as if you don't know the answer and do
all kinds of experiments just to have your children go through the
experience? I don't mean to say something bad about what you wrote!
I'm new to this and would like to hear the opinions of the people who
are experienced. I mean, it would have been easier to look it up on
google. Trying all kinds of things as to make it like more "learning"
seems to me like you're trying to .. I dunno! I mean... maybe your
children didn't know they could find out in an easier way and if they
ever find out that it could have been an easy look up think, why did
we have to do all this (even if it was "fun"... you know what I
mean?). Of course, doing it the way you did it also sounds
unschooling to me.

Greetings
Johanna

Am 14.09.2006 um 23:47 schrieb Vanessa:

> Last week we tried experimenting on different
> things that might take the tarnish off from pennies-(something my
> son asked me if I knew how to do it/what would take it off). We
> brainstormed, and tried baking soda and water, peroxide, and even my
> dad had told me he heard that coke will disolve a penny, so we tried
> that too. None of that worked. I was talking to a friend of mine,
> and she said taco sauce would do it. So we tried soaking the penny
> in taco sauce for like 15 minutes, and it worked. All of this came
> from my son, and his wanting to clean off the penny. It was fun
> brainstorming, and trying to figure out what worked.

John and Amanda Slater

Vanessa <psychomom95@...> wrote: Last week we tried experimenting on different
things that might take the tarnish off from pennies-(something my
son asked me if I knew how to do it/what would take it off). We
brainstormed, and tried baking soda and water, peroxide, and even my
dad had told me he heard that coke will disolve a penny, so we tried
that too. None of that worked.


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Schafer Vanessa

Thanks, we'll try that next, as soon as I can buy
some. We are always looking for ideas/ new things to
try.

----Vanessa

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> Vanessa <psychomom95@...> wrote: Last
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> son asked me if I knew how to do it/what would take
> it off). We
> brainstormed, and tried baking soda and water,
> peroxide, and even my
> dad had told me he heard that coke will disolve a
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Schafer Vanessa

Johanna,

I too, am new to this. This whole experiment thing
happened because my son came to me. I never thought
about looking it up on the computer, we just wanted to
brainstorm, and see what we thought would clean the
penny. My son loves to do this kind of stuff, so who
am I to tell him to look it up on the computer. I
think he feels he learns more from trying, than
looking it up on the computer. Seeing the effects of
what we tried is more fun than reading about them. I
welcome any and all ideas from anyone. I am new to
unschooling, but had fun with my kids trying to clean
the penny.



-----Vanessa

--- Solé <solelokuai@...> wrote:

> Hm, is it unschooling to do as if you don't know the
> answer and do
> all kinds of experiments just to have your children
> go through the
> experience? I don't mean to say something bad about
> what you wrote!
> I'm new to this and would like to hear the opinions
> of the people who
> are experienced. I mean, it would have been easier
> to look it up on
> google. Trying all kinds of things as to make it
> like more "learning"
> seems to me like you're trying to .. I dunno! I
> mean... maybe your
> children didn't know they could find out in an
> easier way and if they
> ever find out that it could have been an easy look
> up think, why did
> we have to do all this (even if it was "fun"... you
> know what I
> mean?). Of course, doing it the way you did it also
> sounds
> unschooling to me.
>
> Greetings
> Johanna
>
> Am 14.09.2006 um 23:47 schrieb Vanessa:
>
> > Last week we tried experimenting on different
> > things that might take the tarnish off from
> pennies-(something my
> > son asked me if I knew how to do it/what would
> take it off). We
> > brainstormed, and tried baking soda and water,
> peroxide, and even my
> > dad had told me he heard that coke will disolve a
> penny, so we tried
> > that too. None of that worked. I was talking to a
> friend of mine,
> > and she said taco sauce would do it. So we tried
> soaking the penny
> > in taco sauce for like 15 minutes, and it worked.
> All of this came
> > from my son, and his wanting to clean off the
> penny. It was fun
> > brainstorming, and trying to figure out what
> worked.
>
>


Vanessa


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>>Hm, is it unschooling to do as if you don't know the answer and do all kinds of experiments just to have your children go through the experience? I don't mean to say something bad about what you wrote! I'm new to this and would like to hear the opinions of the people who are experienced. I mean, it would have been easier to look it up on google. >>

People learn in different ways! People have different ideas about how to solve a problem, and it can change from situation to situation, problem to problem, question to question. That's the beauty of unschooling. One family will go straight to google while another will play around with their own experimentation. Some will do both. Some neither, they'll use a book or caqll grandpa. It all counts. It's all learning.

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-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Sol� <solelokuai@...>
> Hm, is it unschooling to do as if you don't know the answer and do
> all kinds of experiments just to have your children go through the
> experience? I don't mean to say something bad about what you wrote!
> I'm new to this and would like to hear the opinions of the people who
> are experienced. I mean, it would have been easier to look it up on
> google. Trying all kinds of things as to make it like more "learning"
> seems to me like you're trying to .. I dunno! I mean... maybe your
> children didn't know they could find out in an easier way and if they
> ever find out that it could have been an easy look up think, why did
> we have to do all this (even if it was "fun"... you know what I
> mean?). Of course, doing it the way you did it also sounds
> unschooling to me.
>
> Greetings
> Johanna
>
> Am 14.09.2006 um 23:47 schrieb Vanessa:
>
> > Last week we tried experimenting on different
> > things that might take the tarnish off from pennies-(something my
> > son asked me if I knew how to do it/what would take it off). We
> > brainstormed, and tried baking soda and water, peroxide, and even my
> > dad had told me he heard that coke will disolve a penny, so we tried
> > that too. None of that worked. I was talking to a friend of mine,
> > and she said taco sauce would do it. So we tried soaking the penny
> > in taco sauce for like 15 minutes, and it worked. All of this came
> > from my son, and his wanting to clean off the penny. It was fun
> > brainstorming, and trying to figure out what worked.
>