Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] to all the posters on the tv issue
Elizabeth Hill
** Yes, I worry about the balance of tv when my kids lie on the couch
several afternoons in row watching the same Spongebob dvds.**
One thing that surprised me, when my 9 year old was a few years younger,
is that he would watch a rented kids movie that he especially liked
three or more times. It was hard for me to let go of the idea that
watching once was "understandable" but that watching many times was
"obsessive" or a real "waste".
Betsy
several afternoons in row watching the same Spongebob dvds.**
One thing that surprised me, when my 9 year old was a few years younger,
is that he would watch a rented kids movie that he especially liked
three or more times. It was hard for me to let go of the idea that
watching once was "understandable" but that watching many times was
"obsessive" or a real "waste".
Betsy
rachel_foodie
I have been up til, hmmm it's 4:22am now, so a long darn time. I have
read all the posts on the TV issue and may I say that you all are
just cool. I loved the answers, so varied and so right on the money.
I copied and pasted a bunch and sent them to my dh. We had a talk
about tv tonite, so it was providential that I found the thread.
See, I have not been on the pc for almost a week. Last I was here, I
posted quotes from Gatto and Pam thought I didn't like tv because of
it. May I state that we have Dishnetwork w/tivo recieves and HBO, 4
tvs, 4 dvd players,2 or 3 cd players, 3 vcrs, 2 laserdisc players,2
or 3 laptops, 3 pcs, hundreds of cds, dvds,laserdics,
videotapes,video games (oh yeah 2 gaming systems so far) , a new
minivan with cd/dvd player and 2 dropdown screens and 6 cd player
plus navigation system (it's the new Nissan Quest and it ROCKS!). My
husband is an avid EQ player. My 14 year old son wants to be a film
maker (and has a new kick ass digital movie camera). WE LOVE TV!!!
I also, personally, LOVE books. Love them to bits. I am always
reading about 10 at a time. And I can't stop buying them. I am
totally addicted to books. So, hey, go figure.
Yes, I worry about the balance of tv when my kids lie on the couch
several afternoons in row watching the same Spongebob dvds. We all
know all of them by heart...no joke.<g> But then other stuff happens,
on other days, that doesn't involve tv and I realize it's no big
deal. My dh is another story, but thank God ( and I do, coz I've
praying about it) dh is finally starting to come around.
Thank you all, I just love this list.
Rachel
read all the posts on the TV issue and may I say that you all are
just cool. I loved the answers, so varied and so right on the money.
I copied and pasted a bunch and sent them to my dh. We had a talk
about tv tonite, so it was providential that I found the thread.
See, I have not been on the pc for almost a week. Last I was here, I
posted quotes from Gatto and Pam thought I didn't like tv because of
it. May I state that we have Dishnetwork w/tivo recieves and HBO, 4
tvs, 4 dvd players,2 or 3 cd players, 3 vcrs, 2 laserdisc players,2
or 3 laptops, 3 pcs, hundreds of cds, dvds,laserdics,
videotapes,video games (oh yeah 2 gaming systems so far) , a new
minivan with cd/dvd player and 2 dropdown screens and 6 cd player
plus navigation system (it's the new Nissan Quest and it ROCKS!). My
husband is an avid EQ player. My 14 year old son wants to be a film
maker (and has a new kick ass digital movie camera). WE LOVE TV!!!
I also, personally, LOVE books. Love them to bits. I am always
reading about 10 at a time. And I can't stop buying them. I am
totally addicted to books. So, hey, go figure.
Yes, I worry about the balance of tv when my kids lie on the couch
several afternoons in row watching the same Spongebob dvds. We all
know all of them by heart...no joke.<g> But then other stuff happens,
on other days, that doesn't involve tv and I realize it's no big
deal. My dh is another story, but thank God ( and I do, coz I've
praying about it) dh is finally starting to come around.
Thank you all, I just love this list.
Rachel
Elizabeth Hill
** Betsy - how is this any different than a child wanting you to read to
them the same picture book over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over again? I love that my kids want to see something
until they are thouroughly content that they've had enough...not by
anyone elses standards but their own. My 5yo is constantly browsing our
body books, animal books, maps - over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over....**
You are right that it is the same impulse or need being met. We kind of
missed the toddler book repetition age (my son didn't like books a great
deal as a toddler and was nursed to sleep for many years, instead of
being read to sleep.) Anyway, the video repetition surprised me when I
observed it, because it's rare for me to watch anything twice, at least
in the same day or even month. I had (and probably still have) some
pro-book, anti-other-media prejudice. I could ignore that feeling
through ONE showing of The Three Ninjas, or other low-budget kid video,
but after the third or fourth viewing, my conscience was screeching
about "wasted time". And, clearly, although parents may joke about
getting bored reading the same book over and over, I don't think anyone
thinks an extra repetition of a bedtime story is a waste of the child's
time.
Betsy
them the same picture book over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over again? I love that my kids want to see something
until they are thouroughly content that they've had enough...not by
anyone elses standards but their own. My 5yo is constantly browsing our
body books, animal books, maps - over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over....**
You are right that it is the same impulse or need being met. We kind of
missed the toddler book repetition age (my son didn't like books a great
deal as a toddler and was nursed to sleep for many years, instead of
being read to sleep.) Anyway, the video repetition surprised me when I
observed it, because it's rare for me to watch anything twice, at least
in the same day or even month. I had (and probably still have) some
pro-book, anti-other-media prejudice. I could ignore that feeling
through ONE showing of The Three Ninjas, or other low-budget kid video,
but after the third or fourth viewing, my conscience was screeching
about "wasted time". And, clearly, although parents may joke about
getting bored reading the same book over and over, I don't think anyone
thinks an extra repetition of a bedtime story is a waste of the child's
time.
Betsy
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In a message dated 2/13/2004 10:33:28 AM Central Standard Time,
ecsamhill@... writes:
have played any of the parts, including the dog, LOL
Laura
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ecsamhill@... writes:
> One thing that surprised me, when my 9 year old was a few years younger,I can remember my now 21yro son watching "Old Yeller" so many times I could
> is that he would watch a rented kids movie that he especially liked
> three or more times.
have played any of the parts, including the dog, LOL
Laura
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Lisa H
One thing that surprised me, when my 9 year old was a few years younger,
is that he would watch a rented kids movie that he especially liked
three or more times. It was hard for me to let go of the idea that
watching once was "understandable" but that watching many times was
"obsessive" or a real "waste".
Betsy
***********************
Betsy - how is this any different than a child wanting you to read to them the same picture book over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again? I love that my kids want to see something until they are thouroughly content that they've had enough...not by anyone elses standards but their own. My 5yo is constantly browsing our body books, animal books, maps - over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....
Lisa H.
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is that he would watch a rented kids movie that he especially liked
three or more times. It was hard for me to let go of the idea that
watching once was "understandable" but that watching many times was
"obsessive" or a real "waste".
Betsy
***********************
Betsy - how is this any different than a child wanting you to read to them the same picture book over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again? I love that my kids want to see something until they are thouroughly content that they've had enough...not by anyone elses standards but their own. My 5yo is constantly browsing our body books, animal books, maps - over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....
Lisa H.
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Elizabeth Hill
** My DD will watch a movie so many times that we all know the words by
heart. Then, just like that, she won't want to watch again for a
LONG time and it's on to another one. I know all the words to Babe,
Finding Nemo, Lion King (I could go on and on) now she's on to Lion
King 1 1/2 (she watched that one maybe 4 times yesterday).**
I've composed mental thank you letters to Steve Jobs and Pixar, because
when my son was in the preschool age range (about 5 years ago), "Toy
Story" was the only Disney movie that I still enjoyed after the 10th
viewing. I consider that quite an artistic accomplishment.
** When it wasn't so cold out, we were almost never home during the day
so I'm waiting for the spring and warm weather again so that we can
all get out of the house. I like tv too but, I'm tired of knowing
what's on every hour of the day. :)**
Kind of the same thing is going on here. We got 150 channels of Dish TV
in October, and after Xmas when it was rainy here, we burrowed down and
watched tons of TV. On days when we are home, I would estimate that my
son watches at least 4 hours of TV (which sound like a lot) and I watch
a similar amount, but I might be folding laundry or sewing or even
reading magazines while the TV is on. It seems like TV is the dominant
thing around here, and I realize it has a lot to do with us not being
very connected to our new community and me not having lots of energy and
ideas. And my child doesn't have siblings. But, some days we aren't
home all day. On Tuesdays and many Fridays we leave the house at 10am
and play all day and don't come back until 8 or 9 or even 10 pm. There
aren't any "withdrawal symptoms" from the rumored "TV addiction". ;-)
It wouldn't be accurate for me to say that my son has a steady diet of
nothing but TV and Playstation.
Betsy
heart. Then, just like that, she won't want to watch again for a
LONG time and it's on to another one. I know all the words to Babe,
Finding Nemo, Lion King (I could go on and on) now she's on to Lion
King 1 1/2 (she watched that one maybe 4 times yesterday).**
I've composed mental thank you letters to Steve Jobs and Pixar, because
when my son was in the preschool age range (about 5 years ago), "Toy
Story" was the only Disney movie that I still enjoyed after the 10th
viewing. I consider that quite an artistic accomplishment.
** When it wasn't so cold out, we were almost never home during the day
so I'm waiting for the spring and warm weather again so that we can
all get out of the house. I like tv too but, I'm tired of knowing
what's on every hour of the day. :)**
Kind of the same thing is going on here. We got 150 channels of Dish TV
in October, and after Xmas when it was rainy here, we burrowed down and
watched tons of TV. On days when we are home, I would estimate that my
son watches at least 4 hours of TV (which sound like a lot) and I watch
a similar amount, but I might be folding laundry or sewing or even
reading magazines while the TV is on. It seems like TV is the dominant
thing around here, and I realize it has a lot to do with us not being
very connected to our new community and me not having lots of energy and
ideas. And my child doesn't have siblings. But, some days we aren't
home all day. On Tuesdays and many Fridays we leave the house at 10am
and play all day and don't come back until 8 or 9 or even 10 pm. There
aren't any "withdrawal symptoms" from the rumored "TV addiction". ;-)
It wouldn't be accurate for me to say that my son has a steady diet of
nothing but TV and Playstation.
Betsy
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In a message dated 2/13/04 9:33:28 AM, ecsamhill@... writes:
<< One thing that surprised me, when my 9 year old was a few years younger,
is that he would watch a rented kids movie that he especially liked
three or more times. It was hard for me to let go of the idea that
watching once was "understandable" but that watching many times was
"obsessive" or a real "waste". >>
My kids still do that, but the model I had close at hand from being an
English-major type was that no one who has only read a poem or a book or a play once
would ever presume to "teach" it or claim to know it. They read it over and
over, mark it up, read other people's commentary, read it with a particular
person/place/thing in mind, read it over for years.
And so I withheld my criticism of Marty watching Dumbo daily for weeks, or
Holly watching Stand By Me again, sometimes twice in a day. Also, my kids tend
toward things with music, and they want to learn all the words, and both those
movies have songs.
They're good people who know a few movies and videos really, really well. <G>
Sandra
<< One thing that surprised me, when my 9 year old was a few years younger,
is that he would watch a rented kids movie that he especially liked
three or more times. It was hard for me to let go of the idea that
watching once was "understandable" but that watching many times was
"obsessive" or a real "waste". >>
My kids still do that, but the model I had close at hand from being an
English-major type was that no one who has only read a poem or a book or a play once
would ever presume to "teach" it or claim to know it. They read it over and
over, mark it up, read other people's commentary, read it with a particular
person/place/thing in mind, read it over for years.
And so I withheld my criticism of Marty watching Dumbo daily for weeks, or
Holly watching Stand By Me again, sometimes twice in a day. Also, my kids tend
toward things with music, and they want to learn all the words, and both those
movies have songs.
They're good people who know a few movies and videos really, really well. <G>
Sandra
pam sorooshian
On Feb 13, 2004, at 1:22 AM, rachel_foodie wrote:
uncomfortable with John Gatto being made out to be some kind of
authority - on an unschooling list. That's all. He had some great
insights about schools, where he worked for most of his adult life.
They are useful to read in order to understand some of the reasons
schools are the way they are -- but he doesn't know ANYTHING more than
anybody here about television and unschooled kids. Zippo. (Different
than - Zippy <BEG>)
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
> Last I was here, ITo clarify, again -- I was commenting on GATTO, not on you. I'm
> posted quotes from Gatto and Pam thought I didn't like tv because of
> it.
uncomfortable with John Gatto being made out to be some kind of
authority - on an unschooling list. That's all. He had some great
insights about schools, where he worked for most of his adult life.
They are useful to read in order to understand some of the reasons
schools are the way they are -- but he doesn't know ANYTHING more than
anybody here about television and unschooled kids. Zippo. (Different
than - Zippy <BEG>)
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
Melissa
--- In [email protected], Elizabeth Hill
<<I could ignore that feeling through ONE showing of The Three
Ninjas, or other low-budget kid video, but after the third or fourth
viewing, my conscience was screeching about "wasted time".>>
My DD will watch a movie so many times that we all know the words by
heart. Then, just like that, she won't want to watch again for a
LONG time and it's on to another one. I know all the words to Babe,
Finding Nemo, Lion King (I could go on and on) now she's on to Lion
King 1 1/2 (she watched that one maybe 4 times yesterday). I'm not
sure what it is but, she seems to take something new away from each
viewing. We also read books over and over and over and over again,
she loves books as much as she does movies. Then, the same things
happens. We she gets a new book, it's the only one she wants me to
read to her, until even she can read it. Then, it's on to another
book.
I used to be the same way as you. If she was reading a book 10
times, I was fine with that. But, watching a movies 10 times, that
can't be good for her. Until I joined this list. Now, it really
dosen't bother me when she watches tv most of the day, for a couple
of reasons. She really dosen't watch it all day (even if sometimes
it feels that way) and, even if she does watch most of the day, she
is almost always doing something else too. Pulling out her toys to
play with me, coloring, playing with Play Doh, Pretending
___________,. And, it is almost never hard to pull her away with
other, "more worthwhile" activities.
When it wasn't so cold out, we were almost never home during the day
so I'm waiting for the spring and warm weather again so that we can
all get out of the house. I like tv too but, I'm tired of knowing
what's on every hour of the day. :)
Melissa
<<I could ignore that feeling through ONE showing of The Three
Ninjas, or other low-budget kid video, but after the third or fourth
viewing, my conscience was screeching about "wasted time".>>
My DD will watch a movie so many times that we all know the words by
heart. Then, just like that, she won't want to watch again for a
LONG time and it's on to another one. I know all the words to Babe,
Finding Nemo, Lion King (I could go on and on) now she's on to Lion
King 1 1/2 (she watched that one maybe 4 times yesterday). I'm not
sure what it is but, she seems to take something new away from each
viewing. We also read books over and over and over and over again,
she loves books as much as she does movies. Then, the same things
happens. We she gets a new book, it's the only one she wants me to
read to her, until even she can read it. Then, it's on to another
book.
I used to be the same way as you. If she was reading a book 10
times, I was fine with that. But, watching a movies 10 times, that
can't be good for her. Until I joined this list. Now, it really
dosen't bother me when she watches tv most of the day, for a couple
of reasons. She really dosen't watch it all day (even if sometimes
it feels that way) and, even if she does watch most of the day, she
is almost always doing something else too. Pulling out her toys to
play with me, coloring, playing with Play Doh, Pretending
___________,. And, it is almost never hard to pull her away with
other, "more worthwhile" activities.
When it wasn't so cold out, we were almost never home during the day
so I'm waiting for the spring and warm weather again so that we can
all get out of the house. I like tv too but, I'm tired of knowing
what's on every hour of the day. :)
Melissa
Lisa H
<<was nursed to sleep for many years, instead of being read to sleep>>
<LOL> makes me think of all those nights of nursing and reading simulataneuosly...and then the tandem nursing and trying to read simultaneously...need really long arms for that one! Finally the girls figured out that it was really difficult to nurse two kids and hold a book all at the same time. So eventually my older daughter became the book holder and my younger turned the pages! Oh what solutions we find <g>
Lisa H.
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<LOL> makes me think of all those nights of nursing and reading simulataneuosly...and then the tandem nursing and trying to read simultaneously...need really long arms for that one! Finally the girls figured out that it was really difficult to nurse two kids and hold a book all at the same time. So eventually my older daughter became the book holder and my younger turned the pages! Oh what solutions we find <g>
Lisa H.
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In a message dated 2/14/04 8:53:23 AM, melissa4123@... writes:
<< I like tv too but, I'm tired of knowing
what's on every hour of the day. :) >>
We have two children who don't like change. Kirby used to be disturbed if
furniture was rearranged or we lost a bowl he liked. He's better now at
nearly-grown.
Holly rants when re-run schedules are changed. If she's used to watching
Simpsons at 5:00 she does NOT want to turn the TV on and find Friends or Dharma
and Greg. And it's not that she doesn't like those shows, it's just that it's
5:00, and should be Simpsons.
She understands that primetime schedules change and there are specials. That
doesn't bother her. It's just the re-runs that she tells time by.
When I was a kid I'd get home from school and could tell what time it was
within five or ten minutes by what was on TV, and whether it had just been a
commercial, or been a while since a commercial. When they moved the Gilligan's
Island re-runs I had to start using a clock again.
Sandra
<< I like tv too but, I'm tired of knowing
what's on every hour of the day. :) >>
We have two children who don't like change. Kirby used to be disturbed if
furniture was rearranged or we lost a bowl he liked. He's better now at
nearly-grown.
Holly rants when re-run schedules are changed. If she's used to watching
Simpsons at 5:00 she does NOT want to turn the TV on and find Friends or Dharma
and Greg. And it's not that she doesn't like those shows, it's just that it's
5:00, and should be Simpsons.
She understands that primetime schedules change and there are specials. That
doesn't bother her. It's just the re-runs that she tells time by.
When I was a kid I'd get home from school and could tell what time it was
within five or ten minutes by what was on TV, and whether it had just been a
commercial, or been a while since a commercial. When they moved the Gilligan's
Island re-runs I had to start using a clock again.
Sandra
Lisa H
Oh Sandra,
I had to laugh at your post about kids learning time (and btw math - fractions, proportions) via the tv schedule
Recently my dh was upset that my dd couldn't tell him what time they were going to arrive somewhere when it was 6:38 in the morning and the ride was an hour and half long. She was off by twenty two minutes. He's wondering how she's going to learn this stuff....I've explained that when she was running her art program for homeschool preschoolers she had to keep her eye on the clock and plan accordingly.
He's supportive of unschooling in theory so may appreciate the concept of learning time and adding fractions via her tv watching. otoh, my own parents and siblings would look at me loopy if I tried to explain the value of tv in terms of learning about time and math concepts - but she can learn that from a book - they would say <lol>
Lisa H.
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I had to laugh at your post about kids learning time (and btw math - fractions, proportions) via the tv schedule
Recently my dh was upset that my dd couldn't tell him what time they were going to arrive somewhere when it was 6:38 in the morning and the ride was an hour and half long. She was off by twenty two minutes. He's wondering how she's going to learn this stuff....I've explained that when she was running her art program for homeschool preschoolers she had to keep her eye on the clock and plan accordingly.
He's supportive of unschooling in theory so may appreciate the concept of learning time and adding fractions via her tv watching. otoh, my own parents and siblings would look at me loopy if I tried to explain the value of tv in terms of learning about time and math concepts - but she can learn that from a book - they would say <lol>
Lisa H.
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Danielle Conger
Okay, maybe I'm the only one, but I watch the same movies over and over again at night to fall asleep. I am perfectly happy to fall asleep to one of the LOTR DVDs (or Star Wars, Matrix, etc.) instead of listening to dh channel around or watch shows that just aren't interesting me. There are a few shows that I watch regularly in the evening, but my favorite thing to do is fall asleep to a movie I really like. So, I'm just as bad as the kids! *g*
--danielle
Betsy wrote: Anyway, the video repetition surprised me when I
observed it, because it's rare for me to watch anything twice, at least
in the same day or even month. I had (and probably still have) some
pro-book, anti-other-media prejudice. I could ignore that feeling
through ONE showing of The Three Ninjas, or other low-budget kid video,
but after the third or fourth viewing, my conscience was screeching
about "wasted time". And, clearly, although parents may joke about
getting bored reading the same book over and over, I don't think anyone
thinks an extra repetition of a bedtime story is a waste of the child's
time.
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--danielle
Betsy wrote: Anyway, the video repetition surprised me when I
observed it, because it's rare for me to watch anything twice, at least
in the same day or even month. I had (and probably still have) some
pro-book, anti-other-media prejudice. I could ignore that feeling
through ONE showing of The Three Ninjas, or other low-budget kid video,
but after the third or fourth viewing, my conscience was screeching
about "wasted time". And, clearly, although parents may joke about
getting bored reading the same book over and over, I don't think anyone
thinks an extra repetition of a bedtime story is a waste of the child's
time.
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Robyn Coburn
<<They read it over and over, mark it up, read other people's commentary,
read it with a particular
person/place/thing in mind, read it over for years.
And so I withheld my criticism of Marty watching Dumbo daily for weeks, or
Holly watching Stand By Me again, sometimes twice in a day. Also, my kids
tend
toward things with music, and they want to learn all the words, and both
those
movies have songs.>>
Jayn watches her videos and recorded shows over and over. When she has a new
dvd, I notice that she will not be paying close attention to the whole thing
� but goes in and out, plays dolls or other games with the movie on in the
room. Then when it ends she wants it again. She is upset if she returns to
the room where her movie was playing and it has been turned off in the
interim. I figure she ends up seeing the whole movie in segments over the
course of a few days. Then she will put it away in her dvd box, until she
wants to watch again at some unpredictable time in the future. She always
comes back to them eventually. I can�t see us ever tossing any of her dvd�s.
Thank goodness they take up so much less space than videos. Renting doesn�t
work for us either, since she will always want to watch them again later.
I am the same way about favorite movies and books. I sometimes just get a
hankering to read a book again.
Robyn L. Coburn
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read it with a particular
person/place/thing in mind, read it over for years.
And so I withheld my criticism of Marty watching Dumbo daily for weeks, or
Holly watching Stand By Me again, sometimes twice in a day. Also, my kids
tend
toward things with music, and they want to learn all the words, and both
those
movies have songs.>>
Jayn watches her videos and recorded shows over and over. When she has a new
dvd, I notice that she will not be paying close attention to the whole thing
� but goes in and out, plays dolls or other games with the movie on in the
room. Then when it ends she wants it again. She is upset if she returns to
the room where her movie was playing and it has been turned off in the
interim. I figure she ends up seeing the whole movie in segments over the
course of a few days. Then she will put it away in her dvd box, until she
wants to watch again at some unpredictable time in the future. She always
comes back to them eventually. I can�t see us ever tossing any of her dvd�s.
Thank goodness they take up so much less space than videos. Renting doesn�t
work for us either, since she will always want to watch them again later.
I am the same way about favorite movies and books. I sometimes just get a
hankering to read a book again.
Robyn L. Coburn
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Have a Nice Day!
How many of you buy dvd's/videos?
I can't stand to see the same thing over and over, though my kids do that
too. We have some.
But my favorite place is the library where they have a pretty nice selection
of videos, etc.
We got rid of cable bec. it just didn't seem worth the money....and we
didni't really have the money to start with, but we have Netflix, and that
is so much fun to just order whatever and have it come in the mail. Their
selection is AWESOME!
Anyway, I was just wondering if a lot of you buy or do you enjoy
renting/borrowing?
Kristen
I can't stand to see the same thing over and over, though my kids do that
too. We have some.
But my favorite place is the library where they have a pretty nice selection
of videos, etc.
We got rid of cable bec. it just didn't seem worth the money....and we
didni't really have the money to start with, but we have Netflix, and that
is so much fun to just order whatever and have it come in the mail. Their
selection is AWESOME!
Anyway, I was just wondering if a lot of you buy or do you enjoy
renting/borrowing?
Kristen
Melissa
<<Renting doesn't work for us either, since she will always want to
watch them again later.>>
We have tried renting movies but, she loves to watch them so many
times that I end up having to buy them anyway so then I've spent the
money renting AND buying it. I've simply resigned myself to buying
anything that looks like she'll like it. Most of the time, I like
them too so, no big deal. :)
<<I am the same way about favorite movies and books. I sometimes
just get a hankering to read a book again.>>
I have given away books before (to the library or sold some on
Amazon) and then regretted it. I now hold on to all of my books,
even if I don't think that I'll want to read them again. My DH puts
up with my HUGE library of books, they are everywhere. It only
really bugs him when he has to move the boxes they are in. ;)
Melissa
watch them again later.>>
We have tried renting movies but, she loves to watch them so many
times that I end up having to buy them anyway so then I've spent the
money renting AND buying it. I've simply resigned myself to buying
anything that looks like she'll like it. Most of the time, I like
them too so, no big deal. :)
<<I am the same way about favorite movies and books. I sometimes
just get a hankering to read a book again.>>
I have given away books before (to the library or sold some on
Amazon) and then regretted it. I now hold on to all of my books,
even if I don't think that I'll want to read them again. My DH puts
up with my HUGE library of books, they are everywhere. It only
really bugs him when he has to move the boxes they are in. ;)
Melissa
Marjorie Kirk
Anyway, I was just wondering if a lot of you buy or do you enjoy
renting/borrowing?
Kristen
We occasionally get DVDs as gifts, but rarely do I buy them. Not only do I
hate to spend the money, but I get tired of having so much stuff around!
I'm really working on de-cluttering and simplifying. Normally we get ours
from the library. Our library system is excellent. Almost anything you
order will be delivered to your nearest branch in 3 to 5 days. If you want
it right away, you can check on-line then go to the particular branch that
has it and pick it up. There are 20-some branch locations within half hour
of our house. You can keep them 5 days, then renew for another 5 if they
aren't reserved by someone else. If it's a new or particularly in demand
movie the wait may be longer, so we may rent it if we don't want to wait.
Marjorie
renting/borrowing?
Kristen
We occasionally get DVDs as gifts, but rarely do I buy them. Not only do I
hate to spend the money, but I get tired of having so much stuff around!
I'm really working on de-cluttering and simplifying. Normally we get ours
from the library. Our library system is excellent. Almost anything you
order will be delivered to your nearest branch in 3 to 5 days. If you want
it right away, you can check on-line then go to the particular branch that
has it and pick it up. There are 20-some branch locations within half hour
of our house. You can keep them 5 days, then renew for another 5 if they
aren't reserved by someone else. If it's a new or particularly in demand
movie the wait may be longer, so we may rent it if we don't want to wait.
Marjorie
Elizabeth Roberts
We do have an extended cable package with cable internet. We use the TV quite a bit, with Discovery, Discovery Health, Discovery Wings, National Geographic, Nickelodeon, Disney and ToonDisney being the usual channels being watched. There's also many music channels, so I'll often have them on as background noise.
We only recently bought a DVD player, and are slowly building up a collection. We rent first if possible to see how well-liked something will be. I'd rather not buy one to be only watched once or twice then never again. We had quite a collection of videos before they wore out or were lost in the move. Among them we had nearly all of the Veggie Tales movies up to that point, and quite a few Disney movies, a few Rugrats and a couple Blue's Clues.
We're not buying any more videos at this point, although if something isn't available on DVD that we want to rent but is available on video we'll be able to still rent. We only rent once a payday though..so maybe twice a month.
MamaBeth
Have a Nice Day! <litlrooh@...> wrote:
How many of you buy dvd's/videos?
I can't stand to see the same thing over and over, though my kids do that
too. We have some.
But my favorite place is the library where they have a pretty nice selection
of videos, etc.
We got rid of cable bec. it just didn't seem worth the money....and we
didni't really have the money to start with, but we have Netflix, and that
is so much fun to just order whatever and have it come in the mail. Their
selection is AWESOME!
Anyway, I was just wondering if a lot of you buy or do you enjoy
renting/borrowing?
Kristen
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We only recently bought a DVD player, and are slowly building up a collection. We rent first if possible to see how well-liked something will be. I'd rather not buy one to be only watched once or twice then never again. We had quite a collection of videos before they wore out or were lost in the move. Among them we had nearly all of the Veggie Tales movies up to that point, and quite a few Disney movies, a few Rugrats and a couple Blue's Clues.
We're not buying any more videos at this point, although if something isn't available on DVD that we want to rent but is available on video we'll be able to still rent. We only rent once a payday though..so maybe twice a month.
MamaBeth
Have a Nice Day! <litlrooh@...> wrote:
How many of you buy dvd's/videos?
I can't stand to see the same thing over and over, though my kids do that
too. We have some.
But my favorite place is the library where they have a pretty nice selection
of videos, etc.
We got rid of cable bec. it just didn't seem worth the money....and we
didni't really have the money to start with, but we have Netflix, and that
is so much fun to just order whatever and have it come in the mail. Their
selection is AWESOME!
Anyway, I was just wondering if a lot of you buy or do you enjoy
renting/borrowing?
Kristen
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Kathleen Gehrke
--- In [email protected], "Melissa"
<melissa4123@y...> wrote:
My nine year old commented,"Dad must really like this one." When we
first got Pirates of the Carribean it was me every single day for
about a week and a half that suggested.... "Lets watch it again." I
love all of the nuances you get from a movie on repeat watches. I
think for kids it is just another form of learning.
Kathleen
<melissa4123@y...> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Elizabeth Hillby
>
>> My DD will watch a movie so many times that we all know the words
> heart.Heck, my hubby is in the living room now quoting Back to the Future.
My nine year old commented,"Dad must really like this one." When we
first got Pirates of the Carribean it was me every single day for
about a week and a half that suggested.... "Lets watch it again." I
love all of the nuances you get from a movie on repeat watches. I
think for kids it is just another form of learning.
Kathleen
Melissa
<<How many of you buy dvd's/videos?>>
We used to buy quite a few videos and then dvd's, once we bought the
dvd player. My MIL and FIL gave us an entire collection of the
Disney movies on video so we didn't have to buy many of them.
However, we did buy a few blue's clues, veggie tales, bear in the
big blue house and so on. We stoped buying them (and started
recording them from the Disney channel) when we were really tight on
money. Now that we no longer have the money issues, we are once
again buying dvd's but mostly ones that aren't on Disney. Things
like Finding Nemo and Monsters Inc. But, if we didn't have the
money to do that, we wouldn't, we would probably rent or get from
the library as well.
Melissa
We used to buy quite a few videos and then dvd's, once we bought the
dvd player. My MIL and FIL gave us an entire collection of the
Disney movies on video so we didn't have to buy many of them.
However, we did buy a few blue's clues, veggie tales, bear in the
big blue house and so on. We stoped buying them (and started
recording them from the Disney channel) when we were really tight on
money. Now that we no longer have the money issues, we are once
again buying dvd's but mostly ones that aren't on Disney. Things
like Finding Nemo and Monsters Inc. But, if we didn't have the
money to do that, we wouldn't, we would probably rent or get from
the library as well.
Melissa
Melissa
--- In [email protected], "Kathleen Gehrke"
<gehrkes@y...> wrote:
<<I love all of the nuances you get from a movie on repeat watches.
I think for kids it is just another form of learning.>>
I will watch a movie many times as well (though not over and over in
the same day). I have a large collection of movies that I may not
watch for months and then decide "I haven't seen that one on a
while, why not?" I have seen Gone With The Wind so many times, I
think that I could play Scarlett! :)
I was just watching an episode of Friends that I have seen I don't
know how many times and JUST got a joke in it. That's when it
clicked with me why my DD likes to watch over and over, she can
always pick up something that she missed the first or tenth time
around (especially when she will walk away from it for long periods
of time to play).
Melissa
<gehrkes@y...> wrote:
<<I love all of the nuances you get from a movie on repeat watches.
I think for kids it is just another form of learning.>>
I will watch a movie many times as well (though not over and over in
the same day). I have a large collection of movies that I may not
watch for months and then decide "I haven't seen that one on a
while, why not?" I have seen Gone With The Wind so many times, I
think that I could play Scarlett! :)
I was just watching an episode of Friends that I have seen I don't
know how many times and JUST got a joke in it. That's when it
clicked with me why my DD likes to watch over and over, she can
always pick up something that she missed the first or tenth time
around (especially when she will walk away from it for long periods
of time to play).
Melissa
Kelly Lenhart
There are places that you can trade the DVD's in--the used record stores of
our time. We have done that with some video games the kids ended up not
really playing. (I couldn't bear to part with my Tetris Worlds, even though
I never get to play.)
Kelly
our time. We have done that with some video games the kids ended up not
really playing. (I couldn't bear to part with my Tetris Worlds, even though
I never get to play.)
Kelly
Diane
I buy classics, like My Fair Lady, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and some
Disney films the kids want to see over and over again. I also buy my
son's train videos, although that's a rare treat, since they're quite
expensive. We get most of our videos from the library--7 day checkout
with up to two renewals, and they have most of the stuff we want to see.
Recent films are $1/day, but that's not much of an issue for us yet.
Someday I'll try Netflix, but right now we're doing fine with the
library selection.
:-) Diane
Have a Nice Day! wrote:
Disney films the kids want to see over and over again. I also buy my
son's train videos, although that's a rare treat, since they're quite
expensive. We get most of our videos from the library--7 day checkout
with up to two renewals, and they have most of the stuff we want to see.
Recent films are $1/day, but that's not much of an issue for us yet.
Someday I'll try Netflix, but right now we're doing fine with the
library selection.
:-) Diane
Have a Nice Day! wrote:
>How many of you buy dvd's/videos?
>
>I can't stand to see the same thing over and over, though my kids do that
>too. We have some.
>
[email protected]
In a message dated 2/13/2004 12:51:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
To clarify, again -- I was commenting on GATTO, not on you. I'm
uncomfortable with John Gatto being made out to be some kind of
authority - on an unschooling list. That's all. He had some great
insights about schools, where he worked for most of his adult life.
They are useful to read in order to understand some of the reasons
schools are the way they are -- but he doesn't know ANYTHING more than
anybody here about television and unschooled kids. Zippo. (Different
than - Zippy <BEG>)<<<<
I recommend Gatto all the time as a jumping off point for those who still
believe that school is the way to go---who aren't sure whether they can make the
jump----or for the husband who's teetering on the edge. And he's a great
resource for "concerned" grandparents, family, friends, and neighbors who are
insisting that school is mandatory for learning. Gatto gives his <biased> POV, but
he's VERY convincing!
I have yet to talk to someone who's read The Underground History who has not
come away with a new view of public education. And they are more likely to
pull a child out of school, or be grateful that their grandchild has been!
So, I tell them to read Gatto and then Holt. Then that they must come to the
conference. The revelation is miraculous.
~Kelly
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
To clarify, again -- I was commenting on GATTO, not on you. I'm
uncomfortable with John Gatto being made out to be some kind of
authority - on an unschooling list. That's all. He had some great
insights about schools, where he worked for most of his adult life.
They are useful to read in order to understand some of the reasons
schools are the way they are -- but he doesn't know ANYTHING more than
anybody here about television and unschooled kids. Zippo. (Different
than - Zippy <BEG>)<<<<
I recommend Gatto all the time as a jumping off point for those who still
believe that school is the way to go---who aren't sure whether they can make the
jump----or for the husband who's teetering on the edge. And he's a great
resource for "concerned" grandparents, family, friends, and neighbors who are
insisting that school is mandatory for learning. Gatto gives his <biased> POV, but
he's VERY convincing!
I have yet to talk to someone who's read The Underground History who has not
come away with a new view of public education. And they are more likely to
pull a child out of school, or be grateful that their grandchild has been!
So, I tell them to read Gatto and then Holt. Then that they must come to the
conference. The revelation is miraculous.
~Kelly
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[email protected]
In a message dated 2/16/2004 7:49:59 AM Central Standard Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:
I wanted to hs our last 2 boys..it helped immensely. I think Gatto is good to
recommend for dads who are on the fence, I think it is because he
speaks/writes with authority, the authority that can only come from having lived it, he
is believable.
Laura
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kbcdlovejo@... writes:
> recommend Gatto all the time as a jumping off point for those who still"Dumbing Us Down" was the one book I was able to persuade my DH to read when
> believe that school is the way to go---who aren't sure whether they can make
> the
> jump----or for the husband who's teetering on the edge.
I wanted to hs our last 2 boys..it helped immensely. I think Gatto is good to
recommend for dads who are on the fence, I think it is because he
speaks/writes with authority, the authority that can only come from having lived it, he
is believable.
Laura
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pam sorooshian
On Feb 16, 2004, at 6:36 AM, BonKnit@... wrote:
comes from being a teacher for many many years. He hasn't had anything
to do with unschooling and is not at all an authority on unschooling.
I like "Dumbing Us Down" too - it had a great influence on my thinking
about school and on what I didn't want to bring into our home FROM
school. Good for dads who don't have the inclination to read a lot -
the book is a series of essays and they can get the main points even if
they only read a couple of them.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
> I think Gatto is good toTo be clear, you mean he "lived it" in terms of school. His "authority"
> recommend for dads who are on the fence, I think it is because he
> speaks/writes with authority, the authority that can only come from
> having lived it, he
> is believable.
comes from being a teacher for many many years. He hasn't had anything
to do with unschooling and is not at all an authority on unschooling.
I like "Dumbing Us Down" too - it had a great influence on my thinking
about school and on what I didn't want to bring into our home FROM
school. Good for dads who don't have the inclination to read a lot -
the book is a series of essays and they can get the main points even if
they only read a couple of them.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
[email protected]
In a message dated 2/16/2004 12:24:15 PM Central Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
< Good for dads who don't have the inclination to read a lot -
the book is a series of essays and they can get the main points even if
they only read a couple of them.>
Exactly, when I got DH to read this he wasn't a big reader. (He is now, go
figure)
Laura
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
> To be clear, you mean he "lived it" in terms of school. His "authority"Right, I meant for dads who are resistant to hsing in general.
> comes from being a teacher for many many years. He hasn't had anything
> to do with unschooling and is not at all an authority on unschooling.
>
< Good for dads who don't have the inclination to read a lot -
the book is a series of essays and they can get the main points even if
they only read a couple of them.>
Exactly, when I got DH to read this he wasn't a big reader. (He is now, go
figure)
Laura
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