food limits question
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I've read so many recommendations to eliminate food limits for kids so they can learn to monitor their own intake, but what do parents of children with health concerns do this?
How do families who deal with diabetes and spiking blood sugar on a regular basis handle this? Even 10 cookies is sometimes enough to cause problems, depending on the type of cookie/icing, etc., and the reaction is often fast and unexpected, so the child doesn't really feel "sick" until about 30 seconds before he falls out, so he doesn't associate feeling ill with the cookies.
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How do families who deal with diabetes and spiking blood sugar on a regular basis handle this? Even 10 cookies is sometimes enough to cause problems, depending on the type of cookie/icing, etc., and the reaction is often fast and unexpected, so the child doesn't really feel "sick" until about 30 seconds before he falls out, so he doesn't associate feeling ill with the cookies.
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Sandra Dodd
On Dec 22, 2005, at 8:31 AM, leobellalace@... wrote:
The recommendation is for the parents to really examine their
limiting and their scheduling and to realize fully the problems
arbitrary (VERY IMPORTANT, that "arbitrary") rules and schedules
will cause. Not might cause, but DO cause.
Saying yes one more time, and then yes again, and "okay" and "sure"
is way better than once declaring "NO LIMITS," because that sounds
like the parent doesn't care. Instead of hundreds of smiling
"Okay!"s you get one big "whatever."
-=-How do families who deal with diabetes and spiking blood sugar on
a regular basis handle this? Even 10 cookies is sometimes enough to
cause problems, depending on the type of cookie/icing, etc.,-=-
"Even ten"?
Not one of my children has ever eaten ten cookies in a row, or even
ten on a day.
Are you being hypothetical, or do you really have a child who has or
would or longs to eat ten cookies?
Don't have cookies with icing, if that's going to be a problem. We
don't even frost cakes here, usually. Just the cake might be made,
and people will eat it with ice cream, or eat it as they might fruit
bread.
There are ways to say yes. If you're at a party and there are
frosted Christmas cookies, you could say "yes" up to the limit that
it seemed like more than the kid's share, or past courtesy, and then
explain that taking too many isn't polite; or if there ARE lots,
maybe say "Let's take one home for later." That's another "yes":
later.
http://sandradodd.com/joyce/yes
I'm confident that the reason my children don't scarf cookies is that
they're just available things, not big-deal things. I made chocolate
chip cookies a couple of days ago. When they were hot, other teens
came and ate some. An adult visitor came by and was given some to
take home. There are two dozen in a clear plastic container, still
there. It's not that they're not good, either. <g> I ground the
pecans up because Marty and Holly have braces, but Holly doesn't like
the cookies without pecans.
If I counted and limited, they'd probably all be gone.
Sandra
> I've read so many recommendations to eliminate food limits for kids"ELIMINATE LIMITS" is so harsh, like "NO BEDTIMES."
> so they can learn to monitor their own intake, but what do parents
> of children with health concerns do this?
The recommendation is for the parents to really examine their
limiting and their scheduling and to realize fully the problems
arbitrary (VERY IMPORTANT, that "arbitrary") rules and schedules
will cause. Not might cause, but DO cause.
Saying yes one more time, and then yes again, and "okay" and "sure"
is way better than once declaring "NO LIMITS," because that sounds
like the parent doesn't care. Instead of hundreds of smiling
"Okay!"s you get one big "whatever."
-=-How do families who deal with diabetes and spiking blood sugar on
a regular basis handle this? Even 10 cookies is sometimes enough to
cause problems, depending on the type of cookie/icing, etc.,-=-
"Even ten"?
Not one of my children has ever eaten ten cookies in a row, or even
ten on a day.
Are you being hypothetical, or do you really have a child who has or
would or longs to eat ten cookies?
Don't have cookies with icing, if that's going to be a problem. We
don't even frost cakes here, usually. Just the cake might be made,
and people will eat it with ice cream, or eat it as they might fruit
bread.
There are ways to say yes. If you're at a party and there are
frosted Christmas cookies, you could say "yes" up to the limit that
it seemed like more than the kid's share, or past courtesy, and then
explain that taking too many isn't polite; or if there ARE lots,
maybe say "Let's take one home for later." That's another "yes":
later.
http://sandradodd.com/joyce/yes
I'm confident that the reason my children don't scarf cookies is that
they're just available things, not big-deal things. I made chocolate
chip cookies a couple of days ago. When they were hot, other teens
came and ate some. An adult visitor came by and was given some to
take home. There are two dozen in a clear plastic container, still
there. It's not that they're not good, either. <g> I ground the
pecans up because Marty and Holly have braces, but Holly doesn't like
the cookies without pecans.
If I counted and limited, they'd probably all be gone.
Sandra
Deb
--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd
<Sandra@S...> wrote:
had her traditional basket o' goodies there - she makes up little
packets of Hershey's kisses, maybe a candy cane, other holiday type
treats and sets them in a basket near the door for each person to
take a packet. Nice holiday thing. DS got his little packet, I had
one, DH had one, many other people had one. A friend went to get one
for herself and found two boys (similar ages to DS) contemplating
how to grab as many as would fit in their pockets. She came back
from that encounter and, casual jokingly (DS has known her since he
was about 18 months old) she asked DS for one of his candies. He
loked in his packet and pulled out a Kiss and handed it to her and
roamed off to munch the rest of his packet. No fuss no muss. She
commented on the contrast between the two who were trying to get as
much as they could carry and DS who handed over a piece of candy
without a whinge (and no requirement to either - he could have said
No if he chose). I said Well, he knows that if he wants more Kisses,
and we've got the funds in the budget, he can have as many more as
he wants. No feeling of lack, giving out of a life of abundance
instead.
--Deb
<Sandra@S...> wrote:
>Related story from this past weekend. On Sunday, the preacher's wife
> If I counted and limited, they'd probably all be gone.
>
> Sandra
>
had her traditional basket o' goodies there - she makes up little
packets of Hershey's kisses, maybe a candy cane, other holiday type
treats and sets them in a basket near the door for each person to
take a packet. Nice holiday thing. DS got his little packet, I had
one, DH had one, many other people had one. A friend went to get one
for herself and found two boys (similar ages to DS) contemplating
how to grab as many as would fit in their pockets. She came back
from that encounter and, casual jokingly (DS has known her since he
was about 18 months old) she asked DS for one of his candies. He
loked in his packet and pulled out a Kiss and handed it to her and
roamed off to munch the rest of his packet. No fuss no muss. She
commented on the contrast between the two who were trying to get as
much as they could carry and DS who handed over a piece of candy
without a whinge (and no requirement to either - he could have said
No if he chose). I said Well, he knows that if he wants more Kisses,
and we've got the funds in the budget, he can have as many more as
he wants. No feeling of lack, giving out of a life of abundance
instead.
--Deb
queenjane555
>Buy or make sugar-free/low carb cookies? My mom is diabetic, and so
> How do families who deal with diabetes and spiking blood sugar on
>a regular basis handle this? Even 10 cookies is sometimes enough
>to cause problems, depending on the type of cookie/icing, etc., and
>the reaction is often fast and unexpected, so the child doesn't
>really feel "sick" until about 30 seconds before he falls out, so
>he doesn't associate feeling ill with the cookies.
we try to be careful about the amount of carbs and sugary stuff she
eats, but she still gets "sweet" stuff. We always have sugar-free
cookies on hand, which my son loves. You can bake your own with
Splenda too. How old is this child? If he is very young, and has a
medical problem, i wouldnt have loads of stuff he can't eat in the
house. If he is older, i would think communicating the issue with
him, explaining what is going on in his body, would help him make an
informed decision about what to eat. But still, in the end, it IS
his decision to make isnt it? You can't follow him his whole life
making sure he doesnt eat too many cookies.
Even though my mom is diabetic (type 2 i think? She takes
pills)...she still eats things that arent so great for her
occasionally, because the happiness it brings to her (like eating
fruitcake during the holidays, or cake on someone's birthday)is more
important than if her blood sugar goes up a few points.
But truly, if someone is a diabetic, there is low-sugar and low-carb
options with just about any food.
Katherine