Lara Miller

I just don't get the D & D hell, fire and brimstone thing! My kids
LOVE it and when I say love, it is their very favorite thing to play
with their dad. Dh, by the way is the world's best Dungeon Master.
He really gets into it and uses all kinds of funny voices and acts
out the parts and creates a very exciting game for them. Just the
other night, my daughter cried actual tears of proud joy when she
killed her first dragon and saved her brothers lives. Oh, yes, they
are all doomed with all that nonsense @@ (doesn't that mean "rolling
eyes"?)

I actually had a mom in my neighborhood ask me one time if I was a
"white witch" since I am very into herbal healing. lol Lots of the
witches executed during all the witch hunts were actually midwives.
They were thought to have magical powers with all of their secrets of
birth and plants. Fear keeps lots of people in line. It can be a
very powerful motivator, that is unless you know the real truth....

Blessings,

Lara Miller
Currently in Tucson Mountain County Park!
http://www.mytripjournal.com/millerfamily






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Sandra Dodd

-=-Fear keeps lots of people in line. It can be a
very powerful motivator, that is unless you know the real truth....-=-



They're sure they know the real truth, which is why they're not
afraid. I was Southern Baptist until I was seventeen and went back
to church and told them I wanted to remove my membership from their
rolls. They had no idea how to do that. People had transferred
memberships to other churches, but to just cross me out? That didn't
make sense to them. I had to be counted as just gone for now. I
knew they loved their statistics, and I didn't want to be "absent"
for the rest of my life, but there it was. I was baptized in that
church, they had seen evidence that I was "really saved," and I had
done more Bible study and more choir singing (junior and adult at the
same time for a year or two) than any other single kid at that
church, so where would they mark that I'd gone? Humanism?
Hedonism? Hippieville? Yet I was gone.

But as to "real truth," they have a book they don't doubt.

We have logic (leaning to our own understanding) and Satan. And D&D.

The story of Kirby multiplying by 18 in his head is a D&D success
story. <g>

http://sandradodd.com/timestables

The story of Kirby figuring out sales tax in his head, selling stuff
for several hours without a tax table or a calculator, is a D&D
tournament running story. Kirby knows LOTS about management and
organization from having help run and judging and explaining and
overseeing various D&D tournaments during the years he worked for
Active Imagination. Not in the store, but in hotel banquet rooms and
the centers of malls and city buildings. (No, it was Pokemon in the
mall.)

For my kids it was the math from the D&D dice that I remember most as
an unschooling mom who didn't play the game. <g>



Sandra

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Amanda Horein

-=-=-=-=-=-
For my kids it was the math from the D&D dice that I remember most as
an unschooling mom who didn't play the game. <g>
-=-=-=-=-=-

*I* was actually quite bad at even basic math before dh corralled me into
playing D&D and Magic The Gathering. I am much better now :)

--
Amanda
http://whatmykidstaughtme.blogspot.com/


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Lara Miller

I guess I meant "truth" in so many areas of life. Not just religion,
but unschooling, consumerism, housing, government, medical care....

Dh and i were talking about this conversation this afternoon and
started questioning how people come to believe "their truth".

We agreed we both believed in dinosaurs (I grew up in a Southern
Baptist school that taught that they didn't even exist!) even though
neither one of us has personally dug up any bones, done any
scientific research or even really understand carbon dating very
well. So, we take as fact that someone else has done it and we chose
to believe it. Maybe a bit of a stretch on the theory, but an
interesting exercise to pull back and question the "truth". I know
many of the people at my childhood church believe to this day that
those dinosaurs are one big hoax, that is their truth, supported by
evidence in their book. Did we really land on the moon? Is our
nation really the good guys? Who killed the electric car? I could
go on, but really I think I should stop now <bwg>

Blessings,

Lara Miller
Currently in Tucson Mountain County Park!
http://www.mytripjournal.com/millerfamily

On Mar 6, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Sandra Dodd wrote:

> -=-Fear keeps lots of people in line. It can be a
> very powerful motivator, that is unless you know the real truth....-=-
>
> They're sure they know the real truth, which is why they're not
> afraid.
>



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Sandra Dodd

This isn't about D&D so much as it's about the idea of truth. Here's
a quote from an e-mail I just got (and it's in full below, but isn't
important to the discussion):

-=-All of our science courses are enjoyable, thoroughly researched,
and based on Scriptural truth. To learn more, visit our web site:
http://www.thefathersbooks.com -=-


It's in context below. Homeschooling has more of this division than
any other area I know, where one faction (a big one, with money, in
the case of homeschooling) believes some of the others are not just
ignoring truth, but endangering their children's lives, futures,
souls. These families' kids won't be playing D&D.

What any one unschooling family believes won't be the same as all the
others. Some are very focussed on ecology or vegetarianism or new
age something or a particular religion or stock car racing or RV
travel. That's okay!! The principles of unschooling will work in
any of those cases. And I've seen very religious unschooling
families that were doing a good job of balancing things.

Go easy on defining "truth" (if it's not against your religion to do
so).

Sandra
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