Moving and homeschooling laws (was State differences)
Malinda Mills
On a related note....has anyone here ever moved to or from a state because of the homeschooling laws? If you have been faced with a move (job relocation, etc), how much influence do the homeschooling laws have on your decision?
Malinda
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Malinda
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Pampered Chef Michelle
On 5/8/06, Malinda Mills <saprswife@...> wrote:
for Florida. I knew that Florida had evaluations, but didn't know at the
time that they also had a cover school option. Had I known that I probably
would have not put them in public school that year. Fortunately I found out
by the time Emily dropped out of school mid-year. We have talked of moving
to Texas where another facility that the company my co-parent is employed at
owns, but there are other issues keeping us from moving to Texas. Also, we
have considered moving back to Oregon and are aware that the Oregon
homeschooling laws are more strict, but wondering if we could just stay
under the radar if we moved. We have also discussed moving back to
Alabama. Right now we are waiting to see how the governor's race turns out
before we move back. I refuse to live in a state where Roy Moore is
governor! I know we almost moved to Illinois about 8 years ago and were
looking into their homeschool laws as well. Isn't it odd what an
influencing factor it is?
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>When I moved to Florida 3 years ago (or maybe it has been 4?) I left Alabama
> On a related note....has anyone here ever moved to or from a state because
> of the homeschooling laws? If you have been faced with a move (job
> relocation, etc), how much influence do the homeschooling laws have on your
> decision?
for Florida. I knew that Florida had evaluations, but didn't know at the
time that they also had a cover school option. Had I known that I probably
would have not put them in public school that year. Fortunately I found out
by the time Emily dropped out of school mid-year. We have talked of moving
to Texas where another facility that the company my co-parent is employed at
owns, but there are other issues keeping us from moving to Texas. Also, we
have considered moving back to Oregon and are aware that the Oregon
homeschooling laws are more strict, but wondering if we could just stay
under the radar if we moved. We have also discussed moving back to
Alabama. Right now we are waiting to see how the governor's race turns out
before we move back. I refuse to live in a state where Roy Moore is
governor! I know we almost moved to Illinois about 8 years ago and were
looking into their homeschool laws as well. Isn't it odd what an
influencing factor it is?
--
Michelle
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Malinda Mills
Michelle wrote:
<<Isn't it odd what an
influencing factor it is?>>
It's crazy, isn't it? If Tristan were in PS, schools really wouldn't play a factor in our decision as to which state we moved to. When it's up to DH and I to provide his "education" and prove it to the state, however? Well, that's another matter!
We'll most likely be moving in the next two years or so. We have been wanting to move back to WA and have been planning on it since we left in 2001, BUT I've just glanced at their homeschooling laws. After being in Alaska where homeschooling laws are so very lax (basically nonexistent!), the WA laws make me break out into a cold sweat. LOL
Malinda
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<<Isn't it odd what an
influencing factor it is?>>
It's crazy, isn't it? If Tristan were in PS, schools really wouldn't play a factor in our decision as to which state we moved to. When it's up to DH and I to provide his "education" and prove it to the state, however? Well, that's another matter!
We'll most likely be moving in the next two years or so. We have been wanting to move back to WA and have been planning on it since we left in 2001, BUT I've just glanced at their homeschooling laws. After being in Alaska where homeschooling laws are so very lax (basically nonexistent!), the WA laws make me break out into a cold sweat. LOL
Malinda
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Pamela Sorooshian
On May 8, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Malinda Mills wrote:
homeschooling law in the country, for sure:
*******
Option 1. Alaska Stat. � 14.30.010(b)(12). If �the child is being
educated in the child�s home by a parent
or legal guardian,� the child is exempt from compulsory attendance.
Under this option, there are no
requirements to notify, seek approval, test, file forms, or have any
teacher qualifications. The burden is
on the state to prove that parents are not teaching their children.
*******
-pam
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> After being in Alaska where homeschooling laws are so very laxActually - the law exists and is very very clear. The best
> (basically nonexistent!),
homeschooling law in the country, for sure:
*******
Option 1. Alaska Stat. � 14.30.010(b)(12). If �the child is being
educated in the child�s home by a parent
or legal guardian,� the child is exempt from compulsory attendance.
Under this option, there are no
requirements to notify, seek approval, test, file forms, or have any
teacher qualifications. The burden is
on the state to prove that parents are not teaching their children.
*******
-pam
Unschooling shirts, cups, bumper stickers, bags...
Live Love Learn
UNSCHOOL!
<http://www.cafepress.com/livelovelearn>
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Malinda Mills
Pam, you're right. :o) I actually have this printed and in a binder in case anyone wishes to challenge me (I had a scare tactic letter sent to me by Tristan's school after I pulled him out and had visions of CPS or a truancy officer coming to my door).
My wording of "basically nonexistent" was poorly used. I meant it in a way meaning that we have no hard and fast "rules" to follow -- no notification, testing, evaluations, or even attendance. I do know a number of folks who get money from the state every year, but they do have more stringent guidelines that must be followed.
Malinda
My wording of "basically nonexistent" was poorly used. I meant it in a way meaning that we have no hard and fast "rules" to follow -- no notification, testing, evaluations, or even attendance. I do know a number of folks who get money from the state every year, but they do have more stringent guidelines that must be followed.
Malinda
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Sorooshian
On May 8, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Malinda Mills wrote:
Actually - the law exists and is very very clear. The best
homeschooling law in the country, for sure:
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trektheory
--- In [email protected], "Malinda Mills"
<saprswife@...> wrote:
move (job relocation, etc), how much influence do the homeschooling
laws have on your decision?
of unemployment, and ANYWHERE where we had an income beat FL without
one. But, when we were in the searching phase, I admit that,
although there would have been a lot of pluses to Albany, NY had he
gotten a job there (he was a former state employee, so was trying to
get back in) -- a good solid base of friends, knowledge of the area,
etc., I was terrified at the prospect of homeschooling there. Not
just because of the regs, but also because I had a feeling that
there would have been far fewer older homeschooling kids, and my son
is now 14. (We only moved a year ago. And 6 months ago....)
So, although the home-ed laws would have influenced my feelings
about the move, it wouldn't have changed my mind. However, all
other things being equal, I would have probably considered that.
Linda
<saprswife@...> wrote:
>because of the homeschooling laws? If you have been faced with a
> On a related note....has anyone here ever moved to or from a state
move (job relocation, etc), how much influence do the homeschooling
laws have on your decision?
>To be honest, when we were faced with a move, it was after 3 years
> Malinda
> http://nomadicdreamers.blogspot.com/
of unemployment, and ANYWHERE where we had an income beat FL without
one. But, when we were in the searching phase, I admit that,
although there would have been a lot of pluses to Albany, NY had he
gotten a job there (he was a former state employee, so was trying to
get back in) -- a good solid base of friends, knowledge of the area,
etc., I was terrified at the prospect of homeschooling there. Not
just because of the regs, but also because I had a feeling that
there would have been far fewer older homeschooling kids, and my son
is now 14. (We only moved a year ago. And 6 months ago....)
So, although the home-ed laws would have influenced my feelings
about the move, it wouldn't have changed my mind. However, all
other things being equal, I would have probably considered that.
Linda
Deb
--- In [email protected], Pamela Sorooshian
<pamsoroosh@...> wrote:
or 'being educated at home' or 'homeschooling' or any form thereof
doesn't even exist in statute. From the get-go (ca 1650), "A parent
shall educate, or cause to be educated, their minor child..." (CT
Gen Statute 10-184)[note the clause there was a later addition to
the 1650 version of the statute] It does say what they are to be
educated in (reading, arithmetic, and such) but there is no
distinction as to HOW a parent may see to this responsibility nor is
there any 'proving' required of the parent. As with Alaska, the
state needs some evidence of neglect. However, I will note that
there are some superintendents who (with the complicity of the state
Dept of Ed) try to add requirements when parents withdraw their kids
from school. Kids who were never enrolled (either because they moved
in from another state or because they have been home educated from
the start) rarely have any issues with the state or the school
system.
--Deb
<pamsoroosh@...> wrote:
>"non-existent" might be a better term for CT where 'home education'
>
> On May 8, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Malinda Mills wrote:
>
> > After being in Alaska where homeschooling laws are so very lax
> > (basically nonexistent!),
>
> Actually - the law exists and is very very clear. The best
> homeschooling law in the country, for sure:
>
> *******
> Option 1. Alaska Stat. § 14.30.010(b)(12). If "the child is being
> educated in the child's home by a parent
> or legal guardian," the child is exempt from compulsory
>attendance.
> Under this option, there are no
> requirements to notify, seek approval, test, file forms, or have
>any
> teacher qualifications. The burden is
> on the state to prove that parents are not teaching their children.
> *******
or 'being educated at home' or 'homeschooling' or any form thereof
doesn't even exist in statute. From the get-go (ca 1650), "A parent
shall educate, or cause to be educated, their minor child..." (CT
Gen Statute 10-184)[note the clause there was a later addition to
the 1650 version of the statute] It does say what they are to be
educated in (reading, arithmetic, and such) but there is no
distinction as to HOW a parent may see to this responsibility nor is
there any 'proving' required of the parent. As with Alaska, the
state needs some evidence of neglect. However, I will note that
there are some superintendents who (with the complicity of the state
Dept of Ed) try to add requirements when parents withdraw their kids
from school. Kids who were never enrolled (either because they moved
in from another state or because they have been home educated from
the start) rarely have any issues with the state or the school
system.
--Deb
Pampered Chef Michelle
On 5/9/06, Deb <soggyboysmom@...> wrote:
children will be educated at public school, a private school, tutored at
home by a professional tutor or a parent who is a certified educator or
enrolled in a private church school. If you choose the tutor or certified
educator route you have to follow state guidelines, curriculum
recommendations (which why they call the "recommendations" is beyond me
since they require them), and have to test on schedule with the rest of the
school system. Enrolling in a church school is the only other way to
homeschool. There is no direct provision for homeschooling.
--
Michelle
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>Actually, Alabama has no homeschool provision. The law actually states that
> .
> > *******
> "non-existent" might be a better term for CT where 'home education'
> or 'being educated at home' or 'homeschooling' or any form thereof
> doesn't even exist in statute. From the get-go (ca 1650), "A parent
> shall educate, or cause to be educated, their minor child..."
children will be educated at public school, a private school, tutored at
home by a professional tutor or a parent who is a certified educator or
enrolled in a private church school. If you choose the tutor or certified
educator route you have to follow state guidelines, curriculum
recommendations (which why they call the "recommendations" is beyond me
since they require them), and have to test on schedule with the rest of the
school system. Enrolling in a church school is the only other way to
homeschool. There is no direct provision for homeschooling.
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
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Deb
--- In [email protected], "Pampered Chef Michelle"
<pamperedmichelle@...> wrote:
school, or have them taught by someone officially approved by the
school system (tutor or certified educator parent). That's probably
about as opposite as it gets from CT where rather than requiring
enrollment, it simply doesn't mention HOW education is to happen at
all. Parents can put together whatever sort of plan they choose
using whatever resources they want in whatever order makes sense for
them. Some do public school straight through, some private school,
some homeschool from the start, some have one kid here and one
there, some homeschool then the kids take comm college classes, some
homeschool with lots of outside co-ops and tutors (piano, writing,
whatever), some are in and out of public and private schools and
homeschooling (a friend of ours had her 4 in public school the
homeschooled for a couple years then they went to a small private
school for high school; another family we know has one kid in public
school and the others at home right now - all subject to change).
--Deb
<pamperedmichelle@...> wrote:
>So, by law, you can enroll your kids in school, school, school or
>
> Actually, Alabama has no homeschool provision. The law actually
>states that
> children will be educated at public school, a private school,
>tutored at
> home by a professional tutor or a parent who is a certified
>educator or
> enrolled in a private church school. If you choose the tutor or
>certified
> educator route you have to follow state guidelines, curriculum
> recommendations (which why they call the "recommendations" is
>beyond me
> since they require them), and have to test on schedule with the
>rest of the
> school system. Enrolling in a church school is the only other way
>to
> homeschool. There is no direct provision for homeschooling.
school, or have them taught by someone officially approved by the
school system (tutor or certified educator parent). That's probably
about as opposite as it gets from CT where rather than requiring
enrollment, it simply doesn't mention HOW education is to happen at
all. Parents can put together whatever sort of plan they choose
using whatever resources they want in whatever order makes sense for
them. Some do public school straight through, some private school,
some homeschool from the start, some have one kid here and one
there, some homeschool then the kids take comm college classes, some
homeschool with lots of outside co-ops and tutors (piano, writing,
whatever), some are in and out of public and private schools and
homeschooling (a friend of ours had her 4 in public school the
homeschooled for a couple years then they went to a small private
school for high school; another family we know has one kid in public
school and the others at home right now - all subject to change).
--Deb