Multi "Noise"
jlh44music
OK, I'm just curious how many out there have kids who have many things
going on at once. This is what's going on in my dd's room at the
moment:
She's on the computer (usually playing WOW), the TV is on behind her,
sometimes she watches what's on or is listening, but often it's
background noise. She's also listening to the radio (or a CD).
About an hour ago she was talking to the kids playing the game using
Team Speak (download-able) through a headset (the TV was on but the
radio wasn't). She's ALWAYS liked having the TV on, quite often as
background (she's said it comforts her, it feels like she's not alone,
even though she often choses solitary activities).
Just wondering.... 8-)
Jann
going on at once. This is what's going on in my dd's room at the
moment:
She's on the computer (usually playing WOW), the TV is on behind her,
sometimes she watches what's on or is listening, but often it's
background noise. She's also listening to the radio (or a CD).
About an hour ago she was talking to the kids playing the game using
Team Speak (download-able) through a headset (the TV was on but the
radio wasn't). She's ALWAYS liked having the TV on, quite often as
background (she's said it comforts her, it feels like she's not alone,
even though she often choses solitary activities).
Just wondering.... 8-)
Jann
Kris I
I don't think the TV or computer in my ds's room are ever turned off or down. My dd, on the other hand, is sensitive to sound and gets frustrated if there are too many things going on at once in her room. She likes to do more than one thing at once - gameboy and watch a movie or gameboy and listen to a CD, but only one sound on at a time.
It makes sense to me. I am 39 and like to have music or a book on tape going while I am working (I am a digital artist) or cooking or whatever. When I was in high school and college and was writing a paper or working on a project I couldn't concentrate unless the TV or a cassette (CD weren't invented!!) was playing - the background noise kept my mind focused. Otherwise it wandered - I'd be writing a sentence and wondering if Mom had been to the store yet or if my boyfriend was done with basketball practice -- whatever. I think it is my own personal "attention trait" -- I also read three or four books at a time - Not a disorder - just a thing I like to do! It makes me more interesting!
Kris
Living and learning in Montana
with Bennett 12 & Delaney 9
jlh44music <jlh44music@...> wrote:
OK, I'm just curious how many out there have kids who have many things
going on at once. This is what's going on in my dd's room at the
moment:
She's on the computer (usually playing WOW), the TV is on behind her,
sometimes she watches what's on or is listening, but often it's
background noise. She's also listening to the radio (or a CD).
About an hour ago she was talking to the kids playing the game using
Team Speak (download-able) through a headset (the TV was on but the
radio wasn't). She's ALWAYS liked having the TV on, quite often as
background (she's said it comforts her, it feels like she's not alone,
even though she often choses solitary activities).
Just wondering.... 8-)
Jann
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It makes sense to me. I am 39 and like to have music or a book on tape going while I am working (I am a digital artist) or cooking or whatever. When I was in high school and college and was writing a paper or working on a project I couldn't concentrate unless the TV or a cassette (CD weren't invented!!) was playing - the background noise kept my mind focused. Otherwise it wandered - I'd be writing a sentence and wondering if Mom had been to the store yet or if my boyfriend was done with basketball practice -- whatever. I think it is my own personal "attention trait" -- I also read three or four books at a time - Not a disorder - just a thing I like to do! It makes me more interesting!
Kris
Living and learning in Montana
with Bennett 12 & Delaney 9
jlh44music <jlh44music@...> wrote:
OK, I'm just curious how many out there have kids who have many things
going on at once. This is what's going on in my dd's room at the
moment:
She's on the computer (usually playing WOW), the TV is on behind her,
sometimes she watches what's on or is listening, but often it's
background noise. She's also listening to the radio (or a CD).
About an hour ago she was talking to the kids playing the game using
Team Speak (download-able) through a headset (the TV was on but the
radio wasn't). She's ALWAYS liked having the TV on, quite often as
background (she's said it comforts her, it feels like she's not alone,
even though she often choses solitary activities).
Just wondering.... 8-)
Jann
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From: jlh44music <jlh44music@...>
OK, I'm just curious how many out there have kids who have many
things
going on at once. This is what's going on in my dd's room at the
moment:
She's on the computer (usually playing WOW), the TV is on behind her,
sometimes she watches what's on or is listening, but often it's
background noise. She's also listening to the radio (or a CD).
About an hour ago she was talking to the kids playing the game using
Team Speak (download-able) through a headset (the TV was on but the
radio wasn't). She's ALWAYS liked having the TV on, quite often as
background (she's said it comforts her, it feels like she's not alone,
even though she often choses solitary activities).
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Neither of my boys does, but *I* did---go figure! <g>
I remember one time, at my friend Sarah's house, we were sitting on her
mom's bed playing cards---rummy or gin rummy. The tv was
on---Gilligan's Island. Radio was on: we were singing along, but I
can't remember what exactly---I think it was a MoTown girl group. The
Monopoly game was on the bed---we rolled and moved as the other drew
and discarded or shuffled. We ate cereal. My mother called (so I was
also on the phone) and asked what we were doing. <G> I guess that's why
I remember it!
I can't do that now. I do only 2-3 things at one time. I now know my
limit! LOL
I can't imagine *now* concentrating on that many things at once.
...Age <g>
~Kelly
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From: jlh44music <jlh44music@...>
OK, I'm just curious how many out there have kids who have many
things
going on at once. This is what's going on in my dd's room at the
moment:
She's on the computer (usually playing WOW), the TV is on behind her,
sometimes she watches what's on or is listening, but often it's
background noise. She's also listening to the radio (or a CD).
About an hour ago she was talking to the kids playing the game using
Team Speak (download-able) through a headset (the TV was on but the
radio wasn't). She's ALWAYS liked having the TV on, quite often as
background (she's said it comforts her, it feels like she's not alone,
even though she often choses solitary activities).
-=-=-=-=-
Neither of my boys does, but *I* did---go figure! <g>
I remember one time, at my friend Sarah's house, we were sitting on her
mom's bed playing cards---rummy or gin rummy. The tv was
on---Gilligan's Island. Radio was on: we were singing along, but I
can't remember what exactly---I think it was a MoTown girl group. The
Monopoly game was on the bed---we rolled and moved as the other drew
and discarded or shuffled. We ate cereal. My mother called (so I was
also on the phone) and asked what we were doing. <G> I guess that's why
I remember it!
I can't do that now. I do only 2-3 things at one time. I now know my
limit! LOL
I can't imagine *now* concentrating on that many things at once.
...Age <g>
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
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matter how hard we try, we can't deliberately forget something we have
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Deb
The TV is usually on as background to whatever DS is doing - unless he
decides he needs quiet to concentrate on something, then he turns it
off. For him, too much noise is too much input. For other people, they
need the sound. My DH for instance is constantly humming, whistling,
singing with whatever music is on. When I asked him about it, he said
that it helped him keep his thoughts in order. Being totally quiet in
quiet, his thoughts would fly by fast and furious and it'd be like
mentally chasing kittens. With some sort of background sound, he can
herd those kittens into something approximating single file so he can
identify each one. For me, I like the TV on as background because it
provides a frame of reference for time passing - I've got an
introvert's poor sense of external time, so hearing the start and end
theme music of Spongebob lets me know that 30 minutes has gone by.
So, there you have it - one household, 3 different takes on background
sound.
--Deb
decides he needs quiet to concentrate on something, then he turns it
off. For him, too much noise is too much input. For other people, they
need the sound. My DH for instance is constantly humming, whistling,
singing with whatever music is on. When I asked him about it, he said
that it helped him keep his thoughts in order. Being totally quiet in
quiet, his thoughts would fly by fast and furious and it'd be like
mentally chasing kittens. With some sort of background sound, he can
herd those kittens into something approximating single file so he can
identify each one. For me, I like the TV on as background because it
provides a frame of reference for time passing - I've got an
introvert's poor sense of external time, so hearing the start and end
theme music of Spongebob lets me know that 30 minutes has gone by.
So, there you have it - one household, 3 different takes on background
sound.
--Deb
freepsgal
My dd14 has always been like that. When she was little, she kept the
tv on all the time even if she was sitting somewhere else in the room
playing or reading. Nowadays, she can be online IM'ing her friends
while she has the radio and television on, and is talking on the
telephone at the same time. That's just so much going on that it
boggles my mind but she's a happy camper.
My ds9 and dd8 are not like that. They only have something on if they
are currently using it. My son easily gets over-stimulated so he
prefers quiet as much as possible. My dd8 just doesn't see the sense
in having something on that isn't being used.
Beth M.
tv on all the time even if she was sitting somewhere else in the room
playing or reading. Nowadays, she can be online IM'ing her friends
while she has the radio and television on, and is talking on the
telephone at the same time. That's just so much going on that it
boggles my mind but she's a happy camper.
My ds9 and dd8 are not like that. They only have something on if they
are currently using it. My son easily gets over-stimulated so he
prefers quiet as much as possible. My dd8 just doesn't see the sense
in having something on that isn't being used.
Beth M.
jlh44music
<bendelmom@...> wrote:
gets frustrated if there are too many things going on at once in her
room. She likes to do more than one thing at once - gameboy and
watch a movie or gameboy and listen to a CD, but only one sound on
at a time.>
didn't realize the radio was on TOO (she had the headset on). I
understand about the TV being on as opposed to just music, I, too,
like to have music on when I read etc (and I ALSO read more than one
book at the same time! lol!). She also likes a fan running at
night for white noise to sleep (we have to take it with us when we
go camping, and I think it's ONE of the reasons she has yet to go on
a sleepover). She's used a fan since she was an infant, and now I
like it too as we were sleeping in the same room, so we run fans
year round! And she always has it at a medium to low volume,
doesn't like things too loud.
Jann
>off or down. My dd, on the other hand, is sensitive to sound and
> I don't think the TV or computer in my ds's room are ever turned
gets frustrated if there are too many things going on at once in her
room. She likes to do more than one thing at once - gameboy and
watch a movie or gameboy and listen to a CD, but only one sound on
at a time.>
>...I also read three or four books at a time....>>>>Not long after I wrote that, I was in her room and she said she
didn't realize the radio was on TOO (she had the headset on). I
understand about the TV being on as opposed to just music, I, too,
like to have music on when I read etc (and I ALSO read more than one
book at the same time! lol!). She also likes a fan running at
night for white noise to sleep (we have to take it with us when we
go camping, and I think it's ONE of the reasons she has yet to go on
a sleepover). She's used a fan since she was an infant, and now I
like it too as we were sleeping in the same room, so we run fans
year round! And she always has it at a medium to low volume,
doesn't like things too loud.
Jann
Laura Healy
this sounds just like my 15yr old dd. She HAS to have
music,T.V. while working on reports or reading a book.
I drives me crazy but if that's what she need oh
well!!Laura
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music,T.V. while working on reports or reading a book.
I drives me crazy but if that's what she need oh
well!!Laura
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> OK, I'm just curious how many out there have kids__________________________________________________
> who have many things
> going on at once. This is what's going on in my
> dd's room at the
> moment:
>
> She's on the computer (usually playing WOW), the TV
> is on behind her,
> sometimes she watches what's on or is listening, but
> often it's
> background noise. She's also listening to the
> radio (or a CD).
> About an hour ago she was talking to the kids
> playing the game using
> Team Speak (download-able) through a headset (the TV
> was on but the
> radio wasn't). She's ALWAYS liked having the TV
> on, quite often as
> background (she's said it comforts her, it feels
> like she's not alone,
> even though she often choses solitary activities).
>
> Just wondering.... 8-)
> Jann
>
>
>
>
>
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Pamela Sorooshian
Very common scene at my house. You left off someone singing at the
top of their voice - or maybe two someones.
I'm not as thrilled with so much noise - it is harder for me to
concentrate and I get cranky and irritable. The kids and my husband
all seem to thrive on it.
-pam
top of their voice - or maybe two someones.
I'm not as thrilled with so much noise - it is harder for me to
concentrate and I get cranky and irritable. The kids and my husband
all seem to thrive on it.
-pam
On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:20 PM, jlh44music wrote:
> She's on the computer (usually playing WOW), the TV is on behind her,
> sometimes she watches what's on or is listening, but often it's
> background noise. She's also listening to the radio (or a CD).
> About an hour ago she was talking to the kids playing the game using
> Team Speak (download-able) through a headset (the TV was on but the
> radio wasn't). She's ALWAYS liked having the TV on, quite often as
> background (she's said it comforts her, it feels like she's not alone,
> even though she often choses solitary activities).
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Melissa
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets cranky about noise. I'm
working on being more accepting of it, but I don't know how. right
now I just breath and tell myself it's normal. I can handle better
constant noise, like TV or fan, but the hollering and stuff gets to
me. For example, right NOW Sam is playing Rampage with some friends.
He plays by jumping up and down, screaming and hollering all kinds of
sound effects and stuff. I'm really glad he's having a good time. I'm
glad he's happy. But my migraine is returning with a vengeance.
what to do? I'm about to go set up our new and improved homemade
waterpark. Outside play should be appealing enough to make N64 look
drab. Avari is asleep nursing on my lap, so I just need to put her
down and refill one pool.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
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working on being more accepting of it, but I don't know how. right
now I just breath and tell myself it's normal. I can handle better
constant noise, like TV or fan, but the hollering and stuff gets to
me. For example, right NOW Sam is playing Rampage with some friends.
He plays by jumping up and down, screaming and hollering all kinds of
sound effects and stuff. I'm really glad he's having a good time. I'm
glad he's happy. But my migraine is returning with a vengeance.
what to do? I'm about to go set up our new and improved homemade
waterpark. Outside play should be appealing enough to make N64 look
drab. Avari is asleep nursing on my lap, so I just need to put her
down and refill one pool.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
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On Jun 9, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Pamela Sorooshian wrote:
> Very common scene at my house. You left off someone singing at the
> top of their voice - or maybe two someones.
>
> I'm not as thrilled with so much noise - it is harder for me to
> concentrate and I get cranky and irritable. The kids and my husband
> all seem to thrive on it.
>
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Christy Putnam
I am glad to know we are not alone in the multi-noise arena! The boys
themselves aren't very loud all at once but Seth will do what is described
here: tv on, computer on, gameboy on and book out. I am not sure if he goes
from one to the other or what but I cant have all that going on around me so
he has to do all that in his room. I am one that cant handle too much
different noise. It is extremely hard to focus and get things done
regardless so adding distractions to that just sends me over the edge. I
don't freak out or anything but I just have to remove myself from the
situation. It usually is when we are out at a store or something. My dh is
very sensitive to this and if he sees me getting irritated he does whatever
needed to eliminate the noise factor...of course he is not always around so
I have to kinda monitor that myself usually. But again, that is usually
when we are out of the house.
Melissa,
1) Have you talked to the kids about being quieter when you have a headache?
I see this as part of the mutual respect aspect.
2) We are coming to hang out at your house, I wanna play! Of course not
during your migraine...lol
In Gratitude,
Christy Putnam
Unschooling Mom to Aden (1) and Seth (11)
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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Multi "Noise"
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets cranky about noise. I'm
working on being more accepting of it, but I don't know how. right
now I just breath and tell myself it's normal. I can handle better
constant noise, like TV or fan, but the hollering and stuff gets to
me. For example, right NOW Sam is playing Rampage with some friends.
He plays by jumping up and down, screaming and hollering all kinds of
sound effects and stuff. I'm really glad he's having a good time. I'm
glad he's happy. But my migraine is returning with a vengeance.
what to do? I'm about to go set up our new and improved homemade
waterpark. Outside play should be appealing enough to make N64 look
drab. Avari is asleep nursing on my lap, so I just need to put her
down and refill one pool.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
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themselves aren't very loud all at once but Seth will do what is described
here: tv on, computer on, gameboy on and book out. I am not sure if he goes
from one to the other or what but I cant have all that going on around me so
he has to do all that in his room. I am one that cant handle too much
different noise. It is extremely hard to focus and get things done
regardless so adding distractions to that just sends me over the edge. I
don't freak out or anything but I just have to remove myself from the
situation. It usually is when we are out at a store or something. My dh is
very sensitive to this and if he sees me getting irritated he does whatever
needed to eliminate the noise factor...of course he is not always around so
I have to kinda monitor that myself usually. But again, that is usually
when we are out of the house.
Melissa,
1) Have you talked to the kids about being quieter when you have a headache?
I see this as part of the mutual respect aspect.
2) We are coming to hang out at your house, I wanna play! Of course not
during your migraine...lol
In Gratitude,
Christy Putnam
Unschooling Mom to Aden (1) and Seth (11)
Loving wife of Chet (ann. 7/4/04)
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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Multi "Noise"
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets cranky about noise. I'm
working on being more accepting of it, but I don't know how. right
now I just breath and tell myself it's normal. I can handle better
constant noise, like TV or fan, but the hollering and stuff gets to
me. For example, right NOW Sam is playing Rampage with some friends.
He plays by jumping up and down, screaming and hollering all kinds of
sound effects and stuff. I'm really glad he's having a good time. I'm
glad he's happy. But my migraine is returning with a vengeance.
what to do? I'm about to go set up our new and improved homemade
waterpark. Outside play should be appealing enough to make N64 look
drab. Avari is asleep nursing on my lap, so I just need to put her
down and refill one pool.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
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On Jun 9, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Pamela Sorooshian wrote:
> Very common scene at my house. You left off someone singing at the
> top of their voice - or maybe two someones.
>
> I'm not as thrilled with so much noise - it is harder for me to
> concentrate and I get cranky and irritable. The kids and my husband
> all seem to thrive on it.
>
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Melissa
Eh, the older kids are pretty good about it, but Sam and Dan both are
just not at that stage yet where they see their actions affecting
other people. They do pretty good as long as I'm constantly
reminding them (and where's the fun in that?!)
You are welcome to our house anytime. Josh will be back from camp on
Sunday (we actually pick him up tomorrow but we're going to spend the
night over there and swim and hike). After that, he spends most of
June and July, Monday through Thursday at the summer school program
from 11am til ?. I'm looking at Fridays as our fun day. ;-) I'll
probably drive him over, and we'll stay at the splashpad in Norman
until he's done, then come home. I am planning on driving down to
Paul's Valley to tour the chocolate factory, you guys want to tag along?
SOunds like hell breaking loose out there, better go!
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
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just not at that stage yet where they see their actions affecting
other people. They do pretty good as long as I'm constantly
reminding them (and where's the fun in that?!)
You are welcome to our house anytime. Josh will be back from camp on
Sunday (we actually pick him up tomorrow but we're going to spend the
night over there and swim and hike). After that, he spends most of
June and July, Monday through Thursday at the summer school program
from 11am til ?. I'm looking at Fridays as our fun day. ;-) I'll
probably drive him over, and we'll stay at the splashpad in Norman
until he's done, then come home. I am planning on driving down to
Paul's Valley to tour the chocolate factory, you guys want to tag along?
SOunds like hell breaking loose out there, better go!
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
http://360.yahoo.com/multimomma
On Jun 9, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Christy Putnam wrote:
>
> Melissa,
> 1) Have you talked to the kids about being quieter when you have a
> headache?
> I see this as part of the mutual respect aspect.
> 2) We are coming to hang out at your house, I wanna play! Of course
> not
> during your migraine...lol
>
>
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jlh44music
<soggyboysmom@...> wrote:
helped him keep his thoughts in order. Being totally quiet in quiet,
his thoughts would fly by fast and furious and it'd be like
mentally chasing kittens.>>
This is my dh as well (and this is described as a trait of ADHD,
which, of course we don't care about in the unschooling world!).
He sleeps with the radio on all night (another reason it's better
we're in separate rooms! Keeps me awake...). He also has to have a
running commentary at times when watching a movie etc, which drives
ME crazy as I'm trying to focus on what's actually happening and
absorb it for later refection.
I like to read (he does not) and often when I'm sitting reading a
book, and he's in the same room, say watching TV, he starts talking
to me, doesn't even see that I'm absorbed. We've discussed this
MANY times and my solution is to read when he's not here or in
another room (but sometimes I'm really into the book and can't put
it down!).
of external time, so hearing the start and end theme music of
Spongebob lets me know that 30 minutes has gone by.>>
This is VERY interesting Deb! Danielle has absolutely NO sense of
time passing, which, when she was in school last year, was one of
the worst "problems" in trying to fit in (getting her moving in the
morning to catch the bus, moving between classes, hard time
transitioning to get to the next class etc). She's also a
visual/spatial learner, right brained, big picture, non-sequential
and part of that is her 3-D way of thinking. Even though she knows
how to tell time by looking at a clock (both digital and analog),
she VERY often asks me "what time is it?", and that's when there's a
clock in the same room for her to reference. I don't think it
actually has anything to do with wanting to know the actual TIME,
but more with "where am I?" (and that's not a very good description,
I'm still trying to understand - anyone have any insight?). When I
ask her why she asks, she looks at me with a blank expression, she's
truly unaware of why I'm even asking her.
Jann
>My DH for instance is constantly humming, whistling, singing withwhatever music is on. When I asked him about it, he said that it
helped him keep his thoughts in order. Being totally quiet in quiet,
his thoughts would fly by fast and furious and it'd be like
mentally chasing kittens.>>
This is my dh as well (and this is described as a trait of ADHD,
which, of course we don't care about in the unschooling world!).
He sleeps with the radio on all night (another reason it's better
we're in separate rooms! Keeps me awake...). He also has to have a
running commentary at times when watching a movie etc, which drives
ME crazy as I'm trying to focus on what's actually happening and
absorb it for later refection.
I like to read (he does not) and often when I'm sitting reading a
book, and he's in the same room, say watching TV, he starts talking
to me, doesn't even see that I'm absorbed. We've discussed this
MANY times and my solution is to read when he's not here or in
another room (but sometimes I'm really into the book and can't put
it down!).
> For me, I like the TV on as background because it provides a frameof reference for time passing - I've got an introvert's poor sense
of external time, so hearing the start and end theme music of
Spongebob lets me know that 30 minutes has gone by.>>
This is VERY interesting Deb! Danielle has absolutely NO sense of
time passing, which, when she was in school last year, was one of
the worst "problems" in trying to fit in (getting her moving in the
morning to catch the bus, moving between classes, hard time
transitioning to get to the next class etc). She's also a
visual/spatial learner, right brained, big picture, non-sequential
and part of that is her 3-D way of thinking. Even though she knows
how to tell time by looking at a clock (both digital and analog),
she VERY often asks me "what time is it?", and that's when there's a
clock in the same room for her to reference. I don't think it
actually has anything to do with wanting to know the actual TIME,
but more with "where am I?" (and that's not a very good description,
I'm still trying to understand - anyone have any insight?). When I
ask her why she asks, she looks at me with a blank expression, she's
truly unaware of why I'm even asking her.
Jann
jlh44music
<autismhelp@...> wrote:
I just breath and tell myself it's normal. I can handle better
constant noise, like TV or fan, but the hollering and stuff gets to
me.>
I get really cranky with lots of loud noise as well (and I guess
that's part of why I was blessed with only one child! lol!).
Jann
> Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets cranky about noise. I'mworking on being more accepting of it, but I don't know how. right now
I just breath and tell myself it's normal. I can handle better
constant noise, like TV or fan, but the hollering and stuff gets to
me.>
I get really cranky with lots of loud noise as well (and I guess
that's part of why I was blessed with only one child! lol!).
Jann
Deb
--- In [email protected], "jlh44music"
<jlh44music@...> wrote:
took him a while to adjust to having to wear a CPAP device to sleep
for his apnea (as to what it sounds like, DS took to calling
him "Darth Daddy" when he first got it). Fortunately, having spent
quite a few years sharing a room with a 5 yrs younger sibling, I can
sleep with lights, music, TV, just about anything - up to and
including DS draped all across me (providing, of course, that I've
got a wee space to breath through lol).
focus and not be interrupted.
up, each with a book, and read through a long winter's night. But,
yeah, sometimes he'll just start commenting on something and
I'm "huh? I didn't catch that - I was reading." He's finally learned
to signal (say my name or something) and then pause for me to look
up before he starts on whatever he wants to say - or he knows that
he can talk and talk and I will eventually catch up - sometimes he
just has to say a thought out loud and doesn't really -need- me to
react to it or respond so he'll just say it.
printed word oriented. As I've gotten older, though, I've moved more
toward the center between left and right brained. My sister is very
much right brained (graphic artist by training and by choice) - I
spent a couple years helping "translate" word problems into picture
problems when she was in high school - once she could picture it,
she had no problem solving it, the words just got in the way and
caused confusion.
for an hour and now it's time to get ready for dinner. Sort of
similar to when you've been on vacation for a week and get home, put
your stuff down, and look around the room *even though no one's been
there for a week, nothing's changed*. It's a way to orient yourself.
Like in Dr. Who (the final episode for the season is on tonight! I
think I'm going to miss the current Doctor when the new one starts
next season) one of the first questions they ask is "What year is
it?" The answer to that fills in a whole myriad of information -
people, places, situations, events all fall into place just by
knowing the year (time).
asking what time is it? makes perfect sense in orienting oneself to
the environment. I'll often ask DH or DS what time it is if I can't
easily see a clock and even sometimes when I can, if I know they can
also. DS is 8 and he already knows that quelle heur est'il? (don't
know if I spelled that correctly) means I want to know what time it
is. Or, I'll tap my left wrist with my right index finger like
tapping a watch and they know.
--Deb
<jlh44music@...> wrote:
> He sleeps with the radio on all night (another reason it's betterOddly enough, my DH wants total silence and darkness to sleep. It
> we're in separate rooms! Keeps me awake...).
took him a while to adjust to having to wear a CPAP device to sleep
for his apnea (as to what it sounds like, DS took to calling
him "Darth Daddy" when he first got it). Fortunately, having spent
quite a few years sharing a room with a 5 yrs younger sibling, I can
sleep with lights, music, TV, just about anything - up to and
including DS draped all across me (providing, of course, that I've
got a wee space to breath through lol).
>He also has to have aSometimes DH will do this - and sometimes he wants to absolutely
> running commentary at times when watching a movie etc, which
>drives
> ME crazy as I'm trying to focus on what's actually happening and
> absorb it for later refection.
focus and not be interrupted.
> I like to read (he does not)DH and I both love reading which works out nice when we all snuggle
up, each with a book, and read through a long winter's night. But,
yeah, sometimes he'll just start commenting on something and
I'm "huh? I didn't catch that - I was reading." He's finally learned
to signal (say my name or something) and then pause for me to look
up before he starts on whatever he wants to say - or he knows that
he can talk and talk and I will eventually catch up - sometimes he
just has to say a thought out loud and doesn't really -need- me to
react to it or respond so he'll just say it.
>Oddly enough, I'm way more left brained, detailed, list making,
> She's also a
> visual/spatial learner, right brained, big picture, non-sequential
> and part of that is her 3-D way of thinking.
printed word oriented. As I've gotten older, though, I've moved more
toward the center between left and right brained. My sister is very
much right brained (graphic artist by training and by choice) - I
spent a couple years helping "translate" word problems into picture
problems when she was in high school - once she could picture it,
she had no problem solving it, the words just got in the way and
caused confusion.
>Even though she knowsa
> how to tell time by looking at a clock (both digital and analog),
> she VERY often asks me "what time is it?", and that's when there's
> clock in the same room for her to reference. I don't think itThat makes perfect sense to me - if it's 4:30 then I've been reading
> actually has anything to do with wanting to know the actual TIME,
> but more with "where am I?" (and that's not a very good
>description,
> I'm still trying to understand - anyone have any insight?).
for an hour and now it's time to get ready for dinner. Sort of
similar to when you've been on vacation for a week and get home, put
your stuff down, and look around the room *even though no one's been
there for a week, nothing's changed*. It's a way to orient yourself.
Like in Dr. Who (the final episode for the season is on tonight! I
think I'm going to miss the current Doctor when the new one starts
next season) one of the first questions they ask is "What year is
it?" The answer to that fills in a whole myriad of information -
people, places, situations, events all fall into place just by
knowing the year (time).
> When Iwell, yeah - to her time and space are all one large entity so
> ask her why she asks, she looks at me with a blank expression,
>she's
> truly unaware of why I'm even asking her.
asking what time is it? makes perfect sense in orienting oneself to
the environment. I'll often ask DH or DS what time it is if I can't
easily see a clock and even sometimes when I can, if I know they can
also. DS is 8 and he already knows that quelle heur est'il? (don't
know if I spelled that correctly) means I want to know what time it
is. Or, I'll tap my left wrist with my right index finger like
tapping a watch and they know.
--Deb
jlh44music
<soggyboysmom@...> wrote:
him "Darth Daddy" when he first got it).>>
My dh needs to pursue this (sleep apnea), he keeps talking about
doing it but has yet to do so. I can hear him snoring through the
wall with both bedroom doors shut AND a fan running near me!
say....>
Yeah, well, I was TRYING to get him to do this, but he (and dd) are
both so immediate, when they have something to say, they have to SAY
it right away or they forget what they were going to say.
That's true for him, too, SOMETIMES, but quite often he expects a
response, and sometimes I really DON'T have any comment (except
a "hmmm hmmm" etc).
toward the center between left and right brained.>>
I'm in the middle of right and left brained, but I AM more detail
oriented than either of them (I like making lists too).
problems into picture problems when she was in high school - once
she could picture it, she had no problem solving it, the words just
got in the way and caused confusion.>
This is exactly my dd! And one of the reasons she was "falling
behind" in school. I tried to educate her teachers (guidance
counselor, principal etc) about this, but got a lot of "lip
service". They were not interested. So, I figured since I was
spending so much time with her at home after school trying to keep
her from failing her courses (never mind actually LEARNING the
material, how many really remember everything after they've "passed
the tests"), then I might as well homeschool her!
"I'm still trying to understand - anyone have any insight?)."
of similar to when you've been on vacation for a week and get home,
put your stuff down, and look around the room *even though no one's
been there for a week, nothing's changed*. It's a way to orient
yourself.>>
I understand what you're saying ("it's 4:30, and I know I have to
start making dinner to have enough time for it to be ready for when
dh gets home at 5:30 etc"), but I'm not really sure that that's how
she orients herself to place and time. She often also asks what
day it is (not being in school, she has no point of reference as
she's been staying home quite a bit (not many outside activities,
like karate on Tuesdays, etc etc), except for the past 2 months
she's been going to sing in the middle school chorus twice a week (I
think I shared that story, of how she asked a few months ago if
she'd be able to sing with them for the rest of the year?). Even
then, I had to remind her the night before that I'd be waking her up
earlier than her normal "getting up when she was done sleeping" time
to get there on time. And I had to push her to move out the door
to get there ON TIME. NO sense of urgency, as in "oh, I'd better
leave now because I know it takes us 5 mins to get there to be in
the chorus room by 1:15". I'm not like this at all (plus being a
musician, I have to be at a gig at a certain time, you don't just
saunter in whenever, or you don't get called again! Plus you're
with a group that depends on everyone being there together to
rehearse or play, that's the point!).
"When I ask her why she asks, she looks at me with a blank
expression, she's truly unaware of why I'm even asking her."
the environment.>>
This is still something I'm having a hard time grasping right now.
I need to chew on this some more......
She asks whether or NOT there's a clock in the room, it doesn't
occur to her (it seems) to look for herself (and we have a clock of
some sort in almost every room!). She's had watched in the past,
but is bothered by the feel of them (she's an HSP "highly sensitive
person", I'm grateful to Anne O and the "shine" group for helping me
understand this! BOTH she and my dh are HSP!). Some people would
say it's laziness, but I feel it's something else entirely. Plus
she often has no clue how long she's been on the computer, and often
seems surprised it's been "that long?"
Don't know if it's spelled correctly, but I had 6 years of French
and I knew what you meant! Lol!
Thanks for your thoughts Deb. You've given me some good things to
ponder.
Jann
> It took him a while to adjust to having to wear a CPAP device tosleep for his apnea (as to what it sounds like, DS took to calling
him "Darth Daddy" when he first got it).>>
My dh needs to pursue this (sleep apnea), he keeps talking about
doing it but has yet to do so. I can hear him snoring through the
wall with both bedroom doors shut AND a fan running near me!
>He's finally learned to signal (say my name or something) and thenpause for me to look up before he starts on whatever he wants to
say....>
Yeah, well, I was TRYING to get him to do this, but he (and dd) are
both so immediate, when they have something to say, they have to SAY
it right away or they forget what they were going to say.
>sometimes he just has to say a thought out loud and doesn't really -need- me to react to it or respond so he'll just say it.>>>
That's true for him, too, SOMETIMES, but quite often he expects a
response, and sometimes I really DON'T have any comment (except
a "hmmm hmmm" etc).
> Oddly enough, I'm way more left brained, detailed, list making,printed word oriented. As I've gotten older, though, I've moved more
toward the center between left and right brained.>>
I'm in the middle of right and left brained, but I AM more detail
oriented than either of them (I like making lists too).
> My sister is very much right brained (graphic artist by trainingand by choice) - I spent a couple years helping "translate" word
problems into picture problems when she was in high school - once
she could picture it, she had no problem solving it, the words just
got in the way and caused confusion.>
This is exactly my dd! And one of the reasons she was "falling
behind" in school. I tried to educate her teachers (guidance
counselor, principal etc) about this, but got a lot of "lip
service". They were not interested. So, I figured since I was
spending so much time with her at home after school trying to keep
her from failing her courses (never mind actually LEARNING the
material, how many really remember everything after they've "passed
the tests"), then I might as well homeschool her!
"I'm still trying to understand - anyone have any insight?)."
> That makes perfect sense to me - if it's 4:30 then I've beenreading for an hour and now it's time to get ready for dinner. Sort
of similar to when you've been on vacation for a week and get home,
put your stuff down, and look around the room *even though no one's
been there for a week, nothing's changed*. It's a way to orient
yourself.>>
I understand what you're saying ("it's 4:30, and I know I have to
start making dinner to have enough time for it to be ready for when
dh gets home at 5:30 etc"), but I'm not really sure that that's how
she orients herself to place and time. She often also asks what
day it is (not being in school, she has no point of reference as
she's been staying home quite a bit (not many outside activities,
like karate on Tuesdays, etc etc), except for the past 2 months
she's been going to sing in the middle school chorus twice a week (I
think I shared that story, of how she asked a few months ago if
she'd be able to sing with them for the rest of the year?). Even
then, I had to remind her the night before that I'd be waking her up
earlier than her normal "getting up when she was done sleeping" time
to get there on time. And I had to push her to move out the door
to get there ON TIME. NO sense of urgency, as in "oh, I'd better
leave now because I know it takes us 5 mins to get there to be in
the chorus room by 1:15". I'm not like this at all (plus being a
musician, I have to be at a gig at a certain time, you don't just
saunter in whenever, or you don't get called again! Plus you're
with a group that depends on everyone being there together to
rehearse or play, that's the point!).
"When I ask her why she asks, she looks at me with a blank
expression, she's truly unaware of why I'm even asking her."
> well, yeah - to her time and space are all one large entity soasking what time is it? makes perfect sense in orienting oneself to
the environment.>>
This is still something I'm having a hard time grasping right now.
I need to chew on this some more......
> I'll often ask DH or DS what time it is if I can't easily see aclock and even sometimes when I can, if I know they can also.>>
She asks whether or NOT there's a clock in the room, it doesn't
occur to her (it seems) to look for herself (and we have a clock of
some sort in almost every room!). She's had watched in the past,
but is bothered by the feel of them (she's an HSP "highly sensitive
person", I'm grateful to Anne O and the "shine" group for helping me
understand this! BOTH she and my dh are HSP!). Some people would
say it's laziness, but I feel it's something else entirely. Plus
she often has no clue how long she's been on the computer, and often
seems surprised it's been "that long?"
> DS is 8 and he already knows that quelle heur est'il? (don'tknow if I spelled that correctly)>
Don't know if it's spelled correctly, but I had 6 years of French
and I knew what you meant! Lol!
Thanks for your thoughts Deb. You've given me some good things to
ponder.
Jann
jlh44music
<jlh44music@...> wrote:
Jann
> She's had watched in the past,......>watches!
Jann
Christy Putnam
Hey, When would you want some company? I am really feeling a need to come
visit ya'll. We are free Monday next week (short notice I know) or Tuesdays
and Fridays in July.
I would also love to go to the Sam Noble Museum sometime in July before Sue
leaves. I am thinking if you don't wanna take the whole family we could
come get Josh, if he wants to come...pretty much up to you all. If you
wanna bring the family, I might see about making it an ONPH field
trip...what do you think? I am not opposed to it just being our families so
really whatever you think would be best.
The chocolate factory is not really much of a factory...mainly just a store
with a couple of windows where you can watch them put chocolate on chips and
package them. I think we will pass this time.
What is the splash pad in Norman like? If you can let me know a couple days
before you go we might join ya'll.
Kinda OT, I wanted to comment on the dream you shared a while back...WAY
COOL. I really wish I could get to that place. I keep telling myself that
once we get our own place I can be more free to let Seth do whatever but
there is a part of me that asks, why wait till then? Another part of me
thinks I need to let this stuff happen slowly because of Chet's comfort
level with it all...not to mention mine...lol. Anyway, I think it is great
that you had that dream and are processing things as much as you are...what
a wonderful journey!
If you ever wanna call, feel free. Home is 787-3855 and Cell is 476-0713.
I best get a shower (lol, no I haven't had one yet and it is almost 4pm) and
go get my paycheck before I put it off till tomorrow! Talk to you soon!
Christy Putnam
<http://blog.myspace.com/personal_balance>
http://blog.myspace.com/personal_balance
Independent Executive
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Live the life you have always imagined."
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_____
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Multi "Noise"
Eh, the older kids are pretty good about it, but Sam and Dan both are
just not at that stage yet where they see their actions affecting
other people. They do pretty good as long as I'm constantly
reminding them (and where's the fun in that?!)
You are welcome to our house anytime. Josh will be back from camp on
Sunday (we actually pick him up tomorrow but we're going to spend the
night over there and swim and hike). After that, he spends most of
June and July, Monday through Thursday at the summer school program
from 11am til ?. I'm looking at Fridays as our fun day. ;-) I'll
probably drive him over, and we'll stay at the splashpad in Norman
until he's done, then come home. I am planning on driving down to
Paul's Valley to tour the chocolate factory, you guys want to tag along?
SOunds like hell breaking loose out there, better go!
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
http://360.yahoo <http://360.yahoo.com/multimomma> com/multimomma
visit ya'll. We are free Monday next week (short notice I know) or Tuesdays
and Fridays in July.
I would also love to go to the Sam Noble Museum sometime in July before Sue
leaves. I am thinking if you don't wanna take the whole family we could
come get Josh, if he wants to come...pretty much up to you all. If you
wanna bring the family, I might see about making it an ONPH field
trip...what do you think? I am not opposed to it just being our families so
really whatever you think would be best.
The chocolate factory is not really much of a factory...mainly just a store
with a couple of windows where you can watch them put chocolate on chips and
package them. I think we will pass this time.
What is the splash pad in Norman like? If you can let me know a couple days
before you go we might join ya'll.
Kinda OT, I wanted to comment on the dream you shared a while back...WAY
COOL. I really wish I could get to that place. I keep telling myself that
once we get our own place I can be more free to let Seth do whatever but
there is a part of me that asks, why wait till then? Another part of me
thinks I need to let this stuff happen slowly because of Chet's comfort
level with it all...not to mention mine...lol. Anyway, I think it is great
that you had that dream and are processing things as much as you are...what
a wonderful journey!
If you ever wanna call, feel free. Home is 787-3855 and Cell is 476-0713.
I best get a shower (lol, no I haven't had one yet and it is almost 4pm) and
go get my paycheck before I put it off till tomorrow! Talk to you soon!
Christy Putnam
<http://blog.myspace.com/personal_balance>
http://blog.myspace.com/personal_balance
Independent Executive
Discover a way to increase
your health and/or income! <http://practicalsolution.info/>
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"Go confidently in the direction of your dreams.
Live the life you have always imagined."
- Henry David Thoreau
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Multi "Noise"
Eh, the older kids are pretty good about it, but Sam and Dan both are
just not at that stage yet where they see their actions affecting
other people. They do pretty good as long as I'm constantly
reminding them (and where's the fun in that?!)
You are welcome to our house anytime. Josh will be back from camp on
Sunday (we actually pick him up tomorrow but we're going to spend the
night over there and swim and hike). After that, he spends most of
June and July, Monday through Thursday at the summer school program
from 11am til ?. I'm looking at Fridays as our fun day. ;-) I'll
probably drive him over, and we'll stay at the splashpad in Norman
until he's done, then come home. I am planning on driving down to
Paul's Valley to tour the chocolate factory, you guys want to tag along?
SOunds like hell breaking loose out there, better go!
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
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On Jun 9, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Christy Putnam wrote:
>
> Melissa,
> 1) Have you talked to the kids about being quieter when you have a
> headache?
> I see this as part of the mutual respect aspect.
> 2) We are coming to hang out at your house, I wanna play! Of course
> not
> during your migraine...lol
>
>
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Melissa
Sure, Josh is gone from 11:30 til 2pm, Monday through Thursday.
Friday's are open. I'd like the museum...splashpad is awesome. We
usually try to hit it exactly at noon because the daycares leave then
to feed their masses. I'll let you know next time.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
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Friday's are open. I'd like the museum...splashpad is awesome. We
usually try to hit it exactly at noon because the daycares leave then
to feed their masses. I'll let you know next time.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
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On Jun 21, 2006, at 3:46 PM, Christy Putnam wrote:
> Hey, When would you want some company? I am really feeling a need
> to come
> visit ya'll. We are free Monday next week (short notice I know) or
> Tuesdays
> and Fridays in July.
>
> I would also love to go to the Sam Noble Museum sometime in July
> before Sue
> leaves. I am thinking if you don't wanna take the whole family we
> could
> come get Josh, if he wants to come...pretty much up to you all. If you
> wanna bring the family, I might see about making it an ONPH field
> trip...what do you think? I am not opposed to it just being our
> families so
> really whatever you think would be best.
>
> The chocolate factory is not really much of a factory...mainly just
> a store
> with a couple of windows where you can watch them put chocolate on
> chips and
> package them. I think we will pass this time.
>
> What is the splash pad in Norman like? If you can let me know a
> couple days
> before you go we might join ya'll.
>
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Melissa
Glad I'm not the only one who keeps putting showers off longer and
longer. It's kind of one of those choices things. :0
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
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longer. It's kind of one of those choices things. :0
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
share our lives at
http://360.yahoo.com/multimomma
On Jun 21, 2006, at 3:46 PM, Christy Putnam wrote:
>
> I best get a shower (lol, no I haven't had one yet and it is almost
> 4pm) and
> go get my paycheck before I put it off till tomorrow! Talk to you
> soon!
>
>
>
> .
>
>
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