Live and Learn 2004 Talent Show/developing talents
Elizabeth Roberts
I was just at the webpage for the Conference next August refreshing my memory of the cost so that I can plan for it...and as I reread through everything, I picked up on the fact that there will be a Talent Show. Is this just for the children or is it anyone who'd like to perform?
I just had a good conversation with Sarah. Right away when I told her about it she got excited and started yammering about dancing or something, but she's NOT a dancer. I said that I didn't think dancing would be a good idea, and she started to get upset. I said "Now hold on. I'm not saying you can't be in the talent show. I know you just want to show everyone how special you are. But when do you really dance? Would that really be the best way to show your special-ness? What might be a really really good way to show that?"
We thought for a couple minutes about just what she likes to do and I remembered how much she enjoys memorizing her Bible verses for AWANAs. She has a great memory, and enjoys being on stage as well. She has been in a production of "The Frog Prince" and a couple of small skits through our church. So I suggested that she memorize and recite a poem or something. She's very excited about the opportunity, and so am I.
It's exciting to watch her beginning to blossom with this aspect of herself..the acting/reciting part. She's always had a great imagination and ability to fully immerse herself in "playing pretend." I didn't become interested in theater until high school, my thing was always just music. But I do enjoy it.
MamaBeth
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I just had a good conversation with Sarah. Right away when I told her about it she got excited and started yammering about dancing or something, but she's NOT a dancer. I said that I didn't think dancing would be a good idea, and she started to get upset. I said "Now hold on. I'm not saying you can't be in the talent show. I know you just want to show everyone how special you are. But when do you really dance? Would that really be the best way to show your special-ness? What might be a really really good way to show that?"
We thought for a couple minutes about just what she likes to do and I remembered how much she enjoys memorizing her Bible verses for AWANAs. She has a great memory, and enjoys being on stage as well. She has been in a production of "The Frog Prince" and a couple of small skits through our church. So I suggested that she memorize and recite a poem or something. She's very excited about the opportunity, and so am I.
It's exciting to watch her beginning to blossom with this aspect of herself..the acting/reciting part. She's always had a great imagination and ability to fully immerse herself in "playing pretend." I didn't become interested in theater until high school, my thing was always just music. But I do enjoy it.
MamaBeth
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In a message dated 1/8/2004 9:07:30 PM Mountain Standard Time,
mamabethuscg@... writes:
-=-But when do you really dance? Would that really be the best way to show
your special-ness? What might be a really really good way to show that?" -=-
It's not a competition.
It's not a stock show.
Let her dance if she wants to!
It's a sharing of interests and "ta-daa!" opportunity to show something the
person thinks is cool.
It wasn't just for kids last year. I wish there had been more adults in it,
but there were a few.
Sandra
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mamabethuscg@... writes:
-=-But when do you really dance? Would that really be the best way to show
your special-ness? What might be a really really good way to show that?" -=-
It's not a competition.
It's not a stock show.
Let her dance if she wants to!
It's a sharing of interests and "ta-daa!" opportunity to show something the
person thinks is cool.
It wasn't just for kids last year. I wish there had been more adults in it,
but there were a few.
Sandra
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Elizabeth Roberts
I realize that it's not a competition, just for the fun of it. But she doesn't dance. She'd be up on stage with music just moving around..it'd be embarassing. Ok..maybe not for her, but it would for me. And while maybe not for her...I doubt she'd come off the stage and nobody have laughed at her. People can be cruel and no offense but I don't know a darn person who would be there. You can tell me that nobody there would do that...but how do I really know that?
I didn't remind her of the way she was teased at a dance she went to, where I just let her go and do her own thing like she had just talk about doing. She was hurt, and I hurt for her.
I'll think about it some more though.But I'd rather she slow down and really look at all of the possibilities of what she can do, and do well, rather than doing something simply for the sake of doing something which is where I think this idea came from.
MamaBeth
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/8/2004 9:07:30 PM Mountain Standard Time,
mamabethuscg@... writes:
-=-But when do you really dance? Would that really be the best way to show
your special-ness? What might be a really really good way to show that?" -=-
It's not a competition.
It's not a stock show.
Let her dance if she wants to!
It's a sharing of interests and "ta-daa!" opportunity to show something the
person thinks is cool.
It wasn't just for kids last year. I wish there had been more adults in it,
but there were a few.
Sandra
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I didn't remind her of the way she was teased at a dance she went to, where I just let her go and do her own thing like she had just talk about doing. She was hurt, and I hurt for her.
I'll think about it some more though.But I'd rather she slow down and really look at all of the possibilities of what she can do, and do well, rather than doing something simply for the sake of doing something which is where I think this idea came from.
MamaBeth
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In a message dated 1/8/2004 9:07:30 PM Mountain Standard Time,
mamabethuscg@... writes:
-=-But when do you really dance? Would that really be the best way to show
your special-ness? What might be a really really good way to show that?" -=-
It's not a competition.
It's not a stock show.
Let her dance if she wants to!
It's a sharing of interests and "ta-daa!" opportunity to show something the
person thinks is cool.
It wasn't just for kids last year. I wish there had been more adults in it,
but there were a few.
Sandra
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TreeGoddess
On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:43 PM, Elizabeth Roberts wrote:
their parent? Embrace her style and let her fling her arms wide as she
twirls around.
whole lot of anything. LOL What's wrong with doing something for the
sake of doing it?
-Tracy-
> I realize that it's not a competition, just for the fun of it. But sheWhy should a child dancing for the sheer joy of it be embarrassing to
> doesn't dance. She'd be up on stage with music just moving
> around..it'd be embarassing. Ok..maybe not for her, but it would for
> me.
their parent? Embrace her style and let her fling her arms wide as she
twirls around.
> But I'd rather she slow down and really look at all of theIf I never did anything that I wasn't good at doing I may not do a
> possibilities of what she can do, and do well, rather than doing
> something simply for the sake of doing something which is where I
> think this idea came from.
whole lot of anything. LOL What's wrong with doing something for the
sake of doing it?
-Tracy-
Jon and Rue Kream
>>I doubt she'd come off the stage and nobody have laughed at her.**At last year's conference my daughter Rowan was six years old. She is
normally not comfortable in large groups, but she felt very much at home
surrounded by all those unschoolers, and told us she was going to do an
act by herself in the talent show. She worked all day on her
performance, got up on stage, and did a juggling act. With one ball.
She got a huge round of applause, and left the stage glowing with pride.
I think you'll be happily surprised by the group of people you are going
to meet this summer. You'll meet people who believe in dancing for the
joy of it. ~Rue
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pam sorooshian
On Jan 8, 2004, at 8:43 PM, Elizabeth Roberts wrote:
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> People can be cruel and no offense but I don't know a darn person whoYou are in for the surprise of your life at that conference.
> would be there. You can tell me that nobody there would do that...but
> how do I really know that?
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Robyn Coburn
I cannot express adequately just how wrong you are about this particular
Talent show. I was there and please believe me, the level of support is so
loving and the only laughing is when people are being intentionally funny
and cute. Nor would she be the only inexperienced individual trying out a
new skill in performance. Also the show is at the end, and you will know
everyone who you have been communing with on this list by then. I kept
bursting into tears every time I met someone from the list, and no one
laughed at me!
Robyn L. Coburn
<<I realize that it's not a competition, just for the fun of it. But she
doesn't dance. She'd be up on stage with music just moving around..it'd be
embarassing. Ok..maybe not for her, but it would for me. And while maybe not
for her...I doubt she'd come off the stage and nobody have laughed at her.
People can be cruel and no offense but I don't know a darn person who would
be there. You can tell me that nobody there would do that...but how do I
really know that?>>
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Talent show. I was there and please believe me, the level of support is so
loving and the only laughing is when people are being intentionally funny
and cute. Nor would she be the only inexperienced individual trying out a
new skill in performance. Also the show is at the end, and you will know
everyone who you have been communing with on this list by then. I kept
bursting into tears every time I met someone from the list, and no one
laughed at me!
Robyn L. Coburn
<<I realize that it's not a competition, just for the fun of it. But she
doesn't dance. She'd be up on stage with music just moving around..it'd be
embarassing. Ok..maybe not for her, but it would for me. And while maybe not
for her...I doubt she'd come off the stage and nobody have laughed at her.
People can be cruel and no offense but I don't know a darn person who would
be there. You can tell me that nobody there would do that...but how do I
really know that?>>
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Stepheny
I have to say that the one thing I loved about the Live and Learn Conference,, well not the only thing, but the way everyone just respects their children and everyone elses too. It was a lovely talent show. If I could go which I'm not sure I can (and we are disappointed) I would get up and do something for the talent show this year, maybe dance ( I can't) or sing Yikes! Seriously, Let her dance, it would be such a blessing! I remember the juggling act... so wonderful. Stepheny
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In a message dated 1/8/04 11:07:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mamabethuscg@... writes:
Just my opinion.
Pam G
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mamabethuscg@... writes:
> I just had a good conversation with Sarah. Right away when I told her aboutI think the poem sounds great but the dancing sounds fabulous too.
> it she got excited and started yammering about dancing or something, but
> she's NOT a dancer. I said that I didn't think dancing would be a good idea, and
> she started to get upset. I said "Now hold on. I'm not saying you can't be
> in the talent show. I know you just want to show everyone how special you are.
> But when do you really dance? Would that really be the best way to show your
> special-ness? What might be a really really good way to show that?"
>
>
Just my opinion.
Pam G
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Elizabeth Roberts
Like I said..I'll think on it more...
MamaBeth
TreeGoddess <treegoddess@...> wrote:
MamaBeth
TreeGoddess <treegoddess@...> wrote:
On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:43 PM, Elizabeth Roberts wrote:
> I realize that it's not a competition, just for the fun of it. But she
> doesn't dance. She'd be up on stage with music just moving
> around..it'd be embarassing. Ok..maybe not for her, but it would for
> me.
Why should a child dancing for the sheer joy of it be embarrassing to
their parent? Embrace her style and let her fling her arms wide as she
twirls around.
> But I'd rather she slow down and really look at all of the
> possibilities of what she can do, and do well, rather than doing
> something simply for the sake of doing something which is where I
> think this idea came from.
If I never did anything that I wasn't good at doing I may not do a
whole lot of anything. LOL What's wrong with doing something for the
sake of doing it?
-Tracy-
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Elizabeth Roberts
It's not that I am against dancing for joy...not at all..it's just the fact that I want to save her from any potential embarassment....
I'm so glad to hear that your daughter's performance was so well-received, that does ease my mind tremendously.
I'll talk to her and see what she really wants to do.
MamaBeth
Jon and Rue Kream <skreams@...> wrote:
normally not comfortable in large groups, but she felt very much at home
surrounded by all those unschoolers, and told us she was going to do an
act by herself in the talent show. She worked all day on her
performance, got up on stage, and did a juggling act. With one ball.
She got a huge round of applause, and left the stage glowing with pride.
I think you'll be happily surprised by the group of people you are going
to meet this summer. You'll meet people who believe in dancing for the
joy of it. ~Rue
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I'm so glad to hear that your daughter's performance was so well-received, that does ease my mind tremendously.
I'll talk to her and see what she really wants to do.
MamaBeth
Jon and Rue Kream <skreams@...> wrote:
>>I doubt she'd come off the stage and nobody have laughed at her.**At last year's conference my daughter Rowan was six years old. She is
normally not comfortable in large groups, but she felt very much at home
surrounded by all those unschoolers, and told us she was going to do an
act by herself in the talent show. She worked all day on her
performance, got up on stage, and did a juggling act. With one ball.
She got a huge round of applause, and left the stage glowing with pride.
I think you'll be happily surprised by the group of people you are going
to meet this summer. You'll meet people who believe in dancing for the
joy of it. ~Rue
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In a message dated 1/9/2004 2:57:58 AM Central Standard Time,
dezigna@... writes:
whatever I can to go. My 16yros has wanted to be in a talent sho for a long
time.
Laura Buoni
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dezigna@... writes:
> I cannot express adequately just how wrong you are about this particularWow!! I have only been on this list a few days but I am sold, I intend to do
> Talent show. I was there and please believe me, the level of support is so
> loving and the only laughing is when people are being intentionally funny
> and cute. Nor would she be the only inexperienced individual trying out a
> new skill in performance. Also the show is at the end, and you will know
> everyone who you have been communing with on this list by then. I kept
> bursting into tears every time I met someone from the list, and no one
> laughed at me!
>
whatever I can to go. My 16yros has wanted to be in a talent sho for a long
time.
Laura Buoni
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<< > People can be cruel and no offense but I don't know a darn person who
I can't tell you that nobody there would do that.
You can only REALLY know what you've experienced and thought about and tried
to understand, and if you've experienced people telling other people not to
dance, that's a kind of negativity you need to avoid. And if you're the one
bringing that into the situation, try to stop doing it.
One of the worst obstacles to unschooling working is that cynicism and
negativity that discourages people from trying things, or makes fun of them when
they do try.
It's not common among unschooling families. The conference is not likely to
have much, if any, of that attitude.
Sandra
> would be there. You can tell me that nobody there would do that...butI don't know that many of them.
> how do I really know that? >>
I can't tell you that nobody there would do that.
You can only REALLY know what you've experienced and thought about and tried
to understand, and if you've experienced people telling other people not to
dance, that's a kind of negativity you need to avoid. And if you're the one
bringing that into the situation, try to stop doing it.
One of the worst obstacles to unschooling working is that cynicism and
negativity that discourages people from trying things, or makes fun of them when
they do try.
It's not common among unschooling families. The conference is not likely to
have much, if any, of that attitude.
Sandra