myfunny4

My kids, dd-15 and ds-12, like to stay up until 11:00 p.m. or
midnight, and sleep until 9:00 a.m. or later. This is fine, and I'm
just glad they're getting enough sleep.

The problem is that I wake up early in the morning, between 5:00
a.m. and 6:00 a.m., and I need to go to sleep by 10:00 p.m.,
sometimes as early as 9:00 p.m. if we've had a really physically
active day.

Many times dd-R. and ds-R. want to start games or discussions, or
start watching a movie together (meaning with *me*) at 9:00 p.m.,
and I have such trouble concentrating. It disappoints them and me.

I've explained my sleep needs to R. and R., and I've asked that we
schedule stuff for earlier in the evening, but it seems that they
have a burst of energy right around 9:00 p.m., just as my energy is
sputtering to a stop.

I have the most energy early in the morning and throughout the
morning, and my kids have the opposite. Has anyone else experienced
this? How did you resolve it?

Thanks for any input.

Debbie

soggyboysmom

Would it be possible for you to nap in the afternoon or early
evening, since you know that at least for now the odds are that the
kids will be up later and would like your company?

Dana Matt

My kids both go to bed a lot later than I do. I am
ready to hit the hay at 10-11, and my 6 yo is at least
midnight, and my 12 yo is 2-3am. We just try to find
time during the day when all of us are awake and can
do something together. Yesterday my 12 yo didn't get
up until 1:30-2 in the afternoon, and then we had to
go to the chiropractor and the store, but when we got
home we had time to read together :) TODAY, though,
we are headed out to a homeschool rollerskating day,
and she has already popped her head out--and before 9
am!!

> Many times dd-R. and ds-R. want to start games or
> discussions, or
> start watching a movie together (meaning with *me*)
> at 9:00 p.m.,
> and I have such trouble concentrating. It
> disappoints them and me.

Can you start a game with them at 6 instead?
Dana

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In a message dated 12/8/2004 9:49:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Debbies4@... writes:

> Has anyone else experienced
> this? How did you resolve it?
>

This is so similar to my situation. My dd (15) stays up until 1:00 a.m. or
so reading and then gets up at 10 or 11 a.m. My ds (11) stays up until 12:00
usually and gets up a bit earlier around 9:30. I'm ready for bed at 10:00. If
I'm up at 11:00 p.m. they think its weird.

For us, we just know that our time is during the day. I'm available from
when they get up through early evening for pretty much anything they want. I
take them places,
we watch our favorite shows, we play games etc. If I do stay up late we
sometimes all watch a movie or play a game together. Mornings I have my time to
work out or get on the computer before they get up. It's been a gradual
process but it seems to be working out for everyone. I get my rest and they have
the evenings to do other things that interest them. I do miss some things but
they understand I'm in a much better frame of mind the next day if I've had the
sleep I need.

Sometimes we'll watch a movie the next day that they have already seen the
night before. They like watching it again and we still have time together just
not those late nights! My husband often stays up late with them if he's not
out of town on business.
He's one of those people who only needs 5 or 6 hours of sleep. I need my
9!!! :-)

Gail


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diana jenner

My son, Hayen (6) has taught me a whole new meaning to "night owl" -
both dh and myself have never adapted well to *normal* hours, so we
anticipated we'd have kids like us... Hayden LOVES staying up late, all
night sometimes. For a while (about a month) he would ask me at 1 am,
as I was trooping off to bed, to watch a movie with him. Every single
day, I found myself saying the exact same thing, "every single day you
wait until I'm going to bed to ask me to watch a movie, tomorrow ask me
at 9" and not very nicely, either :'( Then I realized he's only 6 and he
asks me when I'm ready for bed because that's when I seek him out and he
has my, even momentary, attention. So one day I sought HIM out at 11,
told him we'd watch a movie together THEN I'd go in my own bed. What a
happy compromise! I've not said that line again, he's not had to be sad
and missing his mama, and we get some time together. Hannah (8) is
happy to fall asleep between 10-11 and get up around 9 am; it's a sign
of their love when she is staying up really late with him [lately it's
been to do christmas letters while I'm not around] and truly enjoying it.
Last night, I pooped out at 12:30 and began "closing up" by turning off
extra lights, blowing out candles, etc... Hannah asked to have the
lights ON and as I breathed in for my speil, she stopped me by offering
to take care of the lights herself. They both came upstairs a few
minutes later, I heard all the lights turning off, they closed my
bedroom door and their own... Hannah came in to sleep with me an hour
later and it looks like Hayden fell asleep to Looney Tunes, Back in
Action <bg>
:) diana

myfunny4 wrote:

>
>My kids, dd-15 and ds-12, like to stay up until 11:00 p.m. or
>midnight, and sleep until 9:00 a.m. or later. This is fine, and I'm
>just glad they're getting enough sleep.
>
>The problem is that I wake up early in the morning, between 5:00
>a.m. and 6:00 a.m., and I need to go to sleep by 10:00 p.m.,
>sometimes as early as 9:00 p.m. if we've had a really physically
>active day.
>
>Many times dd-R. and ds-R. want to start games or discussions, or
>start watching a movie together (meaning with *me*) at 9:00 p.m.,
>and I have such trouble concentrating. It disappoints them and me.
>
>I've explained my sleep needs to R. and R., and I've asked that we
>schedule stuff for earlier in the evening, but it seems that they
>have a burst of energy right around 9:00 p.m., just as my energy is
>sputtering to a stop.
>
>I have the most energy early in the morning and throughout the
>morning, and my kids have the opposite. Has anyone else experienced
>this? How did you resolve it?
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>Debbie
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April M

I have experienced this...I'm quite convinced I'm the only morning person in
the house! My boys usually head up to bed around 10:00....which is when I'm
usually ready!! My body wakes up between 6:30 and 7:00 every morning
regardless of when I go to bed! And I have never been able to nap well. I
just don't function well much past 10:00....and would love a 9:00 bedtime.
My girls are never in bed before 12:00, often even later....my husband is
also a night-owl who is forced to get up for work in the morning....he can
get by on less sleep than I can. What we have done is compromise, they know
my wake/sleep cycle is just as natural for me as theirs is for them. I will
try to stay up later for them, thus I get to bed between 10:00 and 11:00
most nights and the kids will try to be awake by noon so we can all be awake
together. They don't expect me to engage in activities that require thought
or energy at night and I don't expect them to be up at 7:00 with me ready to
start the day.

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-----Original Message-----
From: myfunny4 [mailto:Debbies4@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Different sleep needs




My kids, dd-15 and ds-12, like to stay up until 11:00 p.m. or
midnight, and sleep until 9:00 a.m. or later. This is fine, and I'm
just glad they're getting enough sleep.

The problem is that I wake up early in the morning, between 5:00
a.m. and 6:00 a.m., and I need to go to sleep by 10:00 p.m.,
sometimes as early as 9:00 p.m. if we've had a really physically
active day.

Many times dd-R. and ds-R. want to start games or discussions, or
start watching a movie together (meaning with *me*) at 9:00 p.m.,
and I have such trouble concentrating. It disappoints them and me.

I've explained my sleep needs to R. and R., and I've asked that we
schedule stuff for earlier in the evening, but it seems that they
have a burst of energy right around 9:00 p.m., just as my energy is
sputtering to a stop.

I have the most energy early in the morning and throughout the
morning, and my kids have the opposite. Has anyone else experienced
this? How did you resolve it?

Thanks for any input.

Debbie









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myfunny4

Thanks for all the messages on this topic.

Today, I talked to dd and ds about some of the suggestions mentioned
here. As a side note, I talked to them shortly after they woke up
this morning, around 9:30 a.m. I had been up since 5:00 a.m., and I
had prayed/meditated, mixed up a batch of yogurt, checked computer
for the weather, news and email, walked 30 mins. on the treadmill,
showered, went to Mass, dropped a DVD off at Blockbuster, went to
the supermarket, and was back before they woke up. I told you I was
a morning person <g>.

Back to the kids...we agreed that if there were any games to play,
or movies to watch, or talks done best with our feet on the table
and a bowl of ice cream on our laps, then we would schedule them for
late afternoon, before suppertime. And that they wouldn't emit any
long, drawn out disappointed sighs of "well, okaaaaaay...." when I
was too tired in the evening to concentrate on Lord of the Rings
Trivial Pursuit.

Debbie

Heidi Here

mixed up a batch of yogurt

Hi, can you please tell me how you make your yogurt? do you have a machine?
thanks
Heidi
----- Original Message -----
From: myfunny4
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 8:44 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Different sleep needs




Thanks for all the messages on this topic.

Today, I talked to dd and ds about some of the suggestions mentioned
here. As a side note, I talked to them shortly after they woke up
this morning, around 9:30 a.m. I had been up since 5:00 a.m., and I
had prayed/meditated, mixed up a batch of yogurt, checked computer
for the weather, news and email, walked 30 mins. on the treadmill,
showered, went to Mass, dropped a DVD off at Blockbuster, went to
the supermarket, and was back before they woke up. I told you I was
a morning person <g>.

Back to the kids...we agreed that if there were any games to play,
or movies to watch, or talks done best with our feet on the table
and a bowl of ice cream on our laps, then we would schedule them for
late afternoon, before suppertime. And that they wouldn't emit any
long, drawn out disappointed sighs of "well, okaaaaaay...." when I
was too tired in the evening to concentrate on Lord of the Rings
Trivial Pursuit.

Debbie










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--- In [email protected], "Heidi Here"
<kleincrew@p...> wrote:
>
> Hi, can you please tell me how you make your yogurt? do you have a
machine?
> thanks
> Heidi

Hi Heidi,

I often use a yogurt starter called Yogourmet that I found at a
nearby health food store. But you really don't need a starter
culture or a machine. You can easily make your own yogurt using a
commercial brand yogurt as a starter. I've done this, and it makes
a fine yogurt, but a little on the thin side. I use the recipe and
instructions from "The Encyclopedia of Country Living" by Carla
Emery.

Start by pasteurizing one quart milk by heating it to 150 F-
degrees. Cool milk to 110 F-degrees. I use organic whole milk. If
you like really thick yogurt (the pudding-like kind), add about 1/4
cup of powdered milk to the quart milk and mix well before heating.

If you start from store-bought yogurt, make it an unflavored,
additive-free one. Stoneyfield Farms is a good organic one, but
some people swear that Dannon unflavored makes the best yogurt
starter. Once the milk has cooled to 110F, add 2 tablespoons of
yogurt to the milk. Stir gently and completely, but don't whisk.
Pour the mix into small, clean jars and cover loosely. I use old
glass peanut butter jars because they have nice wide mouths. Set
the jars in a warm place for several hours. The mix needs to be
kept warm, as close to the 110F as possible. An oven set at 150
degrees, or an insulated cooler with a heating pad inside with the
jars will do fine. Try not to jostle or move the jars while the mix
is setting. Once it's cultured, refridgerate for about 12 hours,
and it's done.

Save about 1/4 cup of your first batch, and keep it sealed
separately in the refridgerator. You want to keep it as fresh as
possible, because it will be the starter for your next batch. But
you should really use it within a week.

We use a LOT of yogurt, and this has saved me a lot of money. Once
the yogurt is done, I add some honey to the yogurt I'll be using for
fruit smoothies. The other yogurt I leave plain, and I use that in
baking and cooking. I buy all-fruit butters from a local supplier,
and my kids add whatever flavor they want to their yogurt.

My goodness, this got long. I hope this helps.

Debbie

Heidi Here

Thanks! I will try it.
Have a great weekend
Heidi
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From: myfunny4
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 7:12 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Different sleep needs



--- In [email protected], "Heidi Here"
<kleincrew@p...> wrote:
>
> Hi, can you please tell me how you make your yogurt? do you have a
machine?
> thanks
> Heidi

Hi Heidi,

I often use a yogurt starter called Yogourmet that I found at a
nearby health food store. But you really don't need a starter
culture or a machine. You can easily make your own yogurt using a
commercial brand yogurt as a starter. I've done this, and it makes
a fine yogurt, but a little on the thin side. I use the recipe and
instructions from "The Encyclopedia of Country Living" by Carla
Emery.

Start by pasteurizing one quart milk by heating it to 150 F-
degrees. Cool milk to 110 F-degrees. I use organic whole milk. If
you like really thick yogurt (the pudding-like kind), add about 1/4
cup of powdered milk to the quart milk and mix well before heating.

If you start from store-bought yogurt, make it an unflavored,
additive-free one. Stoneyfield Farms is a good organic one, but
some people swear that Dannon unflavored makes the best yogurt
starter. Once the milk has cooled to 110F, add 2 tablespoons of
yogurt to the milk. Stir gently and completely, but don't whisk.
Pour the mix into small, clean jars and cover loosely. I use old
glass peanut butter jars because they have nice wide mouths. Set
the jars in a warm place for several hours. The mix needs to be
kept warm, as close to the 110F as possible. An oven set at 150
degrees, or an insulated cooler with a heating pad inside with the
jars will do fine. Try not to jostle or move the jars while the mix
is setting. Once it's cultured, refridgerate for about 12 hours,
and it's done.

Save about 1/4 cup of your first batch, and keep it sealed
separately in the refridgerator. You want to keep it as fresh as
possible, because it will be the starter for your next batch. But
you should really use it within a week.

We use a LOT of yogurt, and this has saved me a lot of money. Once
the yogurt is done, I add some honey to the yogurt I'll be using for
fruit smoothies. The other yogurt I leave plain, and I use that in
baking and cooking. I buy all-fruit butters from a local supplier,
and my kids add whatever flavor they want to their yogurt.

My goodness, this got long. I hope this helps.

Debbie






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