Upset need some support
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I never realized how lonely it can be to be an unschooler sometimes. Today
for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of crazy town"
when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling.
Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
up and grabbed him and ran off. Landen started bawling. And it just broke
my heart to hear him. I sat there and just cried and cried with my son on my
lap.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of crazy town"
when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling.
Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
up and grabbed him and ran off. Landen started bawling. And it just broke
my heart to hear him. I sat there and just cried and cried with my son on my
lap.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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Joanne
Wow...talk about rude!!
I'm sorry you were hurt by someone so insensative. It's her loss.
My favorite quote is by Elenaor Roosevelt, "Nobody can make you feel
inferior without your permission". :-)
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (7), Shawna (10) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 30, 2003
http://anunschoolinglife.blogspot.com/
http://foreverparents.com
I'm sorry you were hurt by someone so insensative. It's her loss.
My favorite quote is by Elenaor Roosevelt, "Nobody can make you feel
inferior without your permission". :-)
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (7), Shawna (10) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 30, 2003
http://anunschoolinglife.blogspot.com/
http://foreverparents.com
--- In [email protected], SquishyMommy1@... wrote:
>
> I never realized how lonely it can be to be an unschooler
sometimes. Today
> for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of
crazy town"
> when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where
unschooling.
> Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and
she just got
> up and grabbed him and ran off. Landen started bawling. And it
just broke
> my heart to hear him. I sat there and just cried and cried with
my son on my
> lap.
>
> ~Alyssa
> Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7
months)
>
> "Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been
hurt, and
> dance like you do when nobody's watching."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/19/2006 10:09:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
billyandjoanne@... writes:
Wow...talk about rude!!
I'm sorry you were hurt by someone so insensative. It's her loss.
My favorite quote is by Elenaor Roosevelt, "Nobody can make you feel
inferior without your permission".
TY Joanne
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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billyandjoanne@... writes:
Wow...talk about rude!!
I'm sorry you were hurt by someone so insensative. It's her loss.
My favorite quote is by Elenaor Roosevelt, "Nobody can make you feel
inferior without your permission".
TY Joanne
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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Ren Allen
"I sat there and just cried and cried with my son on my
lap."
All I can say is WOW!! I can't believe someone reacted that harshly to
unschooling. I'm so sorry you had such a rotten experience.
Just remember, the universe is helping you weed through the unecessary
people so you can get to some really deep, beautiful and rich
relationships that will last a lifetime.:)
The conference is a great place to meet with like minded
folks......it's SO worth going into debt over.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
lap."
All I can say is WOW!! I can't believe someone reacted that harshly to
unschooling. I'm so sorry you had such a rotten experience.
Just remember, the universe is helping you weed through the unecessary
people so you can get to some really deep, beautiful and rich
relationships that will last a lifetime.:)
The conference is a great place to meet with like minded
folks......it's SO worth going into debt over.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/19/2006 10:10:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
Just remember, the universe is helping you weed through the unecessary
people so you can get to some really deep, beautiful and rich
relationships that will last a lifetime.:)
The conference is a great place to meet with like minded
folks......it's SO worth going into debt over.
Thanks Ren LOL i'll remember that when we are living in a cardboard box. HA
HA. BTW who am i sending this tape to? LMAO
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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starsuncloud@... writes:
Just remember, the universe is helping you weed through the unecessary
people so you can get to some really deep, beautiful and rich
relationships that will last a lifetime.:)
The conference is a great place to meet with like minded
folks......it's SO worth going into debt over.
Thanks Ren LOL i'll remember that when we are living in a cardboard box. HA
HA. BTW who am i sending this tape to? LMAO
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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Rebecca DeLong
{{{{hugs}}}}
I'm so sorry, how sad for you guys!
I've gotten some pretty harsh responses before, but not like this.
I hope you are both feeling better.
~Rebecca
SquishyMommy1@... wrote:
I never realized how lonely it can be to be an unschooler sometimes. Today
for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of crazy town"
when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling.
Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
up and grabbed him and ran off. Landen started bawling. And it just broke
my heart to hear him. I sat there and just cried and cried with my son on my
lap.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis ~Martha Beck~
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I'm so sorry, how sad for you guys!
I've gotten some pretty harsh responses before, but not like this.
I hope you are both feeling better.
~Rebecca
SquishyMommy1@... wrote:
I never realized how lonely it can be to be an unschooler sometimes. Today
for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of crazy town"
when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling.
Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
up and grabbed him and ran off. Landen started bawling. And it just broke
my heart to hear him. I sat there and just cried and cried with my son on my
lap.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis ~Martha Beck~
3boysleadtheway@...
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[email protected]
In a message dated 5/19/2006 10:13:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
elfmama_2@... writes:
{{{{hugs}}}}
I'm so sorry, how sad for you guys!
I've gotten some pretty harsh responses before, but not like this.
I hope you are both feeling better.
We are thank you Rebecca. Landen got a big old cookie when we got home.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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elfmama_2@... writes:
{{{{hugs}}}}
I'm so sorry, how sad for you guys!
I've gotten some pretty harsh responses before, but not like this.
I hope you are both feeling better.
We are thank you Rebecca. Landen got a big old cookie when we got home.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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Rebecca DeLong
SquishyMommy1@... wrote:
. Landen got a big old cookie when we got home.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mmmmmm.....cookies....my ND has me on a no refined starches and sugars and...(well the no list goes on and on) for the next month and I don't think I have ever wanted a cookie so bad in my life. Have Landen eat one for me :)
~Rebecca
Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis ~Martha Beck~
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. Landen got a big old cookie when we got home.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mmmmmm.....cookies....my ND has me on a no refined starches and sugars and...(well the no list goes on and on) for the next month and I don't think I have ever wanted a cookie so bad in my life. Have Landen eat one for me :)
~Rebecca
Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis ~Martha Beck~
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In a message dated 5/19/2006 10:22:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
elfmama_2@... writes:
SquishyMommy1@... wrote:
. Landen got a big old cookie when we got home.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mmmmmm.....cookies....my ND has me on a no refined starches and sugars
and...(well the no list goes on and on) for the next month and I don't think I
have ever wanted a cookie so bad in my life. Have Landen eat one for me :)
Well ha ha just your luck these are made with Xylitol and wheat flour. LOL
but you probly still cant eat it. I'll eat one for you. LOL
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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elfmama_2@... writes:
SquishyMommy1@... wrote:
. Landen got a big old cookie when we got home.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mmmmmm.....cookies....my ND has me on a no refined starches and sugars
and...(well the no list goes on and on) for the next month and I don't think I
have ever wanted a cookie so bad in my life. Have Landen eat one for me :)
Well ha ha just your luck these are made with Xylitol and wheat flour. LOL
but you probly still cant eat it. I'll eat one for you. LOL
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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Rebecca DeLong
SquishyMommy1@... wrote:
Well ha ha just your luck these are made with Xylitol and wheat flour. LOL
but you probly still cant eat it. I'll eat one for you. LOL
~~~~~~~~~~~
Hmmmm, probably not. I've been eyeballin' a package of oreos on our counter, one of dh friends left it, none of us really like oreos, but I was told I shouldn't/can't eat certain things right now. Makes me want them all the more :P
~Rebecca
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Well ha ha just your luck these are made with Xylitol and wheat flour. LOL
but you probly still cant eat it. I'll eat one for you. LOL
~~~~~~~~~~~
Hmmmm, probably not. I've been eyeballin' a package of oreos on our counter, one of dh friends left it, none of us really like oreos, but I was told I shouldn't/can't eat certain things right now. Makes me want them all the more :P
~Rebecca
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Pampered Chef Michelle
On 5/19/06, SquishyMommy1@... <SquishyMommy1@...> wrote:
confused :)
Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
That maybe he might get a creative spirit? Oh Oh Oh, I know, he might try
to think for himself! Know what? I think I'll relinquish my title to her.
She is truly the crazy one! I think you should get a t-shirt made for
Landen. It can say, "Warning: I unschool. Being in my presence for excess
amounts of time may cause you to think for yourself."
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
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>Sorry, but *I* claim the title of Queen of Crazy Town. She obviously is
> Today
> for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of crazy
> town"
> when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where
> unschooling.
confused :)
Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
> up and grabbed him and ran off.Wow what was she afraid of? That independence might rub off on her son?
That maybe he might get a creative spirit? Oh Oh Oh, I know, he might try
to think for himself! Know what? I think I'll relinquish my title to her.
She is truly the crazy one! I think you should get a t-shirt made for
Landen. It can say, "Warning: I unschool. Being in my presence for excess
amounts of time may cause you to think for yourself."
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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marji
At 22:20 5/19/2006, you wrote:
in the moment, but in retrospect I'm always grateful to folks like
this who take themselves out of my life without me having to do any
of the hard stuff. I think they're really doing me a huge
favor. Imagine if a relationship with such a frightened,
insensitive, judgmental, rude, impulsive person were to
continue! And, with kids involved! Ugh!!
I guess almost everything I do could be considered "out there" by the
mainstream of our society. A friend once said this to my
husband: "Whenever you are doing something that's out of the
mainstream, it's imperative that you surround yourself with some kind
of like-minded community that's also out of the mainstream, if only
to keep your head straight about what you're doing and where you're going."
That's why I found La Leche League meetings so crucial when my son
was younger, and that blossomed into other relationships that
supported our lifestyle choices. I would say that most if not all of
the relationships we have had were with other families who co-slept
with their kids and did extended breastfeeding (we knew several
families with kids breastfeeding up to ages 5 and 6 and even
beyond!). Many folks intended to homeschool and were at least able
to converse about unschooling. In fact, I first learned about
unschooling at a group that grew out of a LLL group I was in when my
son was still in-arms.
I've really gone off on a little tangent here, but I guess the more
you can intentionally surround yourself with like-minded folks, the
easier you will find it to stay on your path and feel good about your
choices. This email discussion list and others like it are
absolutely crucial, in my opinion, even if you never post. Even if
what you do is out of the norm in mainstream society, it's YOUR norm,
and that's all that matters. If you can make it to any of the
conferences, you'll be astounded at how easy it will be for you to
feel at home with hundreds of folks you've never even met before!
Another idea might be trying to get a regular weekly or monthly
attachment parenting park day going (hanging up flyers in health-food
stores and libraries) and seeing what kind of face-to-face community
you can build for yourself and the kids.
This is a whole lot more info than you even asked for! I hope it's a
little helpful.
Stay strong,
Marji, a rather verbose woman who seems to be unable to end a post
without some kind of a P.S.
P.S. I have also found that it's best to keep most information
about myself a little close to the vest until I get a good read on
where folks are at. All that stuff that I said earlier
notwithstanding, I prefer--if I can--to be the one to make a choice
about who is in my life. Frankly, I prefer not to call attention to
myself and my out-of-the-mainstream ways unless I have some idea of
the other party's level of tolerance for such things.
_.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._
<http://www.gaiawolf.org/>GaiaWolf
"The animals of this world exist for their own reasons. They were
not made for humans any more than blacks were made for whites or
women created for men."
~Alice Walker
_.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._
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>I never realized how lonely it can be to be an unschooler sometimes. TodaySheesh! That's a really tough experience. It's hard to realize this
>for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of
>crazy town"
>when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling.
>Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
>up and grabbed him and ran off. Landen started bawling. And it just broke
>my heart to hear him. I sat there and just cried and cried with my
>son on my
>lap.
>
>~Alyssa
>Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
in the moment, but in retrospect I'm always grateful to folks like
this who take themselves out of my life without me having to do any
of the hard stuff. I think they're really doing me a huge
favor. Imagine if a relationship with such a frightened,
insensitive, judgmental, rude, impulsive person were to
continue! And, with kids involved! Ugh!!
I guess almost everything I do could be considered "out there" by the
mainstream of our society. A friend once said this to my
husband: "Whenever you are doing something that's out of the
mainstream, it's imperative that you surround yourself with some kind
of like-minded community that's also out of the mainstream, if only
to keep your head straight about what you're doing and where you're going."
That's why I found La Leche League meetings so crucial when my son
was younger, and that blossomed into other relationships that
supported our lifestyle choices. I would say that most if not all of
the relationships we have had were with other families who co-slept
with their kids and did extended breastfeeding (we knew several
families with kids breastfeeding up to ages 5 and 6 and even
beyond!). Many folks intended to homeschool and were at least able
to converse about unschooling. In fact, I first learned about
unschooling at a group that grew out of a LLL group I was in when my
son was still in-arms.
I've really gone off on a little tangent here, but I guess the more
you can intentionally surround yourself with like-minded folks, the
easier you will find it to stay on your path and feel good about your
choices. This email discussion list and others like it are
absolutely crucial, in my opinion, even if you never post. Even if
what you do is out of the norm in mainstream society, it's YOUR norm,
and that's all that matters. If you can make it to any of the
conferences, you'll be astounded at how easy it will be for you to
feel at home with hundreds of folks you've never even met before!
Another idea might be trying to get a regular weekly or monthly
attachment parenting park day going (hanging up flyers in health-food
stores and libraries) and seeing what kind of face-to-face community
you can build for yourself and the kids.
This is a whole lot more info than you even asked for! I hope it's a
little helpful.
Stay strong,
Marji, a rather verbose woman who seems to be unable to end a post
without some kind of a P.S.
P.S. I have also found that it's best to keep most information
about myself a little close to the vest until I get a good read on
where folks are at. All that stuff that I said earlier
notwithstanding, I prefer--if I can--to be the one to make a choice
about who is in my life. Frankly, I prefer not to call attention to
myself and my out-of-the-mainstream ways unless I have some idea of
the other party's level of tolerance for such things.
_.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._
<http://www.gaiawolf.org/>GaiaWolf
"The animals of this world exist for their own reasons. They were
not made for humans any more than blacks were made for whites or
women created for men."
~Alice Walker
_.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._.:~`^'~:._
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Karen Mann
On 5/19/06, Ren Allen <starsuncloud@...> wrote:
me, but the Universe sent it to me this morning. You see, I've been having
trouble with my in-laws for years and this recent decision to unschool
(about a year ago) really put a huge kink in the relationships. Last night
I decided that i just can't be around them anymore and told my dh. He
totally understands. The last time I tried to talk to my sil about
homeschooling (2 weeks ago), she told me I was psycho. In front of my kids
to boot! Stormed out of my house, telling me to have a shitty life, cuz
that's what I am giving my kids.
Today is my nephew's birthday party and I just don't have the strength to
deal with them anymore. I realized that just because I'm married to John,
doesn't mean I have to like his family or be around them. I feel so free
with this decision. Ren, your quote just confirmed this decision. Thank
you so much!!
--
~*~*~*~
Karen
~*~Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results. - Albert Einstein~*~
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>Ren, I want to say thank you for saying this. I know it's not directed at
>
> Just remember, the universe is helping you weed through the unecessary
> people so you can get to some really deep, beautiful and rich
> relationships that will last a lifetime.:)
me, but the Universe sent it to me this morning. You see, I've been having
trouble with my in-laws for years and this recent decision to unschool
(about a year ago) really put a huge kink in the relationships. Last night
I decided that i just can't be around them anymore and told my dh. He
totally understands. The last time I tried to talk to my sil about
homeschooling (2 weeks ago), she told me I was psycho. In front of my kids
to boot! Stormed out of my house, telling me to have a shitty life, cuz
that's what I am giving my kids.
Today is my nephew's birthday party and I just don't have the strength to
deal with them anymore. I realized that just because I'm married to John,
doesn't mean I have to like his family or be around them. I feel so free
with this decision. Ren, your quote just confirmed this decision. Thank
you so much!!
--
~*~*~*~
Karen
~*~Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results. - Albert Einstein~*~
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Deb Lewis
***she just got up and grabbed him and ran off.***
The bad news is there'll be more of that. The good news is in time it
won't bother you.
I have a couple of thoughts. Maybe she left for reasons other than your
conversation and because *you* feel a little weird about unschooling you
attributed it to that? No?
Maybe she's come across others who've called themselves "unschoolers" who
were the "My child needed to hit your child and I'm here to facilitate
his needs" kind of dork-os. They're out there. If that was the case
she was acting in the best interest of her kid and you can't blame her
for that.
You might run into her again and you might just ask. Especially if your
kids liked each other. If she's someone you can live happily without
than I want to remind you it honestly doesn't matter that much, even
though it feels icky.
Even if you weren't unschooling there'd be some mom somewhere who'd think
you were kooky, there just always is. If you're vegetarian, if you're
atheist, if you're wiccan, if you're not christian, if you ARE christian,
if you buy organic, if you belly dance, if you do cartwheels with your
kid... There will always be someone wants to rain on your parade but the
happier you are with yourself the less their personal hang-ups and
prejudices will affect you.
I'm sorry you experienced that. It's stinks when people smear you with
poo. I remember the day a very cute and nice little kid at the park
told Dylan he was going to hell. But on the up side, (for us, not for
that poor kid) the kid did not stay cute and nice and Dylan, so far, is
not in hell and has no scheduled departure date. <g>
Deb Lewis
The bad news is there'll be more of that. The good news is in time it
won't bother you.
I have a couple of thoughts. Maybe she left for reasons other than your
conversation and because *you* feel a little weird about unschooling you
attributed it to that? No?
Maybe she's come across others who've called themselves "unschoolers" who
were the "My child needed to hit your child and I'm here to facilitate
his needs" kind of dork-os. They're out there. If that was the case
she was acting in the best interest of her kid and you can't blame her
for that.
You might run into her again and you might just ask. Especially if your
kids liked each other. If she's someone you can live happily without
than I want to remind you it honestly doesn't matter that much, even
though it feels icky.
Even if you weren't unschooling there'd be some mom somewhere who'd think
you were kooky, there just always is. If you're vegetarian, if you're
atheist, if you're wiccan, if you're not christian, if you ARE christian,
if you buy organic, if you belly dance, if you do cartwheels with your
kid... There will always be someone wants to rain on your parade but the
happier you are with yourself the less their personal hang-ups and
prejudices will affect you.
I'm sorry you experienced that. It's stinks when people smear you with
poo. I remember the day a very cute and nice little kid at the park
told Dylan he was going to hell. But on the up side, (for us, not for
that poor kid) the kid did not stay cute and nice and Dylan, so far, is
not in hell and has no scheduled departure date. <g>
Deb Lewis
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I mean, at 2.5, whether they go to preschool or not, what does she
think that age is supposed to do/learn/etc.? Her behavior strikes
me as just bizarre! Not to mention small minded and hearted --
disrupting positive play for what?
Linda
>sometimes. Today
> I never realized how lonely it can be to be an unschooler
> for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen ofcrazy town"
> when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we whereunschooling.
> Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park andshe just got
> up and grabbed him and ran off.You sure she wasn't looking in a mirror when she made that comment?
I mean, at 2.5, whether they go to preschool or not, what does she
think that age is supposed to do/learn/etc.? Her behavior strikes
me as just bizarre! Not to mention small minded and hearted --
disrupting positive play for what?
Linda
Lesa McMahon-Lowe
jeez, how rude. I guess this is why I keep the word unschooling to myself
most of the time. I'm so sorry, Alyssa, not everyone in the world is as cool
as us. We love you.
~*~*~
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From: SquishyMommy1@...
Date: 05/19/06 21:21:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Upset need some support
I never realized how lonely it can be to be an unschooler sometimes. Today
for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of crazy
town"
when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling.
Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
up and grabbed him and ran off. Landen started bawling. And it just broke
my heart to hear him. I sat there and just cried and cried with my son on
my
lap.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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most of the time. I'm so sorry, Alyssa, not everyone in the world is as cool
as us. We love you.
~*~*~
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From: SquishyMommy1@...
Date: 05/19/06 21:21:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Upset need some support
I never realized how lonely it can be to be an unschooler sometimes. Today
for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of crazy
town"
when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling.
Landen was happily playing with her little boy at the park and she just got
up and grabbed him and ran off. Landen started bawling. And it just broke
my heart to hear him. I sat there and just cried and cried with my son on
my
lap.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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D Smith
First to Michelle, I love the T-shirt idea, I'm going
to have my brother make me some for my birthday. :)
Even, if all he does is put "Warning: I UNSCHOOL." is
going to be awesome.
Okay, on to support. I've had to cut off my family,
and we are still cutting off my husbands. It sucks,
you ache for their support, but what it boils down to,
what do your kids need more? I didn't want (still
refuse) to have my son around drunks. To be honest, I
thought my parents would never come around again. I
told my dad his behavior was unacceptable, and if he
was going to drink, not to do it anywhere near us. He
hasn't, I think because for a year and a half, I
refused contact. And when we did reconnect, I had
'rules'. Their term not mine.
I hope things get better for you.
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to have my brother make me some for my birthday. :)
Even, if all he does is put "Warning: I UNSCHOOL." is
going to be awesome.
Okay, on to support. I've had to cut off my family,
and we are still cutting off my husbands. It sucks,
you ache for their support, but what it boils down to,
what do your kids need more? I didn't want (still
refuse) to have my son around drunks. To be honest, I
thought my parents would never come around again. I
told my dad his behavior was unacceptable, and if he
was going to drink, not to do it anywhere near us. He
hasn't, I think because for a year and a half, I
refused contact. And when we did reconnect, I had
'rules'. Their term not mine.
I hope things get better for you.
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On 5/20/06, D Smith <sandshuse@...> wrote:
they are not honoring what you are doing in your life then they are not
supportive. If you are the brunt of family jokes, ridiculed and constantly
questioned then you do not have support. Despite the fact that my children
did eventually wean, sleep in their own beds (at their request), haven't had
any major illnesses, and a plethora of other things that my family was sure
would happen because of my odd ball non-mainstreaming parenting my family
still thinks that because I don't follow the status quo that I am harming my
children. We have a mostly "created family" made up of people who honor our
family and all its eccentricities even if they don't follow those
eccentricities themselves.
--
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>We've had to do the same with many of our family members. MNSHO is that if
>
> Okay, on to support. I've had to cut off my family,
> and we are still cutting off my husbands. It sucks,
> you ache for their support, but what it boils down to,
> what do your kids need more?
they are not honoring what you are doing in your life then they are not
supportive. If you are the brunt of family jokes, ridiculed and constantly
questioned then you do not have support. Despite the fact that my children
did eventually wean, sleep in their own beds (at their request), haven't had
any major illnesses, and a plethora of other things that my family was sure
would happen because of my odd ball non-mainstreaming parenting my family
still thinks that because I don't follow the status quo that I am harming my
children. We have a mostly "created family" made up of people who honor our
family and all its eccentricities even if they don't follow those
eccentricities themselves.
--
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Ren Allen
" But on the up side, (for us, not for
that poor kid) the kid did not stay cute and nice and Dylan, so far, is
not in hell and has no scheduled departure date. <g>"
Geez I'm glad you're back Deb!! I need some laughs right now...thanks.:)
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
that poor kid) the kid did not stay cute and nice and Dylan, so far, is
not in hell and has no scheduled departure date. <g>"
Geez I'm glad you're back Deb!! I need some laughs right now...thanks.:)
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
Ren Allen
"Stormed out of my house, telling me to have a shitty life, cuz
that's what I am giving my kids."
Ah, sounds like a HUGE battle I had with my sil over the fact that I
dared to HUG my child when she was having a melt-down, rather than
smack her. :)
I'm glad I piss those kind of people off. I sure wouldn't want to hang
out with them....
I just feel bad for the burden of pain a person must be carrying, to
think that a small child would be better off getting spanked than hugged.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
that's what I am giving my kids."
Ah, sounds like a HUGE battle I had with my sil over the fact that I
dared to HUG my child when she was having a melt-down, rather than
smack her. :)
I'm glad I piss those kind of people off. I sure wouldn't want to hang
out with them....
I just feel bad for the burden of pain a person must be carrying, to
think that a small child would be better off getting spanked than hugged.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
[email protected]
>>Today for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen ofcrazy town"
when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling. <
<
***First off, I'm SO sorry you had to run into such an ass. I personally
don't believe in coincidences, sounds like SHE needed YOU and YOUR SON in her
life. Too bad she wasn't open enough (*yet*, I hope) to recognize that.
And second, I'm really sorry that you both got your feelings hurt, neither
one of you deserved that. But "queen of crazy town"???!!! LOL! I once had a Mom
and her dd tell me and my oldest that we were just "TOO WEIRD!" b/c of our
unschooling. I said "Thanks, I take that as a compliment, *wierd* is good." <g>
Crazy can be too. <g> For some, anything out of the norm is too much for
them......<sigh>....how limited.
Who cares what ONE mom thinks?
You are not alone,
~Nancy
(I've always loved Eleanor's quote too Joanne)
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freepsgal
Oh Alyssa, there was something more to that exchange that you
weren't being let in on. Your child is 2! Anyone who thinks a 2
yr. old should be in school shouldn't be labeling other people as
crazy!
FWIW, I don't use the term unschooling too much. We just say we
homeschool. I haven't had anyone ask me about curriculum since we
stopped using it but if they ask me, I'll just say that we're
eclectic and use a little of this and a little of that according to
the children's interests, which is true. With a child as young as
yours, I'd be extremely confident in saying that we still have a ton
of time before worrying about formal structure and we just live and
learn by playing together every day. If the person wants to think
you crazy and not associate with you, then pretty likely that person
has nothing to offer you in friendship. Or perhaps she's had people
talking to her about unschooling and it just scares the pants off
her so her coping mechanism is to run away. Either way, there's no
reason for you to feel personally upset. Just shake your head and
move on.
I've made few lasting friendships within a homeschooling circle.
I've found that it's easier for people to 'hang' together when they
share a common interest, and the majority of people I've met don't
care that we share homeschooling. They want to know you use the
same materials. At some functions, I've had women walk up to me,
introduce themselves and immediately ask me what curriculum I'm
using. When I don't give them the answer they want, they politely
excuse themselves and don't come back to me. I have since had
the .... um... pleasure? of sitting with homeschoolers who share a
common homeschooling curriculum. They discuss curriculum the entire
time every single time they get together. If they aren't discussing
the actual curriculum, they're discussing how to discipline their
children to make them more obedient in doing their schoolwork.
Now, to be honest, I've been one of those moms who sit around
discussing curriculum all the time. And now that I'm no longer
enamored of the stupid materials, I'm less tolerant of being in a
group that discusses those things. If you haven't yet tried, you
may want to look for general homeschooling groups in your area. You
might have more luck since people in a general group will use so
many different materials. Also, if I need to, I will tell people
I'm using Sonlight, which is a literature based program. It's not a
lie, but I don't into details that we don't use the program as
designed. It really boils down to a super great list of books and
as we love reading together, we get many great suggestions from the
catalog.
Hope you feel better soon.
Beth M.
weren't being let in on. Your child is 2! Anyone who thinks a 2
yr. old should be in school shouldn't be labeling other people as
crazy!
FWIW, I don't use the term unschooling too much. We just say we
homeschool. I haven't had anyone ask me about curriculum since we
stopped using it but if they ask me, I'll just say that we're
eclectic and use a little of this and a little of that according to
the children's interests, which is true. With a child as young as
yours, I'd be extremely confident in saying that we still have a ton
of time before worrying about formal structure and we just live and
learn by playing together every day. If the person wants to think
you crazy and not associate with you, then pretty likely that person
has nothing to offer you in friendship. Or perhaps she's had people
talking to her about unschooling and it just scares the pants off
her so her coping mechanism is to run away. Either way, there's no
reason for you to feel personally upset. Just shake your head and
move on.
I've made few lasting friendships within a homeschooling circle.
I've found that it's easier for people to 'hang' together when they
share a common interest, and the majority of people I've met don't
care that we share homeschooling. They want to know you use the
same materials. At some functions, I've had women walk up to me,
introduce themselves and immediately ask me what curriculum I'm
using. When I don't give them the answer they want, they politely
excuse themselves and don't come back to me. I have since had
the .... um... pleasure? of sitting with homeschoolers who share a
common homeschooling curriculum. They discuss curriculum the entire
time every single time they get together. If they aren't discussing
the actual curriculum, they're discussing how to discipline their
children to make them more obedient in doing their schoolwork.
Now, to be honest, I've been one of those moms who sit around
discussing curriculum all the time. And now that I'm no longer
enamored of the stupid materials, I'm less tolerant of being in a
group that discusses those things. If you haven't yet tried, you
may want to look for general homeschooling groups in your area. You
might have more luck since people in a general group will use so
many different materials. Also, if I need to, I will tell people
I'm using Sonlight, which is a literature based program. It's not a
lie, but I don't into details that we don't use the program as
designed. It really boils down to a super great list of books and
as we love reading together, we get many great suggestions from the
catalog.
Hope you feel better soon.
Beth M.
Ren Allen
" "Thanks, I take that as a compliment, *wierd* is good." <g>
Crazy can be too. "
YEP!! Around here, "normal" is a diss.:)
Ren, off to hunt ghosts in Blountville tonight
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Crazy can be too. "
YEP!! Around here, "normal" is a diss.:)
Ren, off to hunt ghosts in Blountville tonight
learninginfreedom.com
Amy Bowers
I just saw this post and wanted to ask if I can make a tshirt saying
that I am the queen of crazy town! I love that!
Amy
that I am the queen of crazy town! I love that!
Amy
On 5/20/06, barndogzzz@... <barndogzzz@...> wrote:
> >>Today for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of
> crazy town"
> when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where unschooling. <
> <
>
> ***First off, I'm SO sorry you had to run into such an ass. I personally
> don't believe in coincidences, sounds like SHE needed YOU and YOUR SON in her
> life. Too bad she wasn't open enough (*yet*, I hope) to recognize that.
>
> And second, I'm really sorry that you both got your feelings hurt, neither
> one of you deserved that. But "queen of crazy town"???!!! LOL! I once had a Mom
> and her dd tell me and my oldest that we were just "TOO WEIRD!" b/c of our
> unschooling. I said "Thanks, I take that as a compliment, *wierd* is good." <g>
> Crazy can be too. <g> For some, anything out of the norm is too much for
> them......<sigh>....how limited.
>
> Who cares what ONE mom thinks?
>
> You are not alone,
> ~Nancy
> (I've always loved Eleanor's quote too Joanne)
>
>
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>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Lesa McMahon-Lowe
hey, if you do that at one of the t-shirt sites... I'll buy one! if I'm
going to be shunned by mainstream homeschoolers then I'm going to do it with
style!!!!
**sorry, I'm so pissed right now! read my VENT post for the explanation**
~*~*~
Lesa
LIFE Academy
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-------Original Message-------
From: Amy Bowers
Date: 05/20/06 17:15:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Upset need some support
I just saw this post and wanted to ask if I can make a tshirt saying
that I am the queen of crazy town! I love that!
Amy
going to be shunned by mainstream homeschoolers then I'm going to do it with
style!!!!
**sorry, I'm so pissed right now! read my VENT post for the explanation**
~*~*~
Lesa
LIFE Academy
http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
http://qtpiecraftsandthings.etsy.com
-------Original Message-------
From: Amy Bowers
Date: 05/20/06 17:15:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Upset need some support
I just saw this post and wanted to ask if I can make a tshirt saying
that I am the queen of crazy town! I love that!
Amy
On 5/20/06, barndogzzz@... <barndogzzz@...> wrote:
> >>Today for the first time i had a mother tell me that i am the "queen of
> crazy town"
> when she asked me about preschool and i told her that we where
unschooling. <
> <
>
> ***First off, I'm SO sorry you had to run into such an ass. I personally
> don't believe in coincidences, sounds like SHE needed YOU and YOUR SON in
her
> life. Too bad she wasn't open enough (*yet*, I hope) to recognize that.
>
> And second, I'm really sorry that you both got your feelings hurt, neither
> one of you deserved that. But "queen of crazy town"???!!! LOL! I once had
a Mom
> and her dd tell me and my oldest that we were just "TOO WEIRD!" b/c of our
> unschooling. I said "Thanks, I take that as a compliment, *wierd* is good.
<g>
> Crazy can be too. <g> For some, anything out of the norm is too much for
> them......<sigh>....how limited.
>
> Who cares what ONE mom thinks?
>
> You are not alone,
> ~Nancy
> (I've always loved Eleanor's quote too Joanne)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Try very very VERY hard not to let ignorant fools upset you so much that you
cry, especially while your son is with you. Should such a thing happen again
(But it probably won't!) give him a hug and reassure him that he didn't do
anything wrong, you didn't do anything wrong, sometimes people just do things we
can't understand.
By the time I was 6 1/2 months pregnant with my twins, it was common for
people I met to comment "Any day now, hmmm?" I'd either make a noncommital noise
if I wasn't in the mood for a discussion of twins, or else I'd say something
like "no, not for another 2 months or so. Twins!"
Once in a bookstore a young woman with a very small boy reacted to my
"twins!" answer truly bizzarely - she grabbed her son's hand and dragged him away,
walking backward keeping an eye on me the whole time muttering "oh no, not for
us. no twins. no no no."
It wasn't about me, it was about her.
It wasn't about you, it was about her.
Besides, it's good to be queen. :)
Deborah in IL
cry, especially while your son is with you. Should such a thing happen again
(But it probably won't!) give him a hug and reassure him that he didn't do
anything wrong, you didn't do anything wrong, sometimes people just do things we
can't understand.
By the time I was 6 1/2 months pregnant with my twins, it was common for
people I met to comment "Any day now, hmmm?" I'd either make a noncommital noise
if I wasn't in the mood for a discussion of twins, or else I'd say something
like "no, not for another 2 months or so. Twins!"
Once in a bookstore a young woman with a very small boy reacted to my
"twins!" answer truly bizzarely - she grabbed her son's hand and dragged him away,
walking backward keeping an eye on me the whole time muttering "oh no, not for
us. no twins. no no no."
It wasn't about me, it was about her.
It wasn't about you, it was about her.
Besides, it's good to be queen. :)
Deborah in IL
Maisha Khalfani
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To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Upset need some support
In a message dated 5/19/2006 10:10:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
starsuncloud@...<mailto:starsuncloud@...> writes:
Just remember, the universe is helping you weed through the unecessary
people so you can get to some really deep, beautiful and rich
relationships that will last a lifetime.:)
The conference is a great place to meet with like minded
folks......it's SO worth going into debt over.
Thanks Ren LOL i'll remember that when we are living in a cardboard box. HA
HA. BTW who am i sending this tape to? LMAO
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(7 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
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From: Maisha Khalfani <earthspirit393@...>
..and I really wanted to go to the conference too! Alas...we have
to pay rent.
Otherwise we WILL be in a cardboard box! LOL I look forward to buying
the
tapes of the funshops.
-=-==-
No tapes of funshops (what a nightmare *that* could be! <bwg>). We're
working on taping the main presentations now.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org
School's goal is to prepare them to be anything they want. But the
process is so dullifying and kids haven't explored the possibilities
of what they could be that many set their sites as low as possible.
They go to college to get a job to buy stuff. ~Joyce Fetteroll
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From: Maisha Khalfani <earthspirit393@...>
..and I really wanted to go to the conference too! Alas...we have
to pay rent.
Otherwise we WILL be in a cardboard box! LOL I look forward to buying
the
tapes of the funshops.
-=-==-
No tapes of funshops (what a nightmare *that* could be! <bwg>). We're
working on taping the main presentations now.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org
School's goal is to prepare them to be anything they want. But the
process is so dullifying and kids haven't explored the possibilities
of what they could be that many set their sites as low as possible.
They go to college to get a job to buy stuff. ~Joyce Fetteroll
________________________________________________________________________
Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email
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