kristenhendricks55

My daughter (3yrs) loves to watch Dora, BAckyardigans, Diego.. she
picks up a ton of good info from them.

I have been so frustrated, though, by the cartoon "The Wonder Pets".
They say things in a baby language instead of saying it the way it
should be said. Instead of saying "trouble"... at times they will
say "twuh-bull". They do it with several words and it is so
frustrating to me!!

Being that we unchool to a certain extent and I let her learn in her
own way in her own time.. ( I try not to correct her on too many
things as well)... I really do NOT understand how to explain to her
that these animals on TV are saying things right one day and wrong the
next. Shes starting to pick up on some of the incorrect words they use.

What do you say to a three year old to tell her why they are doing
that? (Hell- I dont even know WHY they are doing it!!)

Steve & Tracy Schad

We love ³Wonder Pets² and it¹s message of helping animals and teamwork. If
the contrived, language impediment (I think the writers have them doing it
because they are trying to make them out to be cutesy, little,
singularly-helpless animals, nothing more.) bothers you, I¹d recommend
talking about it and how some people have difficulty saying words. Might be
a good opportunity to talk about not making fun of others.

That said, I¹ve had the same issue w/ Caillou, but DD loved him! I saw how
much joy he brought her, so I eventually just ignored it. She never tried to
imitate him.

I also had issues with Dora and Diego and their yelling EVERY SINGLE
THING!!! I used my own advice and took that as an opportunity to ask her why
she thought they had to use their voice like that and also explained why we
have ³outside²/²inside² voices. For example w/ inside voices, the library
where people are trying to read or sleep (we saw an older gentleman sleeping
there one day near the magazines); w/ outside voices, people love to run and
holler at the park in fun. She got it. LOL‹Dora is on right now!

HTH,
Tracy in MN


On 1/11/07 12:33 PM, "kristenhendricks55" <kristenhendricks55@...>
wrote:
> What do you say to a three year old to tell her why they are doing
> that?
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Sandra Dodd

-=-Being that we unchool to a certain extent and I let her learn in her
own way in her own time.. ( I try not to correct her on too many
things as well)... I really do NOT understand how to explain to her
that these animals on TV are saying things right one day and wrong the
next.-=-

That sentence seemed not to come to its conclusion.

Do you think if you unschooled for real that you would understand how
to explain it to her?

Elmo and Cookie Monster used baby talk. Do you know anyone who was
ruined by Sesame Street?

Sandra

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Sandra Dodd

-=-What do you say to a three year old to tell her why they are doing
that? (Hell- I dont even know WHY they are doing it!!)
-=-

Did she ask?

Does she herself have any baby talk words or pronunciations left in
her? Many three-year-olds do.

More children have been ruined by judgmental negativity in their moms
than anything else, I think.

Sandra

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[email protected]

> What do you say to a three year old to tell her why they are doing
> that? (Hell- I dont even know WHY they are doing it!!)

I'm not sure I'm understanding you.Why is that you feel the need to
explain that to her? Has she asked you why they speak like that?
If its out of her own curiosity, I'd simply explain that some people
(or characters!LOL!) move in and out of "baby talk" as they grow. If its
simply something that bothers /you/,I wouldn't mention it at all.
Or if its something you feel extremely irritated by, I don't see any
harm in saying -as you are watching the show together - "gee the way
they are talking drives me batty!" As long as you are not labeling it as
"bad" or "wrong" (because its not) Your dd will benefit from hearing you
express your opinions as long as she is also able and encouraged to
express her own.
~jennifer

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finnaland

I think every kid's show has at least one character who speaks in baby
talk. The pteradactyl in that dinosaur series can be really annoying
(to me). I don't feel I need to explain or correct my daughter. I
(and DH) don't speak in baby talk except when we are playing around.
Sometimes DD will imitate things she hears, but the words phase
themselves out as she moves on to other things.
A lot of parents get hung up on this but myself I'm just not worried.
I had two sets of cousins who spoke in twin talk when they were kids,
and as they got older and spent more time out and about with other
kids they gradually lost it. I know one mom right now whose 6 yr old
twins speak twin talk, and their school system has them in all sorts
of special needs classes because of it. Pretty sad.
My DD has a few words she mispronounces, my favorite is "mistAppeared"
for disappeared :)
I have a very successful (in the business world) adult friend who
can't pronounce certain words, like enzymes - she always says
"emzynes". It's no big deal!
So maybe those "annoying" characters are just representative of a
portion of the population who does "talk funny" and we don't need to
explain why they are different, they just speak that way.
In the words of Strawberry Shortcake, "It's our differences that make
us interesting and unique!"
HTH
--SK, DD 3.75

--- In [email protected], "kristenhendricks55"
<kristenhendricks55@...> wrote:
>
> My daughter (3yrs) loves to watch Dora, BAckyardigans, Diego.. she
> picks up a ton of good info from them.
>
> I have been so frustrated, though, by the cartoon "The Wonder Pets".
> They say things in a baby language instead of saying it the way it
> should be said. Instead of saying "trouble"... at times they will
> say "twuh-bull". They do it with several words and it is so
> frustrating to me!!
<snip>
> What do you say to a three year old to tell her why they are doing
> that? (Hell- I dont even know WHY they are doing it!!)
>

Sandra Dodd

-=-My DD has a few words she mispronounces, my favorite is
"mistAppeared"
for disappeared :) -=-

Holly used to say "lithing room" instead of "living room," before she
could read.

She had the COOLEST word, too. She thought "ancestors" was "aunt-
sisters." Vague older relatives.

Sandra

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kristenhendricks55

If we unschooled for real? And I didn't say anybody was ruined by
anything. I totally do not see what you are getting at...!!!?!??

--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...>
wrote:
>
> -=-Being that we unchool to a certain extent and I let her learn
in her
> own way in her own time.. ( I try not to correct her on too many
> things as well)... I really do NOT understand how to explain to her
> that these animals on TV are saying things right one day and wrong
the
> next.-=-
>
> That sentence seemed not to come to its conclusion.
>
> Do you think if you unschooled for real that you would understand
how
> to explain it to her?
>
> Elmo and Cookie Monster used baby talk. Do you know anyone who
was
> ruined by Sesame Street?
>
> Sandra
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

kristenhendricks55

"More children have been ruined by judgmental negativity in their
moms
than anything else, I think."

What are you implying? I was just ;looking for advice, not a
judgement. Sheesh.


--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...>
wrote:
>
> -=-What do you say to a three year old to tell her why they are
doing
> that? (Hell- I dont even know WHY they are doing it!!)
> -=-
>
> Did she ask?
>
> Does she herself have any baby talk words or pronunciations left
in
> her? Many three-year-olds do.
>
> More children have been ruined by judgmental negativity in their
moms
> than anything else, I think.
>
> Sandra
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Sandra Dodd

-=-Being that we unchool to a certain extent-=-

That implies you don't consider yourself to be fully unschooling.

-=-Being that we unchool to a certain extent and I let her learn
in her
> own way in her own time.. ( I try not to correct her on too many
> things as well)... I really do NOT understand how to explain to her
> that these animals on TV are saying things right one day and wrong
the
> next.-=--=-

The sentence suggests that because you unschool to a certain extent,
you don't understand...

Perhaps that's just not what you intended to write.

You asked for advice and people are trying to draw from you why
you're so worried and what the problem is. Others are happily
suggesting that they don't think there's a problem.

-=-I hope that those who are new to this board will read everything
here with an open heart and mind; do not pass judgement without
thinking about WHY you feel the way you do about something said here.
I am so very, very thankful that I listened and thought and read and
read and read and thought and listened. My whole family has been set
free!! Thank you!-=-

http://sandradodd.com/lists/donna

If a mom posts that she has an "urgh" attitude (judgmental) and
someone else suggests that being judgmental can be more damaging than
babytalk, that is a statement of fact. It's a reminder to someone who
chose to post negativity in public that the negativity might be the
worst part of the equation.

Sandra

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Sandra Dodd

-=-I was just ;looking for advice, not a
judgement.-=-

http://sandradodd.com/unschooling

There's more advice than you could read in two weeks.

If you want personalized assistance for your problem as you choose to
state it, any advice you get in the absence of good judgment isn't
going to be very helpful at all. If you want advice from people
who don't think very carefully before they write, you have come to
the wrong list.

If you're new at unschooling, the UnschoolingBasics list would be
good for you. Don't worry; I'm not on it.
If you only partly unschool, this list is probably not your best
resource.

Sandra

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kristenhendricks55

"If you only partly unschool, this list is probably not your best
resource."


I'm sorry- I think I gave you the wrong idea. I think the way you
took it was that I only "partly" unschool.

What I meant by that statement was that since my children are 3
months old, 14 months old and 3 years old... so we unschool to a
certain extent. Some people have argued with me about that fact that
I don't truly unschool since my children are not yet old enough to
be in "real" school yet anyway. Do you see what I mean?

Therefore- I said we unschool to a certain extent (which I feel is
100% unschooling, but some have challenged me on the age thing).

Hope that clears it up for ya :)

Sorry bout that!


--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...>
wrote:
>
> -=-I was just ;looking for advice, not a
> judgement.-=-
>
> http://sandradodd.com/unschooling
>
> There's more advice than you could read in two weeks.
>
> If you want personalized assistance for your problem as you choose
to
> state it, any advice you get in the absence of good judgment
isn't
> going to be very helpful at all. If you want advice from
people
> who don't think very carefully before they write, you have come
to
> the wrong list.
>
> If you're new at unschooling, the UnschoolingBasics list would be
> good for you. Don't worry; I'm not on it.
> If you only partly unschool, this list is probably not your best
> resource.
>
> Sandra
>
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>

Sandra Dodd

kristenhendricks55 <kristenhendricks55@...> wrote: What I meant by that statement was that since my children are 3
months old, 14 months old and 3 years old... so we unschool to a
certain extent. Some people have argued with me about that fact that
I don't truly unschool since my children are not yet old enough to
be in "real" school yet anyway. Do you see what I mean?

Yes.
Are you also on the AlwaysUnschooled list?

Sandra


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Maisha Khalfani

George W. Bush mispronounces words all the time, and he has achieved the position of Commander In Chief. I'm very certain our children will be fine.

Namaste
Maisha
http://khalfanifamilyadventures.blogspot.com
"The period of greatest gain in knowledge and experience is the most difficult period in one's life" ~ The Dalai Lama








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