Gwen

Megan(7) loves animals.  Right now, rabbits and dogs are her favorite domestic animals. 

We have a cat and a rabbit (Flemish Giant).  But what Megan would really like is a dog.  Megan wants a dog more than anything.  A dog isn't possible right now with our living situation (we live with my mom, it is her house/her rules and the yard isn't properly fenced.  The fencing will be repaired in the spring...and I am hoping to revisit the issue then....but I don't expect her to change her mind).  Adding a rabbit or cat or gerbil or mouse or rat or anything like that also isn't an option for the same reasons.  I'm a cat person by nature, but she wants a dog so badly that I'm turning into a dog person!

As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work with or be around animals.  Our local humane society has a very firm "you must be twelve years old" rule.  Megan isn't interested in a 4-H club or anything like that and she specifically wants to work with rabbits or dogs.

I met an officer from the local K-9 unit a few months ago and I plan to call him and ask if he has any suggestions.  I plan to call the local rabbit rescue and ask if they accept volunteers.  I will also email places that train service dogs in our area (Portland, OR).  I can also make a list of breeds Megan likes and look into those rescues.  She isn't picky about the breed.  She just loves animals.

We watch shows about dogs on tv (Dogs 101, Breed All About It, etc).  There is a dog show this week we can go to (we've watched them on tv, but this will be our first "in person").  I am very grateful for patient dog owners at pet stores who let Megan pet their dogs and ask questions.  We have dog books and talk about dogs all the time.  She has several vet games for the computer and the DS.

Is there anything I've missed?   What else can I do?

Gwen








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Laura

gosh I know this feeling! I was the same way about horses :)

I don't know how much time you have available to you, but what about
some in house petsitting? Maybe you guys could find someone or a
couple of people who would love to have someone spend some time with
their dog while they're at work? I'm thinking of someone who has their
own fenced place so doggie could do a pee pee and then have someone to
give them some love and attention. There are always people who have to
go to work but hate to leave their dogs all day and lots of times they
can't afford to pay someone to come by.

Laura in Miami

--- In [email protected], Gwen <willow_selene@...> wrote:
>
> Megan(7) loves animals.  Right now, rabbits and dogs are her
favorite domestic animals. 
>
> We have a cat and a rabbit (Flemish Giant).  But what Megan would
really like is a dog.  Megan wants a dog more than anything.  A dog
isn't possible right now with our living situation (we live with my
mom, it is her house/her rules and the yard isn't properly fenced. 
The fencing will be repaired in the spring...and I am hoping to
revisit the issue then....but I don't expect her to change her mind). 
Adding a rabbit or cat or gerbil or mouse or rat or anything like that
also isn't an option for the same reasons.  I'm a cat person by
nature, but she wants a dog so badly that I'm turning into a dog person!
>
> As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work
with or be around animals.  Our local humane society has a very firm
"you must be twelve years old" rule.  Megan isn't interested in a 4-H
club or anything like that and she specifically wants to work with
rabbits or dogs.
>
> I met an officer from the local K-9 unit a few months ago and I plan
to call him and ask if he has any suggestions.  I plan to call the
local rabbit rescue and ask if they accept volunteers.  I will also
email places that train service dogs in our area (Portland, OR).  I
can also make a list of breeds Megan likes and look into those
rescues.  She isn't picky about the breed.  She just loves animals.
>
> We watch shows about dogs on tv (Dogs 101, Breed All About It,
etc).  There is a dog show this week we can go to (we've watched them
on tv, but this will be our first "in person").  I am very grateful
for patient dog owners at pet stores who let Megan pet their dogs and
ask questions.  We have dog books and talk about dogs all the time. 
She has several vet games for the computer and the DS.
>
> Is there anything I've missed?   What else can I do?
>
> Gwen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

k

So your mom would not allow an indoor dog that is smaller right? It seems
you've covered many of your options and that you've probably already asked
the question I've asked. We have a dachshund who is very very docile and
mild. If jumping on the furniture or on people or something like that is
the problem, you could research ways to suggest or explain to the dog such
ideas and help the dog avoid certain behaviors.

~Katherine


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Robin Marcoccia

I'd check with other shelters and even foster organizations. I
realize you probably can't do an in-home foster, but maybe working a
Saturday at a petsmart adoption day through a foster organization or
just visiting to walk/love/socialize the dogs would be an option.
Robin
On Jan 11, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Gwen wrote:

>
> As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work
> with or be around animals. Our local humane society has a very firm
> "you must be twelve years old" rule. Megan isn't interested in a 4-
> H club or anything like that and she specifically wants to work with
> rabbits or dogs.
>
>

>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



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M Walker

Could she offer to walk dogs for neighbors?

wat_dox

---
>
> We watch shows about dogs on tv (Dogs 101, Breed All About It,
etc).  There is a dog show this week we can go to (we've watched them
on tv, but this will be our first "in person").  I am very grateful
for patient dog owners at pet stores who let Megan pet their dogs and
ask questions.  We have dog books and talk about dogs all the time. 
She has several vet games for the computer and the DS.
>
> Is there anything I've missed?   What else can I do?
>
> Gwen
>


hi,

i think you could look for people with dog/s that could do with a
some help in caring for and exercising them. Particularly older
people or perhaps with disability. So, you could contact local vets
for instance, explain what you are offering and they might put you in
touch with someone for example who might be arthritic and would love
help brushing their dog, taking it for walks etcetera. Similarly -
find your version of what in Australia is "guide dogs for the blind"
or other therapy dogs living with disabled people... I could see a
wealth of opportunities for all of you, with this approach. It should
also avoid the 'insurance bogey'. Just get to know a couple of dogs
and their owners and visit regularly. Maybe put an add on a notice
board at a retirement village that allows pets?

I know of a family who used to dog and house sit for a (very rich)
couple for periods of a month or more - living in luxury and caring
for a lovely dog....

Down the road a ways, Megan might start her own business, offering
in home petcare and so on.

In the meantime keep watching dog stuff - I highly recomend a British
dog trainer - Victoria Stilwell - who had a show "It's me or the
dog" - she really knows her stuff!

Bake healthy dog treats, or make toys for dogs at the pound. Search
thrift shops for tennis balls, blankets and towels that that dog
shelters would need. Go there regularly and I'll bet that long before
12yrs old, Megan, with you Gwen, are helping out.

best of luck,
Claire

Jill Parmer

On Jan 11, 2009, at 2:54 AM, Gwen wrote:

> she wants a dog so badly <snip> What else can I do?

Volunteer at rescue organizations. Neighborhood pet care and walking.

If you need help finding a rescue organization, let me know... my
sister does dog rescue in San Diego, and is in touch with other
organizations and individuals around the country who do the same, so
she might know of some people in your area. My sister had a young
person and her mom come over to walk dogs a while back and she loved
having the help.

~Jill

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Margaret

Maybe a smaller rescue society would be more friendly than the humane
society. I know that in my town there is a woman who runs a rescue
society out of her house. I imagine that she would love someone to
come over and play/work with the dogs although I expect she would want
you to be there so that she didn't feel like she had to watch your
daughter. Maybe a smaller rescue society would work better. Check
out www.petfinder.com.

Maybe she could set up a dog walking business.

Maybe she could set up a doggie day-care-ish business where she would
visit their house and play with their dog at their house or take the
dog on a walk while the owners are at work. Dogs get lonely and she
would probably be happy to charge low enough rates that you would get
some happy takers.

Maybe she could set up a business as a pet sitter where you two could
visit during the day to play with and feed the pets. I know cats can
get away with a visit a day (scoop, feed, pet). I don't know if you
would need to stay in the house all day with the dog... but it sounds
like she might not mind that :)

In my area there are some parks with farm animals. They have rabbits,
but no dogs. If you have a park like that in your area, they might be
more flexible about volunteering. The zoo might have rabbits too.
Again, I think you would need to volunteer with her for them to say
yes.

That's all I can think of for now, but hopefully there are some new
ideas in there.

Margaret



On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Gwen <willow_selene@...> wrote:
> Megan(7) loves animals. Right now, rabbits and dogs are her favorite
> domestic animals.
>
> We have a cat and a rabbit (Flemish Giant). But what Megan would really
> like is a dog. Megan wants a dog more than anything. A dog isn't possible
> right now with our living situation (we live with my mom, it is her
> house/her rules and the yard isn't properly fenced. The fencing will be
> repaired in the spring...and I am hoping to revisit the issue then....but I
> don't expect her to change her mind). Adding a rabbit or cat or gerbil or
> mouse or rat or anything like that also isn't an option for the same
> reasons. I'm a cat person by nature, but she wants a dog so badly that I'm
> turning into a dog person!
>
> As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work with or be
> around animals. Our local humane society has a very firm "you must be
> twelve years old" rule. Megan isn't interested in a 4-H club or anything
> like that and she specifically wants to work with rabbits or dogs.
>
> I met an officer from the local K-9 unit a few months ago and I plan to call
> him and ask if he has any suggestions. I plan to call the local rabbit
> rescue and ask if they accept volunteers. I will also email places that
> train service dogs in our area (Portland, OR). I can also make a list of
> breeds Megan likes and look into those rescues. She isn't picky about the
> breed. She just loves animals.
>
> We watch shows about dogs on tv (Dogs 101, Breed All About It, etc). There
> is a dog show this week we can go to (we've watched them on tv, but this
> will be our first "in person"). I am very grateful for patient dog owners
> at pet stores who let Megan pet their dogs and ask questions. We have dog
> books and talk about dogs all the time. She has several vet games for the
> computer and the DS.
>
> Is there anything I've missed? What else can I do?
>
> Gwen
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Margaret

http://www.sittercity.com/ may help you find customers. I believe
it is free for you to list yourself as someone offering services.


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Margaret <margaretz@...> wrote:
> Maybe a smaller rescue society would be more friendly than the humane
> society. I know that in my town there is a woman who runs a rescue
> society out of her house. I imagine that she would love someone to
> come over and play/work with the dogs although I expect she would want
> you to be there so that she didn't feel like she had to watch your
> daughter. Maybe a smaller rescue society would work better. Check
> out www.petfinder.com.
>
> Maybe she could set up a dog walking business.
>
> Maybe she could set up a doggie day-care-ish business where she would
> visit their house and play with their dog at their house or take the
> dog on a walk while the owners are at work. Dogs get lonely and she
> would probably be happy to charge low enough rates that you would get
> some happy takers.
>
> Maybe she could set up a business as a pet sitter where you two could
> visit during the day to play with and feed the pets. I know cats can
> get away with a visit a day (scoop, feed, pet). I don't know if you
> would need to stay in the house all day with the dog... but it sounds
> like she might not mind that :)
>
> In my area there are some parks with farm animals. They have rabbits,
> but no dogs. If you have a park like that in your area, they might be
> more flexible about volunteering. The zoo might have rabbits too.
> Again, I think you would need to volunteer with her for them to say
> yes.
>
> That's all I can think of for now, but hopefully there are some new
> ideas in there.
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Gwen <willow_selene@...> wrote:
>> Megan(7) loves animals. Right now, rabbits and dogs are her favorite
>> domestic animals.
>>
>> We have a cat and a rabbit (Flemish Giant). But what Megan would really
>> like is a dog. Megan wants a dog more than anything. A dog isn't possible
>> right now with our living situation (we live with my mom, it is her
>> house/her rules and the yard isn't properly fenced. The fencing will be
>> repaired in the spring...and I am hoping to revisit the issue then....but I
>> don't expect her to change her mind). Adding a rabbit or cat or gerbil or
>> mouse or rat or anything like that also isn't an option for the same
>> reasons. I'm a cat person by nature, but she wants a dog so badly that I'm
>> turning into a dog person!
>>
>> As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work with or be
>> around animals. Our local humane society has a very firm "you must be
>> twelve years old" rule. Megan isn't interested in a 4-H club or anything
>> like that and she specifically wants to work with rabbits or dogs.
>>
>> I met an officer from the local K-9 unit a few months ago and I plan to call
>> him and ask if he has any suggestions. I plan to call the local rabbit
>> rescue and ask if they accept volunteers. I will also email places that
>> train service dogs in our area (Portland, OR). I can also make a list of
>> breeds Megan likes and look into those rescues. She isn't picky about the
>> breed. She just loves animals.
>>
>> We watch shows about dogs on tv (Dogs 101, Breed All About It, etc). There
>> is a dog show this week we can go to (we've watched them on tv, but this
>> will be our first "in person"). I am very grateful for patient dog owners
>> at pet stores who let Megan pet their dogs and ask questions. We have dog
>> books and talk about dogs all the time. She has several vet games for the
>> computer and the DS.
>>
>> Is there anything I've missed? What else can I do?
>>
>> Gwen
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>

Margaret

Another thought - perhaps once the fence is fixed your mom would be OK
with fostering a dog instead of adopting one. It's a much smaller
commitment!

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Margaret <margaretz@...> wrote:
> http://www.sittercity.com/ may help you find customers. I believe
> it is free for you to list yourself as someone offering services.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Margaret <margaretz@...> wrote:
>> Maybe a smaller rescue society would be more friendly than the humane
>> society. I know that in my town there is a woman who runs a rescue
>> society out of her house. I imagine that she would love someone to
>> come over and play/work with the dogs although I expect she would want
>> you to be there so that she didn't feel like she had to watch your
>> daughter. Maybe a smaller rescue society would work better. Check
>> out www.petfinder.com.
>>
>> Maybe she could set up a dog walking business.
>>
>> Maybe she could set up a doggie day-care-ish business where she would
>> visit their house and play with their dog at their house or take the
>> dog on a walk while the owners are at work. Dogs get lonely and she
>> would probably be happy to charge low enough rates that you would get
>> some happy takers.
>>
>> Maybe she could set up a business as a pet sitter where you two could
>> visit during the day to play with and feed the pets. I know cats can
>> get away with a visit a day (scoop, feed, pet). I don't know if you
>> would need to stay in the house all day with the dog... but it sounds
>> like she might not mind that :)
>>
>> In my area there are some parks with farm animals. They have rabbits,
>> but no dogs. If you have a park like that in your area, they might be
>> more flexible about volunteering. The zoo might have rabbits too.
>> Again, I think you would need to volunteer with her for them to say
>> yes.
>>
>> That's all I can think of for now, but hopefully there are some new
>> ideas in there.
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Gwen <willow_selene@...> wrote:
>>> Megan(7) loves animals. Right now, rabbits and dogs are her favorite
>>> domestic animals.
>>>
>>> We have a cat and a rabbit (Flemish Giant). But what Megan would really
>>> like is a dog. Megan wants a dog more than anything. A dog isn't possible
>>> right now with our living situation (we live with my mom, it is her
>>> house/her rules and the yard isn't properly fenced. The fencing will be
>>> repaired in the spring...and I am hoping to revisit the issue then....but I
>>> don't expect her to change her mind). Adding a rabbit or cat or gerbil or
>>> mouse or rat or anything like that also isn't an option for the same
>>> reasons. I'm a cat person by nature, but she wants a dog so badly that I'm
>>> turning into a dog person!
>>>
>>> As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work with or be
>>> around animals. Our local humane society has a very firm "you must be
>>> twelve years old" rule. Megan isn't interested in a 4-H club or anything
>>> like that and she specifically wants to work with rabbits or dogs.
>>>
>>> I met an officer from the local K-9 unit a few months ago and I plan to call
>>> him and ask if he has any suggestions. I plan to call the local rabbit
>>> rescue and ask if they accept volunteers. I will also email places that
>>> train service dogs in our area (Portland, OR). I can also make a list of
>>> breeds Megan likes and look into those rescues. She isn't picky about the
>>> breed. She just loves animals.
>>>
>>> We watch shows about dogs on tv (Dogs 101, Breed All About It, etc). There
>>> is a dog show this week we can go to (we've watched them on tv, but this
>>> will be our first "in person"). I am very grateful for patient dog owners
>>> at pet stores who let Megan pet their dogs and ask questions. We have dog
>>> books and talk about dogs all the time. She has several vet games for the
>>> computer and the DS.
>>>
>>> Is there anything I've missed? What else can I do?
>>>
>>> Gwen
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Jenny C

"As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work with
or be around animals. Our local humane society has a very firm "you
must be twelve years old" rule."

This was our experience too. We checked EVERY humane society animal
shelter in the Portland area. None of them let kids help directly with
the animals. Kids can help by doing fundraisers or donating physical
items. By the time Chamille was old enough to help, she had moved on to
other things. It was kind of sad really.

There is one organization specific to our area, called Oregon Friends of
Shelter Animals <http://www.ofosa.org/volunteer.htm> . Chamille made
their myspace page for them. I know they have the same kind of age
policy, but they are always desperate for helpers, especially weekends
at petstores. They may be willing to have a child tag along side mom
while mom helps with pet adoptions.

They agreed to have Chamille volunteer to make their myspace page
without even knowing that she was underage. When they found out her
age, they didn't seem to care and kept trying to get us to do more
volunteer stuff. There may be other organizations like that one around.

Chamille was much the way you describe your daughter. She wanted a dog
more than anything else in all the world. We ended up getting a dog.
My husband was the main objecter here. I finally convinced him by
saying that if we wait too much longer to decide, the dog will be ours
and not hers, because it will end up living her much longer than she
will.

What is your mom's main objection to having a dog? I find our cats
probably do more damage than our dog ever has, and not all dogs are
barkers or diggers or howlers.





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Jenny C

>
> Could she offer to walk dogs for neighbors?
>


Chamille did this for a while, and watched pets while people were out of
town. She got amazing references that way!

carelia

On Jan 11, 2009, at 1:54 AM, Gwen wrote:

> Our local humane society has a very firm "you must be twelve years
> old" rule.

If you don't mind driving (I saw you were in Portland), the Corvallis
shelter allows 8-15 year olds to volunteer with an adult partner.

Pet sitting or dog walking sound like really good options too. What
about lunchtime dog walking for people who are at work all day?

If she just wants to play with dogs, you might find a nearby off-
leash dog park, and just go visit one. My son struck up all kinds of
friendships (human and canine both) at the one we used to go to.

**********
carelia ~ C. Norton
carelia@...
http://PlantImpossibleGardens.blogspot.com/

"Mum" to Katherine (21), Christopher (17), and Aaron (9), and
"Moogie" to Ashlynn (18 mos)

Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was
misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus,
and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever
took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood. - Ralph Waldo Emerson






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Jenny C

> saying that if we wait too much longer to decide, the dog will be ours
> and not hers, because it will end up living her much longer than she
> will.


Because it will end up living with US (the parents) much longer.... the
way I wrote it doesn't even make sense up there!

Margaret

Helping older people with their dogs is an awesome idea. I bet you
could put an ad up at the local senior center. It could be very
rewarding in lots of ways!

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:42 AM, wat_dox <clayrocka@...> wrote:
> ---
>>
>> We watch shows about dogs on tv (Dogs 101, Breed All About It,
> etc). There is a dog show this week we can go to (we've watched them
> on tv, but this will be our first "in person"). I am very grateful
> for patient dog owners at pet stores who let Megan pet their dogs and
> ask questions. We have dog books and talk about dogs all the time.
> She has several vet games for the computer and the DS.
>>
>> Is there anything I've missed? What else can I do?
>>
>> Gwen
>>
>
> hi,
>
> i think you could look for people with dog/s that could do with a
> some help in caring for and exercising them. Particularly older
> people or perhaps with disability. So, you could contact local vets
> for instance, explain what you are offering and they might put you in
> touch with someone for example who might be arthritic and would love
> help brushing their dog, taking it for walks etcetera. Similarly -
> find your version of what in Australia is "guide dogs for the blind"
> or other therapy dogs living with disabled people... I could see a
> wealth of opportunities for all of you, with this approach. It should
> also avoid the 'insurance bogey'. Just get to know a couple of dogs
> and their owners and visit regularly. Maybe put an add on a notice
> board at a retirement village that allows pets?
>
> I know of a family who used to dog and house sit for a (very rich)
> couple for periods of a month or more - living in luxury and caring
> for a lovely dog....
>
> Down the road a ways, Megan might start her own business, offering
> in home petcare and so on.
>
> In the meantime keep watching dog stuff - I highly recomend a British
> dog trainer - Victoria Stilwell - who had a show "It's me or the
> dog" - she really knows her stuff!
>
> Bake healthy dog treats, or make toys for dogs at the pound. Search
> thrift shops for tennis balls, blankets and towels that that dog
> shelters would need. Go there regularly and I'll bet that long before
> 12yrs old, Megan, with you Gwen, are helping out.
>
> best of luck,
> Claire
>
>

Jessica

Are there any other rescue groups near enough for y'all? If so, check them out. Our local animal shelter has a rule that you need to be 13 or older to volunteer without a parent, otherwise, a parent or other guardian type person needs to be there...

Something to be aware of if you have pets, by going to shelters, there might be a higher risk of bringing "things" home to the other animals, even if you wash up, etc... we rescued a dog that was wandering around in our neighborhood, she was pregnant, skinny/hungry, scratched up, gave birth 10 days after we found her/took her in... when the puppies were around 7 weeks old, we had problems with parvo...everything is fine, now.. just something to be aware of.

Animals find us: you see, we have a sign around our house that says "free cat & dog food" that only cats & dogs can see! :)

Some of the other ideas, petsitting, etc., that others have suggested are great ones...maybe also see about helping out at a vet's office?

> > As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work with or be
> > around animals. Our local humane society has a very firm "you must be
> > twelve years old" rule.

Cheers,
Jessica

Gwen

The objections to a dog (remember, these are my mom's, not mine):

dogs are messy
dog pee kills the grass in the yard
dog poop in the yard is gross
dogs shed
she doesn't like having "stuff" out so a water dish and/or food dish left on the floor bothers her

My mom has never wanted a dog, but when I was nineteen (no longer living at home), she bought my brother a black lab for Christmas.  He was seventeen and had always wanted a dog, but hadn't asked for one in years.  The dog was very loving and sweet, but no one spent any time with her.  With no training or attention, she was a handful.  She also grew bigger than a male lab, so she this massive force of energy who got into everything.

She has brought up the idea of getting a dog a few times and then she gets mired in all the reasons she doesn't want one.  At one point, she suggested the dog could live in the backyard and the kids could visit it there.  That would be so unfair to a dog!

My mom doesn't see fun or toys or projects.  She just sees messes and things to clean up

Gwen


--- On Sun, 1/11/09, k <katherand@...> wrote:

So your mom would not allow an indoor dog that is smaller right? It seems
you've covered many of your options and that you've probably already
asked
the question I've asked. We have a dachshund who is very very docile and
mild. If jumping on the furniture or on people or something like that is
the problem, you could research ways to suggest
or explain to the dog such
ideas and help the dog avoid certain behaviors.

~Katherine





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Joanna Murphy

I wanted to chime in again for looking up other organizations. Around our area there are
several, and each of them have their own policies about who and what age can volunteer.
Some have an age thing, and others don't.

Joanna

harmonyhogan

> As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work with
or be around animals.  Our local humane society has a very firm "you
must be twelve years old" rule. 

Check with local kennels and see if she could volunteer there.
Harmony

Danielle Conger

harmonyhogan wrote:
>
>
> > As a comprise, Megan wants me to explore chances for her to work with
> or be around animals. Our local humane society has a very firm "you
> must be twelve years old" rule.
>
> Check with local kennels and see if she could volunteer there.
>


What about a local farm? Sorry if that idea's already been tossed out there.

--
~~Danielle
Emily (11), Julia (10), Sam (8)
http://www.organiclearning.blogspot.com