Karen Swanay

<<Life has consequences. I've never had the luxury of being sheltered from
those consequences, so I'm more aware than most.

JMO>>

I'd be very careful about making statements like this. Just me...here's my
"CV of Suffering" (bah I haven't ever listed this out before)

My father left when I was about 10 and didn't pay child support.
My mother worked her ass off but we were still dirt poor.
My mother was off and on suicidal.
We were latchkey kids.
For a while we lived with a guy my mother was dating who I now know was a
pedophile (his own daughter.)
My first boyfriend raped me when I was 2 weeks shy of 18, because my hymen
didn't break he assumed I wasn't a virgin and tore into me.
He raped me repeatedly, (usually anally) to punish me for transgressions I
could never predict.
He forced me to perform oral sex and swallow the ejaculate. Gagging got me
a beating. (20 yrs later I still can't get past that one.)
I got repeated infections from the rape and sexual practices, we did not
have health care. I had to clear them with cranberry juice.
FAST FORWARD
5 miscarriages
Systemic Lupus
Fibromyalgia
Sjogren's Syndrome
Interstitial Cystitis
Kidney stones
Pleurisy
Cardiac involvement
Eating disorders
BDD
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I could go on but that's enough. I don't marinate in my "issues" it doesn't
help me move forward or feel good. But I've been poor. I've been abused.
I've got issues...we all do. There are people on this list who have lost
spouses and children. Things that make "suffering" seem very subjective and
trivial.

I don't discount your knowledge, just don't make it seem like everyone here
has lead a charmed life. Many of us are here BECAUSE we've had enough of
the ugly...we were ourselves the "victims" of oppression by one or more
people.
Karen
"I argue that the Talmud is about the constant struggle to understand."
~Arthur Hertzberg




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Rachel Lowder

I've never suffered to that extent, I'll admit. I'm sorry you lived through all that and I wish I could take away all that pain. I can't, but I wish I could.
 
I've been through some serious episodes of hell. Most of which I could have avoided if I'd been better informed and if I hadn't had to learn through the school of hard knocks. I believe in the power of education and honesty and logical consequences - on the logic that a small bump, early on, saves you a hard fall later on. Makes you more aware.
 
Again, I'm VERY sorry you went through all that.

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Karen Swanay <luvbullbreeds@...> wrote:


From: Karen Swanay <luvbullbreeds@...>
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] (Was) Daughter's weight gain (Now) Who has suffered the most? VERY GRAPHIC!!
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 10:38 PM


 



<<Life has consequences. I've never had the luxury of being sheltered from
those consequences, so I'm more aware than most.

JMO>>

I'd be very careful about making statements like this. Just me...here's my
"CV of Suffering" (bah I haven't ever listed this out before)

My father left when I was about 10 and didn't pay child support.
My mother worked her ass off but we were still dirt poor.
My mother was off and on suicidal.
We were latchkey kids.
For a while we lived with a guy my mother was dating who I now know was a
pedophile (his own daughter.)
My first boyfriend raped me when I was 2 weeks shy of 18, because my hymen
didn't break he assumed I wasn't a virgin and tore into me.
He raped me repeatedly, (usually anally) to punish me for transgressions I
could never predict.
He forced me to perform oral sex and swallow the ejaculate. Gagging got me
a beating. (20 yrs later I still can't get past that one.)
I got repeated infections from the rape and sexual practices, we did not
have health care. I had to clear them with cranberry juice.
FAST FORWARD
5 miscarriages
Systemic Lupus
Fibromyalgia
Sjogren's Syndrome
Interstitial Cystitis
Kidney stones
Pleurisy
Cardiac involvement
Eating disorders
BDD
************ **

I could go on but that's enough. I don't marinate in my "issues" it doesn't
help me move forward or feel good. But I've been poor. I've been abused.
I've got issues...we all do. There are people on this list who have lost
spouses and children. Things that make "suffering" seem very subjective and
trivial.

I don't discount your knowledge, just don't make it seem like everyone here
has lead a charmed life. Many of us are here BECAUSE we've had enough of
the ugly...we were ourselves the "victims" of oppression by one or more
people.
Karen
"I argue that the Talmud is about the constant struggle to understand."
~Arthur Hertzberg

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