Speech?
Brian and Kathy Stamp
Not sure if you have discussed this issue before but I'm curious about speech. My 4.5 year old dd has a lisp. To me it is much more prominent when she is nervous about talking(in front of adults that are asking her questions that she doesn't know very well) because she tends to not move her mouth as easily(not sure if that makes sense).
Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a problem.
Kathy
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Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a problem.
Kathy
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J. Stauffer
Lisps are quite common until about 7 or so. Dh went to speech therapy when
he was little because of a lisp. It consisted of practicing tongue twisters
full of "s" sounds. You could probably do it at home if it became a
problem.
Julie S.
he was little because of a lisp. It consisted of practicing tongue twisters
full of "s" sounds. You could probably do it at home if it became a
problem.
Julie S.
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> Not sure if you have discussed this issue before but I'm curious about
speech. My 4.5 year old dd has a lisp. To me it is much more prominent when
she is nervous about talking(in front of adults that are asking her
questions that she doesn't know very well) because she tends to not move her
mouth as easily(not sure if that makes sense).
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> Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech
therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to
understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main
thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a
problem.
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--Kathy writes:
Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a problem.
Dawn (in NS)
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Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Mine is 5.5 and has trouble with 'r' and sometimes 'th'. It's much improved over just a year ago however and I can sometimes catch her sounding things out on her own, when she thinks no one is listening, trying to get the words right. I'm not worried (most of the time anyway). We've all made the effort to understand her and if outsiders find it hard I'm usually there to help out. It just takes some a little longer to work it out. Your child doesn't have a teacher that needs to understand her or a room of kids who might tease her so why bother now?
Dawn (in NS)
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Robyn Coburn
<<Not sure if you have discussed this issue before but I'm curious about
speech. My 4.5 year old dd has a lisp. To me it is much more prominent when
she is nervous about talking(in front of adults that are asking her
questions that she doesn't know very well) because she tends to not move her
mouth as easily(not sure if that makes sense).
Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech
therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to
understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main
thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a
problem.>>
Jayn is 4. She has a bit of a lisp, and also says �w� instead of �L� a lot
of the time. Nothing would induce me to send her speech therapy. I�m
convinced it is a non-problem that she will grow out of and then we will
miss her endearing �I wuv you�. In fact it is clearly better than it was
even just a few months ago. Is Grace being asked stupid �quizzing� questions
by the adults? Jayn always clams up in that kind of situation. We always
tell people she won�t be a performing monkey.
Anyway, I think you may have plenty of time to seek speech therapy if she
lets you know she is very unhappy with her own progress.
Robyn L. Coburn
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speech. My 4.5 year old dd has a lisp. To me it is much more prominent when
she is nervous about talking(in front of adults that are asking her
questions that she doesn't know very well) because she tends to not move her
mouth as easily(not sure if that makes sense).
Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech
therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to
understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main
thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a
problem.>>
Jayn is 4. She has a bit of a lisp, and also says �w� instead of �L� a lot
of the time. Nothing would induce me to send her speech therapy. I�m
convinced it is a non-problem that she will grow out of and then we will
miss her endearing �I wuv you�. In fact it is clearly better than it was
even just a few months ago. Is Grace being asked stupid �quizzing� questions
by the adults? Jayn always clams up in that kind of situation. We always
tell people she won�t be a performing monkey.
Anyway, I think you may have plenty of time to seek speech therapy if she
lets you know she is very unhappy with her own progress.
Robyn L. Coburn
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I would wait three or four years. Most five year olds have some sound or
other they're not making clearly yet. Kirby said "Tirby" and Holly couldn't
pronounce "r" for a long time, but the're fine now.
Sandra
other they're not making clearly yet. Kirby said "Tirby" and Holly couldn't
pronounce "r" for a long time, but the're fine now.
Sandra
Elizabeth Roberts
My oldest is currently in speech therapy under an IEP with the local school. We're trying to get out of it. She has a mild articulation problem, and an unusual prosody, but I've come to realize that neither of these keeps her from communicating effectively with anyone, nor interferes with her forming friendships with people of various ages. So I no longer see her delay or prosody as a problem needing fixing. It's just the way she is. As it so happens, Sarah is interested in the theater and plans to take classes at the local Junior Theatre next year if we're still here (or we'll find one when we move). Having been there, I think she'll learn more about speaking well and clearly from those activities and through her participation in AWANAs where she's speaking in front of strangers than sitting in a little room once a week for 45 minutes saying certain sounds over and over.
If it's not affecting her relationships with others, or keeping her from communicating clearly, I'd just maybe at most work with her at home if it bothers her.
Good luck whatever your choice!
Elizabeth
Brian and Kathy Stamp <bstamp@...> wrote:
Not sure if you have discussed this issue before but I'm curious about speech. My 4.5 year old dd has a lisp. To me it is much more prominent when she is nervous about talking(in front of adults that are asking her questions that she doesn't know very well) because she tends to not move her mouth as easily(not sure if that makes sense).
Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a problem.
Kathy
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If it's not affecting her relationships with others, or keeping her from communicating clearly, I'd just maybe at most work with her at home if it bothers her.
Good luck whatever your choice!
Elizabeth
Brian and Kathy Stamp <bstamp@...> wrote:
Not sure if you have discussed this issue before but I'm curious about speech. My 4.5 year old dd has a lisp. To me it is much more prominent when she is nervous about talking(in front of adults that are asking her questions that she doesn't know very well) because she tends to not move her mouth as easily(not sure if that makes sense).
Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a problem.
Kathy
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Cameron had trouble with "Y"----he made it an "L".
Duncan did just the reverse: he made his "L" a "Y".
They're 16 and eight (next week). Neither still has these cute speech
"impediments". Wait and see. I think almost all are outgrown naturally. Then you'll
miss it!
~Kelly
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Duncan did just the reverse: he made his "L" a "Y".
They're 16 and eight (next week). Neither still has these cute speech
"impediments". Wait and see. I think almost all are outgrown naturally. Then you'll
miss it!
~Kelly
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Holly Selden
Max is 5.5 and still has problems with a good portion of his sounds. S, Th, R, F, L...etc. He's getting better with age and recently we went to the zoo and he said "I love the ZZZZooo." The z sound vibrated.
My husband had a problem with stuttering until his mom took him out of school in the 3rd grade.
I really think most kids with will outgrow it unless there is a physical deformity in the mouth.
DD also had trouble with TH until she was 5.5.
Give her some time and don't put too much pressure on her to "do it right"...that may make her more conscious of it.
Holly
My husband had a problem with stuttering until his mom took him out of school in the 3rd grade.
I really think most kids with will outgrow it unless there is a physical deformity in the mouth.
DD also had trouble with TH until she was 5.5.
Give her some time and don't put too much pressure on her to "do it right"...that may make her more conscious of it.
Holly
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From: Brian and Kathy Stamp
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Speech?
Not sure if you have discussed this issue before but I'm curious about speech. My 4.5 year old dd has a lisp. To me it is much more prominent when she is nervous about talking(in front of adults that are asking her questions that she doesn't know very well) because she tends to not move her mouth as easily(not sure if that makes sense).
Anyways wondering what you all think about having children go to speech therapy. I guess I'm concerned because others have said she is difficult to understand, although her family doesn't have much trouble at all. The main thing is her name is Grace so of course the "s" sound in her name is a problem.
Kathy
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In a message dated 2/24/2004 7:40:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
HLSelden@... writes:
Give her some time and don't put too much pressure on her to "do it
right"...that may make her more conscious of it.<<<<<
And keep in mind that in school 1) the school would be putting pressure on
her to "do it right" and 2) peers in school might "encourage" her (in a bad way)
to change sooner.
In her own time, she'll "hear" the differences and make the changes herself,
with no damage to her Self.
Be patient.
~Kelly
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HLSelden@... writes:
Give her some time and don't put too much pressure on her to "do it
right"...that may make her more conscious of it.<<<<<
And keep in mind that in school 1) the school would be putting pressure on
her to "do it right" and 2) peers in school might "encourage" her (in a bad way)
to change sooner.
In her own time, she'll "hear" the differences and make the changes herself,
with no damage to her Self.
Be patient.
~Kelly
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In a message dated 2/23/2004 1:54:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
boards. I'm also a speech therapist. Speech sounds are developmental. The th, l,
s, and r are most commonly misarticulated. It is not unusual for the s and
r to be distorted until even 7 or 8. Speech therapy will help those sounds
come in by that time also! :-)
Unless, a child's speech is unintelligible and causing a great deal of
frustration for the child (not the parent) I would just wait awhile. Enjoy their
speech as it develops and it won't be long until you will be missing that lisp
or their cute way of saying "Mr. Piss" instead of"Mr. Smith."
Not good for my business of course....but really the best thing for your
child.
Gail
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SandraDodd@... writes:
>I'd second this. I'm a lurker and only post occasionally on the message
> I would wait three or four years. Most five year olds have some sound or
> other they're not making clearly yet. Kirby said "Tirby" and Holly couldn't
>
> pronounce "r" for a long time, but the're fine now.
>
boards. I'm also a speech therapist. Speech sounds are developmental. The th, l,
s, and r are most commonly misarticulated. It is not unusual for the s and
r to be distorted until even 7 or 8. Speech therapy will help those sounds
come in by that time also! :-)
Unless, a child's speech is unintelligible and causing a great deal of
frustration for the child (not the parent) I would just wait awhile. Enjoy their
speech as it develops and it won't be long until you will be missing that lisp
or their cute way of saying "Mr. Piss" instead of"Mr. Smith."
Not good for my business of course....but really the best thing for your
child.
Gail
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In a message dated 2/25/04 3:56:27 AM, gailbrocop@... writes:
<< It is not unusual for the s and
r to be distorted until even 7 or 8. Speech therapy will help those sounds
come in by that time also! :-) >>
The difference (besides the possible expense and the definite time
involvement) is that with speech therapy, you tell the child there's something wrong
with her. How much money and time would it be worth if a child who has been
assured she's faulty could feel whole?
Keep them as whole as you can from the beginning and other things will go
better down the line.
Sandra
<< It is not unusual for the s and
r to be distorted until even 7 or 8. Speech therapy will help those sounds
come in by that time also! :-) >>
The difference (besides the possible expense and the definite time
involvement) is that with speech therapy, you tell the child there's something wrong
with her. How much money and time would it be worth if a child who has been
assured she's faulty could feel whole?
Keep them as whole as you can from the beginning and other things will go
better down the line.
Sandra
wifetovegman2002
Kathy,
DON'T DO IT! RUN AWAY! lol
Seriously, though, it created more trauma for my son (at the time
5yo) than not being understood. He believed something was 'wrong'
with him, that he needed to be 'fixed' by this lady. He went for 2
years. Yeah, she helped all right. I found out later that when he
didn't say things right she would bop him on his head with her book!
He's 12 and speaks fine now.
With my youngest son, we have been doing speech therapy in our home,
and once I ironed out the troubles I had with the therapist's
methods, things have been much smoother. I had to explain to her I
didn't want her to teach him to read while doing therapy, that I had
a specific way I wanted to teach him (ha ha ha) and that I would
rather she use picture clues and games rather than phonics cards.She
was disinclined to acquiesce to my request, until I pointed out that
*I* was paying her, not the other way around. (BTW, it was $2K for
in-home speech therapy for one year)
Still, I would suggest that {if your child} is frustrated by her
lisp and {if your child} wants to do something about it, go online
to www.nathhan.com and order their homeschool speech therapy program
called Straight Talk. I think it is like $45 or something for the
complete program...much more doable than $2,000!!
The only reason I suggest that one is that you are in charge of the
whole thing. When your daughter is bored or tired or not
interested, you don't have to do anything. When she wants to do it,
you can.
Now that I have learned about this program, I have ordered it but it
has not come yet. If I find it will work with my son, and he is
interested, we'll do that instead of having the speech therapist
come. After a year of watching her work with him, though, I could
easily just use the same games and techniques myself with him
without any program at all. Hmmm....now THERE'S a thought!
Susan M. in VA
DON'T DO IT! RUN AWAY! lol
Seriously, though, it created more trauma for my son (at the time
5yo) than not being understood. He believed something was 'wrong'
with him, that he needed to be 'fixed' by this lady. He went for 2
years. Yeah, she helped all right. I found out later that when he
didn't say things right she would bop him on his head with her book!
He's 12 and speaks fine now.
With my youngest son, we have been doing speech therapy in our home,
and once I ironed out the troubles I had with the therapist's
methods, things have been much smoother. I had to explain to her I
didn't want her to teach him to read while doing therapy, that I had
a specific way I wanted to teach him (ha ha ha) and that I would
rather she use picture clues and games rather than phonics cards.She
was disinclined to acquiesce to my request, until I pointed out that
*I* was paying her, not the other way around. (BTW, it was $2K for
in-home speech therapy for one year)
Still, I would suggest that {if your child} is frustrated by her
lisp and {if your child} wants to do something about it, go online
to www.nathhan.com and order their homeschool speech therapy program
called Straight Talk. I think it is like $45 or something for the
complete program...much more doable than $2,000!!
The only reason I suggest that one is that you are in charge of the
whole thing. When your daughter is bored or tired or not
interested, you don't have to do anything. When she wants to do it,
you can.
Now that I have learned about this program, I have ordered it but it
has not come yet. If I find it will work with my son, and he is
interested, we'll do that instead of having the speech therapist
come. After a year of watching her work with him, though, I could
easily just use the same games and techniques myself with him
without any program at all. Hmmm....now THERE'S a thought!
Susan M. in VA
Elizabeth Roberts
Also, look up LinguiSystems online...I get a catalog from them, and it is all supplies/games/etc. for speech therapists and others (it includes social skills and things like that for autistic/asperger's and other "disorders")
Elizabeth
wifetovegman2002 <wifetovegman2002@...> wrote:
Kathy,
DON'T DO IT! RUN AWAY! lol
Seriously, though, it created more trauma for my son (at the time
5yo) than not being understood. He believed something was 'wrong'
with him, that he needed to be 'fixed' by this lady. He went for 2
years. Yeah, she helped all right. I found out later that when he
didn't say things right she would bop him on his head with her book!
He's 12 and speaks fine now.
With my youngest son, we have been doing speech therapy in our home,
and once I ironed out the troubles I had with the therapist's
methods, things have been much smoother. I had to explain to her I
didn't want her to teach him to read while doing therapy, that I had
a specific way I wanted to teach him (ha ha ha) and that I would
rather she use picture clues and games rather than phonics cards.She
was disinclined to acquiesce to my request, until I pointed out that
*I* was paying her, not the other way around. (BTW, it was $2K for
in-home speech therapy for one year)
Still, I would suggest that {if your child} is frustrated by her
lisp and {if your child} wants to do something about it, go online
to www.nathhan.com and order their homeschool speech therapy program
called Straight Talk. I think it is like $45 or something for the
complete program...much more doable than $2,000!!
The only reason I suggest that one is that you are in charge of the
whole thing. When your daughter is bored or tired or not
interested, you don't have to do anything. When she wants to do it,
you can.
Now that I have learned about this program, I have ordered it but it
has not come yet. If I find it will work with my son, and he is
interested, we'll do that instead of having the speech therapist
come. After a year of watching her work with him, though, I could
easily just use the same games and techniques myself with him
without any program at all. Hmmm....now THERE'S a thought!
Susan M. in VA
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Elizabeth
wifetovegman2002 <wifetovegman2002@...> wrote:
Kathy,
DON'T DO IT! RUN AWAY! lol
Seriously, though, it created more trauma for my son (at the time
5yo) than not being understood. He believed something was 'wrong'
with him, that he needed to be 'fixed' by this lady. He went for 2
years. Yeah, she helped all right. I found out later that when he
didn't say things right she would bop him on his head with her book!
He's 12 and speaks fine now.
With my youngest son, we have been doing speech therapy in our home,
and once I ironed out the troubles I had with the therapist's
methods, things have been much smoother. I had to explain to her I
didn't want her to teach him to read while doing therapy, that I had
a specific way I wanted to teach him (ha ha ha) and that I would
rather she use picture clues and games rather than phonics cards.She
was disinclined to acquiesce to my request, until I pointed out that
*I* was paying her, not the other way around. (BTW, it was $2K for
in-home speech therapy for one year)
Still, I would suggest that {if your child} is frustrated by her
lisp and {if your child} wants to do something about it, go online
to www.nathhan.com and order their homeschool speech therapy program
called Straight Talk. I think it is like $45 or something for the
complete program...much more doable than $2,000!!
The only reason I suggest that one is that you are in charge of the
whole thing. When your daughter is bored or tired or not
interested, you don't have to do anything. When she wants to do it,
you can.
Now that I have learned about this program, I have ordered it but it
has not come yet. If I find it will work with my son, and he is
interested, we'll do that instead of having the speech therapist
come. After a year of watching her work with him, though, I could
easily just use the same games and techniques myself with him
without any program at all. Hmmm....now THERE'S a thought!
Susan M. in VA
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