Sheila

My son is 2 1/2 so he has had most of the common vaccinations so this
is coming a little late. But, can I get some help to understand why
many people choose to not give their children vaccinations. I am not
opposed to the idea, just would like to understand more. When my child
was born, I couldn't find a reason not to. Apparently, I missed some
researched. Please enlighten me with your reasons, links to sites etc.
Thanks,
Sheila

sandralzires

Hello,
If you would like more info I can supply you with a ton. Please email
me @ sandralzires@... and I will send you all the links you
need. Thanks,
Sandra

Dana Dalberg

Hi Sheila......this is a topic I'm most passionate
about. I can go on FOREVER about it. Instead I'll give
you recommendations to two of my favorite books and a
website that has a ton of information and links.

The book list:
"What your Dr. may not tell you about Children's
vaccinations." By Stephanie Cave.
"Vaccinations: A thoughful parent's guide."
By Aviva Romm.

And the website:
www.vaclib.org

If after getting some information and you want to
discuss it or have any questions please feel free to
email me and ask. Namaste, Dana

--- Sheila <sahm2jakey@...> wrote:

> My son is 2 1/2 so he has had most of the common
> vaccinations so this
> is coming a little late. But, can I get some help to
> understand why
> many people choose to not give their children
> vaccinations. I am not
> opposed to the idea, just would like to understand
> more. When my child
> was born, I couldn't find a reason not to.
> Apparently, I missed some
> researched. Please enlighten me with your reasons,
> links to sites etc.
> Thanks,
> Sheila
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Deana Brown

Today was our 4th day of unschooling our 9 year old. She played her
online roleplaying game for 7 to 9 hours straight each and every day and
watched tv the remaining hours of the day besides eating and unloading
the dishwasher. Today I asked her if she wanted to go to the library
with her 2year old brother and I and she said no that she doesn't like
to read because it's too hard for her. Sigh.

Is this how unschooling is going to last or can hope that she will soon
lose interest in so much game and tv time. She is a good reader but
the teacher drilled it into her head so much in 3rd grade school that
she wasn't as good as the rest of the kids so now she doesn't even want
to try.

I am worried about her learning things that I feel are important like
reading and math. Any suggestions or reassurance would be great.

My husband and I think an approach like the following might be best

Monday - bible, Health
Tuesday - bible, Journal or story writing
Wednesday - Bible, History , Math
Thursday and Friday free to do as wishes


Deana

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Hi, I'm new and have a lot of the same concerns.

I am currently reading one of John Holt's books and have a few more
waiting for me. Plus Summerhill. So I have a while until I fully
understand "unschooling".

Right now I let my children have 30 mins of TV a day and 30 mins
computer a day per child. (30mins TV total and 30 mins per child.)

I would LOVE to let them go and give them total freedom to do as
they please, but I know it would be TV all day for one and Computer
all day for the other and the babies would go between the two all
day.

I know that pure unschooling would be to allow my child access to TV
and computer all day long. BUT, for my sanity could anyone come up
with any benefits of watching TV?

Also, any unschooling tips on how to get my 10 yo to loose weight
without being too controlling about it? Doctors orders and she's
only gained weight, even though she has tried to loose.

Thanks

[email protected]

>>I would LOVE to let them go and give them total freedom to do as they please, but I know it would be TV all day for one and Computer all day for the other and the babies would go between the two all day.>>

Right now both of my kids have free access to TV and computer. My 16 year old is upstairs reading. Later he'll probably be researching websites for an Anime convention he wants to go to in Seattle. For that he'll use his own money that he's earned working for the past two years in our family coffeeshop. My 12 year old is creating a dance routine while I post. We'll watch the end of Harry Potter when I'm done. She'll also continue reading the Harry Potter series later tonight. Earlier today she was creating a rescue operation for her stuffed dog and then treating him in her makeshift animal hospital.

My kids have the freedom to watch tv or play computer all day if they want. They use that freedom to make good choices. They follow their interests. Sometimes it's tv and computer and that's great. Sometimes it's not and that's great too.

>>BUT, for my sanity could anyone come up
with any benefits of watching TV? >>

Try reading here. http://sandradodd.com/tv

>>Also, any unschooling tips on how to get my 10 yo to loose weight without being too controlling about it? Doctors orders and she's only gained weight, even though she has tried to loose.>>

FWIW I tend to not take orders no matter who is giving them. I've have doctors suggest several things for my kids that didn't turn out to be either necessary or in their best interest. So I tend to question, ponder and decide for myself.

I would focus on having fun together. I'd plan ways to get the family up and moving in ways that appeal to the 10 year old. I'd have lots of nutritious proteins and complex carb foods around to eat. I'd also make sure she knows she's wonderful and loved just the way she is.

--
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>
>I know that pure unschooling would be to allow my child access to TV
> and computer all day long. BUT, for my sanity could anyone come up
> with any benefits of watching TV?

######### I think limiting TV, or computer use, or anything else my kids are interested in limits their creativity. My kids get interested in something and may watch programs over and over again (we have a digital recorder, like "TIVO"). Then they discuss the programs, make up different endings, act out the program and variations. My favorite example of computer us is the game my kids have played for over a year. It's called Runescape, and it is one of lots of "massively mulit-player role-playing games," or MMPRPGs for short. I can't begin to tell you how much my kids have benefitted from that game! My son, George, is losing interest in that game and has moved on to playing video games. But he still uses the computer to learn more about the games he enjoys.

Talking with their friends on-line is important to both my children (ages 13 and 11). Playing Runescape and instant messaging and posting to forums has given my kids a lot of typing experience. And they are very comfortable interacting with others through this media. An important skill, in my opinion.

>
> Also, any unschooling tips on how to get my 10 yo to loose weight
> without being too controlling about it? Doctors orders and she's
> only gained weight, even though she has tried to loose.
>

Gee, I was taught (I was nurse practitioner) that children should never loose weight! They should stop gaining weight and let their height catch up with their weight. And gaining weight is the usual response to dieting, so I don't think that limiting what she eats is a good idea. Meeting with a registered dietician might be helpful to you. And shame on your doctor if he didn't recommend that referral. Besides what he eats, make sure there is plenty of water easily accessible in a format he/she loves best. My kids want it cold. With ice is even better. Find out how your child likes it. (I can recommend a reverse osmosis water filter if your tap water tastes bad)

What is a good idea is physical activity. Get your child a good pair of shoes and take her for a stroll every day. Find out what she is interested in doing and then the two of you need to go do it everyday. Together. (Is there a heated pool near you?) Also, I think we all need to be reminded of the value of fidgeting. My daughter is constant motion. She literally hops up and down when she is talking! Talk about burning some calories! I think we tend to want children to be still.

I get irritated when people start lamenting the fact that kids are heavier than they used to be. When I was a kid, we were turned loose. My parents knew I was in the neighborhood somewhere..... We rode our bikes, wandered around in the undeveloped areas around our subdivision, walked to the TG&Y (a dollar store), climbed trees. There was very little limitation on our movements. My kids don't have that freedom, even though we live in a small town, and I imagine yours don't either. It isn't considered safe anymore. We go for bike rides together, but that takes getting mom to stop what she is doing. That limitation on movement means less exercise. And heavier kids.

Deirdre

michele oquinn

My 11yo ds loves Runescape. Finally became a member
this past week. Is it common for someone to ask
another player to call them? Last week that happened
but I didn't let him call. I have no idea who this
person was. HOW do we know what is safe? Anyone
could be impersonating a kid online, right? All we
had to do when my son signed up was give them my email
address. That doesn't seem like much.

I want him to enjoy his time online, but honestly I
don't follow those games too well. Please let me know
if I'm just being paranoid!

He really wants to meet other unschoolers since most
of his "schooled" friends don't have much time to be
online with him.

Thanks. Michele


--- aycock@... wrote:

> ######### I think limiting TV, or computer use, or
> anything else my kids are interested in limits their
> creativity. My kids get interested in something
> and may watch programs over and over again (we have
> a digital recorder, like "TIVO"). Then they discuss
> the programs, make up different endings, act out the
> program and variations. My favorite example of
> computer us is the game my kids have played for over
> a year. It's called Runescape, and it is one of
> lots of "massively mulit-player role-playing games,"
> or MMPRPGs for short. I can't begin to tell you how
> much my kids have benefitted from that game! My
> son, George, is losing interest in that game and has
> moved on to playing video games. But he still uses
> the computer to learn more about the games he
> enjoys.
>
> Talking with their friends on-line is important to
> both my children (ages 13 and 11). Playing
> Runescape and instant messaging and posting to
> forums has given my kids a lot of typing experience.
> And they are very comfortable interacting with
> others through this media. An important skill, in
> my opinion.

> Deirdre



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I personally would rather my son email instead of call AFTER I discussed the
dangers and warning signs. I don't think I would feel comfortable with phone
conversations though. I asked my son just now and he said he would think it
was weird if someone on Runescape asked to call him. Actually he said
"Really, really weird." I don't think you're being paranoid at all.

My son just joined unschooling gamers. It's a yahoo group. He might like
that. It's also moderated which is a big deal to me.

Hope this helps,

Dawn in TX



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Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: new to list



My 11yo ds loves Runescape. Finally became a member
this past week. Is it common for someone to ask
another player to call them? Last week that happened
but I didn't let him call. I have no idea who this
person was. HOW do we know what is safe? Anyone
could be impersonating a kid online, right? All we
had to do when my son signed up was give them my email
address. That doesn't seem like much.

I want him to enjoy his time online, but honestly I
don't follow those games too well. Please let me know
if I'm just being paranoid!

He really wants to meet other unschoolers since most
of his "schooled" friends don't have much time to be
online with him.

Thanks. Michele


--- aycock@... wrote:

> ######### I think limiting TV, or computer use, or
> anything else my kids are interested in limits their
> creativity. My kids get interested in something
> and may watch programs over and over again (we have
> a digital recorder, like "TIVO"). Then they discuss
> the programs, make up different endings, act out the
> program and variations. My favorite example of
> computer us is the game my kids have played for over
> a year. It's called Runescape, and it is one of
> lots of "massively mulit-player role-playing games,"
> or MMPRPGs for short. I can't begin to tell you how
> much my kids have benefitted from that game! My
> son, George, is losing interest in that game and has
> moved on to playing video games. But he still uses
> the computer to learn more about the games he
> enjoys.
>
> Talking with their friends on-line is important to
> both my children (ages 13 and 11). Playing
> Runescape and instant messaging and posting to
> forums has given my kids a lot of typing experience.
> And they are very comfortable interacting with
> others through this media. An important skill, in
> my opinion.

> Deirdre



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Date: 02/26/06 09:55:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: new to list


I get irritated when people start lamenting the fact that kids are heavier
than they used to be. When I was a kid, we were turned loose. My parents
knew I was in the neighborhood somewhere..... We rode our bikes, wandered
around in the undeveloped areas around our subdivision, walked to the TG&Y
(a dollar store), climbed trees. There was very little limitation on our
movements. My kids don't have that freedom, even though we live in a small
town, and I imagine yours don't either. It isn't considered safe anymore.
We go for bike rides together, but that takes getting mom to stop what she
is doing. That limitation on movement means less exercise. And heavier
kids.

Deirdre






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squeakybiscuit

I don't think you're being paranoid at all. If you call someone you
show up on caller id and then they can trace your address through
reverse phone directories.

Runescape has a rule about personal info, and anyone caught giving
or asking for personal info is banned from the site, so you can
report the incident to Jagex (the runescape creators) and this
person will likely be banned.





--- In [email protected], michele oquinn
<mmoquinn@...> wrote:
>
> My 11yo ds loves Runescape. Finally became a member
> this past week. Is it common for someone to ask
> another player to call them? Last week that happened
> but I didn't let him call. I have no idea who this
> person was. HOW do we know what is safe? Anyone
> could be impersonating a kid online, right? All we
> had to do when my son signed up was give them my email
> address. That doesn't seem like much.
>
> I want him to enjoy his time online, but honestly I
> don't follow those games too well. Please let me know
> if I'm just being paranoid!
>
> He really wants to meet other unschoolers since most
> of his "schooled" friends don't have much time to be
> online with him.
>
> Thanks. Michele
>
>
> --- aycock@... wrote:
>
> > ######### I think limiting TV, or computer use, or
> > anything else my kids are interested in limits their
> > creativity. My kids get interested in something
> > and may watch programs over and over again (we have
> > a digital recorder, like "TIVO"). Then they discuss
> > the programs, make up different endings, act out the
> > program and variations. My favorite example of
> > computer us is the game my kids have played for over
> > a year. It's called Runescape, and it is one of
> > lots of "massively mulit-player role-playing games,"
> > or MMPRPGs for short. I can't begin to tell you how
> > much my kids have benefitted from that game! My
> > son, George, is losing interest in that game and has
> > moved on to playing video games. But he still uses
> > the computer to learn more about the games he
> > enjoys.
> >
> > Talking with their friends on-line is important to
> > both my children (ages 13 and 11). Playing
> > Runescape and instant messaging and posting to
> > forums has given my kids a lot of typing experience.
> > And they are very comfortable interacting with
> > others through this media. An important skill, in
> > my opinion.
>
> > Deirdre
>
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Mary-
Thank-you! I've been so stuck on "exercising" that I haven't even
been thinking about other active things we could do that aren't
formally exercise. And she does need to loose weight, she is not
very active and she is about 25 lbs overweight, and if she looses
25, she won't be skinny-minny either. I had been thinking about it
and not really knowing what to do about it before the Dr. even said
it.

And once winter is over I think we can get outside and it will be
easier for her.
But we did play a lively game of follow the leader the other day,
maybe I'll have to just try to remember to get some active indoor
games going.

Thanks!

> >>Also, any unschooling tips on how to get my 10 yo to loose
weight without being too controlling about it? Doctors orders and
she's only gained weight, even though she has tried to loose.>>
>
> FWIW I tend to not take orders no matter who is giving them. I've
have doctors suggest several things for my kids that didn't turn out
to be either necessary or in their best interest. So I tend to
question, ponder and decide for myself.
>
> I would focus on having fun together. I'd plan ways to get the
family up and moving in ways that appeal to the 10 year old. I'd
have lots of nutritious proteins and complex carb foods around to
eat. I'd also make sure she knows she's wonderful and loved just the
way she is.
>
> --
> ~Mary
>
> "The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the
> green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling
truly
> alive."
> ~Thich Nhat Hanh
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "cmcchess" <cmcchess@...>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

cmcchess

>
> Gee, I was taught (I was nurse practitioner) that children should
never loose weight! They should stop gaining weight and let their
height catch up with their weight.




I thought so too, but the doc said that if she didn't start loosing
now she would just gain a lot more in puberty. I thought she'd shoot
up and thin out, but she never has and isn't heading in that direction.

I want the best for her, and leaving her alone about this, even though
several people on this message board have suggested it, just doesn't
seem like it will be a good idea. I definately need to change the
eating habits that we all have-especially me and dd. I always think of
myself as a food addict, seriously. I'm thin because of a condition I
have, but I cannot seem to stop eating junk, all the time.

Thanks everyone-for all the good advice about watching TV and loosing
weight (or not :) ) I think the long winter is making me feel like we
are always in the house, inactively.

Christy Mahoney

How can the doctor know that she will gain more during puberty? Many
kids gain wait in early puberty, and if she's 10, she probably in
early puberty.

S Drag-teine

"Also, any unschooling tips on how to get my 10 yo to loose weight
without being too controlling about it? Doctors orders and she's
only gained weight, even though she has tried to loose."

I am only going to make this suggestion though I don't know how unschooling
it is. There is a safe area within a person's frame that weight can be a
concern - it should not be an issue though.

A friend of mine's son has a severe weight problem and though he had no
restrictions they have worked together - the doctor, my friend and her son.

The first day they had him write down what he ate - even if it was one grape
or one cookie. Then they analyzed the calories, fat, carbs and nutrients.
The doctor noticed that though he was eating a lot of junk food it had a lot
of vitamin B in it and so they added a Vitamin B supplement.

They then set limits - reasonable limits like drinking enough water as well
as other fluids, eating a variety of food and keeping his carb intake to 100
or less a day and ways he can do that and still eat his favorite foods.

I don't know that a nutritionist will help you but it may be worth your
time. It wasn't for my husband or my father who are both Diabetic. They
wanted to put them both on these very limiting diets and my husband took the
information and when we got to the car said - you know I am not going to do
that, right? My father followed her rules, ate a diet of 1000 calories for a
week and gained weight.

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Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics]new to list

Hi, I'm new and have a lot of the same concerns.

I am currently reading one of John Holt's books and have a few more
waiting for me. Plus Summerhill. So I have a while until I fully
understand "unschooling".

Right now I let my children have 30 mins of TV a day and 30 mins
computer a day per child. (30mins TV total and 30 mins per child.)

I would LOVE to let them go and give them total freedom to do as
they please, but I know it would be TV all day for one and Computer
all day for the other and the babies would go between the two all
day.

I know that pure unschooling would be to allow my child access to TV
and computer all day long. BUT, for my sanity could anyone come up
with any benefits of watching TV?

Also, any unschooling tips on how to get my 10 yo to loose weight
without being too controlling about it? Doctors orders and she's
only gained weight, even though she has tried to loose.

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Does she like music & dance? We have DDR (dance dance revolution) for
X-box. It comes on some other game systems as well. You have to buy a
dance pad & the DDR software, but it is a great, energy-burning, indoor,
fun, family activity.



Here is one website where you can read more about it.



http://www.ddrfreak.com/aboutddr.php



heather



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>
> Gee, I was taught (I was nurse practitioner) that children should
never loose weight! They should stop gaining weight and let their
height catch up with their weight.




I thought so too, but the doc said that if she didn't start loosing
now she would just gain a lot more in puberty. I thought she'd shoot
up and thin out, but she never has and isn't heading in that direction.

I want the best for her, and leaving her alone about this, even though
several people on this message board have suggested it, just doesn't
seem like it will be a good idea. I definately need to change the
eating habits that we all have-especially me and dd. I always think of
myself as a food addict, seriously. I'm thin because of a condition I
have, but I cannot seem to stop eating junk, all the time.

Thanks everyone-for all the good advice about watching TV and loosing
weight (or not :) ) I think the long winter is making me feel like we
are always in the house, inactively.










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nrskay

Elizabeth has a DDR too for her PS2. She loves it, in fact, I had to
purchase another CD because she wore out/scratched the other one.

Most girls love to dance and it is a great way to get some exercise
without it feeling like exercise. Elizabeth is on it at least once a
day, sometimes more frequently, rocking out.

Kay

cmcchess

She actually does have a dance matt that she likes, but she'd much
rather sit at the computer or sit doing something else.

--- In [email protected], "Heather" <heather@...>
wrote:
>
> Does she like music & dance? We have DDR (dance dance revolution)
for
> X-box. It comes on some other game systems as well. You have to
buy a
> dance pad & the DDR software, but it is a great, energy-burning,
indoor,
> fun, family activity.
>
>
>
> Here is one website where you can read more about it.
>
>
>
> http://www.ddrfreak.com/aboutddr.php
>
>
>
> heather
>
>
>
> _____
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> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of cmcchess
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: new to list
>
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>
>
>
> >
> > Gee, I was taught (I was nurse practitioner) that children
should
> never loose weight! They should stop gaining weight and let their
> height catch up with their weight.
>
>
>
>
> I thought so too, but the doc said that if she didn't start
loosing
> now she would just gain a lot more in puberty. I thought she'd
shoot
> up and thin out, but she never has and isn't heading in that
direction.
>
> I want the best for her, and leaving her alone about this, even
though
> several people on this message board have suggested it, just
doesn't
> seem like it will be a good idea. I definately need to change the
> eating habits that we all have-especially me and dd. I always
think of
> myself as a food addict, seriously. I'm thin because of a
condition I
> have, but I cannot seem to stop eating junk, all the time.
>
> Thanks everyone-for all the good advice about watching TV and
loosing
> weight (or not :) ) I think the long winter is making me feel like
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:27 PM
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Subject: RE: [unschoolingbasics] family exercise

Does she like music & dance? We have DDR (dance dance revolution) for
X-box. It comes on some other game systems as well. You have to buy a
dance pad & the DDR software, but it is a great, energy-burning, indoor,
fun, family activity.



Here is one website where you can read more about it.



http://www.ddrfreak.com/aboutddr.php



heather



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Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: new to list





>
> Gee, I was taught (I was nurse practitioner) that children should
never loose weight! They should stop gaining weight and let their
height catch up with their weight.




I thought so too, but the doc said that if she didn't start loosing
now she would just gain a lot more in puberty. I thought she'd shoot
up and thin out, but she never has and isn't heading in that direction.

I want the best for her, and leaving her alone about this, even though
several people on this message board have suggested it, just doesn't
seem like it will be a good idea. I definately need to change the
eating habits that we all have-especially me and dd. I always think of
myself as a food addict, seriously. I'm thin because of a condition I
have, but I cannot seem to stop eating junk, all the time.

Thanks everyone-for all the good advice about watching TV and loosing
weight (or not :) ) I think the long winter is making me feel like we
are always in the house, inactively.










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jlh44music

I'm looking for info and sources on ordering DDR dance pads at a
reasonable price. I know that the inexpensive ones (soft surface
type) rip and split easily. We're looking for a long term
investment. My dd discovered this game a few years ago and it has
been a dream of hers to own her own some day. Now that we have a PS2,
we're moving to the next step.
Jann

Joyce Fetteroll

On Feb 27, 2006, at 9:40 PM, cmcchess wrote:

> She actually does have a dance matt that she likes, but she'd much
> rather sit at the computer or sit doing something else.

It's a lot more fun with two mats!

Joyce

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Joyce Fetteroll

On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:05 AM, jlh44music wrote:

> I know that the inexpensive ones (soft surface
> type) rip and split easily.

This may be more for others who might be interested in trying out DDR
but we've been happy for the last year and a half with the two Naki
pads we got. (The reviews are good at Amazon too.) But from what I
read they supposedly won't take the beating once you reach heavy and
perhaps not standard level. (We've only just gotten to standard and
one pad works fine but the other is starting to complain.) But they
are very good for those who don't want to make the big investment
right away.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000AV7GB/
qid=1141124512/sr=8-8/ref=pd_bbs_unbuck_8/002-5649649-0528030?
v=glance&s=videogames&n=541966

(Gamestop often has them, though they also sell their own which
aren't as good. Naki brand has a lady with butterfly wings on the box.)

I've heard good things about the Konami soft pads but they aren't
sold separately. They only come bundled with the game.

> I'm looking for info and sources on ordering DDR dance pads at a
> reasonable price.

The forum at DDR Freak has a good set up for reading about the
various pads:

http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=95103

Read the explanation at the beginning but then scroll down to the
bottom and click newest to oldest.

(Let me know what you find. We're looking to upgrade.)

Joyce

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>>She actually does have a dance matt that she likes, but she'd much rather sit at the computer or sit doing something else.>>

Me too. <g> But I'll usually get up of the couch if my hubby asks me to join him for a walk or a fun getaway. Maybe if you start playing she'll be tempted to join in.

--
~Mary

"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the
green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly
alive."
~Thich Nhat Hanh

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jlh44music

<But from what I read they supposedly won't take the beating once you
reach heavy and perhaps not standard level. (We've only just gotten to
standard and one pad works fine but the other is starting to
complain.) But they are very good for those who don't want to make the
big investment right away.>

Thanks for the info Joyce. We've been holding off as we want to make
the investment in the better pads. dd has a friend (3 teenage girls
in the family, all using DDR!) and they split the soft pads in no time
so they got the hard surface ones! I agree they're ok if you're just
starting out, but she's pretty good at it and moves right along!
I'll keep you posted!
Jann

nrskay

You could try ebay. Check under PS2, DDR: I have seen both the
software and the pads for under $50.00, but I'm not sure what type
of pads they are. I purchased the good pads at best buy a couple of
years ago and they run around $100.00.

Kay





> I'm looking for info and sources on ordering DDR dance pads at a
> reasonable price. I know that the inexpensive ones (soft
surface
> type) rip and split easily. We're looking for a long term
> investment. My dd discovered this game a few years ago and it has
> been a dream of hers to own her own some day. Now that we have a
PS2,
> we're moving to the next step.
> Jann
>