ANGELA BERRY

Hi Kelly,

How does one find out where there are groups even ones that are not widely published.  I do know of one in my area but the yahoo board is very, very, empty.  ;o(

I have not been back on here in soooooo long and then the other day looking for some inspiration I came on and saw the post for the Unschooling conference and I started dreaming of going this year for the first time.

I wonder how Dad's react and feel if they attend with the family if they are not on the same page as the mom??  Like me I have done most of the reading and from John Holt to others on unschooling and it feels so right inside all I have read and what I have seen my kids pick up on just by being with them and taking the world as our guide.  But then getting scared I was not doing it "correctly" (pressure from outside sources) started a more routine and have lost some of the glow with my kids and now I am looking to get that back!  When I say routine it is very little since she turned 8 and was not reading yet after watching my 5yo read with ease that was very hard for me and my 8yo.

Wow what a journey when it seems nobody around you is with you.

;o) Angela



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Faith Void

I am not Kelly but here is a link to get you started.

http://sandradodd.com/world

Faith

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:07 AM, ANGELA BERRY <berryajj@...> wrote:

> Hi Kelly,
>
> How does one find out where there are groups even ones that are not widely
> published. I do know of one in my area but the yahoo board is very, very,
> empty. ;o(
>
>

--
http://faithvoid.blogspot.com/
www.bearthmama.com


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DJ250

If you live in MD, specifically Baltimore co,, Howard co., Anne Arundel co., or P.G. co, we've got the group for you! :0

~Melissa J

----- Original Message -----
From: Faith Void
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: How to start unschooling? Where to findthe hidden groups?


I am not Kelly but here is a link to get you started.

http://sandradodd.com/world

Faith

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:07 AM, ANGELA BERRY <berryajj@...> wrote:

> Hi Kelly,
>
> How does one find out where there are groups even ones that are not widely
> published. I do know of one in my area but the yahoo board is very, very,
> empty. ;o(
>
>

--
http://faithvoid.blogspot.com/
www.bearthmama.com

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Kelly Lovejoy

-----Original Message-----



From: ANGELA BERRY <berryajj@...>


How does one find out where there are groups even ones that are not widely
published.  I do know of one in my area but the yahoo board is very, very,
empty.  ;o(

-=-=-=-=-=-=

Tell us where you live. <G>

Seriously. Chances are, one of us lives near you or knows of someone nearby. 

But as I told Faith <g>, your unschooling *neighbor* may be an hour or more away. I have eight unschooling families coming to my house this weekend. Only two are within an hour (one's just blocks away). The others are three to nine hours away. Doesn't mean we don't get together; it just takes more work. <G>

-=-=-=-=-=-=-

I have not been back on here in soooooo long and then the other day looking for
some inspiration I came on and saw the post for the Unschooling conference and I
started dreaming of going this year for the first time.

-=-=-=-=-

You realize Live and Learn Conference is no more., right? But there are MANY others around the country---something almost every month!


-=-=-=-=-=

I wonder how Dad's react and feel if they attend with the family if they are not
on the same page as the mom??  

-=-=-=-=-=-

Sometimes that's all it takes to push them over the edge! I know two dads in particular, Jeff Sabo and Austin Gavin, who were really changed by the conferences. I know there are others, but these two have written or spoken about20the impact of the conferences.



Some dads lock themselves in their rooms and never come out the whole weekend.




Some take baby steps.




Each one is an individual! I hope they ALL take home *something* of value to help unschooling work. What *really* makes a difference is the dads who are willing to explore it and who are willing to learn. It's the ones who shut down automatically who get the least (if not nothing) out of the weekend.


-=-=-=-=-=-

Like me I have done most of the reading and from
John Holt to others on unschooling and it feels so right inside all I have read
and what I have seen my kids pick up on just by being with them and taking the
world as our guide.  But then getting scared I was not doing it "correctly"
(pressure from outside sources) started a more routine and have lost some of the
glow with my kids and now I am looking to get that back! 

-=-=-=-=-=-

A conference could be *just* what helps you see the benefits---seeing the older children and how they act, react, and interact with everyone there. 



Another option would be Cameron's new list---a place for parents to ask the actual unschoolers---children, teens, and young adults. A yahoogroup:   Ask-Unschooling_Offspring


-=-=-=-=-=-=-

When I say routine it
is very little since she turned 8 and was not reading yet after watching my 5yo
read with ease that was very hard for me and my 8yo.

-==-=-=-

You're
not the first. I've read of several families in which the younger child was reading before the older one. That just shows that each child is an individual. It will come to each child when he's ready.


-=-=-=-=-=- 

Wow what a journey when it seems nobody around you is with you.



-=-=-=-=-=-=


You can choose to whine about that or do something about it.




The community is HUGE compared to what it was 20 years ago! Seriously. Before the easy access to computers, all that unschoolers had was John Holt's 6x/year Growing Without Schooling magazine. With the internet, we could communicate virtually: I have friends I've never met---all around the globe. Then the conferences made an enormous contribution: we got to MEET real, live unschoolers. Now there's a conference or gathering or noncon almost every MONTH all over North America! 




Hell, I have an unschooling party at my HOUSE almost every month!




It is what you make it. I choose to surround myself with unschoolers. We're out there---you may have to do some work.



 ~Kelly

Kelly Lovejoy
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." ~Gandhi













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Angela Berry

--- In [email protected], Kelly Lovejoy
<kbcdlovejo@...> wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
>
> From: ANGELA BERRY <berryajj@...>
>
>
> How does one find out where there are groups even ones that are not
widely
> published.  I do know of one in my area but the yahoo board is
very, very,
> empty.  ;o(
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> Tell us where you live. <G> ***Michigan, The michiganunschooler
yahoo is a couple hours away mostly Grand Rapids, Mi
>
> Seriously. Chances are, one of us lives near you or knows of someone
nearby. ****That would be great!
>
> But as I told Faith <g>, your unschooling *neighbor* may be an hour
or more away. I have eight unschooling families coming to my house
this weekend. Only two are within an hour (one's just blocks away).
The others are three to nine hours away. Doesn't mean we don't get
together; it just takes more work. <G> ***Oh true!
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> I have not been back on here in soooooo long and then the other day
looking for
> some inspiration I came on and saw the post for the Unschooling
conference and I
> started dreaming of going this year for the first time.
>
> -=-=-=-=-
>
> You realize Live and Learn Conference is no more., right? But there
are MANY others around the country---something almost every month!
WHAT? The Northeast one coming this August?
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=
>
> I wonder how Dad's react and feel if they attend with the family if
they are not
> on the same page as the mom??  
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-
>
> Sometimes that's all it takes to push them over the edge! I know two
dads in particular, Jeff Sabo and Austin Gavin, who were really
changed by the conferences. I know there are others, but these two
have written or spoken about20the impact of the conferences.
>
>
>
> Some dads lock themselves in their rooms and never come out the
whole weekend.
>
>
>
>
> Some take baby steps.
>
>
>
>
> Each one is an individual! I hope they ALL take home *something* of
value to help unschooling work. What *really* makes a difference is
the dads who are willing to explore it and who are willing to learn.
It's the ones who shut down automatically who get the least (if not
nothing) out of the weekend.
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-
>
> Like me I have done most of the reading and from
> John Holt to others on unschooling and it feels so right inside all
I have read
> and what I have seen my kids pick up on just by being with them and
taking the
> world as our guide.  But then getting scared I was not doing it
"correctly"
> (pressure from outside sources) started a more routine and have lost
some of the
> glow with my kids and now I am looking to get that back! 
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-
>
> A conference could be *just* what helps you see the
benefits---seeing the older children and how they act, react, and
interact with everyone there. 
>
>
>
> Another option would be Cameron's new list---a place for parents to
ask the actual unschoolers---children, teens, and young adults. A
yahoogroup:   Ask-Unschooling_Offspring
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> When I say routine it
> is very little since she turned 8 and was not reading yet after
watching my 5yo
> read with ease that was very hard for me and my 8yo.
>
> -==-=-=-
>
> You're
> not the first. I've read of several families in which the younger
child was reading before the older one. That just shows that each
child is an individual. It will come to each child when he's ready.
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=- 
>
> Wow what a journey when it seems nobody around you is with you.
>
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>
> You can choose to whine about that or do something about it. **No
whining here just the fact that I share..... <g>
>
>
>
>
> The community is HUGE compared to what it was 20 years ago!
Seriously. Before the easy access to computers, all that unschoolers
had was John Holt's 6x/year Growing Without Schooling magazine. With
the internet, we could communicate virtually: I have friends I've
never met---all around the globe. Then the conferences made an
enormous contribution: we got to MEET real, live unschoolers. Now
there's a conference or gathering or noncon almost every MONTH all
over North America! 
>
>
>
>
> Hell, I have an unschooling party at my HOUSE almost every month!
>
>
>
>
> It is what you make it. I choose to surround myself with
unschoolers. We're out there---you may have to do some work.
>
>
>
>  ~Kelly
>
> Kelly Lovejoy
> "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live
forever." ~Gandhi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

DJ250

Angela,

How about posting on your local homeschooling groups for a meet-up? You could either have it be just parents (Moms' Night Out sort of thing) or a playgroup or both! Something like "Anyone unschool? Interested? Come to _______ Cafe this ____night for coffee and conversation! Bring your unschooling books and resources!" There are probably others out there near you in the same predicament! It's partly how I found my group! :)

Also wanted to point out that, while it is valuable to have friends who unschool, and I definitely am very grateful for the unschooling group I found near me, it is also helpful to just have friends who are respectful of your choices!! My best buddy is a school-at-home-er but we have so much in common besides that and our kids have such a great time together, it's fine. I just playfully roll my eyes at her when she complains it's "like pushing a string, Melissa!" sometimes (referring to homeschooling her kid). She laughs and says, "I know, I know--unschool!". She'll admittedly never go the unschooling route as it just doesn't make sense to her but it's fine.

Also, just because someone STARTS OUT doing school-at-home type homeschooling doesn't mean they can't be converted. I've been evangelising and have brought several over to the Dark Side. :) Tee Hee.

~Melissa J :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Faith Void
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re: How to start unschooling? Where to findthe hidden groups?


I am not Kelly but here is a link to get you started.

http://sandradodd.com/world

Faith

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:07 AM, ANGELA BERRY <berryajj@...> wrote:

> Hi Kelly,
>
> How does one find out where there are groups even ones that are not widely
> published. I do know of one in my area but the yahoo board is very, very,
> empty. ;o(
>
>

--
http://faithvoid.blogspot.com/
www.bearthmama.com

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Kelly Lovejoy

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Berry <berryajj@...>


> Tell us where you live. <G>  

***Michigan, The michiganunschooler
yahoo is a couple hours away mostly Grand Rapids, Mi 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-

We were just up in Ohio (10 hour drive for us in SC) for the Unschoolers' Winter Waterpark Gathering. Where were you?  <g>


Anyone know any Michiganers?

-=-=-=-=-=-

> You realize Live and Learn Conference is no more., right? But there
are MANY others around the country---something almost every month!
WHAT? The Northeast one coming this August?


-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Nope---the Northeast Unschooling Conference is still a GO! I'll see you there! 

Please come up and talk to me---you may need to remind me who you are.





 ~Kelly

Kelly Lovejoy
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." ~Gandhi










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Angie Fette

What part of Michigan Angela? I have a friend that lives near, Detroit.
She's actually out in the country, but she's connected with quite a few
unschoolers. If you are anywhere near Detroit, let me know. I could
connect the 2 of you.



Angie Fette



-------Original Message-------



From: Angela Berry

Date: 2/25/2009 8:51:11 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: How to start unschooling? Where to find the
hidden groups?



--- In [email protected], Kelly Lovejoy

<kbcdlovejo@...> wrote:

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

>

>

> From: ANGELA BERRY <berryajj@...>

>

>

> How does one find out where there are groups even ones that are not

widely

> published. I do know of one in my area but the yahoo board is

very, very,

> empty. ;o(

>

> -=-=-=-=-=-=

>

> Tell us where you live. <G> ***Michigan, The michiganunschooler

yahoo is a couple hours away mostly Grand Rapids, Mi

>

> Seriously. Chances are, one of us lives near you or knows of someone

nearby. ****That would be great!

>

> But as I told Faith <g>, your unschooling *neighbor* may be an hour

or more away. I have eight unschooling families coming to my house

this weekend. Only two are within an hour (one's just blocks away).

The others are three to nine hours away. Doesn't mean we don't get

together; it just takes more work. <G> ***Oh true!

>

> -=-=-=-=-=-=-

>

> I have not been back on here in soooooo long and then the other day

looking for

> some inspiration I came on and saw the post for the Unschooling

conference and I

> started dreaming of going this year for the first time.

>

> -=-=-=-=-

>

> You realize Live and Learn Conference is no more., right? But there

are MANY others around the country---something almost every month!

WHAT? The Northeast one coming this August?

>

>

> -=-=-=-=-=

>

> I wonder how Dad's react and feel if they attend with the family if

they are not

> on the same page as the mom?? Â

>

> -=-=-=-=-=-

>

> Sometimes that's all it takes to push them over the edge! I know two

dads in particular, Jeff Sabo and Austin Gavin, who were really

changed by the conferences. I know there are others, but these two

have written or spoken about20the impact of the conferences.

>

>

>

> Some dads lock themselves in their rooms and never come out the

whole weekend.

>

>

>

>

> Some take baby steps.

>

>

>

>

> Each one is an individual! I hope they ALL take home *something* of

value to help unschooling work. What *really* makes a difference is

the dads who are willing to explore it and who are willing to learn.

It's the ones who shut down automatically who get the least (if not

nothing) out of the weekend.

>

>

> -=-=-=-=-=-

>

> Like me I have done most of the reading and from

> John Holt to others on unschooling and it feels so right inside all

I have read

> and what I have seen my kids pick up on just by being with them and

taking the

> world as our guide. But then getting scared I was not doing it

"correctly"

> (pressure from outside sources) started a more routine and have lost

some of the

> glow with my kids and now I am looking to get that back!Â

>

> -=-=-=-=-=-

>

> A conference could be *just* what helps you see the

benefits---seeing the older children and how they act, react, and

interact with everyone there.Â

>

>

>

> Another option would be Cameron's new list---a place for parents to

ask the actual unschoolers---children, teens, and young adults. A

yahoogroup: Â Ask-Unschooling_Offspring

>

>

> -=-=-=-=-=-=-

>

> When I say routine it

> is very little since she turned 8 and was not reading yet after

watching my 5yo

> read with ease that was very hard for me and my 8yo.

>

> -==-=-=-

>

> You're

> not the first. I've read of several families in which the younger

child was reading before the older one. That just shows that each

child is an individual. It will come to each child when he's ready.

>

>

> -=-=-=-=-=-Â

>

> Wow what a journey when it seems nobody around you is with you.

>

>

>

> -=-=-=-=-=-=

>

>

> You can choose to whine about that or do something about it. **No

whining here just the fact that I share..... <g>

>

>

>

>

> The community is HUGE compared to what it was 20 years ago!

Seriously. Before the easy access to computers, all that unschoolers

had was John Holt's 6x/year Growing Without Schooling magazine. With

the internet, we could communicate virtually: I have friends I've

never met---all around the globe. Then the conferences made an

enormous contribution: we got to MEET real, live unschoolers. Now

there's a conference or gathering or noncon almost every MONTH all

over North America!Â

>

>

>

>

> Hell, I have an unschooling party at my HOUSE almost every month!

>

>

>

>

> It is what you make it. I choose to surround myself with

unschoolers. We're out there---you may have to do some work.

>

>

>

> Â ~Kelly

>

> Kelly Lovejoy

> "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live

forever." ~Gandhi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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Debra Rossing

> Nope---the Northeast Unschooling Conference is still a GO! I'll see
you there!

I am SO looking forward to seeing everybody again - it's been a long
time...okay well maybe only since last spring but that's a LONG time :-)

As far as dads go, there are lots of great dads at conferences. Ben,
Kelly's hubby, is a great one to corral with questions.

Deb R


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