What have you learned "other ways"?
[email protected]
What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?
Me:
sewing (with a pattern, later figured out how to sew without, by
experimentation)
calligraphy (have in the past made small amounts of money)
guitar
recorder (though I did take a couple of college classes in which I played
recorder, but I knew how when I got there)
more, but Marty needs the computer. <g>
Me:
sewing (with a pattern, later figured out how to sew without, by
experimentation)
calligraphy (have in the past made small amounts of money)
guitar
recorder (though I did take a couple of college classes in which I played
recorder, but I knew how when I got there)
more, but Marty needs the computer. <g>
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/2004 3:11:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?<<<<
Dog training. First books, then through the Greater Columbia Obedience
Club.I started training my first dog when I was 11. I started teaching classes
when I was 16. When I lived in California and Germany, I got paid. When I teach
for the club, I volunteer.
Dog grooming. I was living in Germany, and one of the women asked whether I
knew of a good groomer that spoke some english. I went home and told Ben that
I though *I* should start grooming. I did. Books and meeting
handlers/breeders and picking their brains and trial and error. Then before I left Germany, I
trained someone to take over my clientele. That happened again when I left
St Louis, and again when I sold my mobile business here in Columbia five years
ago. I've netted as much as $50,000/year grooming. Yes, you can make a
living!
Gardening. If you had told me 20 years ago that I would have been a
gardener, I would have laughed in your face! <g> No money there, but I grow many of
our vegetables. fruits, and all our herbs and flowers. I gave a
butterfly/hummingbird gardening class for our homeschool group the first year. I'm really
big on trial and error there! <BWG>
Ceramic tiling. Kathryn's offered to pay me! <G> But I have done other
people's bathrooms and kitchens as well as my own. Could I make a living?
Possibly. Same with wallpapering.
Cooking. I've sold desserts to restaurants. Not really a living, but extra
$$$.
More food: we (my family---dad and brother) opened a provincial french
restaurant. I managed the front (waitstaff, bar, and dining room). Just dining out
a lot, taking notes, working as a waitressand hostessing at other
restaurants, and trying to treat the staff as I would like to have been treated.
Horses. I've taught lessons, ridden race horses, and opened a tack shop.
Dogs, again----I'm a junior showmanship judge. One of the girls I used to
work with is a professional handler now. She's awesome.
And the conference. Just throw me in, and I'll swim.
How to be a great mom! <G> Thanks to the wonderful moms here and on the
boards.
Can I toss something else out there?
Ben and I had a discusion last week about *why* I'm so fearless when it
comes to trying new things. He's rather timid, but trying to gain some insight
into why.
Our conclusion (based entirely on our own personal histories) is that you're
able to BE fearless when you are absolutely sure you have a fall-back
position----a safety net, so to speak.
My father was incredibly encouraging. And even if I failed, he would cover
my butt. Not just big things---and not just little things. I always knew that I
had a home to crawl back to or a money source when I was broke. He was
ALWAYS there. Always.
Ben's family figures that, if you are an adult, you should just suck it up
and fix the problem----they won't help. You made your bed; go lie in it. Better
safe than sorry.
Quick example: We made a bad business decision (Ben tried to run a
not-for-profit sports festival. Not-for-profit is JUST THAT!). Major financial
set-back. Bankruptcy court. Ben asked his family for some money to buy groceries and
to pay for electricity----his father said, "Go get a job. You shouldn't have
tried something so stupid. You're an adult. Act like it."
Needless to say, we've never asked him for money since.
My father, on the other hand, kept slipping me $100 bills. Offered to buy
the boys clothes. Paid our mortgage, more than once. WAS Santa Claus that
Christmas.
I have no fears to try different things because I KNOW that, if I fail, I
won't become a bag lady. I've always had a life-line, a safety-net. I always
felt that I could TRY anything. And I have! <g>
Small successes as a child---and small failures, with that life-line----have
taught me that I can do anything. (Daddy always told me THAT too!) I think
that, if our children know that we are their safety-nets should anything go
bad, they will become more eager to attempt what others think is impossible!
~Kelly
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SandraDodd@... writes:
What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?<<<<
Dog training. First books, then through the Greater Columbia Obedience
Club.I started training my first dog when I was 11. I started teaching classes
when I was 16. When I lived in California and Germany, I got paid. When I teach
for the club, I volunteer.
Dog grooming. I was living in Germany, and one of the women asked whether I
knew of a good groomer that spoke some english. I went home and told Ben that
I though *I* should start grooming. I did. Books and meeting
handlers/breeders and picking their brains and trial and error. Then before I left Germany, I
trained someone to take over my clientele. That happened again when I left
St Louis, and again when I sold my mobile business here in Columbia five years
ago. I've netted as much as $50,000/year grooming. Yes, you can make a
living!
Gardening. If you had told me 20 years ago that I would have been a
gardener, I would have laughed in your face! <g> No money there, but I grow many of
our vegetables. fruits, and all our herbs and flowers. I gave a
butterfly/hummingbird gardening class for our homeschool group the first year. I'm really
big on trial and error there! <BWG>
Ceramic tiling. Kathryn's offered to pay me! <G> But I have done other
people's bathrooms and kitchens as well as my own. Could I make a living?
Possibly. Same with wallpapering.
Cooking. I've sold desserts to restaurants. Not really a living, but extra
$$$.
More food: we (my family---dad and brother) opened a provincial french
restaurant. I managed the front (waitstaff, bar, and dining room). Just dining out
a lot, taking notes, working as a waitressand hostessing at other
restaurants, and trying to treat the staff as I would like to have been treated.
Horses. I've taught lessons, ridden race horses, and opened a tack shop.
Dogs, again----I'm a junior showmanship judge. One of the girls I used to
work with is a professional handler now. She's awesome.
And the conference. Just throw me in, and I'll swim.
How to be a great mom! <G> Thanks to the wonderful moms here and on the
boards.
Can I toss something else out there?
Ben and I had a discusion last week about *why* I'm so fearless when it
comes to trying new things. He's rather timid, but trying to gain some insight
into why.
Our conclusion (based entirely on our own personal histories) is that you're
able to BE fearless when you are absolutely sure you have a fall-back
position----a safety net, so to speak.
My father was incredibly encouraging. And even if I failed, he would cover
my butt. Not just big things---and not just little things. I always knew that I
had a home to crawl back to or a money source when I was broke. He was
ALWAYS there. Always.
Ben's family figures that, if you are an adult, you should just suck it up
and fix the problem----they won't help. You made your bed; go lie in it. Better
safe than sorry.
Quick example: We made a bad business decision (Ben tried to run a
not-for-profit sports festival. Not-for-profit is JUST THAT!). Major financial
set-back. Bankruptcy court. Ben asked his family for some money to buy groceries and
to pay for electricity----his father said, "Go get a job. You shouldn't have
tried something so stupid. You're an adult. Act like it."
Needless to say, we've never asked him for money since.
My father, on the other hand, kept slipping me $100 bills. Offered to buy
the boys clothes. Paid our mortgage, more than once. WAS Santa Claus that
Christmas.
I have no fears to try different things because I KNOW that, if I fail, I
won't become a bag lady. I've always had a life-line, a safety-net. I always
felt that I could TRY anything. And I have! <g>
Small successes as a child---and small failures, with that life-line----have
taught me that I can do anything. (Daddy always told me THAT too!) I think
that, if our children know that we are their safety-nets should anything go
bad, they will become more eager to attempt what others think is impossible!
~Kelly
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the_clevengers
> What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?- How to read (i was fortunate enough to do that on my own well
before the schools got ahold of me)
- How to write novels, short stories, non-fiction articles
- How to do triathlons
- How to play guitar
- How to skydive (well, I did take a class to learn the bits about
opening the parachute and emergency procedures, but the actual
learning how to move your body in 3-D space with 120 mph of wind, no
one can teach you that, you just have to figure it out.)
- How to program a computer in C++, how to create websites
- Photography (with a caveat, because I did end up taking lots of
college photography classes, but I had been a photographer for almost
10 years by that point)
- How to cook, and I'm definitely still learning that one
- Gardening, by the trial-and-error method
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
pam sorooshian
to create a nonprofit organization
to run an email list
to cook
to build a website
to take good photos
to appreciate opera
a LOT about horses
a lot about soccer
nutrition
to make an iMovie
a bunch about some Shakespeare plays
to run an email list
to cook
to build a website
to take good photos
to appreciate opera
a LOT about horses
a lot about soccer
nutrition
to make an iMovie
a bunch about some Shakespeare plays
the_clevengers
--- In [email protected], kbcdlovejo@a... wrote:
discouraging natural fearlessness, but I also think that a whole lot
of it is just inherent personality. My two kids are like night and
day in this regard. One total risk-taker, one very cautious kid. Both
have had respectful parenting and unschooling from the start.
As for me, my parents weren't particularly supportive of most of my
endeavors, but I'm a whole lot like my daughter - fearless and bull-
headed. When my parents wouldn't support what I was doing, I left.
When I ran out of money, I lived on the streets. I don't think it had
all that much to do with what my parents did or didn't do, more or
less what I was born with.
As far as encouraging or discouraging goes, I think that can
definitely make a difference with kids who are by nature more
cautious. I think if my son ends up taking risks it will most likely
be because we have stood by him while he tried the waters, didn't
force him to do things he didn't want to do, but gently encouraged
him. For instance, he didn't want to go in water until he was almost
five. I think if we had pushed something like swimming lessons on
him, we could've really freaked him out about it and had him
associating water with panic. I've worked with adults who have that
water-panic connection and it's hard to get past. But because we let
him come to it in his own time and his own way, he was able to do it
cautiously enough to suit him. Supporting the non-risk taker allows
them to find their way to being more adventurous. Of course, my
daughter was flinging herself into the deep end of swimming pools
long before she could swim. For her, support means finding ways for
her to do things safely that she would go ahead and do anyways.
for them and that it will help them feel safe in venturing wherever
they need to go.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
> Ben and I had a discusion last week about *why* I'm so fearlesswhen it
> comes to trying new things. He's rather timid, but trying to gainsome insight
> into why.that you're
>
> Our conclusion (based entirely on our own personal histories) is
> able to BE fearless when you are absolutely sure you have a fall-back
> position----a safety net, so to speak.I'm sure parenting has something to do with encouraging or
discouraging natural fearlessness, but I also think that a whole lot
of it is just inherent personality. My two kids are like night and
day in this regard. One total risk-taker, one very cautious kid. Both
have had respectful parenting and unschooling from the start.
As for me, my parents weren't particularly supportive of most of my
endeavors, but I'm a whole lot like my daughter - fearless and bull-
headed. When my parents wouldn't support what I was doing, I left.
When I ran out of money, I lived on the streets. I don't think it had
all that much to do with what my parents did or didn't do, more or
less what I was born with.
As far as encouraging or discouraging goes, I think that can
definitely make a difference with kids who are by nature more
cautious. I think if my son ends up taking risks it will most likely
be because we have stood by him while he tried the waters, didn't
force him to do things he didn't want to do, but gently encouraged
him. For instance, he didn't want to go in water until he was almost
five. I think if we had pushed something like swimming lessons on
him, we could've really freaked him out about it and had him
associating water with panic. I've worked with adults who have that
water-panic connection and it's hard to get past. But because we let
him come to it in his own time and his own way, he was able to do it
cautiously enough to suit him. Supporting the non-risk taker allows
them to find their way to being more adventurous. Of course, my
daughter was flinging herself into the deep end of swimming pools
long before she could swim. For her, support means finding ways for
her to do things safely that she would go ahead and do anyways.
> My father was incredibly encouraging. And even if I failed, hewould cover
> my butt. Not just big things---and not just little things. I alwaysknew that I
> had a home to crawl back to or a money source when I was broke. Hewas
> ALWAYS there. Always.That's really cool. I hope my kids always know that we will be there
for them and that it will help them feel safe in venturing wherever
they need to go.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
pam sorooshian
On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:14 PM, the_clevengers wrote:
I always have an easy time making major changes, major decisions -
taking risks - because I somehow have this STRONG sense that I can
always just start over if I blow it. That either runs in my family,
temperamentally, or I learned it from seeing my grandparents make major
major changes in their lives in their 40's and again in their 60's and
my mother change careers at 40 and my uncle change careers at 50 and
both of my sisters start up whole new careers in their 40's. In my
family, nobody has EVER finally decided what they're going to be when
they grow up. It is always something that can change.
Also - I have an "acceptance" that there are risks and costs to every
decision - and if you don't just accept the risks and costs and take
action anyway, you're stuck. I fear being "stuck" far more than I fear
failure.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
>> able to BE fearless when you are absolutely sure you have a fall-Or if you have nothing to lose.
> back
>> position----a safety net, so to speak.
I always have an easy time making major changes, major decisions -
taking risks - because I somehow have this STRONG sense that I can
always just start over if I blow it. That either runs in my family,
temperamentally, or I learned it from seeing my grandparents make major
major changes in their lives in their 40's and again in their 60's and
my mother change careers at 40 and my uncle change careers at 50 and
both of my sisters start up whole new careers in their 40's. In my
family, nobody has EVER finally decided what they're going to be when
they grow up. It is always something that can change.
Also - I have an "acceptance" that there are risks and costs to every
decision - and if you don't just accept the risks and costs and take
action anyway, you're stuck. I fear being "stuck" far more than I fear
failure.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
marji
At 16:02 6/8/04, you wrote:
How to use a computer.
How to use the Internet.
How to be a mom.
How to be true to myself.
How to play the guitar.
How to tune up an engine.
How to drive a standard transmission car.
How to care for a cat.
How to balance a checkbook.
How to think.
How to play poker.
How to replace rotting boards in a deck.
How to tile a bathroom.
How to cook.
There's lots more things but I can't think of them right now.
Marji
<http://www.gaiawolf.org/>GaiaWolf ~ Music for the Planet
Take the "red pill" to learn the truth about
<http://www.bancruelfarms.org/meatrix/>the Meatrix
"The animals of this world exist for their own reasons. They were not made
for humans any more than blacks were made for whites, or women created for
men." ~ Alice Walker
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> > What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?How to do medical transcription.
How to use a computer.
How to use the Internet.
How to be a mom.
How to be true to myself.
How to play the guitar.
How to tune up an engine.
How to drive a standard transmission car.
How to care for a cat.
How to balance a checkbook.
How to think.
How to play poker.
How to replace rotting boards in a deck.
How to tile a bathroom.
How to cook.
There's lots more things but I can't think of them right now.
Marji
<http://www.gaiawolf.org/>GaiaWolf ~ Music for the Planet
Take the "red pill" to learn the truth about
<http://www.bancruelfarms.org/meatrix/>the Meatrix
"The animals of this world exist for their own reasons. They were not made
for humans any more than blacks were made for whites, or women created for
men." ~ Alice Walker
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Julie Bogart
> > > What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?Biggest self-taught skill: writing
how to run a household
how to budget
how to pay taxes
how to cook
how to make yogurt
how to bake bread from scratch
how to speak Arabic dialect
how to live in a foreign culture
art appreciation
poetry appreciation
reading short stories and writing them
how to draw
lots about Van Gogh
lots about Jane Austen
how to paint a room
how to hang pictures
how to caulk a bathroom
how to write for publication
how to edit/ghostwrite for hire
breastfeeding and natural childbirth at home
knitting
quilting
I created a business from scratch, learned how to run it, market it, speak at conferences,
pay taxes and use Internet software
I'm currently learning New Testament Greek on my own
areas of interest I've grown in:
theology
homeschool/unschool
raising teens
caring for pets
Shakespeare
poetry
movies
gardening
home maintenance
teaching writing
The list could go on and in fact, should. I want to write these up and share them with my
kids. Becoming an adult has been the fastest path to personal growth and education - not
school.
Julie B
Kelly Lenhart
> What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?I'd say I learned a lot about writing on my own, with a group of writers.
I've learned almost everything I know about computers on my own.
I've learned to homemake soap, from scratch, from reading. I'm pretty proud
of that one.
Kelly
Have a Nice Day!
> > > What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?Good question! There is so much, I'm not sure I can remember it all!!
Computer stuff for sure
Candlemaking
Soapmaking (well, mostly just the kits)
dog training
pet care for specific pets
Judaism
Lobbying for new legislation
How to talk to legislators
How to write legislation
Martial Arts (Choi Kwang Do)
How to cook
Balance a checkbook
Create a budget
Plan for retirement and adjust for inflation
Fill out and pay taxes
Use a credit card
Shop online
Drive a moving truck while towing a car
Change the oil in the car
Change a flat tire
Rotate tires
Change spark plugs
Unstick the carburater.
How to be happy in the moment
How to make and use a solar oven (well thats an ongoing project LOL).
How to cook/bake on a woodstove
What renewable energy is, and how we can use it in our home to cut costs
I'm still planning on learning Hebrew, and to learn how to play guitar
I want to learn how to care for horses, and maybe have a few someday.
I'm sure there is much more!
Kristen
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J. Stauffer
How to be a listening parent
Sewing
knitting
cooking
how to clean a house
ironing
crocheting
spirituality (in spite of school)
gardening
making soap
making wine
raising goats
making cheese
Julie S.--off the top of my head
Sewing
knitting
cooking
how to clean a house
ironing
crocheting
spirituality (in spite of school)
gardening
making soap
making wine
raising goats
making cheese
Julie S.--off the top of my head
----- Original Message -----
From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:09 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] What have you learned "other ways"?
> What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?
>
> Me:
>
> sewing (with a pattern, later figured out how to sew without, by
> experimentation)
>
> calligraphy (have in the past made small amounts of money)
>
> guitar
>
> recorder (though I did take a couple of college classes in which I played
> recorder, but I knew how when I got there)
>
> more, but Marty needs the computer. <g>
>
>
>
>
>
> "List Posting Policies" are provided in the files area of this group.
>
> Visit the Unschooling website and message boards:
http://www.unschooling.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/2004 3:11:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
SandraDodd@... writes:
> What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ME:
>
> Mothering
> Camping
> Fishing
> Cooking (there's always room for more)
> Picture Taking
> Skating, Rollerblading
> Swimming
> Homemaking (I didn't do home ec., I was in shop)
> And gosh the list could go for ever, I wonder now
>
> WHY WAS I EVER IN SCHOOL?
>
> Pamela
J. Stauffer
How to build a shed
How to raise a rabbit
How to raise a chicken
How to make your own dog food
herbal medicine
Julie S.
How to raise a rabbit
How to raise a chicken
How to make your own dog food
herbal medicine
Julie S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie Bogart" <julie@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:27 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: What have you learned "other ways"?
>
> > > > What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?
>
> Biggest self-taught skill: writing
>
> how to run a household
> how to budget
> how to pay taxes
> how to cook
> how to make yogurt
> how to bake bread from scratch
> how to speak Arabic dialect
> how to live in a foreign culture
>
> art appreciation
> poetry appreciation
> reading short stories and writing them
> how to draw
>
> lots about Van Gogh
> lots about Jane Austen
>
> how to paint a room
> how to hang pictures
> how to caulk a bathroom
>
> how to write for publication
> how to edit/ghostwrite for hire
>
> breastfeeding and natural childbirth at home
> knitting
> quilting
>
> I created a business from scratch, learned how to run it, market it, speak
at conferences,
> pay taxes and use Internet software
>
> I'm currently learning New Testament Greek on my own
>
> areas of interest I've grown in:
> theology
> homeschool/unschool
> raising teens
> caring for pets
> Shakespeare
> poetry
> movies
> gardening
> home maintenance
> teaching writing
>
> The list could go on and in fact, should. I want to write these up and
share them with my
> kids. Becoming an adult has been the fastest path to personal growth and
education - not
> school.
>
> Julie B
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "List Posting Policies" are provided in the files area of this group.
>
> Visit the Unschooling website and message boards:
http://www.unschooling.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/2004 3:11:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?
After 40 hours of instruction, required for the obtaining the license, I have
learned to sell real estate ..... 6 million dollars worth of real estate a
year. Never in a zillion years did I ever think I could do something like that,
but I just "did it". (Think NIKE).
I remember coming out of high school and being so disillusioned with the
whole experience that I never wanted to go to college - so I didn't. Then I
wondered what kind of career I'd end up with.
Dh learned how to build houses and develop raw land. He is now a real estate
developer and general contractor.
We've both learned many, many other things... but since those are the ones
that put food on the table and bring us both a great deal of personal
satisfaction to boot, we rank them rather highly.
Linda
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SandraDodd@... writes:
What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?
After 40 hours of instruction, required for the obtaining the license, I have
learned to sell real estate ..... 6 million dollars worth of real estate a
year. Never in a zillion years did I ever think I could do something like that,
but I just "did it". (Think NIKE).
I remember coming out of high school and being so disillusioned with the
whole experience that I never wanted to go to college - so I didn't. Then I
wondered what kind of career I'd end up with.
Dh learned how to build houses and develop raw land. He is now a real estate
developer and general contractor.
We've both learned many, many other things... but since those are the ones
that put food on the table and bring us both a great deal of personal
satisfaction to boot, we rank them rather highly.
Linda
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arcarpenter2003
--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
How to play role-playing games and do the math involved.
How to write role-playing games (still working on the math involved --
it's not the computation that's tricky, but knowing when to require
what formula).
How to write fiction.
How and when to keep a journal that's actually helpful.
How to create a web site.
How to sing, and sometimes harmonize.
How to give birth and breastfeed.
How to parent peacefully.
How to get freelance work and pay estimated taxes on said work.
How to run a household and manage finances.
How to cook both fancy dishes and everyday dinners that people like.
How to talk to people of various cultures and classes.
How to start a campfire.
How to schedule travel and pack a family for a trip.
How to deal with anger in a productive and healthy way.
How to be married.
How to be a friend.
How to relax and be present.
How to shop at Goodwill.
How to do improvisational acting.
How to meditate.
Quite a bit about trains, airplanes, cars and motorcycles.
Some Native American stories and healing arts.
An interfaith perspective, while continually adding in bits and pieces
about Hinduism, Buddhism, Native American shamanism, and more.
A few phrases in Polish, and a lot of Polish history.
Quite a bit about the concept of time as it relates to quantum theory,
relativity theory, and human memory.
A smattering of physics here and there (couldn't grasp it in school,
really enjoy it now).
Some anthropology.
The various types of waterbeds available for sale.
Still going to learn:
how to ride a motorcycle
how to gather and store wild foods
Peace,
Amy
> What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?How to identify various plants, birds, and Pokemon.
How to play role-playing games and do the math involved.
How to write role-playing games (still working on the math involved --
it's not the computation that's tricky, but knowing when to require
what formula).
How to write fiction.
How and when to keep a journal that's actually helpful.
How to create a web site.
How to sing, and sometimes harmonize.
How to give birth and breastfeed.
How to parent peacefully.
How to get freelance work and pay estimated taxes on said work.
How to run a household and manage finances.
How to cook both fancy dishes and everyday dinners that people like.
How to talk to people of various cultures and classes.
How to start a campfire.
How to schedule travel and pack a family for a trip.
How to deal with anger in a productive and healthy way.
How to be married.
How to be a friend.
How to relax and be present.
How to shop at Goodwill.
How to do improvisational acting.
How to meditate.
Quite a bit about trains, airplanes, cars and motorcycles.
Some Native American stories and healing arts.
An interfaith perspective, while continually adding in bits and pieces
about Hinduism, Buddhism, Native American shamanism, and more.
A few phrases in Polish, and a lot of Polish history.
Quite a bit about the concept of time as it relates to quantum theory,
relativity theory, and human memory.
A smattering of physics here and there (couldn't grasp it in school,
really enjoy it now).
Some anthropology.
The various types of waterbeds available for sale.
Still going to learn:
how to ride a motorcycle
how to gather and store wild foods
Peace,
Amy
Dawn Adams
What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?
-embroidery, cross stitch
-how to draw
-an extensive knowledge of comic books, history, storylines and major writers and artists
-parenting
-how to lay baseboard and trim
-computers (okay, I'm lost these days but I knew my old 386 inside and out)
-how to draw
-most history
- politics
-it goes on and on
And I should add that not only are these learned outside of school but I don't think any of it involved classes. Laying baseboard for instance meant fooling around with a mitre box until I got it right (and I must say, it looks better than most jobs).
Dawn (in NS)
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-embroidery, cross stitch
-how to draw
-an extensive knowledge of comic books, history, storylines and major writers and artists
-parenting
-how to lay baseboard and trim
-computers (okay, I'm lost these days but I knew my old 386 inside and out)
-how to draw
-most history
- politics
-it goes on and on
And I should add that not only are these learned outside of school but I don't think any of it involved classes. Laying baseboard for instance meant fooling around with a mitre box until I got it right (and I must say, it looks better than most jobs).
Dawn (in NS)
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Sylvia Toyama
what I learned outside of school
Driving a car; changing a tire
Why planes fly & how car engines work (I actually got thru high school never understanding why airplanes stay up!)
Reading ( I learned at 4, before kindergarten)
Cooking -- over the years, I've come up with some really tasty original dishes
All I know about word processing and computers (some on the job training, but mostly just brave putzing around with 'how can I do this?')
gardening -- this is my first year and I'm so excited to have actual vegetables growing!
breastfeeding
gentler parenting
How to french-braid hair
How to cut hair
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Driving a car; changing a tire
Why planes fly & how car engines work (I actually got thru high school never understanding why airplanes stay up!)
Reading ( I learned at 4, before kindergarten)
Cooking -- over the years, I've come up with some really tasty original dishes
All I know about word processing and computers (some on the job training, but mostly just brave putzing around with 'how can I do this?')
gardening -- this is my first year and I'm so excited to have actual vegetables growing!
breastfeeding
gentler parenting
How to french-braid hair
How to cut hair
Syl
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You're right, Dawn, about history and politics being things to learn out of school. Nothing I learned in high school of history, social studies or politics was valuable to me (and I took 'honors' humanities and World Lit). I've learned so much more history -- Japanese-American Internment, American wartime activities, and present-day politics -- outside of school.
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I've learned....
Herbalism
Homeopathy
Holistic Health
Eastern Medicine, all of wich I may at some time take classes for, so that I can get licenced
Making my own oils
bath salts
Cooking and Baking
Beading
Wire wrapping
making hemp jewlery
World religions
I can add cake decorating, although I needed to learn it for my job
~Rebecca
--
You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help."
-Calvin
Herbalism
Homeopathy
Holistic Health
Eastern Medicine, all of wich I may at some time take classes for, so that I can get licenced
Making my own oils
bath salts
Cooking and Baking
Beading
Wire wrapping
making hemp jewlery
World religions
I can add cake decorating, although I needed to learn it for my job
~Rebecca
--
You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help."
-Calvin
> What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?
>
Jillian Mandala
I've learned.
How to make good food (when I got married I could not make anything but
mac&chees and now I make bread from scratch)
I'm trying to learn about photography (slowly)
Computers (I was the only one in my dorm with a pc during my 2 month
stay at college)
Lots about politics (hubby helps me with that one)
I have learned that there are some really cool religions out there (I
went to a fundamentalist high school *shudder*)
How to be me
How to be a wife and mommy
A lot about Malamutes (we have 2 well sort of they got in trouble today
so we don't know if they will be coming home again)
I learned how to play again
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writers.
I've learned almost everything I know about computers on my own.
I've learned to homemake soap, from scratch, from reading. I'm pretty
proud
of that one.
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How to make good food (when I got married I could not make anything but
mac&chees and now I make bread from scratch)
I'm trying to learn about photography (slowly)
Computers (I was the only one in my dorm with a pc during my 2 month
stay at college)
Lots about politics (hubby helps me with that one)
I have learned that there are some really cool religions out there (I
went to a fundamentalist high school *shudder*)
How to be me
How to be a wife and mommy
A lot about Malamutes (we have 2 well sort of they got in trouble today
so we don't know if they will be coming home again)
I learned how to play again
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> What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?I'd say I learned a lot about writing on my own, with a group of
writers.
I've learned almost everything I know about computers on my own.
I've learned to homemake soap, from scratch, from reading. I'm pretty
proud
of that one.
Kelly
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Wishbone@... writes:
Home remedies
Decent haircutting and french braiding
Yoga
Apologetics
Church History
Protestant and Catholic doctrine
Sewing
Costume making
Upholstery
Knitting
Spinning
Weaving
Carding
Needle Felting
Sheep Shearing (my son and I did it by ourselves this year, just looking at
pictures in a book!)
Giving shots
Animal (and kid, for that matter!) first aid
FENCING (ugh)
Sheep herding
Square Foot Gardening
Canning
Raising, Butchering and Wrapping home grown meat
Skinning animals, some tanning
Tree, track, plant, insect, and animal identifying
Police report writing :o)
Treatment Foster Care Parenting
Parenting even better than my parents did
Attachment Disorder parenting
Drawing
Commercial Apartment Cleaning
ORGANIZATION!
Menu planning
Cooking, baking, drying, pickling, preserving
Patience
Using power tools (circular saw, table saw, nail gun, etc)
Roofing (I did most of the roofing of our house)
House building, literally from the ground up with no plans
Plumbing
Scavenging and dumpster diving!
Irish Dance
Scottish (Highland) Dance
Morris Dance
Fiddle
Accordian
(tiny bit of) Mandolin
Cake decorating
Quilt making
How to move efficiently and cheaply
Map reading
Homeschooling
Unschooling
Peacemaking
Computers and Internet
Tire changing and jump starting
And homeschooling my own children has taught me so much more about math,
history, literature, art, etc, than I EVER learned in school!
Nancy B.
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Wishbone@... writes:
>>What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?<<*******************************
Home remedies
Decent haircutting and french braiding
Yoga
Apologetics
Church History
Protestant and Catholic doctrine
Sewing
Costume making
Upholstery
Knitting
Spinning
Weaving
Carding
Needle Felting
Sheep Shearing (my son and I did it by ourselves this year, just looking at
pictures in a book!)
Giving shots
Animal (and kid, for that matter!) first aid
FENCING (ugh)
Sheep herding
Square Foot Gardening
Canning
Raising, Butchering and Wrapping home grown meat
Skinning animals, some tanning
Tree, track, plant, insect, and animal identifying
Police report writing :o)
Treatment Foster Care Parenting
Parenting even better than my parents did
Attachment Disorder parenting
Drawing
Commercial Apartment Cleaning
ORGANIZATION!
Menu planning
Cooking, baking, drying, pickling, preserving
Patience
Using power tools (circular saw, table saw, nail gun, etc)
Roofing (I did most of the roofing of our house)
House building, literally from the ground up with no plans
Plumbing
Scavenging and dumpster diving!
Irish Dance
Scottish (Highland) Dance
Morris Dance
Fiddle
Accordian
(tiny bit of) Mandolin
Cake decorating
Quilt making
How to move efficiently and cheaply
Map reading
Homeschooling
Unschooling
Peacemaking
Computers and Internet
Tire changing and jump starting
And homeschooling my own children has taught me so much more about math,
history, literature, art, etc, than I EVER learned in school!
Nancy B.
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Alyce
Neat discussion. My list won't be exhaustive. lol.
I learned how to read at home.
All the math in elementary school I'd say it's safe to say I
actually learned at home. In fact, nearly everything in elementary
school. I'd spend all day in school in a whirlwind of confusion - I
never knew what was going on! So many kids, so much "noise". I
never understood what the teachers were saying. Truly, very like
charlie brown's teacher... I'd go home at the end of the day with my
homework at which point my dad would "teach" me what in the world we
had covered that day in class.
I remember intentionally getting in trouble repeatedly so I'd have
to spend recess in the library instead of outside. I preferred the
peace, quiet and books. They never caught on til my dad pointed it
out to the teacher when they called him in for a conference to
discuss my learning problems and my inability to stay out of
trouble. He apologized later for ruining my scam. hehe.
Oops... I went off on a tangent. Maybe another thread, I can tell
you what I did learn in school. lol. Not academics, that's for
sure.
Not in school, I also learned:
crochet
sewing
cooking
mothering
wife-ing
anything connected with computers
graphic design
HTML - which paid the bills for a few years.
Exept typing, pretty much everything I've ever used to earn a buck
or manage my life I learned outside of school. Even writing -
learned that from my dad as well - with some help later from my
uncle who was a writer. Still learning the writing.
Alyce
I learned how to read at home.
All the math in elementary school I'd say it's safe to say I
actually learned at home. In fact, nearly everything in elementary
school. I'd spend all day in school in a whirlwind of confusion - I
never knew what was going on! So many kids, so much "noise". I
never understood what the teachers were saying. Truly, very like
charlie brown's teacher... I'd go home at the end of the day with my
homework at which point my dad would "teach" me what in the world we
had covered that day in class.
I remember intentionally getting in trouble repeatedly so I'd have
to spend recess in the library instead of outside. I preferred the
peace, quiet and books. They never caught on til my dad pointed it
out to the teacher when they called him in for a conference to
discuss my learning problems and my inability to stay out of
trouble. He apologized later for ruining my scam. hehe.
Oops... I went off on a tangent. Maybe another thread, I can tell
you what I did learn in school. lol. Not academics, that's for
sure.
Not in school, I also learned:
crochet
sewing
cooking
mothering
wife-ing
anything connected with computers
graphic design
HTML - which paid the bills for a few years.
Exept typing, pretty much everything I've ever used to earn a buck
or manage my life I learned outside of school. Even writing -
learned that from my dad as well - with some help later from my
uncle who was a writer. Still learning the writing.
Alyce
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<What are some things you've learned entirely outside of school?>
That's a good one!
Parenting
Patience
Self confidence
Self worth
Cooking
Baking
Car repair
Photography
Gaming
Strategy
Diplomacy
How to truly LISTEN
How to think for myself
The list could probably go on for quite a while... maybe we should have a
list of things we DID learn in school that we probably shouldn't have?
Lying
Cheating
Stealing
LOL
Peace,
Sang
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That's a good one!
Parenting
Patience
Self confidence
Self worth
Cooking
Baking
Car repair
Photography
Gaming
Strategy
Diplomacy
How to truly LISTEN
How to think for myself
The list could probably go on for quite a while... maybe we should have a
list of things we DID learn in school that we probably shouldn't have?
Lying
Cheating
Stealing
LOL
Peace,
Sang
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Kelly Ferry
> What are some things you've learned entirely� Gardening co-creatively with the nature spirits
> outside of school?
>
� Make herbal tinctures, teas and poultices
� Make flower essences
� Knitting
� Weaving
� Spinning/Dyeing
� Distance cycling (top 150 mile 2-day ride)
� Raise a family
� Cook (vegetarian, french, thai, mexican, italian
rustic)
� Bake artesian breads with sourdough mother
� Canning/Preserving
� Graphic design for print publications (15 yr
magazine career in NYC w/out any schooling)
� Write creative non-fiction
� Change thermostat on my car!!! (I still grin when I
think of this one)
� Strip and refinish furniture
� Be a better, stronger more honest friend and family
member
� Co-parent
that's all i'm thinking of right now...
but things that i still want to learn?
� raising chickens
� raising goats
� making goat cheese
� medicinal herb farm and apothecary business...with
potentially workshops offered -- running a business
like that will take a LOT of learning!
� novel writing
� more about spinning and weaving
� how to sew in a straight line!
� permaculture
� build an outdoor woodfired cook stove
� build a greenhouse (we already have most of the
reclaimed windows we need to start!)
� build a pond
� alternative energy sources
� beading
� Navaho rug weaving
� web design
� photography/developing
� watercolor painting
most importantly, how to extend the fifteen minutes
left of my youth by about 50 years...so i can
accomplish at least half of these!
Cheers! Here's to learning all the time!
Kelly Ferry
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