One of the Wechts

Hi all,
We recently gave our daughter a walkman for her Bday. She also received a compact TV/VHS combo that we can use for travel. She loves to sing along to the music. She often sits and colors (most recently she is into those black velvet posters) while watching/listening. I am looking for ideas for her for Xmas. So far she has and enjoys Sound of Music, JC Superstar, Westside Story and a variety of Disney flicks (Lion King, Mary Poppins to name a few). Any "less common" good ones you can reccommend would be apprecitated. Sandra, she reminds me a little of your descriptions of Holly. She is a Simpsons fan too, not reading yet, and seems theatrically bent. Right now she has her beanies doing dance routines to Veggietales Sillysongs.
Thanks for any ideas,
Beth in MD

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One of the Wechts

Hi all,
We recently gave our daughter a walkman for her Bday. She also received a compact TV/VHS combo that we can use for travel. She loves to sing along to the music. She often sits and colors (most recently she is into those black velvet posters) while watching/listening. I am looking for ideas for her for Xmas. So far she has and enjoys Sound of Music, JC Superstar, Westside Story and a variety of Disney flicks (Lion King, Mary Poppins to name a few). Any "less common" good ones you can reccommend would be apprecitated. Sandra, she reminds me a little of your descriptions of Holly. She is a Simpsons fan too, not reading yet, and seems theatrically bent. Right now she has her beanies doing dance routines to Veggietales Sillysongs.
Thanks for any ideas,
Beth in MD

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Hi - I just asked my singing, dancing, theatrically VERY bent <chuckle>
13-year-old dd for her advice. She heartily approves of what you already
have, and suggests for soundtrack CDsyou move next to the Music Man, the Scarlet
Pimpernel (the musical soundtrack, not the old b&w movie) any of the Peter
Pans or the Cinderellas (there are many), Bye Bye Birdie, Singing in the Rain,
Annie, Oliver! and Camelot (kings, queens and knights in shining armor!) .

Also there are Broadway CDs that feature kids' favorite numbers such
as "Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better" that are fun to sing with, even
without seeing the whole show of Annie Get Your Gun.

Your dd at 8 may not be quite ready yet but not doubt soon will be,
for "Into the Woods" by Stephen Sondheim with all all the fairy tale characters
and amazing theatre music and lyrics. (Rent or buy the VHS of the whole play
with Bernadette Peters first, so she can "see" the soundtrack in context.)

There are old movie musicals with wonderful holiday classics she might
like, such as Bing Crosby in White Christmas and Holiday Inn. The newer Mrs.
Santa Clause with Angela Lansbury has catchy Christmas songs and feel-good
ensemble choreography. The animated Muppet Christmas Carol does too.

Also here's a thought -- Cats could be fun for Christmas gifting. To
along along with this, you could do the poetry the theatre version was based
on, by getting her TS Eliot's "Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats", maybe in
illustrated form. There is a really beautiful children's picture book with three
poems excerpted from these lyrical poems that we all love (my dd went to
fetch it and is holding it as I write) -- "Growltiger's Last Stand and Other
Poems." It also includes the Pekes and the Pollicles and the Song of the Jellicles,
published by Sunburst.

scott-wecht@... writes:


> Hi all,
> We recently gave our daughter a walkman for her Bday. She also received a
> compact TV/VHS combo that we can use for travel. She loves to sing along to
> the music. She often sits and colors (most recently she is into those black
> velvet posters) while watching/listening. I am looking for ideas for her for
> Xmas. So far she has and enjoys Sound of Music, JC Superstar, Westside Story
> and a variety of Disney flicks (Lion King, Mary Poppins to name a few). Any
> "less common" good ones you can reccommend would be apprecitated. Sandra, she
> reminds me a little of your descriptions of Holly. She is a Simpsons fan
> too, not reading yet, and seems theatrically bent. Right now she has her
> beanies doing dance routines to Veggietales Sillysongs.
> Thanks for any ideas,
> Beth in MD
>



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jrossedd@... writes:


> The animated Muppet Christmas Carol does too.
>

Sorry - this was confusing. Although the muppets are "animated"
meaning that the are made to appear to move themselves <g> this is a live-action
movie, not a cartoon. Michael Caine plays Ebenezer Scrooge.


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In a message dated 11/12/03 9:17:40 AM, scott-wecht@... writes:

<< Sandra, she reminds me a little of your descriptions of Holly. She is a
Simpsons fan too, not reading yet, and seems theatrically bent. Right now she
has her beanies doing dance routines to Veggietales Sillysongs. >>

Sounds quite like Holly for sure!

Kids can know TONS of lyrics and plots and idiomatic English before they
read, and it just makes reading easier that they're reading things that already
make sense to them. I feel sorry for those readers who learn to read at five or
six and are limited to just first-grade-level stuff. When kids read later,
they can start right at harder things. (I know some younger kids bypass
baby-readers too, but my kids all read things written for teens and adults when they
could first read, and it just seemed to make so much more sense.

Sorry I changed the subject. <g>

Holly has three Simpsons CDs. "Simpsons Sing the Blues" (which we had for
years on a casette tape and she got a CD later), Songs in the Key of
Springfield, and another one. We got them used from Amazon. The first is not stuff
from the show. It's fun, though. The other two are good parts from the program,
sometimes full things, and sometimes just snippets, like special music for
the credits. It has the things from the musicals on Simpsons, though, like the
musical Planet of the Apes, the songs from the show when they're saving the
whorehouse, when Sideshow Bob sang "all ofHMS Pinafore" at Bart's request, etc.
It has the "Canyonero" commercial, one of the funniest things--a commercial
for a pickup truck, done as cowboy music, all intense with a bass voice...
I'll look for the lyrics.

My kids liked Raffi (there are two videos), and Disney singalong stuff, when
they were younger than eight, and when they were eight, and ten... <g>

Holly likes Cyndi Lauper. There's a DVD called Twelve Deadly Cyns, with
videos and commentary. There is "adult subject matter" on "Sally's Pigeons,"
about a teenaged girl who gets pregnant and dies from a back alley abortion,
though it's so subtly presented Holly had to ask what it was about. Musically and
artistically, though, it's stunningly good. Holly discovered that stuff when
she was ten and is twelve now.

Pam Sorooshian introduced us to Dar Williams, and Holly has two of her CDs.

All my kids like old rock'n'roll stuff from the 60's, and we've made several
home-made compilations, and I bought a couple of mailorder ones where you
choose your own songs and the order of them and they make you a CD. Some people
can do that themselves now with their computers. I still can't. I got Holly
a CD of stuff from the 1930's from one of those places. She really liked Fred
Astaire.

Beatles?

Sandra

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Abba Gold
(thinking of more things Holly has liked)

Holly thinks Man of La Mancha is a good singing along tape, she says, but the
old one was not in the order of the movie. There's a new one that's the
current New York cast.

She said she liked the CD of Annie Get You Gun with Bernadette Peters before
she ever knew the story or a movie version. It's not the same as the movie
version.

Canyonero lyrics (though of course it's much funnier with the music and
whip-cracking background sounds and "yee haws"):


Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..

Canyonero! Canyonero!

Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!

Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!

Canyonero!

Twelve yards long, two lanes wide,
65 tons of American Pride!

Canyonero! Canyonero!

Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts

Canyonero! Canyonero! (Yah!)

She blinds everybody with her super high beams,
She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine,

Canyonero! Canyonero!

Drive Canyonero!

TreeGoddess

One of the Wechts wrote:

>We recently gave our daughter a walkman for her Bday. She also received a compact TV/VHS combo that we can use for travel. She loves to sing along to the music. <snip> Thanks for any ideas
>

Annie
The Parent Trap (from the 60's with Haley Mills)
Grease?
Emmet Otter's Jug-Band Christmas (I still sit down to watch this!) - A
Jim Henson movie

We have a couple of fantastic CDs that are part story and part song that
we all love to listen to in the car.

My favorite is called "Seal Maiden: A Celtic Musical" and it's folk
story about a Selkie that _The Secret of Roan Inish_ movie was based
on.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004TZYF/qid=1068677832/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/102-0638842-1234500?v=glance&s=music&n=507846

We also really love "Gift Of The Tortoise: A Musical Journey Through
Southern Africa"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002M6S/ref=m_art_li_13/102-0638842-1234500?v=glance&s=music

This one is good too, but it's not the kids' favorite one: "Smilin'
Island of Song" that features Cedella Marley Booker (Bob's Mama)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002M5U/ref=m_art_li_31/102-0638842-1234500?v=glance&s=music

You can view the whole line of Music for Little People at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/glance/-/73964/ref=m_art_dp/102-0638842-1234500
Although there are quite a few titles that say "toddler" in them we have
not found them to be at all too "babyish". We haven't bought anything
with children singing the songs either though so I don't know about
those ones.

HTH TreeGoddess

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In a message dated 11/12/2003 2:42:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:


> All my kids like old rock'n'roll stuff from the 60's, and we've made
> several
> home-made compilations, and I bought a couple of mailorder ones where you
> choose your own songs and the order of them and they make you a CD. Some
> people
> can do that themselves now with their computers. I still can't. I got
> Holly
> a CD of stuff from the 1930's from one of those places. She really liked
> Fred
> Astaire.
>
> Beatles?
>

Oh yeah!! If we're going THERE, then absolutely. When she's not
singing show tunes, my 13-year-old is totally Beatles and Grease-era, even Leslie
Gore (It's My Party) -- it's become part of her identity with her dance friends.
She is a Paul Girl. (Do and of you guys here remember when we'd reveal our
favorite Beatle instead of our sign of the Zodiac, and people thought that was
all they needed to know to know us?)


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v_malott

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>> Kids can know TONS of lyrics and plots and idiomatic English
before they read, and it just makes reading easier that they're
reading things that already make sense to them.

That reminds me of my son learning to count past 10 when he was about
4. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out WHY he would only count
to 39. Then, while we were watching JC Superstar for what seemed
like the thousandth time, it clicked. There is a scene where Pilate
is having JC flogged and he counts....you guessed it...to 39!

Valerie in OH

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In a message dated 11/13/03 6:30:58 AM, vmalott@... writes:

<< That reminds me of my son learning to count past 10 when he was about

4. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out WHY he would only count

to 39. Then, while we were watching JC Superstar for what seemed

like the thousandth time, it clicked. There is a scene where Pilate

is having JC flogged and he counts....you guessed it...to 39! >>

When my kids were little they hadn't seen that part of the movie. That one
got paused and a forward wind while the kids were in the kitchen getting juice
or something during that scene. And Tony and Maria used to be presumed to
have lived happily ever after, until one day I walked into the living room from
having been working on something in the bedrooms and I saw Marty and Holly
staring at the TV with an intensity I had never seen, and there was Maria, with
Chino's gun, crying, threatening the neighborhood. DAMN IT!!!

Later there was a Friends' episode where Phoebe merrily told her friends how
many times she had seen Old Yeller and Bambi, and what happy movies they were,
all smiley. Her mom had done what I did, only her (fictional) mom was
better at it than I had been.

I used to let the crucifixion run because they knew about that anyway, but
the flogging was just too much for me, so I figured it would be too much for
them.

By the way, I really love the newer video of Jesus Christ Superstar, with
Jerome Pradon as Judas. WOW.

Was Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat on that list of stuff for a
kid? The video has the best narrator, but there's a CD which also has Donny
Osmond and it's my favorite of the three I've heard, though the narrator is not
as glorious.

Sandra