Julie Bogart

Is there one planned? My husband and I decided last night that I ought to look into going
to the next one. We had the end of our vacation during this last one, but I sorely need a
dose of whatever it is you all got!

Julie B

[email protected]

In a message dated 9/6/2004 1:04:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
julie@... writes:

Is there one planned? My husband and I decided last night that I ought to
look into going
to the next one. We had the end of our vacation during this last one, but I
sorely need a
dose of whatever it is you all got!

Julie B<<<<

After your last post, Julie, I was going to write back how MUCH you should
have attended this year's conference. Teetering right there on the edge, you
would have gotten a HUGE shove in the right direction. <g>

I hope you'll be able to make 2005. It'll be hosted by Ren Allen in
Pensacola, FL. In October---not sure of the dates yet. Ren's signing contracts as
soon as Frances blows over.

I'm glad for your breakthrough! <g>

~Kelly







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Marjorie Kirk

Is there one planned? My husband and I decided last night that I ought to
look into going to the next one. We had the end of our vacation during this
last one, but I sorely need a dose of whatever it is you all got!

Julie B

****************************************************************************
***********

Hey Julie,


The 2005 conference is scheduled for Pensacola, Florida, but I tentatively
volunteered to host 2006 in Columbus, Ohio!

You're in Cincinnati, right? You could not only get a dose of what we got,
you could help make it happen! (BG)


Marjorie

April M

Columbus, Ohio!?.....I'll be there!

~April
Mom to Kate-18, Lisa-15, Karl-13, & Ben-9.
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County.. http://www.homeschoolingonashoestring.com/REACH_home.html
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<http://www.michiganyouththeater.org/>
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Kimbro







-----Original Message-----
From: Marjorie Kirk [mailto:mkirk@...]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 8:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Conference for 2005





Is there one planned? My husband and I decided last night that I ought to
look into going to the next one. We had the end of our vacation during
this
last one, but I sorely need a dose of whatever it is you all got!

Julie B


****************************************************************************
***********

Hey Julie,


The 2005 conference is scheduled for Pensacola, Florida, but I tentatively
volunteered to host 2006 in Columbus, Ohio!

You're in Cincinnati, right? You could not only get a dose of what we
got,
you could help make it happen! (BG)


Marjorie





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Julie Bogart

--- In [email protected], "Marjorie Kirk" <mkirk@c...> wrote:

>
> Hey Julie,
>
>
> The 2005 conference is scheduled for Pensacola, Florida, but I tentatively
> volunteered to host 2006 in Columbus, Ohio!
>
> You're in Cincinnati, right? You could not only get a dose of what we got,
> you could help make it happen! (BG)


Count me in! I'd love to help!! :) I am in Cinci.

2005 we are going to Italy as a family. I may still make it to Pensacola in October. But
Columbus is a guarantee.

Thanks Marjorie.

Julie B

Kiersten Pasciak

We are in Cleveland and would definitely want to be part of it!
Columbus is not far at all.

Kiersten and Jacob (almost 3) and Emma (15 months)

New to these boards and mostly lurking...



--- In [email protected], "Julie Bogart"
<julie@b...> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Marjorie Kirk"
<mkirk@c...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey Julie,
> >
> >
> > The 2005 conference is scheduled for Pensacola, Florida, but I
tentatively
> > volunteered to host 2006 in Columbus, Ohio!
> >
> > You're in Cincinnati, right? You could not only get a dose of
what we got,
> > you could help make it happen! (BG)
>
>
> Count me in! I'd love to help!! :) I am in Cinci.
>
> 2005 we are going to Italy as a family. I may still make it to
Pensacola in October. But
> Columbus is a guarantee.
>
> Thanks Marjorie.
>
> Julie B

[email protected]

In a message dated 9/10/2004 9:19:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mkirk@... writes:

> The 2005 conference is scheduled for Pensacola, Florida, but I tentatively
> volunteered to host 2006 in Columbus, Ohio!
>
> You're in Cincinnati, right? You could not only get a dose of what we got,
> you could help make it happen! (BG)
>

Ooh! Columbus is good-I'm in the Akron area!

Peace,
Sang


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Marjorie Kirk

> The 2005 conference is scheduled for Pensacola, Florida, but I
> tentatively volunteered to host 2006 in Columbus, Ohio!
>
> You're in Cincinnati, right? You could not only get a dose of what we
> got, you could help make it happen! (BG)
>

Ooh! Columbus is good-I'm in the Akron area!

Peace,
Sang

****************************************************************************
****************

Now that so many people are interested in hosting the L&L conference, and
the fact that Kelly's missing her "baby" and wants to run another one, it
may not be in Columbus any time really soon, but I'd still love to host one
some time. Family Fun magazine's October issue just arrived (although I
don't know why, I never subscribed to it!) and they have an article about
Columbus, Ohio and what a great place it is for families. They state that
half of the population of the United States lives within a 550 mile radius
of Columbus. That would be very convenient for all those traveling
unschoolers.

Would people make two trips a year if there were spring and fall
conferences? Hmmmmm.....

Sang, are you on UnschoolersNetworkOhio or [email protected] ?
We have monthly or bimonthly unschoolers' get togethers here in Columbus and
announce them on these lists, as well as the local Columbus unschoolers
list. Maybe you could make it to one sometime.


Marjorie

[email protected]

In a message dated 9/18/2004 9:04:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mkirk@... writes:

Would people make two trips a year if there were spring and fall
conferences? Hmmmmm.....<<<<

We're in the middle of this discussion right now----and may be for a while
yet.

If I could wave my magic wand and set everything up "just so", I would have
the L&L appear every September or so (Aug to Nov) and to move around the
country from east to west. That way everyone has a chance to "get away" with a
relatively short trip/lower expenses at least every three-four years.

THEN, I would wave another wand to have mini-conferences show up all over
the US in the spring, as a kind of shot in the arm half-way through the year.
Pam Genant has pulled together a min-conference in Nov in NC----the kind I'm
talking about. One or two main speakers, with some locals taking on their own
specialties. Funshops for the adults and kids, who should be included, as
they are the reason we're doing this. Lots of time for socializing and fun. (to
check this out, go to _www.NCUnschoolers.com_ (http://www.NCUnschoolers.com) )


THAT would be my ideal way for things to play out.

Things are a bit up in the air right now for 2005, as I haven't heard from
Ren about the state of things in P'cola. We'll let y'all know as soon as we
know something. We may be shaking things around if the news is bad.

I love the idea of more than one conference---and the bigger the L&L gets,
the better breaking it up sounds! 573 is A LOT of people! But I'm not yet
willing to split in two. I think one big one and many little ones is good for
right now.

What do y'all think?

~Kelly



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diana jenner

----- Original Message -----
From: <kbcdlovejo@...>

> I love the idea of more than one conference---and the bigger the L&L
gets,
> the better breaking it up sounds! 573 is A LOT of people! But I'm not yet
> willing to split in two. I think one big one and many little ones is good
for
> right now.
>
> What do y'all think?
>
> ~Kelly
******************************

For my family, I had resigned myself eeking out enough money for one
vacation a year ~ Southern California to visit the in-laws. This year, they
planned to visit us, so I took my vacation as the L&L conference. We've now
decided we NEED two vacations per year: one to the in-laws and a second to
L&L <bwg> The best part of having one, big, national conference is the wide
variety of people who come from all over the country (& canada!!). It's
worth every single mile in the van and every single peanut butter sammich to
afford it!!

~diana :)


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Sara

Since I love a map....what would be super cool to see would be a US
map with all our unschooler people on it....you know....like pins
for families in each place. Then you could actually see where
concentrations are in states and areas. I wonder if this would be
possible on a webpage? Sara

Crystal

Then you could actually see where concentrations are in states and
areas. --Sara
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hey, wait a minute, I thought all the unschoolers of the world were
moving to Massachusetts! Wasn't there already a thread about this,
or was it on the other list?

Crystal

Julie Bogart

--- In [email protected], kbcdlovejo@a... wrote:

>
> I love the idea of more than one conference---and the bigger the L&L gets,
> the better breaking it up sounds! 573 is A LOT of people! But I'm not yet
> willing to split in two. I think one big one and many little ones is good for
> right now.
>
> What do y'all think?
>

I'm with you on both counts. I like the idea of a big one and mini-ones. Thanks Kelly!

And Marjorie, please let me know how to find out about the Columbus get togethers you
were mentioning.

Julie B

Marjorie Kirk

Julie,

We post the details on ColumbusMetroUnschoolers. You can join the list even
if you don't live in Columbus. It's pretty low volume. We generally meet
once or twice a month at a coffee shop or restaurant just to talk
unschooling, which we've found covers pretty much everything!


We'd love to have you join us!

Marjorie

-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Bogart [mailto:julie@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 4:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Conference for 2005


--- In [email protected], kbcdlovejo@a... wrote:

>
> I love the idea of more than one conference---and the bigger the L&L
> gets, the better breaking it up sounds! 573 is A LOT of people! But
> I'm not yet willing to split in two. I think one big one and many
> little ones is good for right now.
>
> What do y'all think?
>

I'm with you on both counts. I like the idea of a big one and mini-ones.
Thanks Kelly!

And Marjorie, please let me know how to find out about the Columbus get
togethers you were mentioning.

Julie B



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In a message dated 9/18/2004 9:04:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mkirk@... writes:

Now that so many people are interested in hosting the L&L conference, and
the fact that Kelly's missing her "baby" and wants to run another one, it
may not be in Columbus any time really soon, but I'd still love to host one
some time. Family Fun magazine's October issue just arrived (although I
don't know why, I never subscribed to it!) and they have an article about
Columbus, Ohio and what a great place it is for families. They state that
half of the population of the United States lives within a 550 mile radius
of Columbus. That would be very convenient for all those traveling
unschoolers.

Would people make two trips a year if there were spring and fall
conferences? Hmmmmm.....<<<

Too many lists. I think we discussed this on the L&L list.

But I think it would be a great idea if local groups would hold
mini-conferences each spring and let the big L&L be in the late summer/fall.

I'm hosting a funshop at next year's conference on hosting conferences---all
the "how to's" and "what to avoids".

With 573 attendees this year, I worry that it might get TOOOO big. Maybe we
will have to break it into two---but not yet.

I'm happy to discuss by phone how to get one off the ground. Just call me to
walk you through and hold your hand.

~Kelly







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Barbara Chase

>Since I love a map....what would be super cool to see would be a US
>map with all our unschooler people on it....


I would be willing to collect the data and put together an image to post on
a website. It would be possible to make the map image interactive with the
data, but way more difficult than I'm up for doing right now. Perhaps if
there ends up being lots of interest...


ciao
--bc--

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Barbara Chase

>I think one big one and many little ones is good for right now.
>
>What do y'all think?

I really really really want to come... but so far they are all on the East
Coast and I haven't been able to afford to travel that far yet. I'm in CA.
Yeah, we have the conference in Sacramento. But so far it has always
conflicted with some engagement that I can't miss :(

So, I'm totally in favor of having an East/West coast split on odd/even
years, and then I'd love to see little events pop up.


ciao
--bc--

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Nisha

We love maps here too. I imagine you could do that on a website,
we're on a swap list for homeschoolers where we do a swap with a
family once a month. We send stuff the kids make, things they find on
nature walks, maps and a few brochures from the tourist information
place, and other little interesting things we think of. The whole
deal, including postage is supposed to cost no more than about $5.
It's fun, and we are learning where the states are on the big map
hanging in our living room as we get packages from different people.
We're all learning geography, just from having fun, and the kids love
getting mail from another kid.
:)
Nisha


--- In [email protected], "Sara" <cheeps4u@y...>
wrote:
> Since I love a map....what would be super cool to see would be a US
> map with all our unschooler people on it....you know....like pins
> for families in each place. Then you could actually see where
> concentrations are in states and areas. I wonder if this would be
> possible on a webpage? Sara

kayb85

> we're on a swap list for homeschoolers where we do a swap with a
> family once a month. We send stuff the kids make, things they find
on
> nature walks, maps and a few brochures from the tourist information
> place, and other little interesting things we think of. The whole
> deal, including postage is supposed to cost no more than about $5.
> It's fun, and we are learning where the states are on the big map
> hanging in our living room as we get packages from different
people.

Can you share the website for that swap?
Sheila

[email protected]

In a message dated 9/18/2004 9:04:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mkirk@... writes:

> Sang, are you on UnschoolersNetworkOhio or [email protected] ?
> We have monthly or bimonthly unschoolers' get togethers here in Columbus and
> announce them on these lists, as well as the local Columbus unschoolers
> list. Maybe you could make it to one sometime.
>

Not UnschoolersNetworkOhio, but I am on oh-homeschool-for over a year, and I
can't believe I never noticed one of those announcements! LOL I'll have to pay
better attention-though I usually skim over stuff from Columbus or
Cincinnati, since I am just south of Akron-but it may be worth the drive one of these
days! Thanks for the info!

Peace,
Sang


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Penne & Buddies

A long time ago on an unschooling list far, far away... I believe it
was Earl Gary Stevens who kept a running log of our members'
whereabouts and sent forth a message periodically for our review.
It was awesome to watch the group expand with people all over the
world and the Internet was in its infancy back then. We've come a
long way, baby!

--- In [email protected], Barbara Chase
<barb@n...> wrote:
> >Since I love a map....what would be super cool to see would be a
US
> >map with all our unschooler people on it....
>
>
> I would be willing to collect the data and put together an image
to post on
> a website. It would be possible to make the map image interactive
with the
> data, but way more difficult than I'm up for doing right now.
Perhaps if
> there ends up being lots of interest...
>
>
> ciao
> --bc--
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[email protected]

In a message dated 9/24/04 2:57:58 AM, crrbuddy@... writes:

<< A long time ago on an unschooling list far, far away... I believe it

was Earl Gary Stevens who kept a running log of our members'

whereabouts >>

Members of what group?

I loved his articles. I wish they were all collected somewhere.

Sandra

debbie

I like his writing also.I did a quick search - here are URL's for four of Earl Gary Stevens' essays:

Our Non-directed Support Organization
http://members.aol.com/cmslhomeschool/nondirected.html

In Our Own Way
http://www.homeedmag.com/HEM/HEM142.97/142.97_clmn_tal.html

The Door is Open
http://www.homeedmag.com/INF/OH/oh_tal.opdr.html

Trusting Ourselves (this one is one page 5 of the newsletter)
http://www.mhea.com/files/sample_newsletter.pdf

debbie

SandraDodd@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/24/04 2:57:58 AM, crrbuddy@... writes:

<< A long time ago on an unschooling list far, far away... I believe it

was Earl Gary Stevens who kept a running log of our members'

whereabouts >>

Members of what group?

I loved his articles. I wish they were all collected somewhere.

Sandra


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pam sorooshian

Unschooling in difficult states - we don't want to get too bogged down
with details of state laws, here, but I need some information from
people who are unschooling in states where regulation would seem to
require curriculum or other more traditional approaches. I'd like to
find out more about how you manage to unschool and still meet state
requirements.

If you think it is of general interest, post on the list, but even if
you think it is too much about your particular homeschooling
regulations or laws, please write to me offlist.

-pam

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In a message dated 9/24/2004 3:35:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
> I'd like to
> find out more about how you manage to unschool and still meet state
> requirements.
>


I'm glad you brought that up, I am curious about this myself. This will be
our 1st "official" home/unschooling year. We have always been at home except
for DS's small stint in daycare while I worked there as well and the same DS
was in Kindergarten last year, which was a pure waste of precious time and
energy. Our 2 DS's (6 and 3) are happily home now and learning tons every day.

I'm in VA, which seems relatively strict. We sent our Letter of Intent and
got a Letter of Approval. I have a degree so that was all I really needed
there. But I did have to provide a list of curriculum stuff that we'd use. I
have heard others say they will invalidate their results for the SOL's (I'm not
sure how to do that) or take the tests for their kids or they take them
together and make it fun. As for being assessed by a certified school teacher and
handing in portfolios, who knows? I wouldn't even know where to begin finding a
teacher willing to "assess" an unschooled child and find anything positive.
Portfolios of your child's work or journals made up in "teacher lingo" sounds
long, tedious, and highly "schooly". So I don't know how we'll meet the VA
requirements. I have to choose a method, so it will be the testing. It seems
the least intrusive (we can test at home with CAT and turn in only the Language
and Math results) but I don't know what to do about the actual testing. I'm
not big on being dishonest with it but I really don't want him to have to sit
and color in little dots for hours at the kitchen table either.

Pamela


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Jason & Stephanie

<<<<<<<<Unschooling in difficult states -
I'd like to
find out more about how you manage to unschool and still meet state
requirements.>>>>>>>>> snip....
***** I live in PA, I know there are a few here in PA also. Compulsary age is 8-17, my oldest is 9 and this is our 2nd year to comply. You have to file a notarized affidavit and objectives. My objectives are very open and vague and state as interests the child numerous times.We are required to cover certain subjects in Elementary and Secondary years, and at least 180 days or 900/990 hours. We are to keep a log, a portfolio of samples and have an evaluation at the end of the year. The evaluator signs a letter that you put in your port to give to your district. There is testing in grades 3, 5 and 8. How I comply... I keep my "log" as a list of materials used, I write down websites, books, brochures, maps, cd-roms, games etc. that my son has used. He does generate a few writings here and there and pictures, I keep everything in a folder and then pick out a few to turn in. I do not require him to do anything, he knows the law and he knows if we missed something that we will just do something for the port. That hasn't happened yet, he has a broad range of interests and activites that could cover any subject. My son is not in a grade so we haven't tested, they haven't asked me yet but it's only our 2nd year. I tried not to be too long so if anyone has a question I'll try to answer. One more thing, all of the districts are not the same, some are friendly and some cause trouble it's very scary for some people.
Stephanie




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In a message dated 9/24/04 2:15:28 PM, b229d655@... writes:

<< Portfolios of your child's work or journals made up in "teacher lingo"
sounds
long, tedious, and highly "schooly". >>

Here's something that could be changed to past tense, a book list provided,
some tickets/brochures/photos, and there it would be:

http://sandradodd.com/unschoolingcurriculum

(note links to two by Pam at the bottom)

Sandra

Nisha

--- In [email protected], "kayb85" <sheran@p...>
wrote:
> Can you share the website for that swap?
> Sheila

It's thru another yahoo group. Is it okay to post that here? Some
lists look at that as spam.
Nisha

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In a message dated 9/24/2004 8:04:31 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
nishamartin@... writes:
It's thru another yahoo group. Is it okay to post that here? Some
lists look at that as spam.
\\\\\\\\\

Go ahead.

Anything good for unschoolers is good to share.

Sandra


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pam sorooshian

On Sep 24, 2004, at 5:35 PM, Nisha wrote:

> It's thru another yahoo group. Is it okay to post that here? Some
> lists look at that as spam.
> Nisha

It is information - s'okay!

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