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In a message dated 8/18/2004 10:36:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
We rented Kill Bill 2 a couple of days later and she enjoyed that one a lot
more. It still contained some cool martial arts/fight scenes, but didn't
have half of the bloodiness that Volume 1 did.

Beth
I'm really behind again (I should have known better than to move away from
the computer for an hour!) but here's my 3 cents worth.
I have really become interested in Jackie Chan movies. The fight scenes
(which ususally involve him trying to get away rather than beat everyone up) are
beautifully choreographed. It's kinda like watching a ballet, although with
fists. LOL The latest one I've seen is called The Accidental Spy and there is a
long scene where he is fighting off about 20 bad guys, while running through the
streets of Istanbul.
NAKED.
There is no frontal nudity, but lots of Tushie shots!! The scene is about 4
minutes long and it was amazing to me.
No blood, no guts, but his bum? All glory.
Elissa Jill

Life's challenges are not supposed to paralyze you;
They're supposed to help you discover who you are.
~Bernice Johnson Reagon


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Robyn Coburn

<<<I have really become interested in Jackie Chan movies. The fight scenes
(which ususally involve him trying to get away rather than beat everyone up)
are beautifully choreographed. It's kinda like watching a ballet, although
with fists.>>>

If you get the HBO stable of channels, keep a look out for a documentary
titled "Jackie Chan: My Stunts" in which he talks about, well, his stunts.
There is a lot of behind the scenes stuff both on his sets and at his
workshop/dojo where his whole team trains and he works out his creative
planning. Lots about his philosophy about entertainment and humor, and other
stuff of immense interest to me because I am writing a Martial Arts Action
script at the moment. He is a in hero Hong Kong.

It is interesting to compare him and Bruce Lee, the documentary of whose
movie work/philosophy/life is titled, "Bruce Lee: A Warrior's Journey".

When you see J.C.'s team doing those spinning horizontally in the air stunts
you know it is fully them and their muscles - not wires. He can run up walls
without wires too.

Robyn L. Coburn

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Julie

*** If you get the HBO stable of channels, keep a look out for a documentary
titled "Jackie Chan: My Stunts" in which he talks about, well, his stunts.
There is a lot of behind the scenes stuff both on his sets and at his
workshop/dojo where his whole team trains and he works out his creative
planning. ***

I hope it makes it over here (Australia). My kids LOVE Jackie Chan, nearly
as much as my dh. <g>


***Lots about his philosophy about entertainment and humor, and other stuff
of immense interest to me because I am writing a Martial Arts Action script
at the moment. He is a in hero Hong Kong.***

How cool Robyn!!! My dh loves martial arts movies, he must have seen nearly
all of them. Even the really bad ones. I used to try to hide the TV guide
from him because the thought of having to sit through another cheesy B
grade martial arts movie was all too much for me. Nine years later I find
myself jumping for joy when a new Jet Li movie comes out and I sit through
Bruce Lee movies for the awesome fight scenes and giggle over the awful
dubbing which has old Chinese men talking like American gangsters. And don't
get me started on Kill Bill. Mark's idea of heaven--martial arts Tarantino
style.

Julie

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In a message dated 8/20/04 11:18:50 PM, mjsolich@... writes:

<< Nine years later I find
myself jumping for joy when a new Jet Li movie comes out and I sit through
Bruce Lee movies for the awesome fight scenes and giggle over the awful
dubbing which has old Chinese men talking like American gangsters. >>

If anyone knows what movie this is, we really want to find it.

Years ago there was a Saturday afternoon TV presentation of martial arts
movies called "Just for Kicks Theatre" and one movie we saw was set in the old
American west, but not made there, except (I think) for a scene of one of the
actors sitting on the rim of the Grand Canyon. And so like Power Ranger's
action sequences, the flora would be all very foreign willowy stuff we don't have
here, and trees I've never seen.

They had built for their sets two wild-west bars and a log cabin. The log
cabin looked great from the outside. Big porch, nice roof, good job. Like
they learned about log cabins watching Bonanza. On the inside they had it
furnished like the 1950's, like they learned about American houses watching Leave
it to Beaver. Not lots of furniture, just a stuffed living room chair, a
little table and an electric lamp, I think. I'd really like to see it again
because that day I was just in shock.

One of the bars had its name on the wall in rope, nailed into "Saloon" maybe
or some word that looked good in cursive. The other one had river rocks
glued to the wooden wall. I don't know what they were to have had, in Arizona
in 1870 or whenever, that would have glued one-pound rocks to vertical wood. I
need to see it again!

One of the lines in the dubbed dialog was "I'm sleeping with my grandfather."
It's an idiom they might've avoided. The question was "Where have you been
staying?" I think. It's been so long.

Oh--the log cabin, from the inside, besides the furniture with the flat wall
behind it (forgot that, there was an inside wall which is no crime by itself,
but I think it was drywall with wallpaper, which still is feasible but way
unlikely), when they turned and the camera was toward the outside wall, they had
not chinked the logs. You could see daylight through al the spaces between
logs.

Where logs are plentiful and people have some skill with an axe and they have
time, log cabins are build with the wood touching, with the top log grooved
to fit over the roundness of the log below. But out here where logs are NOT so
plentiful, it wasn't too unusual to go for height, and fill in the cracks
with clay. There are still barns around New Mexico built that way (little sheds,
more like, abandoned here and there along little state roads).

But these guys didn't know that, so their logs had no fill. So their big
nice house was constructed more like a picnic shelter in a national park.

If that's familiar to anyone, I'd love to just buy a copy. It's possibly
only on real-big movie, and not on video or DVD, I suppose. Maybe I could
inquire at the local TV station, which might've owned a copy and still, maybe.
That was in the early 80's, I think, that we saw it and it was probably 60's or
70's itself.

Sandra