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In a message dated 8/3/04 5:59:45 AM, Wishbone@... writes:

<< Jerry Kosinski's The Painted Bird will take you inside and shake you up
like nothing else. >>

Of all the books I've ever read that I wished I hadn't, that's top of the
list.

I've always preferred non-fiction since I can remember, definitely from
fourth grade when I became a chain reader, and one of my favorite books when I was
seven was a paperback book of science projects. My dad built me a periscope
with two paper quart milk cartons and two little mirrors and masking tape that
I kept for YEARS.

I own thousands of books, and of those not over 100 are novels, I think.
Maybe not over 50.

I don't begin to feel guilty.

But when I like fiction I like it because it "has ideas" (Vonnegut), or
historical details (Austin, Dickens), or something.

I never get brain freeze from ice cream (my husband and all my kids do) but I
get brain freeze from modern fiction.

My husband like fantasy novels and space stuff and though I see why, I can't
get into it much.

Sandra

Kelly Muzyczka

>But when I like fiction I like it because it "has ideas" (Vonnegut), or
>historical details (Austin, Dickens), or something.


Have you read any Harlan Ellison? If you like Vonnegut, you might like
Ellison. Freaky guy! And who I always suggest to those who prefer "lit
fic" or claim there isn't any real literature in SF. (And I know you
didn't do that.)

Kelly

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In a message dated 8/3/04 10:28:02 AM, mina@... writes:

<< Have you read any Harlan Ellison? >>

No.
I called Keith and he hadn't either. We looked at the website.

I think he's spoken at Bubonicon in Albuquerque sometimes (friends of mine
were involved in that from the 70's, and Kirby goes now to help run the anime
room).

Sandra

Dawn Adams

<< Jerry Kosinski's The Painted Bird will take you inside and shake you up
like nothing else. >>

Of all the books I've ever read that I wished I hadn't, that's top of the
list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You didn't like it or it was so disturbing? I'm still not sure how I feel about it at times as there are some pretty disturbing things from it that have stuck with me.

I've always preferred non-fiction since I can remember, definitely from
fourth grade when I became a chain reader, and one of my favorite books when I was
seven was a paperback book of science projects. My dad built me a periscope
with two paper quart milk cartons and two little mirrors and masking tape that
I kept for YEARS.

I own thousands of books, and of those not over 100 are novels, I think.
Maybe not over 50.

I don't begin to feel guilty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Definately shouldn't. What bothered me about those people who pooh-poohed fiction was their attitude I guess. But I guess my quote was a little self righteous too. :)

But when I like fiction I like it because it "has ideas" (Vonnegut), or
historical details (Austin, Dickens), or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You'd sooo like Rohinton Mistry's "A Fine Balance"


My husband like fantasy novels and space stuff and though I see why, I can't
get into it much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I love that stuff as well. But historical fiction and non-fiction have lately beaten my fiction interests into the ground.

Dawn (in NS)






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In a message dated 8/3/2004 12:58:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Wishbone@... writes:
>>But when I like fiction I like it because it "has ideas" (Vonnegut), or
historical details (Austin, Dickens), or something. <<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Me too. I really liked "Clan of the Cave Bear." And another (shoot, can't
remember the author) called "Stonehenge." It was REALLY good...sort of took
Stonehenge and built a story about how it was erected.

I liked Cold Mountain. I have "read" (book on tape) all the Ken Follet
novels our library has (lots of reseach, historical stuff, though the sex can get a
little over the top...hard when there's kids in the car!). And I've "read"
everything written by Pat Conroy (very few novels, mostly autobiographical, he
takes years and years to come out with each new one, takes his time.) But
that's about it as far as modern stuff. I've tried to listen to some of the more
"romantic stuff" but can't stand it, and I hate cookie cutter mysteries (one
written right after another....blech).

I'd love suggestions! Especially for books on tape. They don't have to be
"family" books, I just don't like the really scary nightmarish stuff.

Nancy B.


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mamaaj2000

--- In [email protected], CelticFrau@a... wrote:

> I'd love suggestions! Especially for books on tape. They don't
have to be
> "family" books, I just don't like the really scary nightmarish
stuff.

Has anyone used http://www.booksontape.com/index.cfm (rentals like
Netflix) or anything similar? The unabridged b.o.t. are expensive...

--aj

Agymnasticchic

My daughter (13) really enjoys the "Alphabet Mystery" series, you know "A is
for Alibi" by Sue Grafton. Not kiddie books but certainly not raunchy or
scary.

Julie S.
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> --- In [email protected], CelticFrau@a... wrote:
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> > I'd love suggestions! Especially for books on tape. They don't
> have to be
> > "family" books, I just don't like the really scary nightmarish
> stuff.
>
> Has anyone used http://www.booksontape.com/index.cfm (rentals like
> Netflix) or anything similar? The unabridged b.o.t. are expensive...
>
> --aj
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In a message dated 8/3/2004 12:53:04 PM Central Standard Time,
mamaaj2000@... writes:

> I'd love suggestions! Especially for books on tape. They don't
have to be
> "family" books, I just don't like the really scary nightmarish
stuff.

Has anyone used http://www.booksontape.com/index.cfm (rentals like
Netflix) or anything similar? The unabridged b.o.t. are expensive...

--aj




~~~
If you have Cracker Barrel restaurant near you, they have buy-and-return BOA
in their stores. You buy the cd or tape, and then you can return it any
time to any Cracker Barrel for a refund minus $3.50 per week (it just went up 50
cents). The books rotate in and out of the various Cracker Barrel's, so you
never know what you're going to get. We use it whenever we're travelling.
We just got through listening to "Holes" on a trip to Memphis.

They don't usually have a huge selection of kids stuff--Hardy Boys and Nancy
Drew and Lemony Snicket. The adult books are usually the latest
bestsellers, though I can't listen to most of them because I'm usually with my son. I
wouldn't rely on Cracker Barrel to get all my listening done, but it's good
for travelling and they have clean restrooms.

Karen


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In a message dated 8/3/2004 10:58:32 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
Wishbone@... writes:
You didn't like it or it was so disturbing?
==========

One and the same.
I felt ambushed and abused.
Sure, I could've put the book down, but it had been highly recommended by
someone I trusted (and forever after was wary of, when book or movie
recommendations were concerned).

Ugly pictures in my head I didn't want.


Sandra


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Kathy

I've actually read quite a few exceptional fiction works lately,
including all of Tracy Chevalier's novels (her Girl with the Pearl
Earring was made into a movie). Ursula Hegi's Stones from the River
was also an excellent read and explored a number of interesting
themes that were relevant to my own experience. I'm an avid reader
of both fiction and non-fiction, but I'd have to say my preference is
for literary fiction.

Kathy



--- In [email protected], CelticFrau@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/3/2004 12:58:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Wishbone@s... writes:
> >>But when I like fiction I like it because it "has ideas"
(Vonnegut), or
> historical details (Austin, Dickens), or something. <<
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Me too. I really liked "Clan of the Cave Bear." And another
(shoot, can't
> remember the author) called "Stonehenge." It was REALLY
good...sort of took
> Stonehenge and built a story about how it was erected.
>
> I liked Cold Mountain. I have "read" (book on tape) all the Ken
Follet
> novels our library has (lots of reseach, historical stuff, though
the sex can get a
> little over the top...hard when there's kids in the car!). And
I've "read"
> everything written by Pat Conroy (very few novels, mostly
autobiographical, he
> takes years and years to come out with each new one, takes his
time.) But
> that's about it as far as modern stuff. I've tried to listen to
some of the more
> "romantic stuff" but can't stand it, and I hate cookie cutter
mysteries (one
> written right after another....blech).
>
> I'd love suggestions! Especially for books on tape. They don't
have to be
> "family" books, I just don't like the really scary nightmarish
stuff.
>
> Nancy B.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

pam sorooshian

On Aug 3, 2004, at 5:31 PM, tuckervill2@... wrote:

> Has anyone used http://www.booksontape.com/index.cfm (rentals like
> Netflix) or anything similar? The unabridged b.o.t. are expensive...
>

I belong to audible.com. I listen to two books every month - download
them to the special little mp3 player that I got free with my
membership.

-pam

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through information, networking and public relations.

TreeGoddess

On Aug 3, 2004, at 1:17 PM, CelticFrau@... wrote:

> [I really liked "Clan of the Cave Bear."]

Me too, Nancy! I really love Jean Auel's Earth's Children series, but
that 5th (most recent) book, Shelters of Stone, IMO wasn't very good.
It almost seemed like a new author tried to pick up the story and write
it. It just felt very "off" to me.

> [I have "read" (book on tape) all the Ken Follet novels our library
> has]

If you like Ken Follet (I love The Man from St. Petersburg and Eye of
the Needle!) then pick up some Jack Higgins books. I like The Eagle
Has Landed, The Eagle Has Flown, Eye of the Storm, Thunder Point, etc.
Look up the books at Amazon and see if they sound interesting. :)
-Tracy-