Christy Putnam

Okay ya'll, help me figure this out. When a child/preteen/teen is expected
to put their signature on something (bank accounts mainly) are they supposed
to use cursive? I mean isn't that what a signature is? Please help me with
this cuz I am a bit freaked out...

Seth went pre-k through 5th grade in school and of course learned and was
required to write in cursive but since he has been out of school he has
forgotten how to sign his name in cursive. It is very frustrating to me cuz
I feel like this is something he should just be able to do almost on
auto-pilot. One thing I do not expect is him to know all the letters or
anything. I don't know or care to know how to write in cursive but I CAN
sign my name. I don't expect him to do anything but sign his name. Am I
expecting too much?


In Gratitude,
Christy Putnam
Unschooling Mom to Aden (1) and Seth (11)
Loving wife of Chet (ann. 7/4/04)

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squeaky biscuit

I think when signature is required it has to be in cursive. He doesn't
really have to sign his name to anything until he is about 18 though.

My boys (12 and 14) can't write in cursive at all. THey can read cursive and
sign their names, but that's about it.


Erin




On 6/9/06, Christy Putnam <personal_balance@...> wrote:
>
> Okay ya'll, help me figure this out. When a child/preteen/teen is
> expected
> to put their signature on something (bank accounts mainly) are they
> supposed
> to use cursive? I mean isn't that what a signature is? Please help me with
> this cuz I am a bit freaked out...
>
> Seth went pre-k through 5th grade in school and of course learned and was
> required to write in cursive but since he has been out of school he has
> forgotten how to sign his name in cursive. It is very frustrating to me
> cuz
> I feel like this is something he should just be able to do almost on
> auto-pilot. One thing I do not expect is him to know all the letters or
> anything. I don't know or care to know how to write in cursive but I CAN
> sign my name. I don't expect him to do anything but sign his name. Am I
> expecting too much?
>
>
> In Gratitude,
> Christy Putnam
> Unschooling Mom to Aden (1) and Seth (11)
> Loving wife of Chet (ann. 7/4/04)
>
> Visit my blog &/or join my group:
> <http://blog.myspace.com/personal_balance>
> http://blog.myspace.com/personal_balance
> <http://groups.myspace.com/unschoolingourfuture>
> http://groups.myspace.com/unschoolingourfuture
>
> "Go confidently in the direction of your
> dreams. Live the life you have always
> imagined." - Henry David Thoreau
>
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>
>
>


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Michelle/Melbrigða

On 6/9/06, Christy Putnam <personal_balance@...> wrote:
>
> Okay ya'll, help me figure this out. When a child/preteen/teen is expected
> to put their signature on something (bank accounts mainly) are they supposed
> to use cursive? I mean isn't that what a signature is?

No; a signature is the way in which you sign your name that is unique
to you. Traditionally it has been in cursive, but it is not required
to be such. As long as it is your unique signature and is most like
how you sign all your documents then it should be acceptable. And
let's face it, we've seen people who make an attempt at the first
letter of their first name and the rest of the name is a line. Is
*that* more of a signature than their full name printed? Even people
who print have differences that make their handwriting unique.


--
Michelle
aka Melbrigða
http://eventualknitting.blogspot.com
[email protected] - Homeschooling for the Medieval Recreationist

Lesa McMahon-Lowe

Christy,

I don't think anyone should expect him to sign anything in Cursive. IMO

My DD went to PS from Pre-K through 3rd grade. When we started
homeschooling last fall (and now unschool) I didn't make her continue
cursive (heck, I stopped writing in cursive as soon as they would let me in
school... I still don't write in cursive except to sign my name and that's
developed to the point where it's almost non-legitable). Almost the entire
school year" she didn't write in cursive at all... but just a few days ago
we were playing around on the white board and writing our names and she
started signing her name in cursive. I was surprised that she even
remembered how. She couldn't remember how to make a few letter in her
middle name and last name, so I showed her.

It wasn't a forced learning experience but a learning experience all the
same. It just happened organically.

Why be frustrated? Cursive really sucks (IMO) and is introduced way too
early in school now. He will eventually develop his own style... which may
or may not include cursive.

Lesa
http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
http://stoptherod.net/
http://parentinginjesusfootsteps.org/

"Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth."
-John F. Kennedy

-------Original Message-------

From: Christy Putnam
Date: 06/09/06 16:32:24
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Cursive/Signatures

Okay ya'll, help me figure this out. When a child/preteen/teen is expected
to put their signature on something (bank accounts mainly) are they supposed
to use cursive? I mean isn't that what a signature is? Please help me with
this cuz I am a bit freaked out...

Seth went pre-k through 5th grade in school and of course learned and was
required to write in cursive but since he has been out of school he has
forgotten how to sign his name in cursive. It is very frustrating to me cuz
I feel like this is something he should just be able to do almost on
auto-pilot. One thing I do not expect is him to know all the letters or
anything. I don't know or care to know how to write in cursive but I CAN
sign my name. I don't expect him to do anything but sign his name. Am I
expecting too much?


In Gratitude,
Christy Putnam
Unschooling Mom to Aden (1) and Seth (11)
Loving wife of Chet (ann. 7/4/04)

Visit my blog &/or join my group:
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dreams. Live the life you have always
imagined." - Henry David Thoreau



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Christy Putnam

Thank you all soooo much for this. It is kinda weird that I knew I should
not be stressing out but just couldn't get past it. Though I didn't freak
out on him, I did kinda make a bigger deal out of it than I meant to so now
I am off to apologize and then do better next time something like this comes
up. I will let him know what I have found out about signatures and that
they don't have to be cursive, just however he wants it. I do have a long
way to go before letting go of schoolish stuff...I am getting there though.

In Gratitude,
Christy Putnam
Unschooling Mom to Aden (1) and Seth (11)
Loving wife of Chet (ann. 7/4/04)

Visit my blog &/or join my group:
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dreams. Live the life you have always
imagined." - Henry David Thoreau


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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michelle/Melbrigða
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Cursive/Signatures



On 6/9/06, Christy Putnam <personal_balance@
<mailto:personal_balance%40cox.net> cox.net> wrote:
>
> Okay ya'll, help me figure this out. When a child/preteen/teen is expected
> to put their signature on something (bank accounts mainly) are they
supposed
> to use cursive? I mean isn't that what a signature is?

No; a signature is the way in which you sign your name that is unique
to you. Traditionally it has been in cursive, but it is not required
to be such. As long as it is your unique signature and is most like
how you sign all your documents then it should be acceptable. And
let's face it, we've seen people who make an attempt at the first
letter of their first name and the rest of the name is a line. Is
*that* more of a signature than their full name printed? Even people
who print have differences that make their handwriting unique.

--
Michelle
aka Melbrigða
http://eventualknit <http://eventualknitting.blogspot.com> ting.blogspot.com
MedHS@yahoogroups. <mailto:MedHS%40yahoogroups.com> com - Homeschooling for
the Medieval Recreationist





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Kris

--- In [email protected], "squeaky biscuit"
<squeakybiscuit@...> wrote:
>
> I think when signature is required it has to be in cursive. He doesn't
> really have to sign his name to anything until he is about 18 though.
>
> My boys (12 and 14) can't write in cursive at all. THey can read
cursive and
> sign their names, but that's about it.
>
>


My 38 year old brother has purchased homes and vehicles - has signed
checks and everything else with a signature that is completely non-
cursive. It is kind of squished up printing - but definately not
cursive.

Kris

[email protected]

Hi - I just read something from John Holt about cursive writing. The only
reason it was taught to children was because in the "olden" days, cursive was
used for Engraving. Someone thought that it would be neat (and faster) to teach
children to write in cursive. He acually has done a few "tests", and has
found that it actually is not faster than printing :)

Warmly,
Cynthia


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joan sillito

Hello, Two of my children opened bank accounts and neither of them knew how to write in cursive. One was about 12 yrs old at the time and the other 14. They printed their names in all the spots they needed to sign their names. Both continued to print when their signature was needed on anything; one of them is now 15 and he still always prints his signature but the 14-now-17 yr old has learned just enough cursive to 'sign' her name. :)
Joan
----- Original Message -----
From: Christy Putnam
To: [email protected] ; [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Cursive/Signatures


Okay ya'll, help me figure this out. When a child/preteen/teen is expected
to put their signature on something (bank accounts mainly) are they supposed
to use cursive? I mean isn't that what a signature is? Please help me with
this cuz I am a bit freaked out...

Seth went pre-k through 5th grade in school and of course learned and was
required to write in cursive but since he has been out of school he has
forgotten how to sign his name in cursive. It is very frustrating to me cuz
I feel like this is something he should just be able to do almost on
auto-pilot. One thing I do not expect is him to know all the letters or
anything. I don't know or care to know how to write in cursive but I CAN
sign my name. I don't expect him to do anything but sign his name. Am I
expecting too much?


In Gratitude,
Christy Putnam
Unschooling Mom to Aden (1) and Seth (11)
Loving wife of Chet (ann. 7/4/04)

Visit my blog &/or join my group:
<http://blog.myspace.com/personal_balance>
http://blog.myspace.com/personal_balance
<http://groups.myspace.com/unschoolingourfuture>
http://groups.myspace.com/unschoolingourfuture

"Go confidently in the direction of your
dreams. Live the life you have always
imagined." - Henry David Thoreau

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Tina

<My DD went to PS from Pre-K through 3rd grade. When we started
homeschooling last fall (and now unschool) I didn't make her continue
cursive>

What a coincidence...my son attended PS from K-3.5, and the first
thing we dropped when he came home was the writing. He always hated
cursive. He is now 12 and still does not care to write. When he does
it MUST be a pencil and is always printed. Although, he can read
cursive just fine and likes to dictate things for me to type. He does
do some typing on his own now and again.

Just the other day my husband bought a truck from a young man
who "signed" his name on the title in print. So, I guess there are
those out there that just print. I thought it unusual at the time and
wondered about it, but I just figured that was his name so what did it
matter...interesting.

Tina

Pamela Sorooshian

On Jun 11, 2006, at 5:11 AM, Lesa McMahon-Lowe wrote:

>>>> I think when signature is required it has to be in cursive. <<<
>
> I just think that's society's conditioning! I don't find that to
> be the
> truth but just what we know or what is expected now.

I thought I'd google to find out if there were cases where cursive
signatures were required - I did find that Ohio requires a "cursive-
style signature" on various kinds of legal petitions.

>>3. Signatures must be in ink. �Signature� means that person�s
written,
cursive-style legal mark written in that person�s own hand<<

-pam

Unschooling shirts, cups, bumper stickers, bags...
Live Love Learn
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sunsaltnsand

Well, let's just say that my DH's signature is in "cursive" scribbling --
and I use that term loosely. I can easily forge his signature by simply
scrambling a pen across the paper. My signature is half-printing,
half-cursive. Guess whose signature gets questioned?

Hint: it's not mine ;-).

*shari*


> I think when signature is required it has to be in cursive. He doesn't
> really have to sign his name to anything until he is about 18 though.
>
> My boys (12 and 14) can't write in cursive at all. THey can read
cursive and
> sign their names, but that's about it.
>
>

Heather

I found this while doing an internet search..I thought it was interesting -


Heather



Did you know that the law does _not_ require cursive for
signatures? (Ask a lawyer!) According to legal definitions of
"signature" and "writing" in BLACK'S LAW DICTIONARY (a standard legal
reference) and the revised Uniform Commercial Code (law in all 50
states), any way of writing (not just cursive) qualifies legally as
your signature if you use it for your signature. Of course, make sure
to register a new signature with your bank before you use it - the
same as you would if your signature changed for any other reason (such
as a severe change in your vision or general health - or the common
case of a bride adopting her husband's surname). Tell the bank that
your handwriting and therefore your signature have changed - perhaps
tell the bank-official how the change came about - and make sure that
the bank DOES NOT get rid of your old signature-card: you may still
have some checks outstanding somewhere.
(If you need me to quote the above-referenced legal definitions
of "signature" and "writing," just let me know. I have the wording on
file somewhere.)


Yours for better letters,
Kate Gladstone
Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest





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