hancai1997

Has anyone had experience with an on-line high school that they really
loved? I'm tutoring a high school girl and the mother may be
interested in pulling her out of school and letting her learn at home,
and wants to know about on-line high schools. If you know of any,
please let me know!

Thanks!
Michele

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From: hancai1997 <hancai1997@...>

Has anyone had experience with an on-line high school that they really
loved? I'm tutoring a high school girl and the mother may be
interested in pulling her out of school and letting her learn at home,
and wants to know about on-line high schools. If you know of any,
please let me know!

-=-=-

This is an unschooling e-list. We don't *do* school.

You might want to look into Clonlara.


~Kelly

Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org

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there are alot of online high schools. Just google it and you will come up with tons. It depends on what kind of education you are looking for. If the girl's mother just wants a diploma, there are many to fit the bill, like Brighham young university. Clonlara offers an "alternative" kind of diploma, that caters to those who want an alternative education. Keystone is another one. It all depends on your objectives.
Kathryn

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From: "hancai1997" <hancai1997@...>
Has anyone had experience with an on-line high school that they really
loved? I'm tutoring a high school girl and the mother may be
interested in pulling her out of school and letting her learn at home,
and wants to know about on-line high schools. If you know of any,
please let me know!

Thanks!
Michele




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In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:48:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
airokat@... writes:

From: "hancai1997" <hancai1997@...>
Has anyone had experience with an on-line high school that they really
loved? I'm tutoring a high school girl and the mother may be
interested in pulling her out of school and letting her learn at home,
and wants to know about on-line high schools. If you know of any,
please let me know!

Thanks!
Michele



I ADORE _www.globalvillage.org_ (http://www.globalvillage.org) It's as
close to unschooling that I have seen yet. I've had first hand experience so feel
free to ask me anything about it. If I can help, I will.

Karen



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Su Penn

It's not on-line, but Goddard College offers a low-residency program
for homeschooled teenagers. They can earn college credit for their
work. I have a degree from Goddard, and it is about as fabulous as
institutional learning can get: Students attend a residency at the
beginning of each semester (it's a weekend for the teenagers, week-
long for undergrads and grad students) at which they plan their
semester's course of study. The residencies when I attended were like
intense conferences at which you got to see the work people was
doing; students and faculty present their work, offer workshops, and
so on. Students then return home and complete their work, sending
packets every three weeks to their advisors for review and feedback.
There are no grades; at the end of the semester, both the student and
advisor write thoughtful narrative evaluations about the semester's
work.

Not wanting to de-rail. I have just always been keeping Goddard in
mind as a resource my kids might want to explore when they get older,
if they're interested in something and feel they might benefit from a
structured program with the support of a mentor. For me, I felt like
I improved about 10 years worth' as a writer during my two years in
the MFA program there.

http://www.goddard.edu/academic/Homeschool.html

Su

> From: "hancai1997" <hancai1997@...>
> Has anyone had experience with an on-line high school that they really
> loved?

hancai1997

So, Kelly, if your unschooled 14 year old came to you and expressed
interest in going to college, and felt that she wanted to try an
on-line high school, or that she wanted to try taking some community
college courses, does your comment mean that you would tell her
"Honey, we are unschoolers. We don't "do" school."?

Unschooling means "child-directed learning", and, in my eyes, that
means letting the child discover his or her path in education. I came
to this board with this question because I am sure that even
unschoolers end up sometimes "doing" school. I value an unschooler's
opinion on on-line programs over a regular homeschooler's opinion on
those types of programs because I feel that an unschooler would
probably direct me more towards programs that might possible by more
"child directed", rather than "traditional".



>
> This is an unschooling e-list. We don't *do* school.
>
> You might want to look into Clonlara.
>
>
> ~Kelly
>
> Kelly Lovejoy
> Conference Coordinator
> Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
> http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
>
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From: hancai1997 <hancai1997@...>

So, Kelly, if your unschooled 14 year old came to you and expressed
interest in going to college, and felt that she wanted to try an
on-line high school, or that she wanted to try taking some community
college courses, does your comment mean that you would tell her
"Honey, we are unschoolers. We don't "do" school."?

-=-=-=-=-

First off, I would try to determine *why* he wanted to take a high
school course. If he thought that was the best way for him to learn, I
would certainly try to offer other ways to get what he's looking for.
We know many people in many walks of life, including academia. There
*many* other options for "high school level" information.

As for college courses, we did that. Cam (at 15 or 16, I guess) sat in
on a college sociology class at the University of South Carolina. He
got what he wanted from that---and realized that the college classroom
setting was *not* what he'd expected.

-=-=-=-=-=-

Unschooling means "child-directed learning", and, in my eyes, that
means letting the child discover his or her path in education.

-=-=-=-=-

Yes, but so many children (and almost all adults!) have been damaged by
school-thinking that it clouds their judgment regarding *how* to go
about learning. Too many people believe that learning must take place
in a classroom with top-down teaching. Opening our minds to the idea
that learning takes place *inside* the learner is a large step to
understanding unschooling.

-=-=-=-=-

I came to this board with this question because I am sure that even
unschoolers end up sometimes "doing" school. I value an unschooler's
opinion on on-line programs over a regular homeschooler's opinion on
those types of programs because I feel that an unschooler would
probably direct me more towards programs that might possible by more
"child directed", rather than "traditional".

-=-=-=-=-

What about other options? Why is that not the question here?

I mean: I understand that we would be a better choice, but coming to an
unschooling list and asking about better ways to do school is is not
the best use of the list.

What is the child's goal? What are her passions? We can show you how to
reach THOSE goals withOUT the online school program.

There is NOTHING you can learn in school that you can't learn OUT of
school. We have options! And lots of ideas!

~Kelly

Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org



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>>It's not on-line, but Goddard College offers a low-residency program
for homeschooled teenagers. They can earn college credit for their
work. I have a degree from Goddard, and it is about as fabulous as
institutional learning can get: Students attend a residency at the
beginning of each semester (it's a weekend for the teenagers, week-
long for undergrads and grad students) at which they plan their
semester's course of study. The residencies when I attended were like
intense conferences at which you got to see the work people was
doing; students and faculty present their work, offer workshops, and
so on. Students then return home and complete their work, sending
packets every three weeks to their advisors for review and feedback.
There are no grades; at the end of the semester, both the student and
advisor write thoughtful narrative evaluations about the semester's
work.

Not wanting to de-rail. I have just always been keeping Goddard in
mind as a resource my kids might want to explore when they get older,
if they're interested in something and feel they might benefit from a
structured program with the support of a mentor. For me, I felt like
I improved about 10 years worth' as a writer during my two years in
the MFA program there.<<

Unfortunately Goddard didn't get enough enrollment for the program, so it is
not currently running. I suspect if enough people asked for it and were ready
to commit they'd be delighted to try again. A parent or other adult needed
to attend with the kid...I wonder if they would have had more success if
they'd invited the adult to also do a part-time for credit program. That'd be very
unschooling friendly, and kind of cool.

Kathryn, whose unschooled son Julian will be attending Goddard this fall



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Alice

--- In [email protected], "hancai1997"
<hancai1997@...> wrote:
> Has anyone had experience with an on-line high school that they really
> loved?

If they are looking for more self directed courses that she can learn
at her own pace (and reasonable cost of $350 a year I believe plus
your supplies of your own choosing), check out:

www.narhs.org

-alice

Ren Allen

~~Unschooling means "child-directed learning", and, in my eyes, that
means letting the child discover his or her path in education. ~~


The person posting the question, was not talking about an unschooler
wanting to try school. She was asking how to school an already
schooled child outside of a school building, that's all. We're not
here to help people school. What anyone chooses is their business, but
we're here to help people get OUT of school and schooling.

If an unschooler comes here wanting advice on schools for a child,
we're not here to help with that. It doesn't mean it won't be a great
experience for that child, because they chose it. It just means that
we exist to help people UNschool. We can discuss many things
surrounding the ideas of schooling and unschooled children choosing
school and other issues. But we're not here to help people school.
It's that simple.

Ren
learninginfreedom.com

hancai1997

I agree with you completely, especially after being a teacher in
public schools for the past ten years. I've gotten to the point where
I just can't do it any more, because I am sick and tired of being
forced to work with children in ways that I know is just not good for
them.

Unfortunately, however, in order to afford to leave my job and
unschool my own children, I do have to work as a tutor. And I am
presently tutoring a girl who is suffering her way through public
school. The mom seems willing to consider homeschooling, but is very
doubtful of herself. To top it off, the area where we live is a very
intense, high-pressure, college oriented area. I am impressed that
the mom is even willing to take her child out of school, because most
parents of high schoolers in this area wouldn't consider it. Parents
of younger children will, but the parents of kids in high school
definitely feel that there kids need to be "schooled", since it is so
close to college. Although I definitely plan on recommending Grace
Llewellyn's books to the mom, she also needs the reassurance of having
a place where her daughter can take "classes". I want to be able to
give her names of places that are a little unconventional - on-line
schools that do not work in the traditional manner, but which will
provide the mom with the comfort that she needs in order to feel that
her daughter is being "educated".



> There is NOTHING you can learn in school that you can't learn OUT of
> school. We have options! And lots of ideas!