Joyce Fetteroll

Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?
They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
parents to help them parent more peacefully?

I did a Google search but nothing really vibed the same vibes.

No one ever emails me from my website and I've had 5 in the last 2
weeks! ;-) One from a schooling mom and I don't want to turn her away
from building a better relationship with her 9 yo and teen sons by
saying she needs to unschool! She seems to be asking the right
questions of her own part in the struggles they have (not
specifically about school, just life stuff) and I think maybe she
could figure out how to do better, if not actually decide unschooling
sounded good, if she first had some answers to "What do I do when .."
parenting questions.

Any ideas?

Joyce

Joanne

How about mothering.com? If I think of any more, I'll let you know.

~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (8), Shawna (11) & Cimion (13)
http://anunschoolinglife.blogspot.com/



--- In [email protected], Joyce Fetteroll
<fetteroll@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that
discusses
> parenting similar to what we discuss here without the
unschooling?
> They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
> parents to help them parent more peacefully?
>
> I did a Google search but nothing really vibed the same vibes.
>
> No one ever emails me from my website and I've had 5 in the last
2
> weeks! ;-) One from a schooling mom and I don't want to turn her
away
> from building a better relationship with her 9 yo and teen sons
by
> saying she needs to unschool! She seems to be asking the right
> questions of her own part in the struggles they have (not
> specifically about school, just life stuff) and I think maybe she
> could figure out how to do better, if not actually decide
unschooling
> sounded good, if she first had some answers to "What do I do
when .."
> parenting questions.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Joyce
>

[email protected]

Rue's book?

~Kelly

Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org

"It's a small world...but a BIG life!" ~Aaron McGlohn. aged 6

-----Original Message-----
From: fetteroll@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 5:45 AM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Peaceful or mindful parenting website?

Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?
They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
parents to help them parent more peacefully?

I did a Google search but nothing really vibed the same vibes.

No one ever emails me from my website and I've had 5 in the last 2
weeks! ;-) One from a schooling mom and I don't want to turn her away
from building a better relationship with her 9 yo and teen sons by
saying she needs to unschool! She seems to be asking the right
questions of her own part in the struggles they have (not
specifically about school, just life stuff) and I think maybe she
could figure out how to do better, if not actually decide unschooling
sounded good, if she first had some answers to "What do I do when .."
parenting questions.

Any ideas?

Joyce



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On 8/27/06, Joyce Fetteroll <fetteroll@...> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
> parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?

What about mothering.com I know that they have quite a few schooling
parents there. Also there is the Attachment Parenting International
http://www.attachmentparenting.org There used to be a yahoogroup
called non-coercive parenting and there is the website
http://www.takingchildrenseriously.com doesn't have an active message
board, but there are some good articles there. Not all of them are
unschooling based.
--
Michelle
aka Melbrigða
http://eventualknitting.blogspot.com
[email protected] - Homeschooling for the Medieval Recreationist

Mik McEwen

I sub to SAH-AP and that was the radical ap set there.
http://www.kjsl.com/sah-ap/
I've been nomail for a while, but it used to be the hardcore list.

Mik in CT


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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joyce Fetteroll
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 5:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Peaceful or mindful parenting website?



Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?
They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
parents to help them parent more peacefully?

I did a Google search but nothing really vibed the same vibes.

No one ever emails me from my website and I've had 5 in the last 2
weeks! ;-) One from a schooling mom and I don't want to turn her away
from building a better relationship with her 9 yo and teen sons by
saying she needs to unschool! She seems to be asking the right
questions of her own part in the struggles they have (not
specifically about school, just life stuff) and I think maybe she
could figure out how to do better, if not actually decide unschooling
sounded good, if she first had some answers to "What do I do when .."
parenting questions.

Any ideas?

Joyce






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[email protected]

OH! Pam Genant's consensual living e-list!

~Kelly

Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org

"It's a small world...but a BIG life!" ~Aaron McGlohn. aged 6

-----Original Message-----
From: pamperedmichelle@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Peaceful or mindful parenting website?

On 8/27/06, Joyce Fetteroll <fetteroll@...> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
> parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?

What about mothering.com I know that they have quite a few schooling
parents there. Also there is the Attachment Parenting International
http://www.attachmentparenting.org There used to be a yahoogroup
called non-coercive parenting and there is the website
http://www.takingchildrenseriously.com doesn't have an active message
board, but there are some good articles there. Not all of them are
unschooling based.
--
Michelle
aka Melbrigða
http://eventualknitting.blogspot.com
[email protected] - Homeschooling for the Medieval Recreationist



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--- In [email protected], Joyce Fetteroll
<fetteroll@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
> parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?
> They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
> parents to help them parent more peacefully?
>
Joyce,

Is this one?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Consensual-living/

I belong to that group and the description looks applicable.

Best
Tonya

Laureen

Heya!

On 8/27/06, Joyce Fetteroll <fetteroll@...> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
> parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?
> They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
> parents to help them parent more peacefully?

My hands-down all time fave is Scott Noelle's site.
http://www.enjoyparenting.com/
His Daily Groove emails are the *best*.

--
~~L!
http://elementalmom.blogspot.com/

Tyra Olufemi

What about Attachment Parenting International? I have connections with the people who run the agency and once they even gave my son a peaceful parenting t-shirt. Since getting into RU, I don't read as much about attachment parenting but I do know that they have info specifically for families who children are school age.

I cannot say how in alignment what API promotes is with RU. I do know that that is organization that seeks to have children brought up in a manner that is loving, respectful and most of all, peaceful.

Peace
Tyra
From: Joyce Fetteroll <fetteroll@...>
Date: 2006/08/27 Sun AM 04:45:33 CDT
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Peaceful or mindful parenting website?

Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?
They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
parents to help them parent more peacefully?

I did a Google search but nothing really vibed the same vibes.

No one ever emails me from my website and I've had 5 in the last 2
weeks! ;-) One from a schooling mom and I don't want to turn her away
from building a better relationship with her 9 yo and teen sons by
saying she needs to unschool! She seems to be asking the right
questions of her own part in the struggles they have (not
specifically about school, just life stuff) and I think maybe she
could figure out how to do better, if not actually decide unschooling
sounded good, if she first had some answers to "What do I do when .."
parenting questions.

Any ideas?

Joyce

[email protected]

Try this one..
[email protected]_
(mailto:[email protected])

Laura


<<Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?
They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
parents to help them parent more peacefully?>>


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Dawn

You might like enjoyparenting.com

Dawn

Rue Kream

>>Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?

**Alfie Kohn has an 'unconditional parenting' message board:
http://unconditionalparentingboard.com/eve. ~Rue


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Teresa Sittler

Hi Joyce,
Attachment Parenting International has a website. Aswell I'm on a small yahoo group called Saskatoon APNFL (attachment parenting/ natural family living). Most of us live in Saskatchewan (Canada) but I'm sure the moderator would welcome other members.
Teresa

Tonya Matthews <godzilla.matthews@...> wrote:
--- In [email protected], Joyce Fetteroll
<fetteroll@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a website, list or message board that discusses
> parenting similar to what we discuss here without the unschooling?
> They seem to go hand in hand but is there something for schooling
> parents to help them parent more peacefully?
>
Joyce,

Is this one?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Consensual-living/

I belong to that group and the description looks applicable.

Best
Tonya






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Joyce Fetteroll

Thank you all very much!

I glanced through some to try to get a handle on what was offered. I
had some quesitons about ...

Attachment Parenting seems more for babies. Is that how you'd
characterize it? Apparently they posted a questionaire to create a
FAQ and the answers for the Teen section were rather slim. "Well, I
don't have a teen ...", "Well, I think..."

A casual look and Mothering seems that it reaches from mainstream to
radical as far as parenting but definitely against punishment. Having
mainstream ideas presented is not necessarily a bad thing. I came to
unschooling from AOL's everything-about-homeschooling boards ;-) It's
good to see the arguments for and against various choices when you're
not positive what you want.

Joyce

Michelle/Melbrigða

On 8/28/06, Joyce Fetteroll <fetteroll@...> wrote:
> Thank you all very much!
>
> I glanced through some to try to get a handle on what was offered. I
> had some quesitons about ...
>
> Attachment Parenting seems more for babies. Is that how you'd
> characterize it? Apparently they posted a questionaire to create a
> FAQ and the answers for the Teen section were rather slim. "Well, I
> don't have a teen ...", "Well, I think..."

Joyce, I have a friend who has worked for API and is a "leader" (or
whatever they are called in that organization) She said that there is
a misconception that AP is only for babies. One of the problems is
that AP is introduced at La Leche League, but many parents leave LLL
after their babies are weaned or when they are through the babying
stage. There is nothing left for them after that so they end up
turning to more mainstream parenting decisions. I used to be a member
of sah-ap *years* ago and while it mostly concerned babies and
toddlers, there was a growing group that had school aged and older
children. I think the reason that it seems so one sided is that many
parents are looking for "the right way to parent" when their babies
are smaller. Many will find a way and stick to it (whether it works
or not) because they don't have any other tools or are too "lazy" to
go search for anything else. When they request help from whatever
system they are following they are told to take it to the next step
(usually more authoritarian).

I was at the bookstore this past week and was looking at the parenting
and family books. I was amazed at the number of books on "controlling
your teen." Even the books that hinted at "understanding your teen"
really had a lot of, "in order to get your teen to the point where
they can move out of your house you must lay the law down and give
them very strict boundaries as they are asking for these boundaries
through their actions." :( There just aren't many gentle
non-coercive teen parenting resources out there (at least that are
easy to find.)

--
Michelle
aka Melbrigða
http://eventualknitting.blogspot.com
[email protected] - Homeschooling for the Medieval Recreationist

David

I like The Sears' book "The Successful Child". It goes beyond the baby
stage (although, of course emphasis is placed on the importance of early
bonding) and gives good, general advice about how to guide children in their
process of being/becoming a "successful" person (meaning, someone who is
happy and healthy and others like being around).

Monique


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joyce Fetteroll
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Peaceful or mindful parenting website?

Attachment Parenting seems more for babies. Is that how you'd
characterize it?

Teresa Sittler

I think the focus of AP is the early bonding but the ideas continue throughout your child's life- respecting their feelings, them knowing what they need, being there for them, making sure they feel 'right', etc. Our group read Alfie Kohn's newest book. I know the AP website has other book recommendations that are for older children. The slogan is "Attachment Parenting for a more peaceful world".
Teresa

David <Hueyhome@...> wrote:
I like The Sears' book "The Successful Child". It goes beyond the baby
stage (although, of course emphasis is placed on the importance of early
bonding) and gives good, general advice about how to guide children in their
process of being/becoming a "successful" person (meaning, someone who is
happy and healthy and others like being around).

Monique

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joyce Fetteroll
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Peaceful or mindful parenting website?

Attachment Parenting seems more for babies. Is that how you'd
characterize it?






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Cheryl

>Michelle
>>Joyce, I have a friend who has worked for API and is a "leader" (or
>>whatever they are called in that organization) She said that there is
>a misconception that AP is only for babies. One of the problems is
>that AP is introduced at La Leche League, but many parents leave LLL
>after their babies are weaned or when they are through the babying
>stage. There is nothing left for them after that so they end up
>turning to more mainstream parenting decisions. I used to be a member
>of sah-ap *years* ago and while it mostly concerned babies and
>toddlers, there was a growing group that had school aged and older
>children. I think the reason that it seems so one sided is that many
>parents are looking for "the right way to parent" when their babies
>are smaller. Many will find a way and stick to it (whether it works
>or not) because they don't have any other tools or are too "lazy" to
>go search for anything else. When they request help from whatever
>system they are following they are told to take it to the next step
>>(usually more authoritarian).
************************

Gordon Neufeld ("Hold On To Your Kids") talked about this at
the CA HSC's conference last week, how ap has been used mainly
in reference to babies/toddlers. I loved hearing what he had
to say, bought the recordings of his speeches. He is working
on a new book about how kids develop attachments to their
peers as they detach from their parents through school. (I
think that was the subject matter...not totally sure).

I'm thinking of starting a local chapter of API, even though
I'm not very active, anymore, in the local ap moms group...because I wanted
to be able to steer new parents to the local network. I feel
passionately grateful to those at LLL who helped me discover
the whole movement, I guess, and would love to contribute
back.

Lots of people look at API's website for local chapters
when they're trying to meet other AP families, but as big as our
ap network is, here in the OC, there is no local API chapter.
I figure at least I can be a point of contact to get people
hooked up. But now I see how it can also be a useful
tool to keep discussing attachment parenting
throughout children's growth, stay involved in ideas, networks,
and bring new awareness to how people change from ap to main-
stream when they aren't aware of options.

Cheryl

"Keep knocking and the joy inside will eventually open a window and look to
see who's there."
- Jalal Al-Din Rumi, a 13th century Sufi poet & mystic

Cheryl

Go for it, Cheryl. There are people here (in Orange County,
California) who will support you, if you get things underway.

Today I had one of those realizations about how very unusual my kids/
family are compared to most families with teenagers -- we're going
camping over Labor Day weekend. Just me, my husband, and my 21, 18,
and 15 yo daughters. They are THRILLED to be going with just our
family - they are happily looking forward to it. They could have said
they didn't want to go - but as soon as I mentioned it, they jumped
on it.

-pam
**********************************
Which is no surprise, to me, seeing how you all relate, but yeah, it is
definitely an unusual phenomenon when I look around at other kids. It
must feel very very good to have this kind of "internal" payback when your
children are almost grown. Well, I guess 2 ARE grown, lol.
Thanks for the nod of support!
C


"We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone"
--Pink Floyd

Pamela Sorooshian

Go for it, Cheryl. There are people here (in Orange County,
California) who will support you, if you get things underway.

Today I had one of those realizations about how very unusual my kids/
family are compared to most families with teenagers -- we're going
camping over Labor Day weekend. Just me, my husband, and my 21, 18,
and 15 yo daughters. They are THRILLED to be going with just our
family - they are happily looking forward to it. They could have said
they didn't want to go - but as soon as I mentioned it, they jumped
on it.

-pam

On Aug 28, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Cheryl wrote:

> Lots of people look at API's website for local chapters
> when they're trying to meet other AP families, but as big as our
> ap network is, here in the OC, there is no local API chapter.
> I figure at least I can be a point of contact to get people
> hooked up. But now I see how it can also be a useful
> tool to keep discussing attachment parenting
> throughout children's growth, stay involved in ideas, networks,
> and bring new awareness to how people change from ap to main-
> stream when they aren't aware of options.

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Mary Alice Madaris

Thanks for directing me to the Enjoy Parenting site! I would love a daily email to center me on the path of choice! I was considering begging this list to put together a daily affirmation/meditation book....but now I don't have to :-)

Mary Alice

Laureen <splashing@...> wrote:
My hands-down all time fave is Scott Noelle's site.
http://www.enjoyparenting.com/
His Daily Groove emails are the *best*.


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