same sex sharing a room....
Ren Allen
...which should actually read "opposite sex sharing a room" shouldn't it?
"Okay, I'm sorry but I've done a crapload of searches this morning
his/her weight around and the person being victimized didn't bother to
check the laws and stand up for themselves.
You just say "social services" and everyone gets all fearful, as
though they don't have rights. I'm glad you researched this Sandy. I'd
be interested to hear if anyone else finds out more.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
"Okay, I'm sorry but I've done a crapload of searches this morning
> (including those concerning states below) and could find not oneIt's probably one of those things where some jerk decided to throw
> single law that outlaws opposite sex siblings sharing a room. "
his/her weight around and the person being victimized didn't bother to
check the laws and stand up for themselves.
You just say "social services" and everyone gets all fearful, as
though they don't have rights. I'm glad you researched this Sandy. I'd
be interested to hear if anyone else finds out more.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
aplan4life
It just "smacked" too much of bullying by the state much in the same
way they do to homeschoolers, if we are not truly informed, we are at
their mercy....same in this whole opposite sex sibling sharing a
bedroom issue. Pisses me off, I'm sorry but it does. No way would I
allow some self-righteous state official to tell me that my children
sharing a room is wrong no more than I'd let some religious zealot,
convince me that it is evil or sinful.
~Sandy
--- In [email protected], "Ren Allen"
<starsuncloud@...> wrote:
way they do to homeschoolers, if we are not truly informed, we are at
their mercy....same in this whole opposite sex sibling sharing a
bedroom issue. Pisses me off, I'm sorry but it does. No way would I
allow some self-righteous state official to tell me that my children
sharing a room is wrong no more than I'd let some religious zealot,
convince me that it is evil or sinful.
~Sandy
--- In [email protected], "Ren Allen"
<starsuncloud@...> wrote:
>shouldn't it?
> ...which should actually read "opposite sex sharing a room"
>
> "Okay, I'm sorry but I've done a crapload of searches this morning
> > (including those concerning states below) and could find not one
> > single law that outlaws opposite sex siblings sharing a room. "
>
> It's probably one of those things where some jerk decided to throw
> his/her weight around and the person being victimized didn't bother to
> check the laws and stand up for themselves.
>
> You just say "social services" and everyone gets all fearful, as
> though they don't have rights. I'm glad you researched this Sandy. I'd
> be interested to hear if anyone else finds out more.
>
> Ren
> learninginfreedom.com
>
Ellen Christian
I called our state social services office to check (Vermont). The man I spoke to said that it wasn't a "law" however the department would not recommend it and would certainly see it in a negative light if they were called in to investigate the family for some reason.
So while it may not be a "law" that doesn't mean that it can't be held against you for whatever reason by whoever. At least that is what I was told.
aplan4life <aplan4life@...> wrote:
It just "smacked" too much of bullying by the state much in the same
way they do to homeschoolers,
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So while it may not be a "law" that doesn't mean that it can't be held against you for whatever reason by whoever. At least that is what I was told.
aplan4life <aplan4life@...> wrote:
It just "smacked" too much of bullying by the state much in the same
way they do to homeschoolers,
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On 4/14/06, Ellen Christian <scentednights2002@...> wrote:
discriminated against because of this "guideline" probably won't have the
money to fight it so it just continues to get used. So many people in this
world (praticularly this country) believe that if two people of the opposite
gender are alone in a room together that there must be something sexual
going on.
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>And since it isn't a law it shouldn't be enforceable. Unfortunately anyone
> I called our state social services office to check (Vermont). The man I
> spoke to said that it wasn't a "law" however the department would not
> recommend it and would certainly see it in a negative light if they were
> called in to investigate the family for some reason.
>
> So while it may not be a "law" that doesn't mean that it can't be held
> against you for whatever reason by whoever. At least that is what I was
> told.
discriminated against because of this "guideline" probably won't have the
money to fight it so it just continues to get used. So many people in this
world (praticularly this country) believe that if two people of the opposite
gender are alone in a room together that there must be something sexual
going on.
--
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In a message dated 4/14/2006 8:25:26 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
aplan4life@... writes:
if we are not truly informed
Where do we go to get informed? I've wanted to look up laws on stuff like
that and can't find the answers I'm looking for. I am the world's worst at
looking up stuff online!
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aplan4life@... writes:
if we are not truly informed
Where do we go to get informed? I've wanted to look up laws on stuff like
that and can't find the answers I'm looking for. I am the world's worst at
looking up stuff online!
Mandy
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aplan4life
I'd say perhaps the law section of the library. If it isn't a law,
then it isn't a law. Sadly, there really ARE stupid laws left on the
books, including laws against oral sex with your spouse...I think it
needs to be axed but I can see how it got there, religious right of
those days. However, the opposite sibling bedroom issue? That
doesn't make sense even religiously because too many people cannot
afford other rooms or a big home.
then it isn't a law. Sadly, there really ARE stupid laws left on the
books, including laws against oral sex with your spouse...I think it
needs to be axed but I can see how it got there, religious right of
those days. However, the opposite sibling bedroom issue? That
doesn't make sense even religiously because too many people cannot
afford other rooms or a big home.
--- In [email protected], LuvnMomma24boys@... wrote:
> Where do we go to get informed? I've wanted to look up laws on
stuff like
> that and can't find the answers I'm looking for. I am the world's
worst at
> looking up stuff online!
>
> Mandy
>
> (http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
> (http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
>
>
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>
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In a message dated 4/14/2006 8:59:40 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
aplan4life@... writes:
I'd say perhaps the law section of the library. If it isn't a law,
then it isn't a law. Sadly, there really ARE stupid laws left on the
books, including laws against oral sex with your spouse...I think it
needs to be axed but I can see how it got there, religious right of
those days. However, the opposite sibling bedroom issue? That
doesn't make sense even religiously because too many people cannot
afford other rooms or a big home.
This all makes me glad that I have just boys, thank goodness this will
never be an issue for me, but there will always be other concerns
Mandy
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aplan4life@... writes:
I'd say perhaps the law section of the library. If it isn't a law,
then it isn't a law. Sadly, there really ARE stupid laws left on the
books, including laws against oral sex with your spouse...I think it
needs to be axed but I can see how it got there, religious right of
those days. However, the opposite sibling bedroom issue? That
doesn't make sense even religiously because too many people cannot
afford other rooms or a big home.
This all makes me glad that I have just boys, thank goodness this will
never be an issue for me, but there will always be other concerns
Mandy
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aplan4life
You asked if a mom and dad had a two bedroom home and two kids of
opposite sex shared a room if there was a law against it and they told
you 'no but it could be used against you?" I'm sorry Ellen, that
makes no sense, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
--- In [email protected], Ellen Christian
<scentednights2002@...> wrote:
would not recommend it and would certainly see it in a negative light
if they were called in to investigate the family for some reason.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
It most certainly does too, they cannot do that unless there is a
clear cut case of a parent with knowledge that their children are
having an incestuous relationship in which case the parent should be
persecuted too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You may want to ask several people and I'm curious as to how your
question was posed.
opposite sex shared a room if there was a law against it and they told
you 'no but it could be used against you?" I'm sorry Ellen, that
makes no sense, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
--- In [email protected], Ellen Christian
<scentednights2002@...> wrote:
>man I spoke to said that it wasn't a "law" however the department
> I called our state social services office to check (Vermont). The
would not recommend it and would certainly see it in a negative light
if they were called in to investigate the family for some reason.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
It most certainly does too, they cannot do that unless there is a
clear cut case of a parent with knowledge that their children are
having an incestuous relationship in which case the parent should be
persecuted too.
> So while it may not be a "law" that doesn't mean that it can't beheld against you for whatever reason by whoever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You may want to ask several people and I'm curious as to how your
question was posed.
>At least that is what I was told.----------------------------------------------------------------------
aplan4life
It doesn't concern me either, despite having children of the opposite
sex because I don't believe it is an issue outside of personal views
(social workers, religious folks, etc). Some jerk ever tried to
bring me to court over my kids being in the same room, I'm sure
pro-bono lawyers would be lining up over the chance to represent us. :-)
sex because I don't believe it is an issue outside of personal views
(social workers, religious folks, etc). Some jerk ever tried to
bring me to court over my kids being in the same room, I'm sure
pro-bono lawyers would be lining up over the chance to represent us. :-)
--- In [email protected], LuvnMomma24boys@... wrote:
> This all makes me glad that I have just boys, thank goodness this
will
> never be an issue for me, but there will always be other concerns
>
> Mandy
>
> (http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
> (http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
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>
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>
Ellen Christian
I told them I was calling for a friend who had two children - one boy and one girl - ages 7 & 9 and she (the friend) wanted to put them both in the same bedroom and was there any law against that. He said there was no law but the department would certainly view it negatively if they were called in to check on the family for something.
What's not to understand?
Ellen
aplan4life <aplan4life@...> wrote:
You asked if a mom and dad had a two bedroom home and two kids of
opposite sex shared a room if there was a law against it and they told
you 'no but it could be used against you?" I'm sorry Ellen, that
makes no sense, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
--- In [email protected], Ellen Christian
<scentednights2002@...> wrote:
would not recommend it and would certainly see it in a negative light
if they were called in to investigate the family for some reason.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
It most certainly does too, they cannot do that unless there is a
clear cut case of a parent with knowledge that their children are
having an incestuous relationship in which case the parent should be
persecuted too.
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You may want to ask several people and I'm curious as to how your
question was posed.
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What's not to understand?
Ellen
aplan4life <aplan4life@...> wrote:
You asked if a mom and dad had a two bedroom home and two kids of
opposite sex shared a room if there was a law against it and they told
you 'no but it could be used against you?" I'm sorry Ellen, that
makes no sense, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
--- In [email protected], Ellen Christian
<scentednights2002@...> wrote:
>man I spoke to said that it wasn't a "law" however the department
> I called our state social services office to check (Vermont). The
would not recommend it and would certainly see it in a negative light
if they were called in to investigate the family for some reason.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
It most certainly does too, they cannot do that unless there is a
clear cut case of a parent with knowledge that their children are
having an incestuous relationship in which case the parent should be
persecuted too.
> So while it may not be a "law" that doesn't mean that it can't beheld against you for whatever reason by whoever.
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You may want to ask several people and I'm curious as to how your
question was posed.
>At least that is what I was told.----------------------------------------------------------------------
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You asked if a mom and dad had a two bedroom home and two kids of
opposite sex shared a room if there was a law against it and they told
you 'no but it could be used against you?" I'm sorry Ellen, that
makes no sense, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
My house is somewhat messy right now and there are still some dead roaches lying around ....Im not doing anycleaning because Im going to bomb a second time this afternoon.
There is no law against a kid riding her bike, having bruises anywhere on her body, having a messy house, or trying to rid you house of nasty roaches .......But if DHS were to show up today and investigate me today ....the bruises and condition of my house would be used as evidence.
Same with the ooposite sex sharing a room ...........which btw is done here.
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opposite sex shared a room if there was a law against it and they told
you 'no but it could be used against you?" I'm sorry Ellen, that
makes no sense, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My 6 year old has bruises on her inner thighs because she just leared to ride her bike yesterday ( and just woke up and is heading straight back outside ) she had 2 good crashes one into a fence pole and into a large trashcan....which caused the bruises.
My house is somewhat messy right now and there are still some dead roaches lying around ....Im not doing anycleaning because Im going to bomb a second time this afternoon.
There is no law against a kid riding her bike, having bruises anywhere on her body, having a messy house, or trying to rid you house of nasty roaches .......But if DHS were to show up today and investigate me today ....the bruises and condition of my house would be used as evidence.
Same with the ooposite sex sharing a room ...........which btw is done here.
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You asked if a mom and dad had a two bedroom home and two kids of
opposite sex shared a room if there was a law against it and they told
you 'no but it could be used against you?" I'm sorry Ellen, that
makes no sense, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
My house is somewhat messy right now and there are still some dead roaches lying around ....Im not doing anycleaning because Im going to bomb a second time this afternoon.
There is no law against a kid riding her bike, having bruises anywhere on her body, having a messy house, or trying to rid you house of nasty roaches .......But if DHS were to show up today and investigate me today ....the bruises and condition of my house would be used as evidence.
Same with the ooposite sex sharing a room ...........which btw is done here.
Nicole
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opposite sex shared a room if there was a law against it and they told
you 'no but it could be used against you?" I'm sorry Ellen, that
makes no sense, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My 6 year old has bruises on her inner thighs because she just leared to ride her bike yesterday ( and just woke up and is heading straight back outside ) she had 2 good crashes one into a fence pole and into a large trashcan....which caused the bruises.
My house is somewhat messy right now and there are still some dead roaches lying around ....Im not doing anycleaning because Im going to bomb a second time this afternoon.
There is no law against a kid riding her bike, having bruises anywhere on her body, having a messy house, or trying to rid you house of nasty roaches .......But if DHS were to show up today and investigate me today ....the bruises and condition of my house would be used as evidence.
Same with the ooposite sex sharing a room ...........which btw is done here.
Nicole
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aplan4life
Hmmmm, maybe it's just one person 'saying' that an entire department
would see it negatively?
As far as, "What's not to understand?" Sorry Ellen and no offense to
you but my bullshit radar is going crazy, not you but whomever it is
that gave you that information.
~Sandy Winn
--- In [email protected], Ellen Christian
<scentednights2002@...> wrote:
both in the same bedroom and was there any law against that. He said
there was no law but the department would certainly view it negatively
if they were called in to check on the family for something.
would see it negatively?
As far as, "What's not to understand?" Sorry Ellen and no offense to
you but my bullshit radar is going crazy, not you but whomever it is
that gave you that information.
~Sandy Winn
--- In [email protected], Ellen Christian
<scentednights2002@...> wrote:
>boy and one girl - ages 7 & 9 and she (the friend) wanted to put them
> I told them I was calling for a friend who had two children - one
both in the same bedroom and was there any law against that. He said
there was no law but the department would certainly view it negatively
if they were called in to check on the family for something.
>
> What's not to understand?
>
> Ellen
Ellen Christian
No idea. The receptionist said he was the "caseworker for the area".
aplan4life <aplan4life@...> wrote: As far as, "What's not to understand?" Sorry Ellen and no offense to
you but my bullshit radar is going crazy, not you but whomever it is
that gave you that information.
~Sandy Winn
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you but my bullshit radar is going crazy, not you but whomever it is
that gave you that information.
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Well, I don't know the law, but supposedly in SC they will not rent a two
bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
And in military housing, they will not give you a two-bedroom house, even if
that is all that is available for the same reason.
I have never had occasion to test these guidelines, so I cannot verify them.
But certainly not unheard of.
Leslie in SC
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bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
And in military housing, they will not give you a two-bedroom house, even if
that is all that is available for the same reason.
I have never had occasion to test these guidelines, so I cannot verify them.
But certainly not unheard of.
Leslie in SC
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Su Penn
I think it is a good idea for parents to know a little bit about the
law themselves...especially any parents who might find themselves
faced with a Child Protective Services visit. Which is pretty much
any parent <g>. A couple of years ago, I was confronted by a police
officer who thought I was endangering Eric, then two. A social worker
from CPS followed up with a visit a week or so later (supposed to be
within 72 hours but I guess they're overworked). Her judgment was
that there was no neglect. But the delay between my confrontation
with the cop and the visit with the social worker gave me time to get
information about the laws and from other parents who'd faced this
kind of thing (I love the WWW).
I could have handled my conversation with the cop better, but by the
time the SW showed up I knew, for instance, that I was not legally
obligated to let her into my house, and that most parents who've been
through it recommend you don't let them in. Supposedly they aren't
supposed to hold normal household mess against you, but people tell
stories of seeing notes about their dirty dishes or floor that needs
sweeping in their files. So when the social worker arrived, I wrapped
Eric in a blanket, stepped out onto the porch, and closed my front
door behind me. We had our whole interview on the porch. She did ask
my why I didn't let her in; I said, "I don't like strangers in my
house." And that was that.
It may seem paranoid, but I found the website of the Just Cause Law
Collective very useful. It's aimed at people who might be approached
by police in a criminal matter, but I could have used the advice
since my first contact in this situation was with a police officer:
http://www.lawcollective.org/
I was so agitated by the cop confronting me that in the three minutes
I talked to her, I said two things that weren't true! Not meaning to
lie, just agitated. And they both came up in the interview with the
SW. It was very uncomfortable.
By not knowing ahead of time how to handle being questioned by a cop,
I did myself harm. But I won't make that mistake again, and I tend to
proselytize to other parents when I have the chance.
One thing I found out in my research is that CPS can talk to kids at
school without their parents being informed or consenting. Paranoid
again, I know, but I call that reason number 10,263 to homeschool.
Su
law themselves...especially any parents who might find themselves
faced with a Child Protective Services visit. Which is pretty much
any parent <g>. A couple of years ago, I was confronted by a police
officer who thought I was endangering Eric, then two. A social worker
from CPS followed up with a visit a week or so later (supposed to be
within 72 hours but I guess they're overworked). Her judgment was
that there was no neglect. But the delay between my confrontation
with the cop and the visit with the social worker gave me time to get
information about the laws and from other parents who'd faced this
kind of thing (I love the WWW).
I could have handled my conversation with the cop better, but by the
time the SW showed up I knew, for instance, that I was not legally
obligated to let her into my house, and that most parents who've been
through it recommend you don't let them in. Supposedly they aren't
supposed to hold normal household mess against you, but people tell
stories of seeing notes about their dirty dishes or floor that needs
sweeping in their files. So when the social worker arrived, I wrapped
Eric in a blanket, stepped out onto the porch, and closed my front
door behind me. We had our whole interview on the porch. She did ask
my why I didn't let her in; I said, "I don't like strangers in my
house." And that was that.
It may seem paranoid, but I found the website of the Just Cause Law
Collective very useful. It's aimed at people who might be approached
by police in a criminal matter, but I could have used the advice
since my first contact in this situation was with a police officer:
http://www.lawcollective.org/
I was so agitated by the cop confronting me that in the three minutes
I talked to her, I said two things that weren't true! Not meaning to
lie, just agitated. And they both came up in the interview with the
SW. It was very uncomfortable.
By not knowing ahead of time how to handle being questioned by a cop,
I did myself harm. But I won't make that mistake again, and I tend to
proselytize to other parents when I have the chance.
One thing I found out in my research is that CPS can talk to kids at
school without their parents being informed or consenting. Paranoid
again, I know, but I call that reason number 10,263 to homeschool.
Su
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In a message dated 4/14/2006 10:34:45 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
Leslie530@... writes:
Well, I don't know the law, but supposedly in SC they will not rent a two
bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
In Chicago you'll get evicted if you have a 2 bedroom apartment and you give
birth to a child of the opposite sex. It happened to a friend of mine, but
I'm not sure what the law is. That may have been the apartment complex's
policy.
Mandy
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Leslie530@... writes:
Well, I don't know the law, but supposedly in SC they will not rent a two
bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
In Chicago you'll get evicted if you have a 2 bedroom apartment and you give
birth to a child of the opposite sex. It happened to a friend of mine, but
I'm not sure what the law is. That may have been the apartment complex's
policy.
Mandy
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aplan4life
It is a good thing that you called though Ellen, at least we have
positive confirmation that it isn't breaking any laws, which coincides
with what I discovered online. Whether that guy speaks for himself or
others really is a moot point and no one should take it seriously
enough to worry about it.
--- In [email protected], Ellen Christian
<scentednights2002@...> wrote:
positive confirmation that it isn't breaking any laws, which coincides
with what I discovered online. Whether that guy speaks for himself or
others really is a moot point and no one should take it seriously
enough to worry about it.
--- In [email protected], Ellen Christian
<scentednights2002@...> wrote:
>understand?" Sorry Ellen and no offense to
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aplan4life
Wow, I was in the Navy for four years and my husband for ten and we
knew plenty of people in 2 bedroom homes with opposite sex kids.
This is urking me because this whole thing, if true, would be blatant
discrimination against families of opposite sex children which is not
nor has it ever been uncommon. I've never heard of laws that
discriminate within ones own household of blood siblings in my entire
36 years of life.
knew plenty of people in 2 bedroom homes with opposite sex kids.
This is urking me because this whole thing, if true, would be blatant
discrimination against families of opposite sex children which is not
nor has it ever been uncommon. I've never heard of laws that
discriminate within ones own household of blood siblings in my entire
36 years of life.
--- In [email protected], Leslie530@... wrote:
>
> Well, I don't know the law, but supposedly in SC they will not rent
a two
> bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
>
> And in military housing, they will not give you a two-bedroom house,
even if
> that is all that is available for the same reason.
>
> I have never had occasion to test these guidelines, so I cannot
verify them.
> But certainly not unheard of.
>
> Leslie in SC
>
>
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/14/2006 10:49:52 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
aplan4life@... writes:
This is urking me because this whole thing, if true, would be blatant
discrimination against families of opposite sex children which is not
nor has it ever been uncommon. I've never heard of laws that
discriminate within ones own household of blood siblings in my entire
36 years of life.
When you are a foster parent it is against the rules. I know that much for
a fact because of when I was a foster parent. No opposite sex sharing of the
rooms and each child has to have their own bed, dresser and 100 sq ft of
floor space and also no more than 2 kids per room. But those are only
guidelines for fostering, those aren't laws either.
Mandy
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aplan4life@... writes:
This is urking me because this whole thing, if true, would be blatant
discrimination against families of opposite sex children which is not
nor has it ever been uncommon. I've never heard of laws that
discriminate within ones own household of blood siblings in my entire
36 years of life.
When you are a foster parent it is against the rules. I know that much for
a fact because of when I was a foster parent. No opposite sex sharing of the
rooms and each child has to have their own bed, dresser and 100 sq ft of
floor space and also no more than 2 kids per room. But those are only
guidelines for fostering, those aren't laws either.
Mandy
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
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S Drag-teine
My next question would have been why?
Shannon
What's not to understand?
Ellen
Shannon
What's not to understand?
Ellen
S Drag-teine
My aunt owns properties in SC that she rents out and has a tenant that is
renting a two bedroom house to a couple with a boy and a girl and they are
sharing a room. I don't know what part you live in, is it different from
county to county?
Shannon
Well, I don't know the law, but supposedly in SC they will not rent a two
bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
And in military housing, they will not give you a two-bedroom house, even
if
that is all that is available for the same reason.
I have never had occasion to test these guidelines, so I cannot verify
them.
But certainly not unheard of.
Leslie in SC
renting a two bedroom house to a couple with a boy and a girl and they are
sharing a room. I don't know what part you live in, is it different from
county to county?
Shannon
Well, I don't know the law, but supposedly in SC they will not rent a two
bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
And in military housing, they will not give you a two-bedroom house, even
if
that is all that is available for the same reason.
I have never had occasion to test these guidelines, so I cannot verify
them.
But certainly not unheard of.
Leslie in SC
Malinda Mills
<<I knew, for instance, that I was not legally
obligated to let her into my house, and that most parents who've been
through it recommend you don't let them in. >>
THANK YOU, Su! I was wondering about this, especially when we received the letter from Tristan's school earlier this year (it stated that he must be enrolled in a state funded program...blah, blah, blah...). I got a bit paranoid and envisioned CPS knocking at my door. Before Tristan left, things were quite nasty at the school, and I wouldn't have been surprised to find out that they placed a call to CPS to tell them they were concerned about Tristan's "well-being" (they didn't, but I wouldn't put it past them).
CPS is sort of a common entity in my neighborhood, as I've seen them take the kids from two separate households since we've been here. (Thank goodness they took the kids from one house down the street....the object of a drug raid.)
Malinda
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obligated to let her into my house, and that most parents who've been
through it recommend you don't let them in. >>
THANK YOU, Su! I was wondering about this, especially when we received the letter from Tristan's school earlier this year (it stated that he must be enrolled in a state funded program...blah, blah, blah...). I got a bit paranoid and envisioned CPS knocking at my door. Before Tristan left, things were quite nasty at the school, and I wouldn't have been surprised to find out that they placed a call to CPS to tell them they were concerned about Tristan's "well-being" (they didn't, but I wouldn't put it past them).
CPS is sort of a common entity in my neighborhood, as I've seen them take the kids from two separate households since we've been here. (Thank goodness they took the kids from one house down the street....the object of a drug raid.)
Malinda
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/14/2006 4:10:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dragteine@... writes:
My aunt owns properties in SC that she rents out and has a tenant that is
renting a two bedroom house to a couple with a boy and a girl and they are
sharing a room. I don't know what part you live in, is it different from
county to county?
Shannon
**********
I really don't know. A few years ago, I was looking into renting a
two-bedroom in Columbia and was told that it was a law. I ended up not needing to
rent, so I never pursued it.
But it was the first time I had heard that it was a law.
As for the military housing, perhaps I encountered it in certain states or
bases. I remember a friend having a baby and they asked for another bedroom,
they were put on a long waiting list because they were same sex kids. I
definitely remember it being in the housing brochure in North Carolina that
families with opposite sexes would only get 3 or 4 bedrooms and same sex would
potentially get 2 bedrooms. But this particular area had very, very few 2
bedroom anyway. I just remember being glad I wasn't getting a 2 bedroom.
Leslie in SC
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dragteine@... writes:
My aunt owns properties in SC that she rents out and has a tenant that is
renting a two bedroom house to a couple with a boy and a girl and they are
sharing a room. I don't know what part you live in, is it different from
county to county?
Shannon
**********
I really don't know. A few years ago, I was looking into renting a
two-bedroom in Columbia and was told that it was a law. I ended up not needing to
rent, so I never pursued it.
But it was the first time I had heard that it was a law.
As for the military housing, perhaps I encountered it in certain states or
bases. I remember a friend having a baby and they asked for another bedroom,
they were put on a long waiting list because they were same sex kids. I
definitely remember it being in the housing brochure in North Carolina that
families with opposite sexes would only get 3 or 4 bedrooms and same sex would
potentially get 2 bedrooms. But this particular area had very, very few 2
bedroom anyway. I just remember being glad I wasn't getting a 2 bedroom.
Leslie in SC
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Kristie Cochran
As a real estate agent, these are rental issues and guidelines set forth
by the local department of housing. I believe that these only apply to
rental units, and probably only apply to landlords that have a certain
number of rental units. Independent landlords (like your aunt) are not
concerned about who sleeps in the rooms. When an agency manages
rentals, then they are more strict about the guidelines.
I don't believe that any of this applies to homes you own.
Kristie, a newbie
Leslie530@... wrote:
by the local department of housing. I believe that these only apply to
rental units, and probably only apply to landlords that have a certain
number of rental units. Independent landlords (like your aunt) are not
concerned about who sleeps in the rooms. When an agency manages
rentals, then they are more strict about the guidelines.
I don't believe that any of this applies to homes you own.
Kristie, a newbie
Leslie530@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/14/2006 4:10:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> dragteine@... writes:
>
> My aunt owns properties in SC that she rents out and has a tenant that is
> renting a two bedroom house to a couple with a boy and a girl and they are
> sharing a room. I don't know what part you live in, is it different from
> county to county?
>
> Shannon
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/14/2006 11:37:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
LuvnMomma24boys@... writes:
Well, I don't know the law, but supposedly in SC they will not rent a two
bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
In Chicago you'll get evicted if you have a 2 bedroom apartment and you
give
birth to a child of the opposite sex. It happened to a friend of mine, but
I'm not sure what the law is. That may have been the apartment complex's
policy.
Very true i have a friend right now who is being evicted at the end of her
lease because she just had a little girl and has a 5 year old boy, she has
been living there 6 years.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(6 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
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LuvnMomma24boys@... writes:
Well, I don't know the law, but supposedly in SC they will not rent a two
bedroom apt. to people with opposite sex children.
In Chicago you'll get evicted if you have a 2 bedroom apartment and you
give
birth to a child of the opposite sex. It happened to a friend of mine, but
I'm not sure what the law is. That may have been the apartment complex's
policy.
Very true i have a friend right now who is being evicted at the end of her
lease because she just had a little girl and has a 5 year old boy, she has
been living there 6 years.
~Alyssa
Slightly crunchy, unschooling Mom to Landen(2 1/2) and Gage(6 months)
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like you do when nobody's watching."
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/14/2006 11:42:49 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
SquishyMommy1@... writes:
In Chicago you'll get evicted if you have a 2 bedroom apartment and you
give
birth to a child of the opposite sex. It happened to a friend of mine,
but
I'm not sure what the law is. That may have been the apartment complex's
policy.
I told them that LOL!!
Mandy
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
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SquishyMommy1@... writes:
In Chicago you'll get evicted if you have a 2 bedroom apartment and you
give
birth to a child of the opposite sex. It happened to a friend of mine,
but
I'm not sure what the law is. That may have been the apartment complex's
policy.
I told them that LOL!!
Mandy
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
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aplan4life
Okay, I checked this time using 'oridinance' instead of law and yes,
there are ordinances for certain ages in many states but 2 full pages
(and way more turned up as a result) of Google search; each of these
ordinances is meant for those in the foster care system or shelter
guidelines.
Anything other than that is probably property owner/apartment owner
preference.
:-)
there are ordinances for certain ages in many states but 2 full pages
(and way more turned up as a result) of Google search; each of these
ordinances is meant for those in the foster care system or shelter
guidelines.
Anything other than that is probably property owner/apartment owner
preference.
:-)