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In a message dated 1/11/2003 6:34:41 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

> Huh? How could a teacher afford to pay $700 a month to the union? Is that
> right?
>
> Joyce

Joyce, I am not sure.... I thought about that too.....
I know my hubby has $50 taken out of his check every month and I am ticked
off about that because they do not do a darn thing!!!!!
I feel that there is no way that teacher coudl afford that......isn't the
starting salary around $20,000 something? Depending on the area of course.

Kim


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Heather Hall

Hi there! been gone for awhile, back for another dose ;)

I had a great geometry teacher who helped me make my pattern for my prom
dress. I had independent art study and that was my project, I drew a
picture of the dress I wanted and made the whole pattern from scratch, which
I had done on *simple* things, but not in a victorian gown with all kinds of
details ;) She helped me figure out how to do some math to get the answers
I needed. I ended up getting credit for both classes. It was a very cool
end to my schooling. Up to then I felt pretty inadequate in school.
We love Stanley too, by the way.



>
> There were a few who WOULD talk about things. Music teachers. Art
> teachers.
> A couple of my English teachers were thrilled by a good question and would
> actually talk about things I didn't need to know because they wouldn't "be
> on
> the test." But I never personally remember a science teacher or math or
> history who would. If you knew their hobby or personal passion, you might
> get them
> going for a little bit.

--
Heather, mom to
Harriet 12.15.99
Crispin 01.25.02
heatherette@...

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In a message dated 6/17/04 8:46:53 AM, Heatherette@... writes:

<< I had a great geometry teacher who helped me make my pattern for my prom
dress. I had independent art study and that was my project, I drew a
picture of the dress I wanted and made the whole pattern from scratch, which
I had done on *simple* things, but not in a victorian gown with all kinds of
details ;) She helped me figure out how to do some math to get the answers
I needed. I ended up getting credit for both classes. It was a very cool
end to my schooling. Up to then I felt pretty inadequate in school. >>

This is so cool.
I hope someday kids have access to people who can help them do things like
that but that they're not expected to attend 180 days of a pre-decided set of
lessons in exchange for the occasional thrilling personal attention.

If schools were more like... like I don't know what. Like the most glorious
fantasy scout-jamboree, and a historical re-creation museum and a fair. If
there were scheduled activities that anyone could go to, adult or child, and
they were fun ways to make connections with others of similar interests, that
would be SO COOL!

There are astronomy times/places where an observatory is open (at the museum,
or the university, here) and people can go to see something specific. That's
fun. But kids who go to school tend to avoid it because it seems schoolish.
It's almost as though some of them (lots?) spite their teachers by refusing
to do anything that might remotely make the teacher happy if he found out about
it.

But the sparkly times are great.
I had lots of them, in school. Not as big a project as the prom dress story,
though, which is wonderful.

Sandra

Kristi

> If schools were more like... like I don't know what. Like the
most glorious
> fantasy scout-jamboree, and a historical re-creation museum and a
fair. If
> there were scheduled activities that anyone could go to, adult or
child, and
> they were fun ways to make connections with others of similar
interests, that
> would be SO COOL!


They are out there ... schools like Summerhill and Sudbury Valley.

Kristi

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In a message dated 7/4/2004 11:16:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
hayes@... writes:
They are out there ... schools like Summerhill and Sudbury Valley.

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Don't forget Clonlara!


Linda S.


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In a message dated 7/4/04 9:16:09 AM, hayes@... writes:

<< They are out there ... schools like Summerhill and Sudbury Valley. >>

But those are for the students, run by the students.

I mean if an archeologist ran a session every week for whoever wanted to come
and see the news in archeology or to examine some new artifact brought for
the day, and ANYONE could come and see, but didn't have to stay if it wasn't
fun. No commitment to come daily or even monthly. Available, exciting,
short-term, fun sessions.

Sandra

Ali Kat

>>>I mean if an archeologist ran a session every week for whoever wanted
to come and see the news in archeology or to examine some new artifact brought
for the day, and ANYONE could come and see, but didn't have to stay if it
wasn't fun. No commitment to come daily or even monthly. Available,
exciting, short-term, fun sessions.

Sandra>>>>

Check your local community colleges. Our local college has an archaeological dig site right on campus and welcomed community invovlement and participation in all aspects from the actual dig to the washing, prepping, and cataloging of artifacts - you didn't have to be enrolled to participate either. Surely there are other opportunitites available, or at least the professors may be able to point you to available opportunities that may be hard for the general public to discover.

Alicia


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[email protected]

**They are out there ... schools like Summerhill and Sudbury Valley.**

Except that even then the kids don't get any choice about whether or not they
will attend at all. It's hard to be completely free in a place you're
compelled to be.

Deborah in IL


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Have a Nice Day!

Our local sudbury school (The Circle School) also must abide by Compulsary attendance, but they will at least let the kids choose what time of day and how long each day they are there.

Kristen
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**They are out there ... schools like Summerhill and Sudbury Valley.**

Except that even then the kids don't get any choice about whether or not they
will attend at all. It's hard to be completely free in a place you're
compelled to be.

Deborah in IL


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