Sarah Charlton

Hello there

I am new to the concept of unschooling, but it excites me. I am Mum to Jack 4, partner to Paul. We live in a great village called Forest Row in East Sussex, UK. Thought I would do a little intro as I've been lurking for a very little while.

I guess I've always resisted and questioned and challenged and pushed my own comfort zone. We have attachment parented and I am now very attracted to unschooling for our son and for myself, and scared too. Especially about how to manage my (big) fear that comes up around telling my parents/siblings that Jack is not going to go to school. He does a couple of mornings at a Steiner Kindergarden at the moment and I am trying to get back into a little working from home for myself. I managed to push homeschooling/unschooling to the back of my mind but it's come up again even bigger!

I am working on living magically, trusting that the money will manifest that we require. That I have enough energy, inspiration, courage, wisdom, to go with following this dream vision.

Um, so hello
Sarah Charlton



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Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice From: Sandra Dodd
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Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice
Posted by: "Sandra Dodd" Sandra@... sandralynndodd
Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:36 am (PST)
-=-She does have a college degree and that was instrumental in landingher the job. Her degree is in Recreation and Leisure Studies. SheLOVED her degree program - felt like all the professors really thoughtlike unschoolers - she'd joke that she was majoring in unschooling -because they SO understood that people really learn more from what areusually called recreation or leisure activities than from conventionaleducational activities.-=-Because the question was about "non-collegiate paths that lead to a fairly decent income" I want to point out that Pam's daughter didn't follow a path to prepare for college. She unschooled. She did cool stuff and learned from it, she didn't learn in order to hope to do cool stuff in the future.It's important to get away from "paths," collegiate or otherwise.My oldest is working a cool job he likes and his friends are envious and his "path" was to start playing video games when he was a baby and never stop. His hours aren't "normal." His "path" to that was staying up as late as he wanted and going to bed when he needed to.The exploration of the world can't have an end goal in site, or people start making choices toward the goal (college, money) instead of doing the interesting things to learn the unusual things that will eventually lead them to people and places where they will be welcomed and appreciated for what they have learned naturally.Keep your life and your child's life busy and rich with real-world experiences and activities. Get them cameras or leatherworking kits if they want them. Don't be stingy about helping them attend a conference or a camp where they'll meet other people interested in what they're interested in. If they're playing Rock Band, spring for some extra songs and another guitar.If you are dwelling in thoughts of the future, you'll miss January 4 and the wonders you might have discovered.Sandra[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice
Posted by: "Pamela Sorooshian" pamsoroosh@... psoroosh
Fri Jan 4, 2008 8:15 pm (PST)
On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Sandra Dodd wrote:> Because the question was about "non-collegiate paths that lead to a> fairly decent income" I want to point out that Pam's daughter didn't> follow a path to prepare for college. She unschooled. She did cool> stuff and learned from it, she didn't learn in order to hope to do> cool stuff in the future.This is so true. Even when she took some classes at our local community college, she took them for their own sake, and just took what really excited her. She wasn't taking them to fulfill college requirements or anything like that. She took voice classes and ceramics classes and photography and so on. We used them in the same way others went to a dance studio or karate studio, etc. Not as "going to college." As she got up into usual college age, maybe 19 or 20, she decided she wanted to get a degree and only then did she even look at what the requirements were.Again, I recommend, "The Uncollege Alternative," especially as inspiration for those who feel uncomfortable about not being on some sort of college-prep path. As a college professor, I'm really firmly convinced that most young adults would benefit much much more from college, anyway, if they would go off and do things other than college at least for a while, first.-pam[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice
Posted by: "Venus Cassandra" chessanarch@... chessanarch
Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:08 pm (PST)
Sandra,A beautiful response!--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:>> -=-She does have a college degree and that was instrumental in landing> her the job. Her degree is in Recreation and Leisure Studies. She> LOVED her degree program - felt like all the professors really thought> like unschoolers - she'd joke that she was majoring in unschooling -> because they SO understood that people really learn more from what are> usually called recreation or leisure activities than from conventional> educational activities.-=-> > > > Because the question was about "non-collegiate paths that lead to a > fairly decent income" I want to point out that Pam's daughter didn't > follow a path to prepare for college. She unschooled. She did cool > stuff and learned from it, she didn't learn in order to hope to do > cool stuff in the future.> > It's important to get away from "paths," collegiate or otherwise.> > My oldest is working a cool job he likes and his friends are envious > and his "path" was to start playing video games when he was a baby > and never stop. His hours aren't "normal." His "path" to that was > staying up as late as he wanted and going to bed when he needed to.> > The exploration of the world can't have an end goal in site, or > people start making choices toward the goal (college, money) instead > of doing the interesting things to learn the unusual things that will > eventually lead them to people and places where they will be welcomed > and appreciated for what they have learned naturally.> > Keep your life and your child's life busy and rich with real-world > experiences and activities. Get them cameras or leatherworking kits > if they want them. Don't be stingy about helping them attend a > conference or a camp where they'll meet other people interested in > what they're interested in. If they're playing Rock Band, spring for > some extra songs and another guitar.> > If you are dwelling in thoughts of the future, you'll miss January 4 > and the wonders you might have discovered.> > Sandra> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>

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-=-. Especially about how to manage my (big) fear that comes up
around telling my parents/siblings that Jack is not going to go to
school. -=-

Instead of saying he's not going to school, maybe you could say
you're going to wait a year and try something, and then if you try it
a second year, you could say "We're going to do this as long as it's
working so well."

If parents think a situation is being carefully monitored and that
it's probably temporary, they're less likely to be anxious.

Sandra

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Anthony Aduhene

Hello Sarah,
just wanted to say hi as my husband is from West Sussex (Worthing). We have
just been there this weekend to visit family and friends (we now live in
nottingham). I love that part of the world by the sea. Anyway I don't find
many people from the UK who unschool so welcome aboard.
blessings
michelle
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Sarah Charlton
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Hello and introduction



Hello there

I am new to the concept of unschooling, but it excites me. I am Mum to
Jack 4, partner to Paul. We live in a great village called Forest Row in
East Sussex, UK. Thought I would do a little intro as I've been lurking for
a very little while.

I guess I've always resisted and questioned and challenged and pushed my
own comfort zone. We have attachment parented and I am now very attracted to
unschooling for our son and for myself, and scared too. Especially about how
to manage my (big) fear that comes up around telling my parents/siblings
that Jack is not going to go to school. He does a couple of mornings at a
Steiner Kindergarden at the moment and I am trying to get back into a little
working from home for myself. I managed to push homeschooling/unschooling to
the back of my mind but it's come up again even bigger!

I am working on living magically, trusting that the money will manifest
that we require. That I have enough energy, inspiration, courage, wisdom, to
go with following this dream vision.

Um, so hello
Sarah Charlton


Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:01:04 +0000From:
[email protected]: [email protected]:
[AlwaysLearning] Digest Number 2748

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1a.
Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice From: Sandra Dodd
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1c.
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Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice
Posted by: "Sandra Dodd" Sandra@... sandralynndodd
Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:36 am (PST)
-=-She does have a college degree and that was instrumental in landingher
the job. Her degree is in Recreation and Leisure Studies. SheLOVED her
degree program - felt like all the professors really thoughtlike
unschoolers - she'd joke that she was majoring in unschooling -because they
SO understood that people really learn more from what areusually called
recreation or leisure activities than from conventionaleducational
activities.-=-Because the question was about "non-collegiate paths that lead
to a fairly decent income" I want to point out that Pam's daughter didn't
follow a path to prepare for college. She unschooled. She did cool stuff and
learned from it, she didn't learn in order to hope to do cool stuff in the
future.It's important to get away from "paths," collegiate or otherwise.My
oldest is working a cool job he likes and his friends are envious and his
"path" was to start playing video games when he was a baby and never stop.
His hours aren't "normal." His "path" to that was staying up as late as he
wanted and going to bed when he needed to.The exploration of the world can't
have an end goal in site, or people start making choices toward the goal
(college, money) instead of doing the interesting things to learn the
unusual things that will eventually lead them to people and places where
they will be welcomed and appreciated for what they have learned
naturally.Keep your life and your child's life busy and rich with real-world
experiences and activities. Get them cameras or leatherworking kits if they
want them. Don't be stingy about helping them attend a conference or a camp
where they'll meet other people interested in what they're interested in. If
they're playing Rock Band, spring for some extra songs and another guitar.If
you are dwelling in thoughts of the future, you'll miss January 4 and the
wonders you might have discovered.Sandra[Non-text portions of this message
have been removed]

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Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice
Posted by: "Pamela Sorooshian" pamsoroosh@... psoroosh
Fri Jan 4, 2008 8:15 pm (PST)
On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Sandra Dodd wrote:> Because the question was
about "non-collegiate paths that lead to a> fairly decent income" I want to
point out that Pam's daughter didn't> follow a path to prepare for college.
She unschooled. She did cool> stuff and learned from it, she didn't learn in
order to hope to do> cool stuff in the future.This is so true. Even when she
took some classes at our local community college, she took them for their
own sake, and just took what really excited her. She wasn't taking them to
fulfill college requirements or anything like that. She took voice classes
and ceramics classes and photography and so on. We used them in the same way
others went to a dance studio or karate studio, etc. Not as "going to
college." As she got up into usual college age, maybe 19 or 20, she decided
she wanted to get a degree and only then did she even look at what the
requirements were.Again, I recommend, "The Uncollege Alternative,"
especially as inspiration for those who feel uncomfortable about not being
on some sort of college-prep path. As a college professor, I'm really firmly
convinced that most young adults would benefit much much more from college,
anyway, if they would go off and do things other than college at least for a
while, first.-pam[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice
Posted by: "Venus Cassandra" chessanarch@... chessanarch
Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:08 pm (PST)
Sandra,A beautiful response!--- In [email protected], Sandra
Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:>> -=-She does have a college degree and that was
instrumental in landing> her the job. Her degree is in Recreation and
Leisure Studies. She> LOVED her degree program - felt like all the
professors really thought> like unschoolers - she'd joke that she was
majoring in unschooling -> because they SO understood that people really
learn more from what are> usually called recreation or leisure activities
than from conventional> educational activities.-=-> > > > Because the
question was about "non-collegiate paths that lead to a > fairly decent
income" I want to point out that Pam's daughter didn't > follow a path to
prepare for college. She unschooled. She did cool > stuff and learned from
it, she didn't learn in order to hope to do > cool stuff in the future.> >
It's important to get away from "paths," collegiate or otherwise.> > My
oldest is working a cool job he likes and his friends are envious > and his
"path" was to start playing video games when he was a baby > and never stop.
His hours aren't "normal." His "path" to that was > staying up as late as he
wanted and going to bed when he needed to.> > The exploration of the world
can't have an end goal in site, or > people start making choices toward the
goal (college, money) instead > of doing the interesting things to learn the
unusual things that will > eventually lead them to people and places where
they will be welcomed > and appreciated for what they have learned
naturally.> > Keep your life and your child's life busy and rich with
real-world > experiences and activities. Get them cameras or leatherworking
kits > if they want them. Don't be stingy about helping them attend a >
conference or a camp where they'll meet other people interested in > what
they're interested in. If they're playing Rock Band, spring for > some extra
songs and another guitar.> > If you are dwelling in thoughts of the future,
you'll miss January 4 > and the wonders you might have discovered.> >
Sandra> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>

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-=-Anyway I don't find
many people from the UK who unschool so welcome aboard.-=-



There's Schuyler, who's on this list, whose blog is here:

http://waynforth.blogspot.com/



Looks like her kids were playing some kind of live whack-a-mole, in
wellies...



Sandra




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ENSEMBLE S-WAYNFORTH

Actually there are a few folk on the unschooling blog ring who are in the UK. There is also an autonomous education yahoo group (I think it is AEUK) from the UK. I haven't read there for ages. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AEUK/

My experience is that there are more people on the unschooling end of the spectrum in the UK in the south than in the north, but almost no one who is actually unschooling. In and around Newcastle,when we lived in Sedgefield, near Stockton -on-Tees bullying or SEN were the main reasons for Home-educating. Not folks who were walking away from schooling, but folks for whom the school environment was not a welcoming experience. In Norfolk, where we live now, there are more people who are actively choosing not to put their children in school than who are choosing to remove them from school because of difficulties.

We drive near Nottingham occasionally on our drive oop nort to see friends.

Schuyler
www.waynforth.blogspot.com



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From: Anthony Aduhene <anthony@...>
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Sent: Sunday, 6 January, 2008 9:00:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AlwaysLearning] Hello and introduction

Hello Sarah,
just wanted to say hi as my husband is from West Sussex (Worthing). We have
just been there this weekend to visit family and friends (we now live in
nottingham). I love that part of the world by the sea. Anyway I don't find
many people from the UK who unschool so welcome aboard.
blessings
michelle
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Sarah Charlton
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Hello and introduction



Hello there

I am new to the concept of unschooling, but it excites me. I am Mum to
Jack 4, partner to Paul. We live in a great village called Forest Row in
East Sussex, UK. Thought I would do a little intro as I've been lurking for
a very little while.

I guess I've always resisted and questioned and challenged and pushed my
own comfort zone. We have attachment parented and I am now very attracted to
unschooling for our son and for myself, and scared too. Especially about how
to manage my (big) fear that comes up around telling my parents/siblings
that Jack is not going to go to school. He does a couple of mornings at a
Steiner Kindergarden at the moment and I am trying to get back into a little
working from home for myself. I managed to push homeschooling/unschooling to
the back of my mind but it's come up again even bigger!

I am working on living magically, trusting that the money will manifest
that we require. That I have enough energy, inspiration, courage, wisdom, to
go with following this dream vision.

Um, so hello
Sarah Charlton


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Re: Seeking Post-Highschool Unschooling Advice
Posted by: "Sandra Dodd" Sandra@... sandralynndodd
Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:36 am (PST)
-=-She does have a college degree and that was instrumental in landingher
the job. Her degree is in Recreation and Leisure Studies. SheLOVED her
degree program - felt like all the professors really thoughtlike
unschoolers - she'd joke that she was majoring in unschooling -because they
SO understood that people really learn more from what areusually called
recreation or leisure activities than from conventionaleducational
activities.-=-Because the question was about "non-collegiate paths that lead
to a fairly decent income" I want to point out that Pam's daughter didn't
follow a path to prepare for college. She unschooled. She did cool stuff and
learned from it, she didn't learn in order to hope to do cool stuff in the
future.It's important to get away from "paths," collegiate or otherwise.My
oldest is working a cool job he likes and his friends are envious and his
"path" was to start playing video games when he was a baby and never stop.
His hours aren't "normal." His "path" to that was staying up as late as he
wanted and going to bed when he needed to.The exploration of the world can't
have an end goal in site, or people start making choices toward the goal
(college, money) instead of doing the interesting things to learn the
unusual things that will eventually lead them to people and places where
they will be welcomed and appreciated for what they have learned
naturally.Keep your life and your child's life busy and rich with real-world
experiences and activities. Get them cameras or leatherworking kits if they
want them. Don't be stingy about helping them attend a conference or a camp
where they'll meet other people interested in what they're interested in. If
they're playing Rock Band, spring for some extra songs and another guitar.If
you are dwelling in thoughts of the future, you'll miss January 4 and the
wonders you might have discovered.Sandra[Non-text portions of this message
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Posted by: "Pamela Sorooshian" pamsoroosh@... psoroosh
Fri Jan 4, 2008 8:15 pm (PST)
On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Sandra Dodd wrote:> Because the question was
about "non-collegiate paths that lead to a> fairly decent income" I want to
point out that Pam's daughter didn't> follow a path to prepare for college.
She unschooled. She did cool> stuff and learned from it, she didn't learn in
order to hope to do> cool stuff in the future.This is so true. Even when she
took some classes at our local community college, she took them for their
own sake, and just took what really excited her. She wasn't taking them to
fulfill college requirements or anything like that. She took voice classes
and ceramics classes and photography and so on. We used them in the same way
others went to a dance studio or karate studio, etc. Not as "going to
college." As she got up into usual college age, maybe 19 or 20, she decided
she wanted to get a degree and only then did she even look at what the
requirements were.Again, I recommend, "The Uncollege Alternative,"
especially as inspiration for those who feel uncomfortable about not being
on some sort of college-prep path. As a college professor, I'm really firmly
convinced that most young adults would benefit much much more from college,
anyway, if they would go off and do things other than college at least for a
while, first.-pam[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Posted by: "Venus Cassandra" chessanarch@... chessanarch
Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:08 pm (PST)
Sandra,A beautiful response!--- In [email protected], Sandra
Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:>> -=-She does have a college degree and that was
instrumental in landing> her the job. Her degree is in Recreation and
Leisure Studies. She> LOVED her degree program - felt like all the
professors really thought> like unschoolers - she'd joke that she was
majoring in unschooling -> because they SO understood that people really
learn more from what are> usually called recreation or leisure activities
than from conventional> educational activities.-=-> > > > Because the
question was about "non-collegiate paths that lead to a > fairly decent
income" I want to point out that Pam's daughter didn't > follow a path to
prepare for college. She unschooled. She did cool > stuff and learned from
it, she didn't learn in order to hope to do > cool stuff in the future.> >
It's important to get away from "paths," collegiate or otherwise.> > My
oldest is working a cool job he likes and his friends are envious > and his
"path" was to start playing video games when he was a baby > and never stop.
His hours aren't "normal." His "path" to that was > staying up as late as he
wanted and going to bed when he needed to.> > The exploration of the world
can't have an end goal in site, or > people start making choices toward the
goal (college, money) instead > of doing the interesting things to learn the
unusual things that will > eventually lead them to people and places where
they will be welcomed > and appreciated for what they have learned
naturally.> > Keep your life and your child's life busy and rich with
real-world > experiences and activities. Get them cameras or leatherworking
kits > if they want them. Don't be stingy about helping them attend a >
conference or a camp where they'll meet other people interested in > what
they're interested in. If they're playing Rock Band, spring for > some extra
songs and another guitar.> > If you are dwelling in thoughts of the future,
you'll miss January 4 > and the wonders you might have discovered.> >
Sandra> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>

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--- In [email protected], Sarah Charlton
<sarahjanecharlton@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello there
>
> I am new to the concept of unschooling, but it excites me. I am
Mum to Jack 4, partner to Paul. We live in a great village called
Forest Row in East Sussex, UK. Thought I would do a little intro as
I've been lurking for a very little while.
>
> I guess I've always resisted and questioned and challenged and
pushed my own comfort zone. We have attachment parented and I am now
very attracted to unschooling for our son and for myself, and scared
too. Especially about how to manage my (big) fear that comes up
around telling my parents/siblings that Jack is not going to go to
school. He does a couple of mornings at a Steiner Kindergarden at
the moment and I am trying to get back into a little working from
home for myself. I managed to push homeschooling/unschooling to the
back of my mind but it's come up again even bigger!
>
> I am working on living magically, trusting that the money will
manifest that we require. That I have enough energy, inspiration,
courage, wisdom, to go with following this dream vision.
>
> Um, so hello
> Sarah Charlton
>
>
>
>


Hi, Sarah

I vaguely remember Forest Row from when I lived in Sussex in the
1970s. You're in the Hundred Acre Woods of A A Milne's Winnie the
Pooh. :)

Good luck with everything! I'm sure all will be well.

Bob
(in Australia)