If you were in the SCA, could you share your experience?
aplan4life
We were at a local park and there was a group having knightly battles
so I went and asked what it was and a wonderful woman gave me a brief
history. I've been to so many unschooling sites that I only remember
SEEING the initials SCA. Reason I'm asking is because my son was
totally taken with it and is interested. I went to the SCA site but
am curious to know what your experiences were with this group.
Thanks
Sandy W
http://relaxedhomeschool.blogspot.com
so I went and asked what it was and a wonderful woman gave me a brief
history. I've been to so many unschooling sites that I only remember
SEEING the initials SCA. Reason I'm asking is because my son was
totally taken with it and is interested. I went to the SCA site but
am curious to know what your experiences were with this group.
Thanks
Sandy W
http://relaxedhomeschool.blogspot.com
Sylvia Toyama
Sandra Dodd has a link for SCA at her site with lots of info. www.sandradodd.com
Sylvia
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On 4/11/06, aplan4life <aplan4life@...> wrote:
Pensacola. What I can say is that our experience here in Pensacola was not
the best. The attitude here in this area of the country is "stick jocks
rule" or "if there is no fighting what good is it?" The SCA group here
revolves around fighting. The arts and science are what are done to get to
do the fighting. Young kids (especially boys) are pushed into fighting at
an early age and if they express an interest in other activites (such as
archery or (gasp) costuming) they are made to feel less manly or that those
interests are less worthy! That is NOT the message I want my children to
hear! And this group does not provide things for the children to do and
most of the time would prefer if the children were not involved.
We moved from Oregon where we were very involved. We hold some titles that
we worked hard for. Oregon has a totally different SCA. There is heavy
emphasis on the arts and science. Because of the weather there are two
seasons. The late spring, summer and early fall is considered "tourney
season" and there are lots of battles, wars, tournaments and other "manly
sports" played. The rest of the year is "feast season" when there are arts
and science competitions and classes, feasts, masqued balls, dance and
heraldry symposiums, etc. Even during the summer when it is "tourney
season" there will be arts and science related activities and activities for
children. And there are tournaments during feast season, but smaller and
with less emphasis. (I mean who really wants to go out and fight when it is
sleeting? Although I could ask the opposite of the fighters down here - who
really wants to go out and fight when it is 100° with 100% humidity?)
When we moved back down here we were greatly shocked at the difference. The
costuming was mostly sloppy (do the least that you need to get by), little
attention was paid to detail, tournaments were the thing to do and don't
expect any arts. Feasts have been greatly lacking as they try to disguise
modern food to appear (or be named like) something that could be medieval
(Hello, Rice a Roni is NOT period!) We tried to implement some changes, but
it just didn't take. I ended up being the only one who was seriously doing
cooking, sewing, weaving, music, dance, and heraldry. Also with little ones
running around with nothing to do we found ourselves not doing SCA but doing
camping in funny clothes chasing after kids.
We've thought recently about getting back involved. Everytime we do we see
this group of SCAers at outdoor gatherings (like Festival on the Green or
the Ren Faire) and "back away slowly." We miss being involved *a lot* and
have thought maybe doing one of two things. 1. Go to events that are not
in our area and not get involved at all locally or 2. get involved but do
our own thing and pffft on anyone who poo-poos us. The problem with 1 is
that we enjoyed our local group in Oregon and had a lot of fun doing the
things that we did. The problem with 2 is sort of complicated since I was
one of the forcing factors that caused this group to go from being a Barony
back to a Shire (big group with status and titles to a small group with no
titles) so my presence with some of the people who still have a lot of pull
(namely the former Baron and Baroness) is not very well appreciated. It's
complicated.
Call me if you want to talk about it. I have lots of pictures from my time
in the SCA as well as tons of books on costuming and heraldry and cooking.
I also play recorder and have done a lot of medieval singing. Although, if
we got enough of us whacky unschoolers together and made ourselves look
really spiffy and went and started doing our own thing (with or
independently from the local group) that could be fun and we would know that
the kids had something to do! :)
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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>Sandy, I've been heavily involved in the SCA, including the one here in
> We were at a local park and there was a group having knightly battles
> so I went and asked what it was and a wonderful woman gave me a brief
> history. I've been to so many unschooling sites that I only remember
> SEEING the initials SCA. Reason I'm asking is because my son was
> totally taken with it and is interested. I went to the SCA site but
> am curious to know what your experiences were with this group.
Pensacola. What I can say is that our experience here in Pensacola was not
the best. The attitude here in this area of the country is "stick jocks
rule" or "if there is no fighting what good is it?" The SCA group here
revolves around fighting. The arts and science are what are done to get to
do the fighting. Young kids (especially boys) are pushed into fighting at
an early age and if they express an interest in other activites (such as
archery or (gasp) costuming) they are made to feel less manly or that those
interests are less worthy! That is NOT the message I want my children to
hear! And this group does not provide things for the children to do and
most of the time would prefer if the children were not involved.
We moved from Oregon where we were very involved. We hold some titles that
we worked hard for. Oregon has a totally different SCA. There is heavy
emphasis on the arts and science. Because of the weather there are two
seasons. The late spring, summer and early fall is considered "tourney
season" and there are lots of battles, wars, tournaments and other "manly
sports" played. The rest of the year is "feast season" when there are arts
and science competitions and classes, feasts, masqued balls, dance and
heraldry symposiums, etc. Even during the summer when it is "tourney
season" there will be arts and science related activities and activities for
children. And there are tournaments during feast season, but smaller and
with less emphasis. (I mean who really wants to go out and fight when it is
sleeting? Although I could ask the opposite of the fighters down here - who
really wants to go out and fight when it is 100° with 100% humidity?)
When we moved back down here we were greatly shocked at the difference. The
costuming was mostly sloppy (do the least that you need to get by), little
attention was paid to detail, tournaments were the thing to do and don't
expect any arts. Feasts have been greatly lacking as they try to disguise
modern food to appear (or be named like) something that could be medieval
(Hello, Rice a Roni is NOT period!) We tried to implement some changes, but
it just didn't take. I ended up being the only one who was seriously doing
cooking, sewing, weaving, music, dance, and heraldry. Also with little ones
running around with nothing to do we found ourselves not doing SCA but doing
camping in funny clothes chasing after kids.
We've thought recently about getting back involved. Everytime we do we see
this group of SCAers at outdoor gatherings (like Festival on the Green or
the Ren Faire) and "back away slowly." We miss being involved *a lot* and
have thought maybe doing one of two things. 1. Go to events that are not
in our area and not get involved at all locally or 2. get involved but do
our own thing and pffft on anyone who poo-poos us. The problem with 1 is
that we enjoyed our local group in Oregon and had a lot of fun doing the
things that we did. The problem with 2 is sort of complicated since I was
one of the forcing factors that caused this group to go from being a Barony
back to a Shire (big group with status and titles to a small group with no
titles) so my presence with some of the people who still have a lot of pull
(namely the former Baron and Baroness) is not very well appreciated. It's
complicated.
Call me if you want to talk about it. I have lots of pictures from my time
in the SCA as well as tons of books on costuming and heraldry and cooking.
I also play recorder and have done a lot of medieval singing. Although, if
we got enough of us whacky unschoolers together and made ourselves look
really spiffy and went and started doing our own thing (with or
independently from the local group) that could be fun and we would know that
the kids had something to do! :)
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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S Drag-teine
I too am in the SCA what is it that your son is truly interested because I
can also suggest some other groups that may interest you more but it depends
on what you are looking for?
Shannon
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can also suggest some other groups that may interest you more but it depends
on what you are looking for?
Shannon
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Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] If you were in the SCA, could you share
your experience?
On 4/11/06, aplan4life <aplan4life@...> wrote:
>
> We were at a local park and there was a group having knightly battles
> so I went and asked what it was and a wonderful woman gave me a brief
> history. I've been to so many unschooling sites that I only remember
> SEEING the initials SCA. Reason I'm asking is because my son was
> totally taken with it and is interested. I went to the SCA site but
> am curious to know what your experiences were with this group.
Sandy, I've been heavily involved in the SCA, including the one here in
Pensacola. What I can say is that our experience here in Pensacola was not
the best. The attitude here in this area of the country is "stick jocks
rule" or "if there is no fighting what good is it?" The SCA group here
revolves around fighting. The arts and science are what are done to get to
do the fighting. Young kids (especially boys) are pushed into fighting at
an early age and if they express an interest in other activites (such as
archery or (gasp) costuming) they are made to feel less manly or that those
interests are less worthy! That is NOT the message I want my children to
hear! And this group does not provide things for the children to do and
most of the time would prefer if the children were not involved.
We moved from Oregon where we were very involved. We hold some titles that
we worked hard for. Oregon has a totally different SCA. There is heavy
emphasis on the arts and science. Because of the weather there are two
seasons. The late spring, summer and early fall is considered "tourney
season" and there are lots of battles, wars, tournaments and other "manly
sports" played. The rest of the year is "feast season" when there are arts
and science competitions and classes, feasts, masqued balls, dance and
heraldry symposiums, etc. Even during the summer when it is "tourney
season" there will be arts and science related activities and activities for
children. And there are tournaments during feast season, but smaller and
with less emphasis. (I mean who really wants to go out and fight when it is
sleeting? Although I could ask the opposite of the fighters down here - who
really wants to go out and fight when it is 100° with 100% humidity?)
When we moved back down here we were greatly shocked at the difference. The
costuming was mostly sloppy (do the least that you need to get by), little
attention was paid to detail, tournaments were the thing to do and don't
expect any arts. Feasts have been greatly lacking as they try to disguise
modern food to appear (or be named like) something that could be medieval
(Hello, Rice a Roni is NOT period!) We tried to implement some changes, but
it just didn't take. I ended up being the only one who was seriously doing
cooking, sewing, weaving, music, dance, and heraldry. Also with little ones
running around with nothing to do we found ourselves not doing SCA but doing
camping in funny clothes chasing after kids.
We've thought recently about getting back involved. Everytime we do we see
this group of SCAers at outdoor gatherings (like Festival on the Green or
the Ren Faire) and "back away slowly." We miss being involved *a lot* and
have thought maybe doing one of two things. 1. Go to events that are not
in our area and not get involved at all locally or 2. get involved but do
our own thing and pffft on anyone who poo-poos us. The problem with 1 is
that we enjoyed our local group in Oregon and had a lot of fun doing the
things that we did. The problem with 2 is sort of complicated since I was
one of the forcing factors that caused this group to go from being a Barony
back to a Shire (big group with status and titles to a small group with no
titles) so my presence with some of the people who still have a lot of pull
(namely the former Baron and Baroness) is not very well appreciated. It's
complicated.
Call me if you want to talk about it. I have lots of pictures from my time
in the SCA as well as tons of books on costuming and heraldry and cooking.
I also play recorder and have done a lot of medieval singing. Although, if
we got enough of us whacky unschoolers together and made ourselves look
really spiffy and went and started doing our own thing (with or
independently from the local group) that could be fun and we would know that
the kids had something to do! :)
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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On 4/11/06, Pampered Chef Michelle <pamperedmichelle@...> wrote:
didn't mean to say that the only thing being done in this part of the
country was fighting. It is mostly this one group that is so stick jock
oriented. It's really sad because when I lived here in the 80's there were
nights for dancing, costuming, armoring, music, and heraldry. There was
something going on several nights a month. So when we moved and found out
that they had become a barony it didn't surprise us as they had been moving
positively in that area. When we moved back and saw that the barony was
doing none of those things anymore, had no guilds or interest nights, was
only doing fighting, did not give a good representation of the SCA when in
public and were not filing reports (much less on time) we were shocked! I
knew the crown princess at the time and had a long talk with her about what
was (not) happening in the group.
Unfortunately, there are no other medieval recreation groups in our area.
The Adrian Empire has several groups in mid and south Florida but nothing
close at all to us. There is a Confederate War group as well as a
Revolutionary War group here. Their gowns are SO pretty but SO expensive to
do correctly. There used to be a Sherlock gathering here but that was
20-odd years ago and I haven't seen the guy who used to do that in probably
10. That was fun (but also SO expensive to costume for!)
Sandy, call me if you want to talk more about the SCA or come over sometime
and look at my books. All my costumes are in storage, but I do have photos
and miscellaneous jewelry and regalia from when we were involved.
--
>Darn! First I had meant to send this privately to Sandy. Secondly, I
>
> Sandy, I've been heavily involved in the SCA, including the one here in
> Pensacola. What I can say is that our experience here in Pensacola was not
> the best. The attitude here in this area of the country is "stick jocks
> rule" or "if there is no fighting what good is it?"
>
didn't mean to say that the only thing being done in this part of the
country was fighting. It is mostly this one group that is so stick jock
oriented. It's really sad because when I lived here in the 80's there were
nights for dancing, costuming, armoring, music, and heraldry. There was
something going on several nights a month. So when we moved and found out
that they had become a barony it didn't surprise us as they had been moving
positively in that area. When we moved back and saw that the barony was
doing none of those things anymore, had no guilds or interest nights, was
only doing fighting, did not give a good representation of the SCA when in
public and were not filing reports (much less on time) we were shocked! I
knew the crown princess at the time and had a long talk with her about what
was (not) happening in the group.
Unfortunately, there are no other medieval recreation groups in our area.
The Adrian Empire has several groups in mid and south Florida but nothing
close at all to us. There is a Confederate War group as well as a
Revolutionary War group here. Their gowns are SO pretty but SO expensive to
do correctly. There used to be a Sherlock gathering here but that was
20-odd years ago and I haven't seen the guy who used to do that in probably
10. That was fun (but also SO expensive to costume for!)
Sandy, call me if you want to talk more about the SCA or come over sometime
and look at my books. All my costumes are in storage, but I do have photos
and miscellaneous jewelry and regalia from when we were involved.
--
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> The Pampered Chef
> 850-474-0817
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>
Breezy Stevens/ Lady Lasairíona of Crea
On the topic of the SCA, I could write for days! But...I'd really hate
to have this one person's negative experience influence your decision.
I've been in and out of the SCA for about 13 years, and the last 5 my
husband and I have put most of our time into creating a group from
scratch in our area. We've been through soooooooooo many different
situations and people in that time, and we've had people complain that
there's not enough of this or that. Actually, non-fighters sometimes
complain about the whole structure of the SCA in general, because it's
combat oriented. They seem to forget what age we're recreating- combat
was a large part of life at that time. I myself am not a fighter, so I'm
not speaking from a stick-jock point of view at all, at all. BUT... the
one thing I can say is that the SCA is what you make of it. The people
who are doing the fighting, decided they wanted to fight, and they
pursued their interest. Anything A&S oriented (or whatever your
interests are) has to be started by someone. If it's your interest, and
it doesn't seem to exist, then there's your niche! Just go for it. I get
irked when people seem to think that all activities/ interests/ pursuits
need to be provided for them. If I'm not interested in something, I'm
not likely to get behind making sure it happens- there is, particularly
in a small group, plenty of work that already has to be done just to
keep it running, and that takes most of my time already. I have enough
of a hard time finding a chance to pursue my own interests in any depth,
let alone try to surmise what others might want out of the SCA and try
to provide it for them. The SCA is volunteer based, so any activities
that happen have been planned and organized by some other member. If you
want to see something happen, then make it happen-otherwise you have no
one to blame but yourself. Talking with the royalty is a good start, but
not by any means the only or even necessarily the best way to get things
done. Forgive me if I sound harsh, but this sounds uncannily similar to
so many other complaints I've heard over the years, from people who want
certain things to happen, but don't want to expend any effort to make it
work.
Anyway, like I said, I could write all day, and maybe I've gotten the
wrong impression, but you sort of hit a nerve there!
What kingdom is it that you're in? I live in Oertha.
Breezy
to have this one person's negative experience influence your decision.
I've been in and out of the SCA for about 13 years, and the last 5 my
husband and I have put most of our time into creating a group from
scratch in our area. We've been through soooooooooo many different
situations and people in that time, and we've had people complain that
there's not enough of this or that. Actually, non-fighters sometimes
complain about the whole structure of the SCA in general, because it's
combat oriented. They seem to forget what age we're recreating- combat
was a large part of life at that time. I myself am not a fighter, so I'm
not speaking from a stick-jock point of view at all, at all. BUT... the
one thing I can say is that the SCA is what you make of it. The people
who are doing the fighting, decided they wanted to fight, and they
pursued their interest. Anything A&S oriented (or whatever your
interests are) has to be started by someone. If it's your interest, and
it doesn't seem to exist, then there's your niche! Just go for it. I get
irked when people seem to think that all activities/ interests/ pursuits
need to be provided for them. If I'm not interested in something, I'm
not likely to get behind making sure it happens- there is, particularly
in a small group, plenty of work that already has to be done just to
keep it running, and that takes most of my time already. I have enough
of a hard time finding a chance to pursue my own interests in any depth,
let alone try to surmise what others might want out of the SCA and try
to provide it for them. The SCA is volunteer based, so any activities
that happen have been planned and organized by some other member. If you
want to see something happen, then make it happen-otherwise you have no
one to blame but yourself. Talking with the royalty is a good start, but
not by any means the only or even necessarily the best way to get things
done. Forgive me if I sound harsh, but this sounds uncannily similar to
so many other complaints I've heard over the years, from people who want
certain things to happen, but don't want to expend any effort to make it
work.
Anyway, like I said, I could write all day, and maybe I've gotten the
wrong impression, but you sort of hit a nerve there!
What kingdom is it that you're in? I live in Oertha.
Breezy
Breezy Stevens/ Lady Lasairíona of Crea
> What kingdom is it that you're in? I live in Oertha.Duh! Which is in the Kingdom of the West...
:)Breezy
Pampered Chef Michelle
On 4/11/06, Breezy Stevens/ Lady Lasairíona of Creavanore <
redgoddess@...> wrote:
they say Meridian) accent.) I started the SCA in the Midrealm, moved here,
then a short time in Calafia in Caid and then up to An Tir. An Tir is where
my heart is!
I agree that the SCA isn't supposed to cater to you and that you get out of
it what you put into it. And while fighting was a big part of the middle
ages, there was SO much more. People were living which means that they were
cooking, making clothes, building houses, raising children, growing food,
tending animals, and entertaining themselves. All the things that fighters
did when they weren't fighting. We have "weekend warriors" and that tends
to be all they want to do. The problem I had with the group here is that
it's hard to get something started when you don't have the support of the
group leader (in this case a baron who hated dancing, only wore garb because
he had to, took no effort in doing anything medieval - not sure why he is
even in the SCA - oh yeah, he gets to hit people with stick and feel
powerful.) It's no fun to cook by yourself or explore naming practices of
the Scandinavian people or make music and especially dance. It's a LONG
story LOL!! Anyway, as for talking to royalty as I said she was a friend
and our conversation started off with, "Tell me, honestly, what is happening
in your barony." And at the time I was the seneschale. :)
--
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redgoddess@...> wrote:
>Breezy, I am currently in Meridies (say that with a STRONG southern (or as
>
>
> What kingdom is it that you're in? I live in Oertha.
they say Meridian) accent.) I started the SCA in the Midrealm, moved here,
then a short time in Calafia in Caid and then up to An Tir. An Tir is where
my heart is!
I agree that the SCA isn't supposed to cater to you and that you get out of
it what you put into it. And while fighting was a big part of the middle
ages, there was SO much more. People were living which means that they were
cooking, making clothes, building houses, raising children, growing food,
tending animals, and entertaining themselves. All the things that fighters
did when they weren't fighting. We have "weekend warriors" and that tends
to be all they want to do. The problem I had with the group here is that
it's hard to get something started when you don't have the support of the
group leader (in this case a baron who hated dancing, only wore garb because
he had to, took no effort in doing anything medieval - not sure why he is
even in the SCA - oh yeah, he gets to hit people with stick and feel
powerful.) It's no fun to cook by yourself or explore naming practices of
the Scandinavian people or make music and especially dance. It's a LONG
story LOL!! Anyway, as for talking to royalty as I said she was a friend
and our conversation started off with, "Tell me, honestly, what is happening
in your barony." And at the time I was the seneschale. :)
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
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Pampered Chef Michelle
On 4/11/06, Breezy Stevens/ Lady Lasairíona of Creavanore <
redgoddess@...> wrote:
of your kingdom. :)
--
Michelle aka THL Melbrigda Leifursdottir
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redgoddess@...> wrote:
>I knew that. Even though you have to go through An Tir to get to the rest
> > What kingdom is it that you're in? I live in Oertha.
>
> Duh! Which is in the Kingdom of the West...
>
> :)Breezy
of your kingdom. :)
--
Michelle aka THL Melbrigda Leifursdottir
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Andrea Roher
I bookmarked this thread to go back to, and even though it's a bit old
I did want to share my BRIEF experience with the SCA. We ran into the
SCA in Germany (dad was in the Army). I became extraordinarily
interested and started designing coat of arms for the family and the
like (an ongoing, currently stalled project). Mom and dad took me to
one meeting with one participant (not even a group meeting) and when
we left the meeting they told me they didn't want me to get involved
because they were concerned that I would "become obsessed" with it.
:(
It seemed to include everything I have had an abiding interest in...
seeing the world through a different point of view (my quick way of
seeing if I'd be interested in something is if this is an aspect of
it), medieval lifestyle, chivalry, knights, horesback riding,
falconry, arts and crafts, the lot.
Ever since that brief meeting over ten years ago, I've been interested
in joining. But now my life is a bit too complicated and funds too
tight for me to take the steps necessary... but if I'm honest with
myself, it's also probably a little bit of my "good girl" trying to
avoid getting in trouble with my parents by doing something they
disapproved of.
-----
Andrea L. Roher
Searching for my place in "Life, the Universe, and Everything" one day
at a time.
... maybe I've finally found it in NH! (www.FreeStateProject.org)
Visit my blog at evenstar75.blogspot.com.
I did want to share my BRIEF experience with the SCA. We ran into the
SCA in Germany (dad was in the Army). I became extraordinarily
interested and started designing coat of arms for the family and the
like (an ongoing, currently stalled project). Mom and dad took me to
one meeting with one participant (not even a group meeting) and when
we left the meeting they told me they didn't want me to get involved
because they were concerned that I would "become obsessed" with it.
:(
It seemed to include everything I have had an abiding interest in...
seeing the world through a different point of view (my quick way of
seeing if I'd be interested in something is if this is an aspect of
it), medieval lifestyle, chivalry, knights, horesback riding,
falconry, arts and crafts, the lot.
Ever since that brief meeting over ten years ago, I've been interested
in joining. But now my life is a bit too complicated and funds too
tight for me to take the steps necessary... but if I'm honest with
myself, it's also probably a little bit of my "good girl" trying to
avoid getting in trouble with my parents by doing something they
disapproved of.
-----
Andrea L. Roher
Searching for my place in "Life, the Universe, and Everything" one day
at a time.
... maybe I've finally found it in NH! (www.FreeStateProject.org)
Visit my blog at evenstar75.blogspot.com.
Pampered Chef Michelle
On 4/24/06, Andrea Roher <evenstar75@...> wrote:
several kings and queens and their first warning to anyone who has the
desire to fight in the crown list is to either be independently wealthy or
take out a loan. Being king is expensive :)
I wonder how many of us still do (or don't do) things because of our concern
of how our own parents might view our actions.
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
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>You will find that most people in the SCA have "tight funds" :) I've known
>
> Ever since that brief meeting over ten years ago, I've been interested
> in joining. But now my life is a bit too complicated and funds too
> tight for me to take the steps necessary... but if I'm honest with
> myself, it's also probably a little bit of my "good girl" trying to
> avoid getting in trouble with my parents by doing something they
> disapproved of.
several kings and queens and their first warning to anyone who has the
desire to fight in the crown list is to either be independently wealthy or
take out a loan. Being king is expensive :)
I wonder how many of us still do (or don't do) things because of our concern
of how our own parents might view our actions.
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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Ren Allen
"You will find that most people in the SCA have "tight funds" :)"
YEP!! We were pretty limited that way when we were dabbling with it.
My first garb was a very inexpensive swath of material I bought, took
over to a members house and she showed me how to make a simple dress.
It took one afternoon and very few dollars.
Most members are REALLY willing to help new folks get set up, many of
them gave us stuff we could use.
I bought all of our feast gear at places like thrift stores. Some
simple wooden bowls and pewter mugs. You might even find some good
candlesticks in your home, I was surprised at how much we could use
that we already had.
At the big feast in Pensacola (Arabian Nights) they actually kept a
box of garb for newcomers so you could be dressed appropriately by
borrowing. They WANT folks to check it out and get involved. Don't
let money hold you back!!
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
YEP!! We were pretty limited that way when we were dabbling with it.
My first garb was a very inexpensive swath of material I bought, took
over to a members house and she showed me how to make a simple dress.
It took one afternoon and very few dollars.
Most members are REALLY willing to help new folks get set up, many of
them gave us stuff we could use.
I bought all of our feast gear at places like thrift stores. Some
simple wooden bowls and pewter mugs. You might even find some good
candlesticks in your home, I was surprised at how much we could use
that we already had.
At the big feast in Pensacola (Arabian Nights) they actually kept a
box of garb for newcomers so you could be dressed appropriately by
borrowing. They WANT folks to check it out and get involved. Don't
let money hold you back!!
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
Andrea Roher
Okay... let's say you have me convinced to try it out (not that that
was difficult, given my pre-existing interest)... how do I go about
starting? We're currently in southern Virginia in farm country and I
have a 22 month old son that sometimes makes pursuing my own interests
safely (especially arts and crafts like crosstitching) a bit of a
challenge. How do I figure out who's (relatively) nearby and get
connected to the group?
was difficult, given my pre-existing interest)... how do I go about
starting? We're currently in southern Virginia in farm country and I
have a 22 month old son that sometimes makes pursuing my own interests
safely (especially arts and crafts like crosstitching) a bit of a
challenge. How do I figure out who's (relatively) nearby and get
connected to the group?
On 4/24/06, Ren Allen <starsuncloud@...> wrote:
> "You will find that most people in the SCA have "tight funds" :)"
>
> YEP!! We were pretty limited that way when we were dabbling with it.
>
SNIP
>
> At the big feast in Pensacola (Arabian Nights) they actually kept a
> box of garb for newcomers so you could be dressed appropriately by
> borrowing. They WANT folks to check it out and get involved. Don't
> let money hold you back!!
-----
Andrea L. Roher, mother to Tre (22 mo ds), wife to Rich
Searching for my place in "Life, the Universe, and Everything" one day
at a time.
... maybe I've finally found it in NH! (www.FreeStateProject.org)
Visit my blog at evenstar75.blogspot.com.
Pampered Chef Michelle
On 4/24/06, Andrea Roher <evenstar75@...> wrote:
is a zipcode finder or at least a state finder. From there you can go to
your Kingdom webpage and find out what local groups are near you. If you
don't have a local group don't let that stop you from going to events
(general term for feasts, wars, battles, tournaments, classes, etc.) that
are near you. Near is also a relative term in the SCA. A "near" event can
be something that is 3 hours away or it could be something that is 6 hours
away, depending on who you talk to and what part of the country you are from
LOL!! Virginia isn't as spread out of a state as somewhere like, say,
Florida. I am SO glad that our area of Florida is actually a part of
Meridies rather than Trimaris as I would end up going to Meridian events
more than Trimarian events. You DO NOT have to join your local group nor
only go to events that are in your kingdom. It's fun to go to other
kingdoms and see different kingdoms' pageantry! I believe that Virginiai n
Atlantia and they have a wonderful resource guide for costuming. It's even
bookmarked LOL!
http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=10
Even if you aren't in Atlantia it is still an excellent resource!
As Ren said beginner (or newbie) garb is easy to make and can be done with
about 4 yards of fabric for an adult and under 2 for a child. The key is to
make layers (so you can start with a basic "t-tunic" that you later put
something under or over) After a while you will be surprised that you are
haunting fabric stores for sales and mill ends. Some fabric stores offer
discounts if you are buying a whole or a remainder of a bolt of fabric. I
got an estra 10% savings not long ago because I threw a bolt of cloth on the
counter and said, "I want what's here." So I got 40% off for it being on
sale and then an additional 10% off for taking the rest of a bolt. They
like to do that more than having small pieces that they have to put as
remants. Remnants are also great places to pick up small pieces of
expensive fabrics for things such as bags, pouches, coifs, hats, headwear,
veils, etc. I got some lovely $12 a yard silk that was not quite a yard and
it was marked down from $10 to $4! So now I have fabric for a beautiful
lightweight veil. Oh and if you have a Jo Ann's fabric near you, they had 2
coupons for 50% off one item this coming Friday and Saturday (one for each
day) And yes, their % off coupons can be used on fabric, just make sure to
give it to the person who is cutting your fabric at the time. I have 4
coupons (2 for each day and from different sources - one from the mail one
from the paper) so I'm planning on picking up something lovely for myself
this weekend.
Feast gear is easy to come by. I don't like pewter as it puts a funny taste
in your mouth and can also leach lead (not a good thing). I tend to stick
more with wooden or bamboo (for longevity's sake). Pampered Chef has these
really cool bamboo serving spoons that are great for soups and make great
feastware! I've sold quite a few to SCA folks (not that I'm hawking my
wares, just showing you the variety of places you can find cheap
feastware). Wooden handled knives and two prong forks are also great for
feastware. Thrift stores and resale shops are great for these kinds of
things. POttery is also a great feastware and I've found tons of "first
pots" bowls, plates and mugs that first year pottery students have made that
are perfect for feast ware. A simple tablecloth (white usually) a pair of
brass candlesticks (if they allow open flame) a plate, mug and spoon and
knife and you are set (don't forget a napkin! LOL!)
Old sheets and blankets are great for making garb (costumes) with. The
cotten woven blankets that have cording running through them look very
period! And sheets from thrift stores are great because you can get LARGE
amounts of fabric for a little bit of money. Also old curtains as long as
they don't have rubberized linings are great for making fancier gowns,
tunics, and bodices (if you go late period). I would try to stay away from
most pattern companies' "historic costumes" for the middle ages. It was
simply put together. I think that their historic costume patterns for more
recent periods (such as Revolutionary and Civil war era) are more accurate
(or at least look that way from someone who has only studied that period on
the periphery).
The SCA can be as expensive or as frugal as you choose it to be. YOu can do
high Elizabethan down to the gold earrings and platform shoes with a period
pavillion with your arms painted on the roof or you can go peasant with
simple garb and a dome tent.
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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>Go to http://www.sca.org From there you can find groups. I believe there
> Okay... let's say you have me convinced to try it out (not that that
> was difficult, given my pre-existing interest)... how do I go about
> starting? We're currently in southern Virginia in farm country and I
> have a 22 month old son that sometimes makes pursuing my own interests
> safely (especially arts and crafts like crosstitching) a bit of a
> challenge. How do I figure out who's (relatively) nearby and get
> connected to the group?
is a zipcode finder or at least a state finder. From there you can go to
your Kingdom webpage and find out what local groups are near you. If you
don't have a local group don't let that stop you from going to events
(general term for feasts, wars, battles, tournaments, classes, etc.) that
are near you. Near is also a relative term in the SCA. A "near" event can
be something that is 3 hours away or it could be something that is 6 hours
away, depending on who you talk to and what part of the country you are from
LOL!! Virginia isn't as spread out of a state as somewhere like, say,
Florida. I am SO glad that our area of Florida is actually a part of
Meridies rather than Trimaris as I would end up going to Meridian events
more than Trimarian events. You DO NOT have to join your local group nor
only go to events that are in your kingdom. It's fun to go to other
kingdoms and see different kingdoms' pageantry! I believe that Virginiai n
Atlantia and they have a wonderful resource guide for costuming. It's even
bookmarked LOL!
http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=10
Even if you aren't in Atlantia it is still an excellent resource!
As Ren said beginner (or newbie) garb is easy to make and can be done with
about 4 yards of fabric for an adult and under 2 for a child. The key is to
make layers (so you can start with a basic "t-tunic" that you later put
something under or over) After a while you will be surprised that you are
haunting fabric stores for sales and mill ends. Some fabric stores offer
discounts if you are buying a whole or a remainder of a bolt of fabric. I
got an estra 10% savings not long ago because I threw a bolt of cloth on the
counter and said, "I want what's here." So I got 40% off for it being on
sale and then an additional 10% off for taking the rest of a bolt. They
like to do that more than having small pieces that they have to put as
remants. Remnants are also great places to pick up small pieces of
expensive fabrics for things such as bags, pouches, coifs, hats, headwear,
veils, etc. I got some lovely $12 a yard silk that was not quite a yard and
it was marked down from $10 to $4! So now I have fabric for a beautiful
lightweight veil. Oh and if you have a Jo Ann's fabric near you, they had 2
coupons for 50% off one item this coming Friday and Saturday (one for each
day) And yes, their % off coupons can be used on fabric, just make sure to
give it to the person who is cutting your fabric at the time. I have 4
coupons (2 for each day and from different sources - one from the mail one
from the paper) so I'm planning on picking up something lovely for myself
this weekend.
Feast gear is easy to come by. I don't like pewter as it puts a funny taste
in your mouth and can also leach lead (not a good thing). I tend to stick
more with wooden or bamboo (for longevity's sake). Pampered Chef has these
really cool bamboo serving spoons that are great for soups and make great
feastware! I've sold quite a few to SCA folks (not that I'm hawking my
wares, just showing you the variety of places you can find cheap
feastware). Wooden handled knives and two prong forks are also great for
feastware. Thrift stores and resale shops are great for these kinds of
things. POttery is also a great feastware and I've found tons of "first
pots" bowls, plates and mugs that first year pottery students have made that
are perfect for feast ware. A simple tablecloth (white usually) a pair of
brass candlesticks (if they allow open flame) a plate, mug and spoon and
knife and you are set (don't forget a napkin! LOL!)
Old sheets and blankets are great for making garb (costumes) with. The
cotten woven blankets that have cording running through them look very
period! And sheets from thrift stores are great because you can get LARGE
amounts of fabric for a little bit of money. Also old curtains as long as
they don't have rubberized linings are great for making fancier gowns,
tunics, and bodices (if you go late period). I would try to stay away from
most pattern companies' "historic costumes" for the middle ages. It was
simply put together. I think that their historic costume patterns for more
recent periods (such as Revolutionary and Civil war era) are more accurate
(or at least look that way from someone who has only studied that period on
the periphery).
The SCA can be as expensive or as frugal as you choose it to be. YOu can do
high Elizabethan down to the gold earrings and platform shoes with a period
pavillion with your arms painted on the roof or you can go peasant with
simple garb and a dome tent.
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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Sandy Deby
Hi wrote an email back a while now with the goals for my kids and was waiting for a reply from Kelly or I guess whoever, just needing some encouragement.
New to all this and hearfelt passonately and scarily moving ahead by my heart into something Ive known to be right from first hearing about it.
I have many questions on the hows??? 4 different kids with etirely differnt needs what if they all want to do differnt things in differnet directions how am I there for all of them at the same time?
Namste Sandy
Pampered Chef Michelle <pamperedmichelle@...> wrote:
New to all this and hearfelt passonately and scarily moving ahead by my heart into something Ive known to be right from first hearing about it.
I have many questions on the hows??? 4 different kids with etirely differnt needs what if they all want to do differnt things in differnet directions how am I there for all of them at the same time?
Namste Sandy
Pampered Chef Michelle <pamperedmichelle@...> wrote:
On 4/24/06, Andrea Roher <evenstar75@...> wrote:
>
> Okay... let's say you have me convinced to try it out (not that that
> was difficult, given my pre-existing interest)... how do I go about
> starting? We're currently in southern Virginia in farm country and I
> have a 22 month old son that sometimes makes pursuing my own interests
> safely (especially arts and crafts like crosstitching) a bit of a
> challenge. How do I figure out who's (relatively) nearby and get
> connected to the group?
Go to http://www.sca.org From there you can find groups. I believe there
is a zipcode finder or at least a state finder. From there you can go to
your Kingdom webpage and find out what local groups are near you. If you
don't have a local group don't let that stop you from going to events
(general term for feasts, wars, battles, tournaments, classes, etc.) that
are near you. Near is also a relative term in the SCA. A "near" event can
be something that is 3 hours away or it could be something that is 6 hours
away, depending on who you talk to and what part of the country you are from
LOL!! Virginia isn't as spread out of a state as somewhere like, say,
Florida. I am SO glad that our area of Florida is actually a part of
Meridies rather than Trimaris as I would end up going to Meridian events
more than Trimarian events. You DO NOT have to join your local group nor
only go to events that are in your kingdom. It's fun to go to other
kingdoms and see different kingdoms' pageantry! I believe that Virginiai n
Atlantia and they have a wonderful resource guide for costuming. It's even
bookmarked LOL!
http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=10
Even if you aren't in Atlantia it is still an excellent resource!
As Ren said beginner (or newbie) garb is easy to make and can be done with
about 4 yards of fabric for an adult and under 2 for a child. The key is to
make layers (so you can start with a basic "t-tunic" that you later put
something under or over) After a while you will be surprised that you are
haunting fabric stores for sales and mill ends. Some fabric stores offer
discounts if you are buying a whole or a remainder of a bolt of fabric. I
got an estra 10% savings not long ago because I threw a bolt of cloth on the
counter and said, "I want what's here." So I got 40% off for it being on
sale and then an additional 10% off for taking the rest of a bolt. They
like to do that more than having small pieces that they have to put as
remants. Remnants are also great places to pick up small pieces of
expensive fabrics for things such as bags, pouches, coifs, hats, headwear,
veils, etc. I got some lovely $12 a yard silk that was not quite a yard and
it was marked down from $10 to $4! So now I have fabric for a beautiful
lightweight veil. Oh and if you have a Jo Ann's fabric near you, they had 2
coupons for 50% off one item this coming Friday and Saturday (one for each
day) And yes, their % off coupons can be used on fabric, just make sure to
give it to the person who is cutting your fabric at the time. I have 4
coupons (2 for each day and from different sources - one from the mail one
from the paper) so I'm planning on picking up something lovely for myself
this weekend.
Feast gear is easy to come by. I don't like pewter as it puts a funny taste
in your mouth and can also leach lead (not a good thing). I tend to stick
more with wooden or bamboo (for longevity's sake). Pampered Chef has these
really cool bamboo serving spoons that are great for soups and make great
feastware! I've sold quite a few to SCA folks (not that I'm hawking my
wares, just showing you the variety of places you can find cheap
feastware). Wooden handled knives and two prong forks are also great for
feastware. Thrift stores and resale shops are great for these kinds of
things. POttery is also a great feastware and I've found tons of "first
pots" bowls, plates and mugs that first year pottery students have made that
are perfect for feast ware. A simple tablecloth (white usually) a pair of
brass candlesticks (if they allow open flame) a plate, mug and spoon and
knife and you are set (don't forget a napkin! LOL!)
Old sheets and blankets are great for making garb (costumes) with. The
cotten woven blankets that have cording running through them look very
period! And sheets from thrift stores are great because you can get LARGE
amounts of fabric for a little bit of money. Also old curtains as long as
they don't have rubberized linings are great for making fancier gowns,
tunics, and bodices (if you go late period). I would try to stay away from
most pattern companies' "historic costumes" for the middle ages. It was
simply put together. I think that their historic costume patterns for more
recent periods (such as Revolutionary and Civil war era) are more accurate
(or at least look that way from someone who has only studied that period on
the periphery).
The SCA can be as expensive or as frugal as you choose it to be. YOu can do
high Elizabethan down to the gold earrings and platform shoes with a period
pavillion with your arms painted on the roof or you can go peasant with
simple garb and a dome tent.
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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Sorry no one responded right away. Depends on the day....
Can you give us some real life examples? Maybe we can brainstorm....
Keep in mind that how is not as important as why. Once you can grasp
why, the how becomes easier and easier!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
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Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Deby <pod6freedom@...>
Hi wrote an email back a while now with the goals for my kids and
was waiting
for a reply from Kelly or I guess whoever, just needing some
encouragement.
New to all this and hearfelt passonately and scarily moving ahead by
my heart
into something Ive known to be right from first hearing about it.
I have many questions on the hows??? 4 different kids with etirely
differnt
needs what if they all want to do differnt things in differnet
directions how am
I there for all of them at the same time?
Namste Sandy
Can you give us some real life examples? Maybe we can brainstorm....
Keep in mind that how is not as important as why. Once you can grasp
why, the how becomes easier and easier!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Deby <pod6freedom@...>
Hi wrote an email back a while now with the goals for my kids and
was waiting
for a reply from Kelly or I guess whoever, just needing some
encouragement.
New to all this and hearfelt passonately and scarily moving ahead by
my heart
into something Ive known to be right from first hearing about it.
I have many questions on the hows??? 4 different kids with etirely
differnt
needs what if they all want to do differnt things in differnet
directions how am
I there for all of them at the same time?
Namste Sandy
Pampered Chef Michelle
On 4/24/06, kbcdlovejo@... <kbcdlovejo@...> wrote:
multiple interests and makes a weekly chart inputting all their activities
so that she keeps track of where she is supposed to be when and with whom!
:)
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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>Oh yes! Or you can do like one of my friends does for her 4 children with
> Sorry no one responded right away. Depends on the day....
>
> Can you give us some real life examples? Maybe we can brainstorm....
>
> Keep in mind that how is not as important as why. Once you can grasp
> why, the how becomes easier and easier!
multiple interests and makes a weekly chart inputting all their activities
so that she keeps track of where she is supposed to be when and with whom!
:)
--
Michelle
Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
The Pampered Chef
850-474-0817
http://www.pamperedchef.biz/michellelr
Ask me how you can save 60% on some of our most favorite products!
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