Deb Lewis

***let's say you met the president or someone else like that would you say
hey
George or would you say sir or Mr. Bush***

Our country's custom is to call the president "Mr. President" and that's
what I would do and that's what my son would do because he seems fair adept
in social skills. But as to ma'am-ing and sir-ing random hers and hims
there is no custom left in our part of the country which calls on young
people to use such terminology. If Dylan found himself in a situation
where such a custom existed he'd be polite and follow the custom.

But if an adult refers to Dylan by his first name I can't think of any
reason Dylan should not respond in kind. And if it's about respect then I
would say my son is as entitled to respect as any ma'am or sir. If it's
about respect would it be disrespectful of them to say "Dylan?" And if
it's about respect why do children deserve less respect than adults? Or,
why are children expected to "show" respect in a way adults are not?

It seems wiggly, really. Respect is more than a spoken "ma'am" or "sir."

***Personally, I'd say Butthead.***

Ellisa Jill made Merlot come out my nose.

Deb Lewis

Vickisue Gray

But if a cop pulls you over, even though butt-head might be more appropriate, Yes Sir, No sir, could keep Mr. Butt-head from REALLY showing you HOW BIG a butt he is!

Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote: ***let's say you met the president or someone else like that would you say
hey
George or would you say sir or Mr. Bush***

Our country's custom is to call the president "Mr. President" and that's
what I would do and that's what my son would do because he seems fair adept
in social skills. But as to ma'am-ing and sir-ing random hers and hims
there is no custom left in our part of the country which calls on young
people to use such terminology. If Dylan found himself in a situation
where such a custom existed he'd be polite and follow the custom.

But if an adult refers to Dylan by his first name I can't think of any
reason Dylan should not respond in kind. And if it's about respect then I
would say my son is as entitled to respect as any ma'am or sir. If it's
about respect would it be disrespectful of them to say "Dylan?" And if
it's about respect why do children deserve less respect than adults? Or,
why are children expected to "show" respect in a way adults are not?

It seems wiggly, really. Respect is more than a spoken "ma'am" or "sir."

***Personally, I'd say Butthead.***

Ellisa Jill made Merlot come out my nose.

Deb Lewis






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Michelle Leifur Reid

On 10/7/06, Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@...> wrote:
> But if a cop pulls you over, even though butt-head might be more appropriate, Yes Sir, No sir, could keep Mr. Butt-head from REALLY showing you HOW BIG a butt he is!
>

These are all very hypothetical situations which happen to an
individual so very rarely (especially meeting the leader of a
country!) for most individuals that it is hard to even imagine. Being
polite does NOT require a "ma'am" or a "sir." Being polite means just
not being offensive. I have never stressed the "ma'am and sir" thing.
Never. Even before I was unschooling. I also don't insist that my
children call adults by Mr. or Mrs. _______. Just their names.
That's how I introduce them to my adults friends. "Martha this is my
daughter Emily. Emily this is my friend Martha."

I actually would be concerned about my child meeting our current
president as she is not a fan of his. I can just see her glaring at
him and giving her a piece of her mind (although this meeting would be
SO unlikely as I am quite sure that the Secret Service would know
full well what her opinions are way before the meeting!)

Michelle - who actually punched the last police officer who pulled her
over (it was my brother who routinely pulls me over just to harass me
which has taught me when not to drive through the town he works at
during shift changes!)

Elissa Jill Cleaveland

Ellisa Jill made Merlot come out my nose.
*********
BWAHAHAHAHA! My evil plan is a SUCCESS!!
Elissa Jill
A Kindersher saychel iz oychet a saychel.
"A Child's wisdom is also wisdom." ~Yiddish Proverb

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<<But if an adult refers to Dylan by his first name I can't think of any
reason Dylan should not respond in kind.>>

This is sort of related. At my daughter's last school, in eighth grade, a teacher said to her: "Anya I have absolutely no respect for you." and she answered back: "Thats okay because I have no respect for you either." She got suspended.
Kathryn

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From: Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@...>
But if a cop pulls you over, even though butt-head might be more appropriate, Yes Sir, No sir, could keep Mr. Butt-head from REALLY showing you HOW BIG a butt he is!

Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote: ***let's say you met the president or someone else like that would you say
hey
George or would you say sir or Mr. Bush***

Our country's custom is to call the president "Mr. President" and that's
what I would do and that's what my son would do because he seems fair adept
in social skills. But as to ma'am-ing and sir-ing random hers and hims
there is no custom left in our part of the country which calls on young
people to use such terminology. If Dylan found himself in a situation
where such a custom existed he'd be polite and follow the custom.

But if an adult refers to Dylan by his first name I can't think of any
reason Dylan should not respond in kind. And if it's about respect then I
would say my son is as entitled to respect as any ma'am or sir. If it's
about respect would it be disrespectful of them to say "Dylan?" And if
it's about respect why do children deserve less respect than adults? Or,
why are children expected to "show" respect in a way adults are not?

It seems wiggly, really. Respect is more than a spoken "ma'am" or "sir."

***Personally, I'd say Butthead.***

Ellisa Jill made Merlot come out my nose.

Deb Lewis


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Vickisue Gray

The teacher should have been suspended TOO!



airokat@... wrote:
<<But if an adult refers to Dylan by his first name I can't think of any
reason Dylan should not respond in kind.>>

This is sort of related. At my daughter's last school, in eighth grade, a teacher said to her: "Anya I have absolutely no respect for you." and she answered back: "Thats okay because I have no respect for you either." She got suspended.
Kathryn

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From: Vickisue Gray <vickisue_gray@...>
But if a cop pulls you over, even though butt-head might be more appropriate, Yes Sir, No sir, could keep Mr. Butt-head from REALLY showing you HOW BIG a butt he is!

Deb Lewis <d.lewis@...> wrote: ***let's say you met the president or someone else like that would you say
hey
George or would you say sir or Mr. Bush***

Our country's custom is to call the president "Mr. President" and that's
what I would do and that's what my son would do because he seems fair adept
in social skills. But as to ma'am-ing and sir-ing random hers and hims
there is no custom left in our part of the country which calls on young
people to use such terminology. If Dylan found himself in a situation
where such a custom existed he'd be polite and follow the custom.

But if an adult refers to Dylan by his first name I can't think of any
reason Dylan should not respond in kind. And if it's about respect then I
would say my son is as entitled to respect as any ma'am or sir. If it's
about respect would it be disrespectful of them to say "Dylan?" And if
it's about respect why do children deserve less respect than adults? Or,
why are children expected to "show" respect in a way adults are not?

It seems wiggly, really. Respect is more than a spoken "ma'am" or "sir."

***Personally, I'd say Butthead.***

Ellisa Jill made Merlot come out my nose.

Deb Lewis

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***This is sort of related. At my daughter's last school, in eighth grade, a teacher said to her: "Anya I have absolutely no respect for you." and she answered back: "Thats okay because I have no respect for you either." She got suspended.****

OMG !! You made me ~snort~ I laughed so hard ;)

My ds (now 15) was sick at school alot - he was in 2nd grade. I do believe the school made him physically ill. But one day, when I went to pick him up, the teacher said " Alex is not sick, he's faking it and I feel he should be made to stay & stick it out." Well Alex promptly threw up all over her shoes ! I looked at her and said "Well I feel he is sick & we'll be leaving now." Thats when we decided public school was no longer an option.

Carol



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Vickisue Gray

That's hilarious! BTW, my son was sick a lot in Kindergarten. I told the teacher he was allergic to her and pulled him out. Lo and behold! He stopped getting sick!

camden <ccoutlaw@...> wrote: ***This is sort of related. At my daughter's last school, in eighth grade, a teacher said to her: "Anya I have absolutely no respect for you." and she answered back: "Thats okay because I have no respect for you either." She got suspended.****

OMG !! You made me ~snort~ I laughed so hard ;)

My ds (now 15) was sick at school alot - he was in 2nd grade. I do believe the school made him physically ill. But one day, when I went to pick him up, the teacher said " Alex is not sick, he's faking it and I feel he should be made to stay & stick it out." Well Alex promptly threw up all over her shoes ! I looked at her and said "Well I feel he is sick & we'll be leaving now." Thats when we decided public school was no longer an option.

Carol



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