Sandra Dodd

This is from a post somewhere by a childless friend who lost like 150
pounds (130 or 180, I don't know which or what exactly; sorry) and who
has lately gained a little back, so she's solid onto getting it back
off.

This is not about unschooling. This is about the way things are
valued and condemned by people making judgments about foods. I'm not
guaranteeing anything about this except that someone with a LOT of
experience in counselling others on weight and diet posted it.

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"Eating fruit is fine. Drinking juice is not."
Saw this article today, thought I'd post it because, well, because it
supports one of my personal dieting mantras*. "No fruit juice!" is
something I'm militant about. To my mind drinking fruit juice is
exactly the same as drinking regular soda - a giant calorie bomb of
sugar with no feeling of fullness. The process of making juice is the
process of extracting the beneficial part of the fruit - the fiber -
and leaving the part that's there to make humans want to consume it -
the sugar. There's nothing magical or special about fructose that
makes it healthier than the sugar used in soda. Sugar is sugar, it all
exists to carry calories into your body.

If you are dieting and thinking that having fruit juice is your
healthy option, you are shooting yourself in the foot. Ounce for
ounce, soda has fewer calories, and neither one is providing any
significant health benefits. You might as well have a Coke and a
smile, because (from the article), "The upside of juice consumption is
so infinitesimal compared to the downside that we shouldn't even be
having this discussion," said Dr. Robert Lustig, a pediatric
endocrinologist at UC San Francisco.

* Nobody said I had to be impartial!

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alexandriapalonia

Dr. Lustig does a wonderful job of explaining this (and other myths about sugar) in a presentation at UCSF's "Mini-Medical School":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

:-)
Andrea


> This is not about unschooling. This is about the way things are
> valued and condemned by people making judgments about foods. I'm not
> guaranteeing anything about this except that someone with a LOT of
> experience in counselling others on weight and diet posted it.
>
> ===================================
You might as well have a Coke and a
> smile, because (from the article), "The upside of juice consumption is
> so infinitesimal compared to the downside that we shouldn't even be
> having this discussion," said Dr. Robert Lustig, a pediatric
> endocrinologist at UC San Francisco.

Sandra Dodd

-=Dr. Lustig does a wonderful job of explaining this (and other myths
about sugar) in a presentation at UCSF's "Mini-Medical School":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

:-)
Andrea-=-

That video is an hour and a half long. Too long to ask people to
invest in. Can you summarize a part, or tell how (if) it will help
unschoolers?

Sandra

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Marina DeLuca-Howard

I have to say I am skeptical of the advice that you can only lose weight on
certain diets, because that has not been my personal experience. Whenever I
have lost weight its been because I was happy, played with my kids and had a
project of some sort. I have lost weight while consuming food slathered in
whipped cream, drank juice, eaten fruit smoothies made by my kids, but have
manage to gain weight on supposedly low cal. healthy diets. The body needs
to burn the calories it takes in, so you can cut the calories down but if
you aren't active you will still gain weight. The human body is an amazing
thing, and will actually start storing fat if an abrupt famine happens.

I met a very thin family from Switzerland, who have since returned home,
who used heavy cream, full fat yogurt and consumed chocolate in some form
at every meal. They came to Canada from the U.S. and the mother confided
she gained weight in the U.S., though in Tennessee where they were living
everyone was fat conscous and calorie conscious; so low fat food was served
everywhere, and she had to special order full fat yogurt from the local
store. She lost the weight when they moved to Canada, when the family went
back to their "regular" higher fat diet. From what I understand getting
enough sleep, being active, being happy and enjoying your family are all
good ways to lose weight! In the U.S. the mother noticed they were less
active and drove their car more, though they consumed fewer calories in the
U.S. than in Canada but they slept less and drove more in the U.S.

The monkey platter is a great way to health imo Sandra(little bits of
everything)!

Marina


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Sandra Dodd

-=-The monkey platter is a great way to health imo Sandra(little bits of
everything)!-=-

I think so too, but was surprised when I did the photo-call (photo
contest last year) at how many people's monkey platters had sweets.
Ours had nearly never had any. <g>

You mentioned sleep, and weight. I was sent a link to an article
that's an excerpt from a new book, and will probably just start
another thread for it in a while.

Sandra

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Marina DeLuca-Howard

Our platters tend to have lots of colour(blueberries, green grapes, purple
carrots, bananas, celery, cherry tomatoes). We have also had warm
chestnuts, cashews roasted with butter and salt in the oven, and assorted
seeds. I have put cut up veggies and corn chips with dips on platters. My
kids love ice cream and pop right now, so that doesn't make it to a platter,
because it would melt;) But I guess I never noticed there weren't sweets
going on there, until you mentioned it. With sweets I don't refuse to
provide them when asked, but I don't consciously think about including them
unless asked. It might be just me, because when hear the I think of the
word food, I visualize a stack of pancakes swimming in maple syrup or a
sandwich, rather than a chocolate bar. We have put home made muffins on
platters and banana bread spread with butter, but I don't think of them as
sweets. Fruit dipped in peanut butter and cheese cubes and meat/tuna
sandwiches cut with cookie cutters into hearts are popular. The peanut
butter I buy and we love is just ground peanuts(Maranantha, I think, though
I am nowhere near the kitchen). I have tried others but this is our fav.

Marina

On 31 January 2010 17:07, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:

>
>
> -=-The monkey platter is a great way to health imo Sandra(little bits of
> everything)!-=-
>
> I think so too, but was surprised when I did the photo-call (photo
> contest last year) at how many people's monkey platters had sweets.
> Ours had nearly never had any. <g>
>
> You mentioned sleep, and weight. I was sent a link to an article
> that's an excerpt from a new book, and will probably just start
> another thread for it in a while.
>
>
> Sandra
>
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>
>
>



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